YTSEJAM Digest 1350
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/14/96 - 08:49:01" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) seafsdf;lk
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
3) .SIG to end all .SIG's........Fates Warning!
by fates@ix.netcom.com (Carlo D'Angelo )
4) MacAlpine in Holland
by Kris Claerhout <100522.625@compuserve.com>
5) Education
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
6) A moment of your time?
by esb01@students.stir.ac.uk (E. Ballinger)
7) Finding prog CDs...
by schew@tis.com
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1348
by IP ROTHERHAM <ACC3IPR6@novell4.bham.ac.uk>
9) How to take over MTV (for a while, anyway)
by "Jonathan Byrne" <RRI02@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1349
by DreamEvil <lr8419@cnsvax.albany.edu>
11) The...Sig Wars. I WILL NOT be defeated.
by The Masked Avenger <hed@NorthNet.org>
12) Soungarden
by DreamNDay@aol.com
13) Korn!!!
by DreamNDay@aol.com
14) Anthrax
by DreamNDay@aol.com
15) DreamNDay Jam
by DreamNDay@aol.com
16) Chords.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
17) YTSEJAM digest 1325
by UMJG72D@prodigy.com (MS ANNA M STIGLIC)
18)
by DreamNDay@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 03:49:48 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/14/96 - 08:49:01" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199603140850.AAA07834@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 08:45:43 GMT on 14 Mar 1996 has been delivered.
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 01:16:50 -0800
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: The BafuJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: seafsdf;lk
Message-ID: <199603140916.BAA12196@cats.ucsc.edu>
I had a frightening vision of ytse-past meets ytse-present.
The religious right joins in the sig wars with a .sig containing an ACII
jesus and the complete lyrics to the new testament along with choice quotes
from the old, an ASCII cross, an ASCII representation of the vatican, and a
cute caricature of the pope. Now that's a Hell of a .sig. I hope I never
see it in this life or any other that may or may not exist depending on the
religious belief and/or beliefs of the listener, be that listener male or
female, of any ethnic descent including repressed minorities and repressive
majorities, of any sexual persuasion, be their amorous sight focused on men,
women or Bafu. Doesn't P.C. frighten you? Imagine having to tack a
disclaimer like that on to every damned sentence you write. I hope not to
see it in this lifetime or ... oh hell.
DTC: um ... um ... New Thread: let's discuss our opinions of the lyrical
meaning behind The Ytse Jam!
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 04:31:58 -0800
From: fates@ix.netcom.com (Carlo D'Angelo )
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: .SIG to end all .SIG's........Fates Warning!
Message-ID: <199603141231.EAA17829@ix9.ix.netcom.com>
>There's the Digital Man's .signature file, and there are many others
>that have entered this no-holds-barred contest, but the true Big, Bad,
>Mo'Fo' .Signature file that can kick all youse asses is the big-ass,
>scrolling for many pages upon pages, Fates Warning .sig that appeared
>many months ago, back on the .arastar.com Ytsejam - and was the cause
>of much flamage. Remeber that one? The dude had a huge ASCII "Fates
>Warning" and this big-ass tower and all the lyrics from "The Ivory
>Gate of Dreams."
>
> .
> .
> .. Elliott Kim Florida International
>University ..
> . ekim01@fiu.edu E-Man@dreamt.org
> .
Thanks Elliot...I loved it too (considering it took me forever to
create). I think Bafangulo was one of the Jammers who liked it and
some just got all pissy about it. So here it is in all its
glory....damn what a great song!!!!!! I also have a .SIG similar to
this but based on "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" by Iron
Maiden..hehe..I'll post it later on though :)
cheers,
Carlo (aka "Fates"..aka "YtseSatan")
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/\ "THE IVORY GATE OF DREAMS"
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/\ /__{}__\ /\ Enter ivory gates through midnight skies
/**\/________\/**\ Daylight dreamers in private parades
/__________________\ Perform before perpetual dawn
| [] []| As dusk engulfs the gate of horn
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|] [] | Ivory towers appear beyond the gate
| [] [] | Invisible fortresses of escape
| [] [] | Traversed by ramparts made of hopes and fears
| [] [| Impervious to reality
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| [] [] | A cold daze plagues the air
| [] [] | Driven by aging winds
|_______[]_________| The walls give way to the rush
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Date: 14 Mar 96 09:46:55 EST
From: Kris Claerhout <100522.625@compuserve.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: MacAlpine in Holland
Message-ID: <960314144655_100522.625_JHB110-7@CompuServe.COM>
Hi you all,
ref: MacAlpine in Holland.
