YTSEJAM Digest 1349
Today's Topics:
1) Address of METROPOLIS
by Timothy Lodge <axe@usa.nai.net>
2) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/14/96 - 01:06:41" <response@ibmmail.com>
3) Dereks train noise
by kurt@fgallery.com
4) Re: Soungarden
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
5) Marilyn Manson and SDV
by ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1348
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
7) A Mind Beside Itself
by Bogie34@aol.com
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1347
by hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal)
9) Math teachers, Attractiveness of
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
10) Dew
by napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
11) Buying Prog CDs - Esp Progmetal
by Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
12) Re: WDADU
by The One Who Helps to Set the Sun <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
13) Explore the Boundries
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
14) Are you Sure, Ben????
by KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
15) YKYADTF if:
by Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu>
16) DT on Muchmusic
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 19:48:04 GMT
From: Timothy Lodge <axe@usa.nai.net>
To: YTSEJAM@AX.COM
Subject: Address of METROPOLIS
Message-ID: <199603131948.TAA04746@usa.nai.net>
Can Someone PLEASE PLEASE email me the subscription information
for how to get subscribed to and post to the new METROPOLIS
email digest? It would be much appreciated!
Thanks!
Tim Lodge
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 20:07:29 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/14/96 - 01:06:41" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199603140107.RAA02140@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 01:07:19 GMT on 14 Mar 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped.
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 21:56:40 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dereks train noise
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.3.13.-11.56.40.2916992174.264528@bbs.fgallery.com>
I wouldnt say its a train..i like to think its a Tie Fighter flying past
another ship... you know..that sound they made..
MTFBWY
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 21:27:32 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Soungarden
Message-ID: <9603130227.AA22808@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Actually, the other Toadies song I was thinking of is that one that goes
Make up your mind
Decide to walk with me
Around the lake tonight
Around the lake to nSSnSSSRRSSSight. OOPS.
By my side.
Baspace doesn't want to work anyumore. Oh well. You get what I mean.
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 18:41:40 -0800
From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Marilyn Manson and SDV
Message-ID: <199603140241.SAA22287@ix10.ix.netcom.com>
>MM [Marilyn Manson] I've never heard, and it's been a while since
>I've heard anything from Sepultura (one track from Chaos A.D.).
Get ready for one show <BIG grin> Marilyn Manson are those bi-sexual,
cross dressing, killer name taking, "anti-christ superstar" guys! They
put out a REALLY great show i've heard... the lead singer (Marilyn
Manson) totally self mutilates himself on stage and all sorts of other
stuff... they've been banned from several places too... thats just a
LITTLE of what to expect ;)
ok one other thing- I think it was brian who said he didnt think what
his friend had for space dye vest on the cover was right... first of
all- what was it? and i think that the space horizon might be where
space dye vest is portrayed on the cover... anyone else? also do you
think "lifting shadows" may be portrayed as the color on the other side
of the mirror? just a thought...
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 19:14:00 -0800
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1348
Message-ID: <199603140314.TAA04510@cats.ucsc.edu>
The following quotes are from lots of different people, I judt didn't bother
attributing most of them. Please flame me not! :)
>> Arg, I've been looking everywhere for the Shadow Gallery! It's not even
>> listed in the computer catalog thing at tower, and I'm not sure if there are
>> any good indie record places around here. If anybody around Boston knows of
>> a good place, tell me!
>
>I've never seen it in any store. Try the Internet shops. I got mine
>from CDConnection for just under $17. That's a lot to pay for 1 CD, but
>it's worth it. Telnet cdconnection.com.
I've found all my Magna Carta stuff at either Blockbuster or Tower. Lucky
shops, I guess, but then again the manager of the local BlockBuster Music is
a HUGE Yes fan. When I bought the Yes Tribute and World Trade, we talked
for about 30 minutes about Yesm ABWH, Chris Squire's solo album, etc...
