YTSEJAM Digest 1348
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/13/96 - 15:36:51" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) ORDERING HARD TO FIND CDS
by pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com (Pat Daugherty E12697)
3) YTSEJAM digest 1347 -Reply
by BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
4) Stuff that's not really very important
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
5) Killer Shows
by Jeffrey Cline <jcline@quapaw.astate.edu>
6) HELP!
by Paul Mc Clelland <clelland@ecn.purdue.edu>
7) Paradise Lost
by MATTHEW D PASTOR <S_MDPASTOR@vaxa.clarion.edu>
8) Queen, Soundgarden, DT
by fcavani@pianeta.it (Fabio Cavani)
9) Dew
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
10) Cover
by DreamNDay@aol.com
11) Shadow Gallery
by BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
12) Galactic Cowboys
by Dave Fernquist <103362.445@compuserve.com>
13) "dereks train noise"
by ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
14) more
by ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
15) .sig wars (ANH?)
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
16) DT CAPS
by Andrew Bunk <ABUNK@wpo.it.luc.edu>
17) Portnoy clinic
by m_washke@acad.lvc.edu
18) Re:Rush Tribute Album
by Jonathan Goad <jgoad@quapaw.astate.edu>
19) Re: Korn???
by jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
20) DREAM THEATER - MAJESTY DEMO 86 CD, INSTRUMENTAL 1 AND 2,
by Timothy Lodge <axe@usa.nai.net>
21) Soungarden
by DreamNDay@aol.com
22) Re: Sepultura review in Jam #1346
by "Steven C. Young" <syoung@primenet.com>
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:45:17 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/13/96 - 15:36:51" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:13:08 -0500
From: pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com (Pat Daugherty E12697)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ORDERING HARD TO FIND CDS
Message-ID: <199603131613.LAA01252@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
If you want some of the cds that are often talked about here quite often, then
telnet to cdconnection.com and follow their easy to follow menus. I ahve
ordered from them many times and they are reliable. I have gotten almost
all my Magna Carta (tributes, Shadow Gallery, Magellan) from them.
**** Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com ****
**** "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater ****
**** "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files ****
**** GO CAPITALS! GO BULLETS! GO DAYTON FLYERS! GO TERPS! ****
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 09:27:52 -0700
From: BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1347 -Reply
Message-ID: <s146947d.056@IOMEGA.COM>
>>> Debbie, on 03/13/96 08:24am You wrote>>>
Dream Theater content....I was at the Denver show on 11/22/94. I
don't think their sound was good enough that night for a quality
tape(IMHO). It
WASN'T their fault though....they seemed to be having some trouble with
their sound equipment. As I recall, it was affecting their musicianship a
little.
I>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I saw them on 11-23-94 in SLC at Saltair. Sound was worked out then.
Fates warmed up. There were only about 500 people there or so. There
was a blizzard in progress during and after the show so maybe that
affected the attendance. However, I don't think DT is well known here, I
kinda feel like an island. But I had a hell of a good time and a long slippery
ride home.
Wilmo
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:33:45 -0500 (EST)
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Stuff that's not really very important
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603131148.C18085-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
> Subject: Martial Arts Misc. Miasma
>
> >Let me reiterate......just because somebody DOESN'T play anything
> >super-hard/complicated doesn't mean they CAN'T.
>
> Let me reiterate...just because somebody DOESN'T play anything
> super-hard/complicated doesn't mean they _CAN_.
Just because somebody doesn't play something doesn't amount to a hill of
beans one way or another. Next time you meet them, ask them.
> Where's the Ytse-chologists?
LOL!
----> From: CLIFF & PAM WHEATON <cwheaton@micron.net> > Subject: stuff > > YKYADTF: You listen to a DT song twice(or 3 or 4 times) in a row just to > hear one spot in that song.
Ah, the omnipresent NMS thread. :) We could probably think of a million of these. How about this one:
YKYADTFW: You spend $10 on a single, just because you want to own everything they've released.