The guys have been seeing the mail on the list and really appreciate it.
Kris - still on the road with those guys!
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:00:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
To: DT List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Education
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603140916.A54299-0100000@acs5.bu.edu>
I learned a few things in the last jam:
1) Kirk Hammet has left Metallica and is now pursuing a career as a clown
who sloppily beats people over the head with a ukelele.
2) June 3/4 exits. It is somewhere between midnight on May 31st and
12:00am on June 1st.
3) Diet Mountain Dew is made out of antifreeze, and if you drink it,
your lungs will shrivel up and you'll die a slow agonizing death.
4) Signature files can actually fight one another.
5) Dream Theater's lead singer is Marilyn Monroe and the band has been
banned from several venues because she mutilates herself onstage.
I think that's everything for now.
\o/ --==Brian Wherry==-- o
| --==bwherry@acs.bu.edu==-- /|\
/ \ "Do. Or do not. There is no try." -Yoda / \
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 15:22:28 +0000
From: esb01@students.stir.ac.uk (E. Ballinger)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A moment of your time?
Message-ID: <v01520d04ad6de7b6e9a9@[139.153.41.150]>
Hey there,
Don't know how many of you will have heard about this, but yesterday
(Wednesday) some madman armed with 4 pistols went into a primary school in
Dunblane, Scotland and shot dead 16 5-year-old kids and their teacher,
before shooting himself. Dunblane's only 10 mins drive from where I stay,
but thankfully I don't know anyone involved. It kind of brings it home to
you what a fucked up world we live in. So if you've got a spare moment,
stick on Eve or Another Day, and just think about those kids and the grief
their parents must be feeling. It's only a little thing but it might make a
difference somewhere. Thanks.
Edd Ballinger.
esb01@students.stir.ac.uk
Cheers... Edd.
__________ ___ http://forth.stir.ac.uk/~esb01
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 11:41:38 -0500 (EST)
From: schew@tis.com
To: acook@tiac.net, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Finding prog CDs...
Message-ID: <11803.9603141641@ragnarok.tis.com>
If you're looking for CDs by bands like Shadow Gallery,
Magellan, or others on the Magna Carta label, and you have access
to the WWW, you can order them from E-Music: http://emusic.com
They have all of the Magna Carta releases for about $13.67
plus $1.00 shipping. I've found the E-Music has about the cheapest
prices on average for most of the online music stores.
There's a WWW site called the CD Bargain Finder which you
can use to find prices on a particular CD online. You have to know
both the artist name and album title though. The CD Bargain Finder
URL is: http://bf.cstar.ac.com/bf/
If you need even harder to find prog CDs, you can call
"Of Sound Mind" (410) 529-7082 in Baltimore and order them.
Steve
--
Steve Chew - schew@tis.com
"Bleating and babbling we fell on his neck with a scream.
Wave upon wave of demented avengers march cheerfully
out of obscurity into the dream."
- Pink Floyd, "Sheep" from "Animals"
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 15:39:45
From: IP ROTHERHAM <ACC3IPR6@novell4.bham.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1348
Message-ID: <10D4B391E06@novell4.bham.ac.uk>
Regarding Paradise Lost
They are a band who come from Halifax, Yorkshire in England, although
they presently live in nearby Bradford.
They have released five albums
Lost Paradise
Gothic
Shades of God
Icon
Draconian Times
These last two albums are well recommended, and indeed Draconian
Times was voted one of the best albums of 1995 by UK readers of
Kerrang! magazine.