>Jammers,
> Recently I came across a band called Paradise Lost and was wondering
>if any one else has heard their stuff at all. They are compared to DT and
>are labeled prog. metal. They are also featured in the most recent edition of
>Concrete. If anyone has any info. on them please E-mail me. Thanks.
> Matt P.
> s_mdpastor@vaxa.clarion.edu
I like 'em. They sound like Metallica's black album with some goth
influences (I get that from the list and from a few friend's confirmations.
I'm a gothilliterate.)
>From: fcavani@pianeta.it (Fabio Cavani)
>Hi jammers!
Hi Fabio! It's James' Twin brother! (smirk)
>
>>Freddy saw a rough cut of the death scene of Heather,
>>then wrote "WWTLF", which, after played to the makers of the movie, they
>>liked so much they made it a major theme of the film.
>
>Wasn't it Brian instead of Freddie? I think I've read somewhere it was
>written in the back of a car... anyway great song!
>
Oops. Forgot to check who wrote the song. You are correct.
>>Trivia: What popular song was in the first Highlander movie, but NOT on any
>>album released by Queen? (No fair watching the movie to find out)
>
>Wasn't there an excerpt from "New York New York" mixed with "Don't lose your
>head"?
>
dingdingdingding! And you are our winner! Pick a number from the prize board!
>> Aren't they the folks who do that innane nursery-rhyme song? I equate them
>> as on the same level as POTUSA for that, and I didn't go to see Ozzy because
>> they were opening. If I am wrong, please inform me in private.
>
>Unfortunately, yes. But don't let that stop you from buying that album,
>just skip past that track. Believe me, it's well worth it.
>Someone mentionned to not let anyone homicidal listen to it though; I
>agree 120% :).
Well, I'll go to BBuster and "Listen before I buy" I switch the radio to
something else when that song comes on... :P
__ /\ __
__\/__\/__
\_||_/ ~Chris
/__||__\
// \ | \\
\|
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 22:50:46 -0500
From: Bogie34@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A Mind Beside Itself
Message-ID: <960313225044_245556929@emout10.mail.aol.com>
A few 'Jams ago, some guy came up with the idea that someone should write
lyrics to the Silent Man and call it "The Silent Fart". Well, I'm currently
working on the trilogy of songs called "A Fart Beside Itself". After
finishing Fartomania (that was a tough one to redo the lyrics!) and coming
up with replacements for most of what is normally known as Voices, I'm
running short on ideas. You can only be so original when writing lyrics
about releasing toxic fumes into the air! So please, any of you tasteless
people out there who have ideas for lyrics, please send them to me.
Bogie
P.S. Talk about being bored... :)
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 19:56:35 -0800
From: hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1347
Message-ID: <199603140356.TAA25461@ix13.ix.netcom.com>
Somebody wrote:
>> Kirk looks like a clown that took his makeup off.
In my very HO, Kirk also plays like a clown that just picked up an
electric ukulele. He is sloppy, man! Again, in my opinion, Metallica
doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath (or on the same
'jam) as the GODS we know as Dream Theater! OK, headbangers, let the
flames commence!
> Dream Theater content....I was at the Denver show on 11/22/94. I
don't
>think their sound was good enough that night for a quality tape(IMHO).
It
>WASN'T their fault though....they seemed to be having some trouble
with their
>sound equipment. As I recall, it was affecting their musicianship a
little.
>It was a good time, though!!!!!!!!! I wouldn't mind having a tape as
a souvenir..........
>
> Cat
I was there, too, along with my 14-year-old son (he was born when I
was 10 - yea right). Anyway, you are correct about sound problems -
remember when John Myung's bass rig took a shit for about 10 minutes?
He was pissed - I believe the Silent Man was seen to mouth the f-word a
few times that night. The cool thing was that Derek, John P and Mike
took the opportunity to extend the jazz/blues improv they sometimes do.