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> From: KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL) > Subject: THE END! Some DTC! > > URGENT MESSAGE!!!!!!!!!! THIS .SIG WAR HAS GOT TO END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's > just call it a "draw" and get back to having lives.....................huh? > It has been fun...but for most people, I'm afraid it's just a waste of time > and money. The only way I'll continue it is IF the Ytsecommunity gives us > their BLESSING....which I DOUBT they'll do. Anyways....IF the jammers have > found this .Sig War entertaining enough to continue....please e-mail and let > me know. If you don't....don't flame me....your silence will speak volumes.
That may just be the most impressive flame-retardant post I've ever seen. :)
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> From: acook@tiac.net (acook) > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1345 > > Arg, I've been looking everywhere for the Shadow Gallery! It's not even > listed in the computer catalog thing at tower, and I'm not sure if there are > any good indie record places around here. If anybody around Boston knows of > a good place, tell me!
I've never seen it in any store. Try the Internet shops. I got mine from CDConnection for just under $17. That's a lot to pay for 1 CD, but it's worth it. Telnet cdconnection.com.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ \|/ ____ \|/ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "@'/ ,. \`@" cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" /_| \__/ |_\ d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/ http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:56:23 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey Cline <jcline@quapaw.astate.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Killer Shows Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.960313104857.8272A-100000@quapaw.astate.edu>
Last night I got to see Fear Factory and Iron Maiden. The show kicked some serious ass! The new lead singer Blaze Baily sounds amazing live. I was right in front of the stage the entire time. Dave gave me 2 of his guitar picks and Steve and Blaze screamed in my face several times. After the show I talked to Fear Factory. They were some really cool guys and put on a great show. After waiting for over an hour IRON MAIDEN finilly came out and signed some autographs. I got to meet everyone but Nico. If anyone gets a chance to see Maiden don't miss it.
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 12:31:43 -0500 From: Paul Mc Clelland <clelland@ecn.purdue.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: HELP! Message-ID: <199603131731.MAA24522@atom.ecn.purdue.edu>
Hey guys!
Wow! Holy SHIT! I have 2 count em 2 metropolis posts! How much do we have to drink for that?
I'd appreciate any help with this...I'm new to BMG and I'm wondering if any of you guys know the numbers for Queensryche: Empire Ratt: Reach for the Sky ("Everybody knows it's Way Cool Jr.")
I'd appreciate any help! Only 7 or 8 months until the new DT...YIPPEE!!
Pauly
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 13:14:36 -0500 (EST) From: MATTHEW D PASTOR <S_MDPASTOR@vaxa.clarion.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Paradise Lost Message-ID: <960313131436.2021393a@vaxa.clarion.edu>
Jammers, Recently I came across a band called Paradise Lost and was wondering if any one else has heard their stuff at all. They are compared to DT and are labeled prog. metal. They are also featured in the most recent edition of Concrete. If anyone has any info. on them please E-mail me. Thanks. Matt P. s_mdpastor@vaxa.clarion.edu
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 19:41:53 +0100 From: fcavani@pianeta.it (Fabio Cavani) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Queen, Soundgarden, DT Message-ID: <199603131841.TAA07132@ns.pianeta.it>
Hi jammers!
>Freddy saw a rough cut of the death scene of Heather, >then wrote "WWTLF", which, after played to the makers of the movie, they >liked so much they made it a major theme of the film.
Wasn't it Brian instead of Freddie? I think I've read somewhere it was written in the back of a car... anyway great song!
>Trivia: What popular song was in the first Highlander movie, but NOT on any >album released by Queen? (No fair watching the movie to find out)
Wasn't there an excerpt from "New York New York" mixed with "Don't lose your head"?
As for Soundgarden... well, maybe they aren't progressive, but their music is very challenging. Very different from DT (no keyboards...), but very interesting Actually, almost all the songs are in odd signatures, and moreover they use very unusual kinds of melodies on their songs. I also like very much Chris Cornell's voice. I saw them live a few months ago, and I had a lot of fun!!