Their lead singer, Nick Holmes is presently doing a charity motorbike
ride across the Australian outback.
If you are interested in quality metal, you should check out this
band ASAP.
Ian Rovs
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 11:53:34 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jonathan Byrne" <RRI02@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>
To: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@AX.COM>
Subject: How to take over MTV (for a while, anyway)
Message-ID: <199603141705.JAA14837@mindcrime.ax.com>
Hi all
For a while now, the 'Jam has been populated by numerous schemes to
spread the gospel (oops) of DT to the world. From the Letterman thing
to Email campaign to bring back the Headbanger's Ball, they have pretty much
not done any good. Anyway, last night, I had an idea (I know it's rare, but
it happens).
Most of you are probably familiar with that damn Yack Live thing MTV does
when they have the comment in some AOL chat room displayed on the bottom of
the screen underneath a video. People comment on it, and generally act
stupid. But as a video comes to an end, people start up a "Hey, play x
next!", or whatever. Well, what if a whole bunch of AOL 'Jammers got on
there, and when the MTV guy asks for a next video, everybody in the whole
damn thing goes "PLAY SOME DREAM THEATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
It might not work, but it would be kinda fun. Whadya' think?
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"There's no one left alive Jonathan Byrne
Must be a draw West Virginia University
So the Blackcap Barrons toss a coin rri02@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
To settle the score!"
-"The Battle of Epping Forest", Genesis
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:36:24 -0500 (EST)
From: DreamEvil <lr8419@cnsvax.albany.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1349
Message-ID: <01I2BWWVGHRIHTRX97@cnsvax.albany.edu>
>From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Re: Soungarden
>Actually, the other Toadies song I was thinking of is that one that goes
>
>Make up your mind
That's Possum Kingdom, Damon. As for the Toadies, they put on an incredible
live show. Tons of energy there. The bassist kinda scares me though.
Anyone else who's seen them in concert knows what I'm talking about. (That
foot swing thing. yeesh. Just looks all wierd-like)
>From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
>To: Ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Marilyn Manson and SDV
>Get ready for one show <BIG grin> Marilyn Manson are those bi-sexual,
>cross dressing, killer name taking, "anti-christ superstar" guys! They
>put out a REALLY great show i've heard... the lead singer (Marilyn
>Manson) totally self mutilates himself on stage and all sorts of other
>stuff... they've been banned from several places too... thats just a
>LITTLE of what to expect ;)
Hehe... MM is quite an interesting act in concert. I've seen them 3 times,
all with NIN, and they know how to put on a show. My favorite part of their
set is when they do the Willy Wonka Boat scene... incredible stuff, there.
(sorry no DTC this time around! :))
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| IRC: DreamEvil |
| EMail: DreamEvil@dreamt.org |
| "Death is the First Dancing Turtle." - Bafu Vai |
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 14:27:22 -0800
From: The Masked Avenger <hed@NorthNet.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The...Sig Wars. I WILL NOT be defeated.
Message-ID: <31489D4A.2A25@northnet.org>
...INCOMMING MESSAGE TO THE INFAMOUS 'CAT' AND ALL CITIZENS OF JAM ISLE WHO
ARE CONTEMPLATING JOINING HER IN HER FOOLISH QUEST FOR VICTORY......
Hello, Jammers! Masked Avenger here!
Well, as you may have already noticed, the SIG wars are moving from their
small-scale skirmishes between Mutant Moo-Cows and Hyper-Marshmellow Chickens
into something much more. Cat has just sent me a nice little preview of what
she has to offer and, well, I have one thing to say...
HA!
Lay it on, you big feline terror! I fear NO ONE!!! Is that all you have to
offer? They are both very cool, yes, but COME ON! You think, I , the Masked
Avenger, Conquerer of Worlds, Master of Illusions, Melter of Marshmellows,
don't have anything to retaliate? HA! Our brief exchange of forces via
email was...interesting, I'll admit. But, I am not in the least bit worried.
I have SIG warriors in my arsenal that would make both her "Doomsday
Weapons" combined shudder and flee in blind terror.
