YTSEJAM Digest 1347
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/13/96 - 02:39:29" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) I Mother Earth
by Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu>
3) Re: Rush Tribute Album
by bosox1@ix.netcom.com (Craig Francis Moran)
4) couple o quick thingz...
by ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
5) Six Degrees of Soundgarden
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
6) It didn't hurt!
by The Masked Avenger <hed@NorthNet.org>
7) Martial Arts Misc. Miasma
by Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
8) stuff
by CLIFF & PAM WHEATON <cwheaton@micron.net>
9) THE END! Some DTC!
by KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
10) Small correction (NDTC)
by Mikko Kalermo <mikko.kalermo@pp.inet.fi>
11) SONGS IN SONGS
by "Malcolm" <maw195@soton.ac.uk>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1345
by acook@tiac.net (acook)
13) PETE DAVIS
by al587725@campus.cegs.itesm.mx (MARCELO MARTINELLI)
14) Galatic Cowboys
by John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu>
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 21:40:16 EST
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 21:22:43 -0600 (CST)
From: Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I Mother Earth
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960312211206.28263A-100000@comp.uark.edu>
There has been a little discussion about I Mother Earth lately on the
jam, mostly unfavorable opinions of the band. I figured I'd toss my
thoughts of these guys onto the heap.
Personally, I like these guys. They are doing something fairly original
with their music, and they seem like a fairly talented bunch. I would
classify their style as prog rock, as they don't really tend towards the
heavy distortion characteristic of metal. I will be one of the first to
admit that their style does drag on a bit, not a whole lot of innovation
away from it... this isn't necessarily a bad thing, since it's a fairly
unique style. But, you gotta be in the mood to listen to it... and
rarely can one kick back and jam to the entire album. It's somewhat
mellow, along the lines of maybe Echolyn (although I personally like
IME's style better than Echolyn).
If you can get into their style though, these guys can catch a serious
groove, with the bass player way up there in the mix in parts. If you can
catch a copy of Dig fairly cheaply, pick it up and give it a chance...
DrX -- aka Death
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 19:25:05 -0800
From: bosox1@ix.netcom.com (Craig Francis Moran)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Rush Tribute Album
Message-ID: <199603130325.TAA01209@ix15.ix.netcom.com>
Personally, I hadn't heard anything about it until a good friend of
mine who's a diehard Rush fan mentioned it a few days ago. He was
browsing one of the Rush Web pages and saw mention of it. And he did
say that Dream Theater and Primus were mentioned. Here's hoping!
craig
"We can hope for the future/But there might not be one" - Mike Portnoy
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 19:41:38 -0800
From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: couple o quick thingz...
Message-ID: <199603130341.TAA01904@ix11.ix.netcom.com>
>(and Rip is the confused one HAHAHAHA! Just kidding, Rip).
huh?... wha'?... damn it quit confusing me!
ok first of all, yes brian i know metallica didnt literally shave
themselves bald, but when i see guys go from hair past their shoulders
to something remotely close to shaved (buzz, crew cut, etc) i just say
they shaved it...
as for Seth Hatlelid, man that was a totally cool post, i really hope
now that i get to see korn this year because everything i've heard
about them live has been kick ass... and i'll definately check out
sepulturas "roots" after what i've heard from you about it too, thanx
bro'
ok some more things (i'm not finished with you yet!) i think i heard
something about a part of ACoS being cut from the album version. what
if anything was cut and where could i possible get a dub or else an
actual copy of a bootleg with a live version oc ACoS on it?
has anyone heard ozzy's Randy Rhoads Tribute remastered? i'm planning
on buying it no matter what but i was just kind of wondering if they
really improved the sound or whatever, same with Live and Loud...
oh yeah i said "couple o quick thingz" in the subject so i'd better
stop now. later'
~Rip
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:07:43 -0500 (EST)
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Six Degrees of Soundgarden
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603122358.E11720-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
> Subject: Re: Soundgarden
>
> If you want to class Sound Garden, try progressive. If you need proof, listen
As much as I want to agree, I don't think I can. We tried this a couple
weeks back with Extreme, and it didn't fly. I think we need a new
classification for bands like SG. Maybe neoprogmetalstuff? Nah, too
hard to say on the radio. :)
----> From: Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu> > Subject: Look Who I Found... > > Derek Sherinian, currently with DT. > > Derek used to play in Kiss with Bruce Kulick. > > Bruce Kulick used to play in a band called Blackjack, featuring MICHAEL > BOLTON in the lead singer slot! > > Scary isn't it?