Finally, thank you very much to the one who posted about Mike's clinics. Great, he's coming to Italy!! Are you sure he won't do other clinics here apart from Florence and Milan?
Bye Fabio
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 13:44:24 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu> To: DT List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Dew Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603131311.F254090-0100000@acs5.bu.edu>
Whoever (sp?) said that Mountain Dew looks like urine really has to get his/her self medically examined. If your urine is THAT color, something is seriously wrong with you! Also, I'd have to defend Mountain Dew as being one quality beverage! (and I'm sure the list moderator will agree with me....) I don't know about the diet variety, though.... Thanks for the tip about checking Satch's web page for tour dates!
\o/ --==Brian Wherry==-- o | --==bwherry@acs.bu.edu==-- /|\ / \ "Do. Or do not. There is no try." -Yoda / \
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 15:19:12 -0500 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Cover Message-ID: <960313151911_350130012@emout08.mail.aol.com>
Well, on the Awake album cover, I've definately, seen: 6:00 Caught In A Web The Silent Man The Mirror And my friend pointed these out to me, but I'm not sure about them: Lie A Mind Beside Itself Innocense Faded And the one he sees that I'm almost positive is wrong: Space Dye Vest.
A Damn Dyer
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 13:43:28 -0700 From: BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Shadow Gallery Message-ID: <s146d06a.047@IOMEGA.COM>
Hello again, Just got a note from the Shadow Gallery fan club that the first self-titled CD will be released domestically this spring. Just thought I'd pass that along for those that care.
Wilmo
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Date: 13 Mar 96 15:18:10 EST From: Dave Fernquist <103362.445@compuserve.com> To: Ytsejam <Ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Galactic Cowboys Message-ID: <960313201809_103362.445_JHL62-1@CompuServe.COM>
Trey,
The Galactic Cowboys reformed with a new guitarist (Wally Farkas, their former guitar tech) and released "Machine Fish" on Metal Blade records in Feb '96. I definitely like the new disc, and already have tickets to the April 5 show in the L.A. area. I've only seen them once when they opened for D.T., so I can't wait to see them headline.
For more info, check out the metal blade web site; there is Galactic Cowboys page there (with tour info as well).
See Ya
DFern
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 12:58:11 -0800 From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero ) To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: "dereks train noise" Message-ID: <199603132058.MAA08868@ix9.ix.netcom.com>
>It rocked me more than the intro to "The Mirror" and Derek's train >noise in "ACoS"" combined!
my bud described that as "a bull being raped"... just a thought ;) by the way he in an EXCELLENT guitar player and he got the slot for "lick of the month" in Guitar Player magazine oct 95... i think it had hendrix on the cover... if you subscribe go back and look at the lick of the month... its got a bunch more talent then anything i've previously seen there and it was the first thing he even sent in. anywas the main thing in this post was his quote but just to do him a little justice check out the 'mag
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 13:05:33 -0800 From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero ) To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: more Message-ID: <199603132105.NAA04734@ix4.ix.netcom.com>
hey 2 posts in a row aint too bad! just look at brian :)
>Okey-dokey RipZero, Pantera's wanker status has been revoked.
gracias senor:)
>BMG or Columbia House numbers for this album [Korn] anyone?
CH is 108704
i'd throw in more to make it look like i had more to say but i dont so i'll let you get on with your jam ~Rip
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 13:25:53 PST From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: .sig wars (ANH?) Message-ID: <9603132125.AA07703@tengs1>
This had better stop, or I'm going to quote an entire digest in my next message |>)>
Zach
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 15:46:09 -0600 From: Andrew Bunk <ABUNK@wpo.it.luc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT CAPS Message-ID: <s146edd6.093@wpo.it.luc.edu>
Does anyone know where and how I can order a DT baseball cap? Are there any available? Please e-mail me at abunk@mail.luc.edu Thanks.