SO...I make a final proposition. I realize that the Glorious Cat does
have to work, as do I. Is this war going to expand into global proportions?
If so, now is the time to take sides. I, the Masked Avenger, will accept
ANYONE who is willing to join forces with me. Cat needs someone to defend
her in her absence, and so do I. But, let it be known to all my future
allies that this is THE YTSEJAM. All of my(our) attacks will contain DT
CONTENT to quell the rage and flames of those who object to this conflict. I
have noticed that many are in favor, so LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!!!! :)
Better yet, I'll make it official:
I, THE MASKED AVENGER, ON THIS DAY OF MARCH 14, 1996 YTSEJAM #1350, DO
HEREBY DECLARE AN ALL-OUT BATTLE OF CREATIVITY ON THE VILE 'CAT' AND ALL WHO
JOIN HER. I HAVE SPOKEN, PREPARE TO DIE.
With Honor,
The Masked Avenger
DT CONTENT:
I saw a post about Metallica in Comparison to DT, I would like to add my
POV. I do agree that DT is the all time 'King' of Metal-both progressive or
otherwise. I used to listen to Metallica a lot, but I lost interest when they
became over-popularized. Do you think we, as loyal DT fans, like the fact
that "our" band is kind of "underground"? I do. I really don't think tons of
radio and TV time have much to do with it, either. I know tons of people who
flock to Metallica concerts without a care to what the music is about, they
just want to bang their heads around and hurt people. At a DT show,
everybody is there because they LOVE the band and the music. I kind of like
that. Who wants a myriad of the "We only listen to the hits" crowd? It's
like the people who go "Yeah! I love Rush! Man, that new song! What is it,
Tom Sawer? It rules!" :) I'm sure you people know what I mean. Oh, well.
Just a mindless thought. Thanks for listening.
--
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"Attention All Planets of the Solar Federation,
We Have Assumed Control..."
P.S. I agree with Seth, Diet Dew is Horrid! :)
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 15:37:14 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Soungarden
Message-ID: <960314153714_351220987@mail02.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-03-12 21:28:23 EST, you write:
>If you want to class Sound Garden, try progressive. If you need proof,
listen
>to some songs off of SuperUnknown alone. My Wave, mostly in 5/4 time with
>some time changes. Fell on Black Days, in 6/4 and 9/4, I thnk. SpoonMan is
in
>7/4 and 4/4. From BADMOTORFINGER, listen to Rusty Cage and Outshine which
>change times as well. All right, they're not as complex as DT, but they are
>no Bush or nirvana. Neoprogressive maybe? Fight me on this? Be my guest, but
>when a band changes time sigs like that, I consider them somewhat
>progressive. Hell, I'd even consider the Toadies somewhat progressive,
>listen to I come from the Water and that really overplayed one, what the
>hell is the name again? HMMMM .....
Hell, yeah! I also was thinking the same thing while listening to Alice In
Chains' Dirt, where a few of the songs are in different time sigs. (Them
Bones, Damn That River, etc.), except I don't feel the Toadies are very good
at all. BTW, I come From the Water IS the really overplayed one. ;)
A Damn Dyer
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 15:37:18 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Korn!!!
Message-ID: <960314153716_351221019@mail06.mail.aol.com>
>Aren't they the folks who do that innane nursery-rhyme song? I equate them
as on the >same level as POTUSA for that, and I didn't go to see Ozzy because
they were >opening. If I am wrong, please inform me in private.
Pot what? Shoots and Ladders isn't innane. It's a kick-ass metal song that
you have to learn to like. Korn is one of theose bands that you son't say are
OK, you either like em, or you don't. I like em!
A Damn Dyer
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 15:37:19 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Anthrax
Message-ID: <960314153717_351221040@emout04.mail.aol.com>
Hey, I just finally saw Anthrax on Married With Childeren (lol!) I tell you,
they should be on more sitcoms. They can make the most overused jokes on that
show seem funny, like when Marcy comes in and Charlie says "Nice to meet you,
sir". that joke has been used hundreds of times on that show, but he actually
had me laughing out loud at that one. BTW, David Faustino would get killed in
a mosh pit! Speaking of TV, did anyone happen to catch Ozzy on the Tom Snyder
show last week?
