YTSEJAM Digest 1353
Today's Topics:
1) PROBLEMS GETTING ON METROPOLIS LIST!!! :(
by Timothy Lodge <axe@usa.nai.net>
2) Worthless posts...
by Adam Pye <alpine@negia.net>
3) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/15/96 - 06:51:16" <response@ibmmail.com>
4) Kudos to Skadz --
by "Steven C. Young" <syoung@primenet.com>
5) Enough!
by KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
6) JP and Tony McAlpine in The Netherlands
by "Cesare Tirabassi (NSI)" <CTIRABAS@estec.esa.nl>
7) is this the dream theater address?
by daveyu@ucla.edu
8) Progressive? / Eve / IRC
by esb01@students.stir.ac.uk (E. Ballinger)
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1352
by scheponi@ncemt1.ctc.com (Scheponik, Paul)
10) Magna Carta/Rush Trib/Me
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1351
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
12) Pictures from Birch Hill are on my web page now
by Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1351
by Greg J Gilbertson <spiph@cvfn.org>
14) Space Dye Vest on the Awake cover
by MATTHEW D PASTOR <S_MDPASTOR@vaxa.clarion.edu>
15) stuff, actual DT content!
by acook@tiac.net (acook)
16) Just something
by YAP <auhcy@asu.edu>
17) Space-Dye Vest
by slang@internexus.net
18) Re: la dee da
by ICKLESTICK <TRMD@grove.iup.edu>
19) Re: kevin moore 'chroma key' demos
by ICKLESTICK <TRMD@grove.iup.edu>
20) Is it you?
by Scott Daugherty <SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
21) A Tasty Black Sabbath Rumor (ndtc)
by dneff@maaco.com (David Neff)
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 01:17:40 GMT
From: Timothy Lodge <axe@usa.nai.net>
To: YTSEJAM@AX.COM
Subject: PROBLEMS GETTING ON METROPOLIS LIST!!! :(
Message-ID: <199603150117.BAA17820@usa.nai.net>
Attention Jammers!
Thanks to all who forwarded me information on how to join the
Metropolis emailing list. But it has not worked..In fact,
when i sent a "lists" request to listproc@ax.com to see if it was on there
this what i got back:
>Here is the current active list of the 2 mailing lists served by this server:
>
>freaks@ax.com Marillion/Fish List
>ytsejam@ax.com Dream Theater List
so what gives? Anyone with specific info on successfully getting onto the list,
please email me. I've already tried sending email to
metropolis-request@ax.com ..
Thanks
Tim
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 01:39:50 -0500
From: Adam Pye <alpine@negia.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Worthless posts...
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960315063950.00675aa8@negia.net>
---------Cat said...
>Everything I've done HAS COME FROM MY OWN KEYBOARD, MISTER. I don't know
>about anybody else here....but I HAVE WORKED HOURS ON SOME OF THIS! Now,
>kiss my ASCII! I asked the Ytsecommunity for their support in this...and
>so far I've got it. I don't have access to ANY ASCII pages. I use my
>monthly hours getting and sending e-mail! So I KNOW it gets expensive.
>That's why I've asked for permission from the Ytsecommunity. If you
>notice....alot of MY stuff has to do with either music or threads that pop
>up on the 'Jam. Such as the Moo Cow. And the forthcoming Mountain Dew
>comeback. I'm sorry if this is a waste to you. I receive this list as
>much for the general good humour of the 'Jammers themselves as for HARD
>information and facts.
I think it's gone a bit too far when people get in a multipage
argument about ASCII art. Sure, I agree that the list shouldn't just be
announcements like metropolis@arastar.com, though that list is definitely
useful, but hundred line .sig files are just plain immature. Take that kind
of thing to Email. Maybe announce it and see who wants to have it sent to
them. It's this kinda thing that makes the Jam so unreadable. We get a
couple hundred K of posts a day and instead of being able to browse through
them to get some good info and discussion, we get huge threads of .sig wars
and the relative merits, or lack thereof, of Diet Mountain Dew. You, and
those that make these huge works of "art," apparently have the time to spend
multiple hours in front of the computer screen, and that's fine. But be
considerate enough to keep it private. It allows those who don't have the
time for it, or simply enjoy being in the physical world a few minutes a
day, to read what they find interesting and leave it at that. Hell, I had
.sig wars when I was 14 years old on bbs's. This isn't directed at you
specifically Cat, and isn't meant as flame bait. I'm just asking people to
keep huge posts that are of interest to, at best, a select few on the list,
out of the public domain. Thanks...