I remember being impressed by Derek's jazzy style.
Well, the acoustics at the Mammoth leave a lot to be desired - BUT -
KBPI radio did tape the concert and played it on the air Sunday night
of the next week. (This was before they jumped on the "alternative"
bandwagon (which is anything but)).
I taped the show, and the quality was really pretty decent! I got
mucho enjoyment from it until my tape also took a shit (the curse of
the Mammoth?) However, I saved the tape, and it _might_ be repairable.
I plan to find it and try to splice it or whatever it takes, since a
few people have asked for copies of it lately. I'll let you all know
if I have any success. Later,
Larry
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 22:29:14 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Math teachers, Attractiveness of
Message-ID: <199603140529.WAA22775@maple.enet.net>
>> <screen image wavers...fades to my dream>
>>Okay...this is the strange part--- Mike Portnoy leaned over and made out
>>with my math teacher.
>
>Hmmmm, you wouldn't have a crush on your math teacher, Ben, would you?
That is sooooooo NOT funny. You obviously haven't seen my math teacher.
>>Let me reiterate......just because somebody DOESN'T play anything
>>super-hard/complicated doesn't mean they CAN'T.
>
>Let me reiterate...just because somebody DOESN'T play anything
>super-hard/complicated doesn't mean they _CAN_.
We're both basically saying the same thing...just that one of us is more
pessimistic than the other. ;-)
>>Hell, I'd even consider the Toadies somewhat progressive, listen to I
>>come from the Water and that really overplayed one, what the hell is the
>>name again? HMMMM .....
I've heard two songs....they're both pretty much the same form. They both
have the same (4/4 3/4 4/4 4/4) time sig thing, and they both go down to a
bass/drum thing and build it back up....either way, I still can't help
myself from liking it. :-)
IMO, the .sig wars must continue till someone is thoroughly defeated.
YKYAYJ if you enjoy reading plays starring two sock puppets with Dream
Theater related names arguing about music and other things which sprung from
the mind of a unusual individual who uses the last name of a certain guitar
player.
BTW, New Metallica album June 3/4. Yay!
>A Damn Dyer
Damn Dyer's Eve?
Sheesh.
Ben Laussade
NEW FAVORITE SONG! Bananaphone
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:30:02 -0600
From: napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dew
Message-ID: <v01510101ad6d5d468d6f@[204.71.98.48]>
hiya,
I can't beliece that my sig has no graphics in it and it still gets this
many posts. Mountain Dew (regular) is great, it still tastes like humming
bird food but it has TONS of sugar and caffeine (more than Jolt which is
why I only drink fruit juices now). It's great to use right before a show
to get you psyched up. All my sig was saying was that DIET dew blows. I
can't believe there is so little to talk about on the Jam nowadays that
people are bashing my sig. ;-)
As to how now what urine looks like, my father is a nephrologist (kidney
doctor) and I've worked at his dialysis unit since i was 14 (I'm 18) as a
dialysis technician so I've seen ALL sorts of urine (it can be orange,
yellow, clear, BLUE or even BLACK-the last two represent severe renal
failure leading to daeth in a matter of days if not treated-NEVER SLIP
ANTIFREEZE INTO ANYONE"S DRINK -one of my friends had this done to him at
a party-his kidneys died and he is hooked up to a dialysis machine for
three hours a day, three days a week, this is not a funny prank, 1 once of
antifreeze will permantly kill your kidneys, any more will probably kill
you.
Hope this hasd been enlightening. :-)
napkins@clandjop.com
Seth Hatlelid
"Diet Mountain Dew is the biggest waste of space on the planet-no
sugar-none of that legendary caffeine, and it tastes like a urine sample!"
"The three best things in my life: Kristina Cline, Six-string basses, and a
full tank of gas!"
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 00:52:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Buying Prog CDs - Esp Progmetal
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960314003904.8404A-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Hello Jammers,
Some people have been asking about purchasing prog CDs.