A Damn Dyer
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 15:52:51 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DreamNDay Jam
Message-ID: <960314153715_351221007@mail04.mail.aol.com>
Scott Cook wrote:
>To: DreamNDay Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
I sthis supposed to be a compilment or a hint saying I post too much (which I
know I do, thank you very much!)
A Damn Dyer
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 15:14:07 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Chords.
Message-ID: <199603142214.PAA21561@maple.enet.net>
Hello once again, Ytse-Goers.
I can't ever think of anything new/creative to play on the piano
when I feel like playing something new/creative on the piano. SO! I'm
asking you to please send me your favortie chord progression to keep me busy
for a while. ;-) Thanks!!!!!
>In my very HO, Kirk also plays like a clown that just picked up an
>electric ukulele. He is sloppy, man! Again, in my opinion, Metallica
>doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath (or on the same
>'jam) as the GODS we know as Dream Theater! OK, headbangers, let the
>flames commence!
The reason I came to like DT could not have been their technical
ability. There's no way. Because, when I first started listening to them,
I had no idea that JP, JM and KM were extraordinarily talented. I didn't
really know what a extremely good guitar (and bass and keys...but guitar for
now) player sounded like. I didn't know that he was good till I came on
this list and everybody talked about it. After that, I started paying more
attention to the guitar and the ability that it took to play like that.
Metallica (Kirk in particular) does nothing like that. I thought Kirk was a
really good guitar player, just the same as I thought that Lars was the best
drummer ever. I didn't know good until I heard better. But, Kirk, Lars,
James and Jason do what they want to do and I like it. Let me reiterate
something else this time. Technical ability does NOT equal a good band.
Technical ability is only good when you use it for good music. I wonder why
we find so much emotion in Dream Theater music, yet other people say it is
completely heartless? Please don't reply to this and say "Because they're
stupid." That's stupid. :-) But still, it's a question to ponder.
Did I mention that Space-Dye Vest is a great song?
About the .sig war again...I find it strangely amusing. Bring on the
GhostShip!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just thought of something.....even though YtseCon Vegas will be really
cool no matter what, it would be reeeeeallly cool if the band came. :-) :-)
Ben Laussade
Whatever tears at us.....whatever brings us down, and if nothing can be done
we'll make the best of what's around. :-)
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:44:53 EST
From: UMJG72D@prodigy.com (MS ANNA M STIGLIC)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1325
Message-ID: <013.03564537.UMJG72D@prodigy.com>
i am going slightly insane here...i know this says the subject is
Ytsejam 1325, but its not, really. i have just finished READING
Ytsejam 1325...i have just RECEIVED Ytsejam 1345. my mailbox is
becoming overrun with Ytsejam's and my brain is about to explode!
it's March 14th, but i'm reading mail from March 5th!! pardon me if
i sound a bit irate, but i'm running on 5 hours of sleep in two days.
anyone got a cure for insomnia? (NyQuil doesn't phase me in the
least...i think i'm immune to it)
well, i must get back to my...(yech)...reading.
just voicing my anger...and i'm sure there are more people here like
me...
buhbye now...
Anna:-)
ps this is my first post EVER to the Ytsejam, and i've been
receiving it since december...so this is kinda my "debut" here...
anyone know where Farmingdale is? (hint: Long Island...) i only
know of one other DT fan, him being my boyfriend...(he introduced me
to them...i'll love him forever fer that...)
okay, now i'm rambling...that's it. i'm done.
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 18:08:44 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
Message-ID: <199603142308.SAA28281@emout05.mail.aol.com>
y got sick
>and had to postpone the show. It has been rescheduled, though (I know a lot
>of you out there were holding your breath for that info),
Actually, I was. Well, not really, but that show was gonna be an FM
broadcast, and I had planned on taping it. Too, bad because my reception was
crystal-clear that night, and that may never happen again!
A Damn Dyer
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