I'll say. Maybe it's time to kill this thread. :)
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 00:08:59 -0800 From: The Masked Avenger <hed@NorthNet.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: It didn't hurt! Message-ID: <3146829B.674@northnet.org>
Funny, Cat. Very Funny. Assasinating one of my top admirals in front of the ENTIRE ytse-communtity! For this horrid act, you must be reprimanded. You see, while you were busy finding a gun big enough to kill my High-Ranking Admiral Ibanez, my super high Marshmellow technology, in cohorts with my genius Chicken and Mean Green Monster Scientists, have enveloped your homeworld in a impenetrible SLAVE SHIELD! HA HA! NOW, you are imprisoned on your home planet, never free to roam Web Space again!! AND you shall do MY bidding! For only I have the key to unlock it! SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS S SSSSS S **************** SSSSS S ******************** SSSSS S *****OO******************** SSSSS S ****OOOO**********OO********** SSSS S *****OOOO*********OOOO*********** S S ****OOVOO********OOOOOOOO********** S S *******OO***********OOOOO*********** S S *****OOVOOOO**********OOOOO*********** S S ******OVOOOOO***********OOO*********** S S ********OVOO**************O*********** S S ********VO************************** S SSSSS ******OO************************** S SSSSS *****O************OO************ S SSSSS ***************OOO********** S SSS ***************OOO******** S SSS ***OOOOOOOOOOOOOO***** S SS **OOOOOOOOOOOO**** S SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS /\ / \ /____\ \ / |B | | | |P | | | *Big Planet Destroyer |D | | *| /--|-\ / | \ I I I
..And, in case you haven't noticed, if by some chance you do find a way of escaping the slave shield, my 650,000 Gigaton Anti-Matter Super Dense Molecular Disbanding Neutronium Potensifing Electron Shifting Plasmoid Releasing BPD Rocket is waiting in orbit to blow your home planet into little tiny bits of molten marshmellow that my soldiers will happily eat for desert after a nice meal of Grain-Burgers that they stole from your cows! HA HA! DT CONTENT: Yes, I think Cat has a good point. Maybe we, the people of this 'jam, can contribute something to a large-scale progressive metal/DT effort. You know, there was talk a while back about making a "Ytse-Orchestra" thing. I think the thread kind of died because we all figured it would be too tough to do. Well, what about computer sequencers? You could send around an entire piece on a floppy disc in MIDI format. (Or email) I mean, I know it wouldn't be like getting everyone together in a studio for a huge "Ytse-JAM" :) but in would certainly be cool. Think about it. A lot of the people on here probably have access to sequencing software of some kind. We could get into 'Groups' for each song, and send the piece back and forth to each "group member" until a satisfactory "Beta-Synthesized Version" was compleated. Then, finally get the song down on tape with real instruments. Hell, you could even do that through the mail! Most of us have 4-tracks, right? It would just take a lot of effort. But I think it would certainly be worth it. And us SIG Warriors could do the Cover art!!! :)
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:10:51 -0500 (EST) From: Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Martial Arts Misc. Miasma Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603122349.A17160-0100000@bgnet2.bgsu.edu>
I finally saw Rumble in the Bronx! It rocked me more than the intro to "The Mirror" and Derek's train noise in "ACoS"" combined! Check out their web page: www.rumble.com, it says that New Line Cinema has acquired the worldwide distribution rights excluding the Far East to Jackie Chan's highly sought-after action-adventure film First Strike and domestic rights to Thunderbolt. The deal also includes first and last negotiating rights on potential First Strike and Thunderbolt sequels, as well as dibs on the next Jackie Chan film, which goes into production in March. Maybe DT could be on one of the soundtracks, that would rule!
>From: Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu> >Subject: Alternative Music
Great post, but you forgot Dave Matthews Band.
>PS. Its wierd that three of us have mentioned Fourth Estate, great band, >anybody in Colorado should check them out live if they get a chance, the >CD I have is just great, Morse/Dregs/Kings X influence, all instrumental.
Hmmmm, my curiosity has been piqued, can you make me a copy?
>.but PsycholoGISTS might be able to prescribe drugs in the future....so >if you want to be able to do so....get a good grasp of Psychopharmacology >(whew) NOW.
"Psychopharmacology"? Sounds like a cool instrumental...
> THIS NIFTY TIE FIGHTER! > > Which is carrying... > > * > ....This piece of ANTI-MATTER in it's bomb-bay!
Watch out for those X-Wings! And look out! There's the Falcon!
>No i am serious... WHAT IS IT WITH DT that makes them special??? What >makes all you think that ONE BAND or Group is better then another???
I think the majority of 'Jammers favorite band is DT. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even yours, however dissenting it may be.
Ben "New favorite DT song every week" Laussade said:
> Didilidoo > Didilidoo > Didilidoo
Whoa, for a minute I thought it was a sexual device. Then I used my Hooked on Phonics skills and figured it out.
> <screen image wavers...fades to my dream> >Okay...this is the strange part--- Mike Portnoy leaned over and made out >with my math teacher.
Hmmmm, you wouldn't have a crush on your math teacher, Ben, would you?