My www page http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/munsign.html
has reviews and contact addresses (as well as WWW links, and e-mail
links), plus discographies and band member lists on the following bands
Anekdoten Angra Arcanum Auditory Imagery
BlackJester Boud Deun Braindance Curious Works
Divine Regale Elan Fourth Estate Iluvatar
Introspection Ivanhoe Jester Kingston Wall
Leger De Main Magellan Mastermind Process
Red Tide Salem Hill Season's End Shadow Gallery
Simple Truth Spirit Animal Superior Tempo Tantrum
Threshold Timescape Timothy Pure 23rd Hour
Vauxdvihl Velvet Hammer Visionary Gene Williams
I also have a page of just links to Indie Label band pages with more bands:
http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/munsign.link.html
To get your band included on the review page send a biography along with
a demo tape or CD to:
Michael Backof
1894 Uniontown Road
Westminster, MD 21158-3759
USA
I will include a band member list, discography, review, contact address,
and e-mail and WWW page links if applicable. I rotate the sound files
every few weeks.
If you just want to get on the links page, e-mail me that you want a link
and include the e-mail contact, WWW page address, and band name.
Sorry for the non-DT content but I figured a few of you would like to
check out reviews of related bands. The page is going to have some
structural renovations during spring break, including graphics and
frames, I will keep the current page updated for those who have older or
text based WWW browsers.
Later,
Mike
************************************************************************
*Mike Backof **** mbacko1@umbc.edu *** http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1 *
*Inferno Home Page ******* http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/inferno.html*
*Unsigned & Indie Label Bands Page ******************* Support *********
*http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/munsign.html ****** Local Bands *******
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 00:13:48 -0600 (CST)
From: The One Who Helps to Set the Sun <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: WDADU
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960314001243.5046F-100000@eehpx7.cen.uiuc.edu>
I just picked up the re-released version and it sounds much much much
better than the england import that i have. Kinda dissappointed that
there are no lyrics in this one but the sound quality is better.
Ed
[31mWWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/
[34mDT: http://isr0939.urh.uiuc.edu/dt/dt.htm
[35mBOOTLEGS: http://isr0939.urh.uiuc.edu/boots.htm
[35m------------------------------------------
[37mYou walk into a room to find only a
[37m dead man, shot through the head, a
[37m table, and fifty-three bicycles on
[37m the floor. What happened?
[35m------------------------------------------
[35m- finger polzin@students.uiuc.edu -
[35m- for the answer -
[35m------------------------------------------
[37m
[0m
On Tue, 12 Mar 1996 auhcy@asu.edu wrote:
> A while ago there was some talk about the re-release of WDADU, I guess
> they redid the sounds because I finally bought my own copy of WDADU for 9.98
> yesterday. (Never bought it because it was always for 28.99) I
> thought Charlie sounds pretty good. The sound quality is
> great, but there were no lyrics nor the pictures of the guys inside.
> The CD says it contains program transferred from analog tape. So did
> they redid the sounds or this is the original one that DT put out few
> years ago?
>
>
> Hui-Chi
> auhcy@asu.edu
> http://www.public.asu.edu/~auhcy
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "Can't think of a quote at this moment"
>
> hey, it's 3am OK!!
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 01:29:44 -0500 (EST)
From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Explore The Boundries)
Subject: Explore the Boundries
Message-ID: <199603140629.BAA17141@grex.cyberspace.org>
Hey,
I was just wondering how many of you have heard of me?
-Koggie
P.S. Dream Theater
-- -.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..J O H N K O T Z I A N : koggie@cyberspace.org bootlist@cyberspace.org
"I want to look at life, in the available light." - Rush "Let the light surround you." - Dream Theater "O.k., light up." - Bob McKenzie -.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 01:45:59 EST From: KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL) To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Are you Sure, Ben???? Message-ID: <096.03525053.KTYA28B@prodigy.com>
Ben....aka Baldy....aka Ytse-Ben Wrote:
>>IMO, the .sig wars must continue till someone is thoroughly defeated.