Adam Pye
- alpine@negia.net
- http://www.negia.net/~alpine
- Ask for the bootlist!
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 01:52:03 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/15/96 - 06:51:16" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199603150654.WAA25628@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 06:36:30 GMT on 15 Mar 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped.
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 00:53:58 -0700
From: "Steven C. Young" <syoung@primenet.com>
To: "'YtseJam Digest'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Kudos to Skadz --
Message-ID: <01BB1209.FFCAB160@ip133.tus.primenet.com>
>Stop the damned sig wars. Go to alt.ascii.art, just f**kin
>stop. I don't have time to moderate the list right now, or something
>like this continuing would force me to start. OK?
>Thank you
No... thank YOU, Skadz. Why don't we see if we can do something
about the whole Mountain Dew vs. Urine Sample issue, too.
Does anybody know if Galactic Cowboys are touring alone or with a
supporting act? They are hitting Tucson on April 3rd, but the show is
being promo'ed as a single bill.
I'm on the third row for the upcoming Ozzy/Sepultura/Marilyn Manson
show, and based on what I've heard recently concerning MM (assuming
it's true), it should be a fine, fine show - NOT!!!
I'm pretty stoked - I'm a drummer and I just found out not too long ago
that I use the same splash cymbal that Mike Portnoy has in his arsenal
(Sabian B8 Pro). I play TAMA's - HE used to play TAMA's. I sport facial
hair - HE sports facial hair. English? We BOTH speak it -- FLUENTLY!
Hell, I'm practically Mike himself!!! ;)
Yeah, all right, WHO CARES!!! But, I had to throw in a bit of DT content
somewhere.
Steve from Tucson
syoung@primenet.com
PRINCETON 43, UCLA 41
Two of the most beautiful words in the English language: BRUINS LOSE!!!
(sorry L.A. Jammers) - GO ARIZONA!!!
P.S. Hey, Mike (Bahr)! My computer took a dump last week and I can't find
your E-mail address. Drop me a line and pass it on, eh? (I need a 'Critical
Mass' update - I have another buyer for you)
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 03:54:09 EST
From: KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Enough!
Message-ID: <096.03608431.KTYA28B@prodigy.com>
O.k....folks. I KNOW that the .Sig turned into a big pile
of horsecrap in digest mode. I know HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT.
I can't help but have to laugh at the hundreds of lines
that have been wasted complaining about it when ALL that was
needed was Skadz' reply. All I can say is this....like
yesterday's pizza, this too shall pass. NOW GET OVER IT
ALREADY!! If you want Dream Theater content...start TALKING
ABOUT DREAM THEATER! Sheesh!
One SERIOUS thing...if you really want to cut down on the
amount of space wasted on your computer....get OUT OF DIGEST
FORM. You'll be able to delete unwanted posts with the
touch of a button and retain ONLY the posts you want. You
can also view Subject and Skip it or delete it if it doesn't
look interesting. It might seem as if it takes a long time
to download so many posts...but it might surprise you about
how much more manageable it is. I've tried both forms and I
think that the Digest form definitely sucks when you're
dealing with the volume of posts the Ytsejam generates.
Cat
~~~~~~~~~IN GODS WE TRUST........................
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ALL OTHERS PAY CASH.............
-STEVEN BRUST
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 10:19:07 CET
From: "Cesare Tirabassi (NSI)" <CTIRABAS@estec.esa.nl>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: JP and Tony McAlpine in The Netherlands
Message-ID: <199603150920.BAA27449@mindcrime.ax.com>
Just wanted to update you on the JP clinic here in The Netherlands. The clinic
is going to be in Den Bosch, the place is Willem II (which seems to be
down town, nice place with 600 seats and a good cafe'), the date is March 19.
Only thing I do not know for sure its time, anyone has any more info?
On TMA, I went to the gig in Leiden ... what a great show!!! Tamas opened for
them, and that was already a good start. The trio is unbelievable, a bunch of
very talented and gifted musicians. Its impressing to see Tony playing his
guitar with no fret inlays ... not that he needs those, he played 99% of the
show with closed eyes .... the remaining 1% is exactly the amount of time the
bass player actually stood still (the guy is an excellent bass player, and a
very good showman too). Mike Terrana on drums (ex Yngwie Malmsteen) did one
hell of a drum solo, I felt exhausted for him at the end ....
Cesare
PS. Check out the Progressive Rock: Dutch Gig Guide if you want to be up to
date on the Dutch rock scene :
http://145.89.78.151/~martijn/NlGigs.html
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I have a message to deliver to the cute people of the world ... if you
are cute, or may be you're beautiful ... there's MORE OF US UGLY MOTHER
FUCKERS OUT THERE THAN YOU ARE!! So watch out. FZ
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 00:39:16 -0800
From: daveyu@ucla.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: is this the dream theater address?