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 14:49:47 -0800 From: m_washke@acad.lvc.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Portnoy clinic Message-ID: <199603132249.OAA29778@mindcrime.ax.com>
A friend of mine saw Portnoy in a clinic in Maryland over the weekend. I heard no word about this over the jam. It could be because I haven't read that many recently because I left for spring break and got back with 60+ messages to read with over half being jams and a bunch about recording the DT covers. If Portnoy is doing a clinic tour, could someone PLEASE send me the dates. This is the second time I missed him. Last time he was only fifteen minutes away from where I live(another clinic no one mentioned.) By the way, my friend said he talked about songs on the new album, and that they are working on a song that Derek wrote now.
Mike Washkevich "The irony is that this time dad's butt prevented the release of toxic ga..........." Bart
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:09:25 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan Goad <jgoad@quapaw.astate.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:Rush Tribute Album Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.960313165950.6333A-100000@quapaw.astate.edu>
I read recently in a Mike Portnoy interview that Mike and Billy Sheehan (Mr. Big, DLR, Talas) laid down the bass and drum tracks for the upcoming tribute that will be released on the Magna Carta label. I read in a magazine that the disc will come out in June. I've also heard rumors that Primus, Queensryche, and Fates Warning will play on the disc. I don't know if Mike is the only member of DT who was involved (I hope not), but he's the only one who I know played on it for sure. I also read on Shadow Gallery's web page that their guitar player is going to play on one of the tracks.
Jonathan Goad
"Animate me." -Neil Peart
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:02:42 -0500 (EST) From: jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Korn??? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960313100110.18747A-100000@barney>
On Tue, 12 Mar 1996, Chris Oates wrote:
> Aren't they the folks who do that innane nursery-rhyme song? I equate them > as on the same level as POTUSA for that, and I didn't go to see Ozzy because > they were opening. If I am wrong, please inform me in private.
Unfortunately, yes. But don't let that stop you from buying that album, just skip past that track. Believe me, it's well worth it. Someone mentionned to not let anyone homicidal listen to it though; I agree 120% :).
James Bako "Don't tell me you wanted me jbako01@barney.poly.edu Don't tell me you thought of me Polytechnic University I won't, I swear I won't Brooklyn, New York I'll try, I swear I'll try" Dream Theater - "Lie"
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 19:32:46 GMT From: Timothy Lodge <axe@usa.nai.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DREAM THEATER - MAJESTY DEMO 86 CD, INSTRUMENTAL 1 AND 2, Message-ID: <199603131932.TAA03941@usa.nai.net>
Hey 'Jammers ...here is some information on the remaining DT CD's I have for sale. I only have about 20 left of Instrumental II, 12 Instrumental I's, 10 Majestys, and 8 Rising Powers. (NOT INCLUDING PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY ORDERED CD'S)....
So Here is some info..
DT DEMO CD'S ARE HERE! Order now! No waiting periods!
The CD's are:
DREAM THEATER: while performing as MAJESTY: The Official 1986 Demo (1 CD) DREAM THEATER: InstruMENTAL I: The 1987 Recordings (1 CD) DREAM THEATER: InstruMENTAL II: Our Music, Your Brain [NEW] featuring the demo version of A CHANGE OF SEASONS!! (1 CD) RISING POWER: Power to the People - Portnoy's old band! (1 CD)
All of these CD's are brand new, not used. The quality on all of these is excellent, and showcases a lot of rare material from the early days of DT.
For complete setlists and info on the cd's, visit my dream theater section at my web site: http://w3.nai.net/~axe
Prices are the CD's are $23.99 each..[$12.99 for Rising Power]..and all prices INCLUDE 1st class Shipping to your front door. (or mailbox, or whatever. :) ) You can pay via check, money order, or cash if you have no other alternative, and you are willing to risk it! :)
If anyone is interested in purchasing cd's, please send me email at the address below.
Thanks!