I Have been using PIECES of my 77 line Shadow Gallery SUPERSIG. It contains the FULL lyrics to Ghostship....and is UNBELIEVABLY IMMENSE. The infamous FATES WARNING SIG is fairly small in comparison....now I've gotten more POSITIVE replies about the .Sig War than negative. But...if I'm going to do this...I'm going to do it BIG. I gave my Enemy, the Masked Avenger a preview courtesy of HIS e-mail address. Now ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT ME TO DO IT? And Who will decide the victor??????? This thing could become a running war for many, many moons to come........is the 'Jam ready for it? And are there anymore Ytsewarriors ready to take up the slack when I have to like...work and such???? I'm beginning to think that The Masked One is at least as tenacious as I........and I would hate to miss out on a good counterattack just because I had to leave town for a few days. Sooo, Ben and all Ytsejammers reading these words.....think about this....and make YOUR WILL KNOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you want to see THE WHOLE PICTURE....THE BIG ENCHILADA......let me know...and you'll get the WHOLE THING. I've been NICE about this so far (evil snicker).
DT CONTENT: Larry...I just hope that you can save the 11/22/94 tape. I agree with you.....they made the bass mishap into a great opportunity for a jam. I was right up front.......lots and lots of fun! But, whew, was that a COLD DAMN NIGHT OR WHAT????? That's the last time I EVER SHOW UP EARLY FOR A CONCERT IN WINTER!!!!!!!
Cat
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~IN GODS WE TRUST......................................... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ALL OTHERS PAY CASH...................... -STEVEN BRUST
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 02:38:49 -0500 (EST) From: Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: YKYADTF if: Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960314022246.14224A-100000@solix>
- You give more money to Mike Bahr than you spend on your girlfriend.
- You actually enjoy wading through 120+ KB of e-mail daily.
- Any time you see the word "Theatre" it just strikes you as wrong.
- You rented _Wayne's World_ and _A Room With A View_ even though you don't particularly like either movie.
- You can spew forth music theory jargon with ease even though you don't play an instrument.
- One word: polytheism.
- You went out and sampled some Bombay Vindaloo even though you're not particularly fond of Indian food.
- You live in Seattle and you call up some guy in Florida you hardly know and agree to meet him somehwere in New Jersey. (This one's for you Bafu)
. . .. Elliott Kim Florida International University .. . ekim01@fiu.edu E-Man@dreamt.org . [gotta get something more obnoxious than this boring .sig]
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 00:21:34 -0800 From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT on Muchmusic Message-ID: <199603140821.AAA01120@ix6.ix.netcom.com>
Hi,
I need everyone's help with something. Muchmusic has a couple of cool shows; one's called Power30 and the other's Spotlight. Power30 is :30 M-Thur of Hard Rock/Metal videos and Spotlight is :30 of videos and rare interviews by a single group or artist. If I could get Everyone on this list to email Muchmusic requesting they play Dream Theater on either one of these shows, plus get everyone else you know to do the same, maybe we can get them to devote one of these shows to DT when the new disc comes out. We need to start working on them now so they can start talking to DT's management about booking them. When you email, please be as brief as possible (they usually respond to brief letters more often)and mention James' being Canadian since Canadian content is important in getting artists played. The email addresses are below. For San Franciscans. Is there anyone going to the Maiden show at the Fillmore on March 28? Maybe we should all meet before the show. Email me if this sounds good to you.
Scott Cook
Muchmusic addresses: Power30 <power30@muchmusic.com> Spotlight <muchmail@muchmusic.com>
Muchmusic Website: http://www.muchmusic.com/muchmusic
I PROMISE! If this works I WILL offer dubs to anyone that wants one at NO CHARGE!!!
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