>No offenses James...hey wait! I said...whoa, what are you doing with >that hammer...hey NO!! AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Don't you mean 2X4?
> Kirk looks like a clown that took his makeup off.
Cool! Maybe he could be in "Crow III: Cage of Hamsters" He could play his own wah-infested guitar solo on a building rooftop. Metallica could be on the soundtrack. DT could be on yet another soundtrack!
>Let me reiterate......just because somebody DOESN'T play anything >super-hard/complicated doesn't mean they CAN'T.
Let me reiterate...just because somebody DOESN'T play anything super-hard/complicated doesn't mean they _CAN_.
>DT hasn't even come close to touching one yet... and I'm sure they >don't even give damn...
What about the awards JP has received from the guitar magazines? IMO, to be recognized by fellow musicians is the highest form of praise.
>1. Dream Theater 2. Steve Howe (guested at Ronnie Scott's gig with DT) >3. Yes (Steve Howe is in Yes) 4. Bill Bruford (Was in Yes ages ago and >on Union)
I thought it was supposed to be in 6 steps...good job anyway!
>Hell, I'd even consider the Toadies somewhat progressive, listen to I >come from the Water and that really overplayed one, what the hell is the >name again? HMMMM .....
Whoa, DJ DMF, we don't need all the anti-alternative 'Jammers down our throats again.
>From: Jay Runde <jrunde@glenqcy.glenayre.com> >Subject: Re: Shadow Gallery (ncdt)
"NCDT"? I've got it! NCDT: no compact disc tracking.
>its fine that you dont dig the music, i'm not asking for that, i just >dont think they deserve to be called "wankers" now that we're clear >on that... :)
Okey-dokey RipZero, Pantera's wanker status has been revoked.
> Korn: what can I say, yes they do play the nursary ryme song (shoots >and ladders-not their best song). Korn are recieved as true innovators >usually are: ya love em or hate em.
While I was driving to the record store to buy the new Sting CD (yes!), I heard this song on the radio. I liked the sound of the drums. I first heard the "Blind" song, and my first impression of this band was that they sounded like Rage Against the Machine. After hearing this song though, I may have to give it a listen. Thanks for the description, Seth. BMG or Columbia House numbers for this album anyone?
>Derek Sherinian, currently with DT. > >Derek used to play in Kiss with Bruce Kulick. > >Bruce Kulick used to play in a band called Blackjack, featuring MICHAEL >BOLTON in the lead singer slot! > >Scary isn't it?
(Mimicking my best Beavis voice): AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH! Change it, Butt-Head, c'mon change it! I think I'm having a seizure!
Where's the Ytse-chologists?
Soundcerely,
G. Jack Thetgyi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- G. Jack Thetgyi thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu "Any movie with wakka-cha-wakka in it is okay by me." -Tom Servo, Mystery Science Theater 3000 #512: "Mitchell" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 02:02 MST From: CLIFF & PAM WHEATON <cwheaton@micron.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: stuff Message-ID: <m0twmSM-000QfeC@mis01.micron.net>
I'm Baaack-for a minute anyhow. re: the .sig wars-fun. I enjoyed the artwork. caught in a web: AWESOME!! It's a very good driving tune!! that great riff at the end of the bridge there is just that!! Haven't got WDADU yet-gee they take a long time!!I WANT IT NOWWWW!! IRC is great fun!! YKYADTF: You listen to a DT song twice(or 3 or 4 times) in a row just to hear one spot in that song. Keep Rockin'!! Pam
___/----^--\____ < /__rockin' cabbie_\o 0 0 TAKING THE ROAD TO ADVENTURE (Pam) cwheaton@micron.net
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 04:40:42 EST From: KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: THE END! Some DTC! Message-ID: <096.03441774.KTYA28B@prodigy.com>
Meanwhile, back on planet MarshmAllow....all was NOT well. Oden's Viking hoarde became sick of dried herring....and decided to try Chick on a stick instead.............. /^\ ||| ||| ||| *___________________* ||| |<><><><><><><><><><| ||| |___________________| ||| (((((((((((((((((((() ||| ((((((((((((((((((((() ||| | --- ((( )))))) ||| \*0\ //( ))))) ||| / ///// U ))))) Bawk,cluck...awwk.. /OOOOO\ L & ///////////)))) \ /OOOOOOO\ ///////////////)))) \ /OX@OO@XOO\ //////////////)))) \ mOOOOOOOOOOOm ////////////OOOOO)) \ OOOO `` OOOOO ///////////OOOOOOO)) OOO\ /OOOO XXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOOOX \\\\///// XXXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOOOX \\\\/// XXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOOOX ( ) (XXXXXXE\ XXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOOX ((((((((|)))))))) (XXXXXXE |OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOXX ((((((((|)))))))) (XXXXXXET|OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOXX ) ((((((((|)))))))) (XXXXXE/|OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOXX {\ ((((((((|)))))))) // (___) XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (\\ ( | ) /// XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX \\\\ {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ //// 000000000000000000000 \\\\OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO//// XXXXXXXXXXX000000XXXXX \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\// XXXXXXXXXXX000000XXXXX ))\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\)\||XXXXXXXXX000000XXXXXX )\)\)\)\)\ ||XXXXXXXX000000XXXXXX ||XXXXXXXX000000XXXXXX *************************************************************************** The End. Don't force me to draw a fat lady singing........ *************************************************************************** URGENT MESSAGE!!!!!!!!!! THIS .SIG WAR HAS GOT TO END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's just call it a "draw" and get back to having lives.....................huh? It has been fun...but for most people, I'm afraid it's just a waste of time and money. The only way I'll continue it is IF the Ytsecommunity gives us their BLESSING....which I DOUBT they'll do. Anyways....IF the jammers have found this .Sig War entertaining enough to continue....please e-mail and let me know. If you don't....don't flame me....your silence will speak volumes. Unless the Ytsecommunity WANTS a continuance of this war....this SHALL BE the last visual post from MY modem. Dream Theater content....I was at the Denver show on 11/22/94. I don't think their sound was good enough that night for a quality tape(IMHO). It WASN'T their fault though....they seemed to be having some trouble with their sound equipment. As I recall, it was affecting their musicianship a little. It was a good time, though!!!!!!!!! I wouldn't mind having a tape as a souvenir..........
Cat
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:52:27 +0200 From: Mikko Kalermo <mikko.kalermo@pp.inet.fi> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Small correction (NDTC) Message-ID: <1.5.4b11.16.19960313115508.24379ac8@pop.inet.fi>
Hello Ytseland,
I've heard that my web-page doesn't work. Well, not with the old address. My server changed my URL just a little bit (Don't ask me why). So the current url is http://info.rpkk.fi/opsivut/y95b/mikko.kalermo There you can find those Superior live pictures Bernd has mentioned. And more.
Sorry for NDTC.
Mikko
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:58:38 +0000 (GMT) From: "Malcolm" <maw195@soton.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam) Subject: SONGS IN SONGS Message-ID: <199603131058.KAA11054@alder.soton.ac.uk>
OK, a quickie: Sorry if this has been discovered already, but how about Caught In a Web in Lifting Shadows Off A Dream? Ciaw chorus 3:56 - 4:14
Cool! Malcolm Watson
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 07:01:20 -0500 From: acook@tiac.net (acook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1345 Message-ID: <199603131201.HAA17396@zork.tiac.net>
>Jammers, > Just picked up Carved in Stone at Graywhale. Does anybody know why >they deleted the even numbered songs on the cover? The only even >number song is #8 all the rest are skipped. I've only been able to >hear the first song and it definitely is interesting stuff. I'm >unable to make a review yet obviously. They list an email of >Prophet@esu.edu right under the fan club address. I guess I'll try >that to see what happens.
Arg, I've been looking everywhere for the Shadow Gallery! It's not even listed in the computer catalog thing at tower, and I'm not sure if there are any good indie record places around here. If anybody around Boston knows of a good place, tell me! Oh yeah, I just picked up Awaken the Guardian by Fates. This is a totally different band then Inside Out! John Arch's topic of lyrics is definitely interesting, is he trying to tell a story here? I also notice that he sometimes screws up words and repeats them until they fit into the song...different but cool ;-)
Adam Cook acook@tiac.bet visit me at, http://www.tiac.net/users/com (hard hat construction area!)
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 08:08:43 -0500 From: al587725@campus.cegs.itesm.mx (MARCELO MARTINELLI) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: PETE DAVIS Message-ID: <9603131308.AA08031@campus.cegs.itesm.mx>
I'm looking for Pete Davis , Pete if you are reading this please reply to me. I've sent you a couple of messages regarding my tape , please mail me.
On to DT content :
I just wanted to comment on how DT is getting more popular , after reading about the show they are doing about them on T.V. by our fellow ytsejammers I realize that we are helping a lot to build a good following without the band having to sell out. I have turned about 20 guys in my high-school into liking DT. Also I've heard segments of "Learning to Live" , "Pull Me Under" , and "The Mirror" in some T.V. programs here in Mexico. In another matter I'm desperately trying to build my DT bootleg collection , if anybody is willing to help me please mail me. See ya in IRC.
-Marcelo Martinelli-
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:11:34 -0500 From: John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Galatic Cowboys Message-ID: <199603131511.KAA01943@ws14.uncc.edu>
Please excuse me if this question has been answered already, but it has been a little over 8 months since I have been on the list. The last I have heard was that GC was breaking up but they are supposed to play a show here in Charlotte this month. So what's up with GC?
Trey
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