Tim L. Send orders/inquiries to: axe@nai.net
lodge_tim@ccsu.ctstateu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 19:36:54 -0500 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Soungarden Message-ID: <960313193653_245364239@emout07.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-03-12 21:28:23 EST, you write:
>If you want to class Sound Garden, try progressive. If you need proof, listen >to some songs off of SuperUnknown alone. My Wave, mostly in 5/4 time with >some time changes. Fell on Black Days, in 6/4 and 9/4, I thnk. SpoonMan is in >7/4 and 4/4. From BADMOTORFINGER, listen to Rusty Cage and Outshine which >change times as well. All right, they're not as complex as DT, but they are >no Bush or nirvana. Neoprogressive maybe? Fight me on this? Be my guest, but >when a band changes time sigs like that, I consider them somewhat >progressive. Hell, I'd even consider the Toadies somewhat progressive, >listen to I come from the Water and that really overplayed one, what the >hell is the name again? HMMMM .....
Hell, yeah! I also was thinking the same thing while listening to Alice In Chains' Dirt, where a few of the songs are in different time sigs. (Them Bones, Damn That River, etc.), except I don't feel the Toadies are very good at all. BTW, I come From the Water IS the really overplayed one. ;)
A Damn Dyer
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:39:47 -0700 From: "Steven C. Young" <syoung@primenet.com> To: "'YtseJam Digest'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Sepultura review in Jam #1346 Message-ID: <01BB1104.15D76680@ip189.tus.primenet.com>
>They are much less the speed thrash band that they >used to be and much more forcing their way to they vanguard of the new >style of music being created bu NIN, Korn, Fear Factory, Marilyn >manson, and now Sepultura. This entire disk screams experimentation.
Okay, am I the only one who has noticed a pattern here? When Ozzy came through Phoenix last year on the first leg of the Ozzmosis tour, FEAR FACTORY opened the show. I didn't go to that show because, well, I'm not a huge Ozzy fan and tickets sold out in under a week, anyway. But, I did get tickets for his March 2nd show (I won 3rd row seats on the radio) and KORN and the Deftones were slated as the opening acts. However, Ozzy got sick and had to postpone the show. It has been rescheduled, though (I know a lot of you out there were holding your breath for that info), and who just happened to replace KORN and the Deftones on the bill? MARILYN MANSON and SEPULTURA (actually, I was hoping for King's X, but...). I thought that was pretty interesting - Hey, Jon, do you double as Ozzy's tour manager, or what? Anyway, it should be an interesting show (April 13th - See you there, Mike Bahr!). Could someone give me a general idea what to expect from these bands live? MM I've never heard, and it's been a while since I've heard anything from Sepultura (one track from Chaos A.D.).
>They are touring for the next year and a >half so be damn sure to go and see them. It's sure to be an >incredible show! I hope they tour with Korn! Riots would commence at >the end of every show!!!!!!!!!
That would sure cut their tour pretty short, wouldn't you think?
Any Savatage followers out there? Jump 'em, or dump 'em?
Okay, okay, DT content - I am the epitome of ignorance, I know, but just what the HELL is James LaBrie singing during the last measures of Pull Me Under on LATM and is it the same as the original IAW track? Also, is Bombay Vindaloo found anywhere else but LATM? I'd really like to see DT put that on one of their upcoming LPs or EPs, like they did with ACOS.
What's this about DT and someone else collaborating on a Rush tribute album? I wish I could remember where I saw that. Sounds cool to me, though.
Speaking of Rush, I heard that one of their newsletters reported that Rush will not tour to support their upcoming final release...WHAT?!? Has anybody else heard about this? I mean, c'mon, would they really do that? Please, somebody put this to rest A.S.A.P!
Jeez, somebody put ME to rest - sorry about the mongo post - "SOMEBODY STOP ME!!!"
Steve from Tucson syoung@primenet.com
"Whoa! Yeeeeeeah!" - James LaBrie, Long Island Expressway (Acoustic Dreams)
"You're gonna die here, y'know; pretty convenient." - Han Solo, ROTJ
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