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960315083916.002c86d4@pop.ben2.ucla.edu>
"hello...is there anybody out there?"
i heard that this was the address to mail to hook up and talk about
this great band. if time permits, and i have miraculously gotten the right
address, id greatly appreciate any info on dream theater internet stuff.
thanks,
dave
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 14:28:23 +0000
From: esb01@students.stir.ac.uk (E. Ballinger)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Progressive? / Eve / IRC
Message-ID: <v01520d01ad6f176a1d89@[139.153.41.158]>
>If you want to class Sound Garden, try progressive. If you need proof,
listen
>to some songs off of SuperUnknown alone. My Wave, mostly in 5/4 time with
>some time changes. Fell on Black Days, in 6/4 and 9/4, I thnk.
>Hell, yeah! I also was thinking the same thing while listening to Alice In
>Chains' Dirt, where a few of the songs are in different time sigs. (Them
>Bones, Damn That River, etc.)
Does playing in an odd time signature mean that you are playing progressive
music? Take Sting's 'Ten Summoners Tales' album for example. The song 7
days is in 5/4 and a few of the others are in 7, but it could hardly be
described as progressive ... or could it?
Does anyone know why when DT recorded Eve, found on The Silent Man CD
single, they didn't include the samples on it as in the version on
Subconscious? I understand that they didn't always use the samples when
playing it live but IMO they add tremendously to the song. Opinions...?
Will anyone be on IRC on Sunday? I'm bringing a couple of my mates across
to use the net at the uni and kinda hoped that there'd be a few of you
american guys there to welcome them. We'll probably be on in the afternoon
here, which will be early morning for you. Oh well, yer'll probably all be
in bed!
Sleep well!!
Cheers... Edd.
__________ ___ http://forth.stir.ac.uk/~esb01
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Date: 15 Mar 96 10:33:18 EST
From: scheponi@ncemt1.ctc.com (Scheponik, Paul)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1352
Message-ID: <2277493101A72C79@-SMF->
Somehow I started getting email from this list. Please recheck you list
& remove my address if it somehow has erroneously been placed in your
group.
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:50:19 -0500 (EST)
From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Explore The Boundries)
Subject: Magna Carta/Rush Trib/Me
Message-ID: <199603151551.KAA07051@grex.cyberspace.org>
Hey,
Damn Dyer' Maker?
I just got off the phone with a Shrapnel/Magna Carta
representative and he told me that the re-release of Shadow Gallery's
debut album "Shadow Gallery" was supposed to be released this spring but
has been pushed back indefinitley.
He also told me that the Rush Tribute album is slated for release
in June.
Has anyone ever heard of me?
Damn Tie-Dyer'?
-Koggie
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J O H N K O T Z I A N : koggie@cyberspace.org
bootlist@cyberspace.org -Trade account
"I want to look at life, in the available light." - Rush
"Let the light surround you." - Dream Theater
"O.k., light up." - Bob McKenzie
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:55:43 -0500 (EST)
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1351
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603151034.C25370-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL)
> Subject: You Asked For It...
Who, me? Us? Come on. Enough already. Fight in private.
----> From: Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com> > Subject: Kevin and .sigs > > So has anybody coughed up the cash for Kevin Moore's new tape > available at his website? Are these the same songs from his
I have. Mailed the check out this morning.
> demo tapes that have been going around? (which I haven't heard,
Not if you go by song titles. Either way, though, I can't wait. Two words: Mark Fuckin' Zonder.
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> From: WildKoba@aol.com > Subject: stuff > > love, hate and goats. > david
Something tells me I don't want to know.
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> From: swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson) > Subject: It grows on you > > Has DT got a direction for the new album yet? any predictions from > jammers? Oh, yeah. If I were on Aol I would do the Mtv yak thing just to > tick off everyone in the higher up offices of MTV. Who are they to dictate > what the youth of America listens to? I encourage all AOL jammers to use up > your parent's account and spread the DT word on MTV.
Um, we're not all 15, and our parents aren't all dumb enough to subscribe to AOL.
Sorry, I'm a little edgy. I recently spent 32 hours in a row awake, living on nothing but Mountain Dew and Twinkies. Cut me a little slack, eh?
------------------------------------------------------------------------ \|/ ____ \|/ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "@'/ ,. \`@" cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" /_| \__/ |_\ d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/ http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:54:10 -0800 (PST) From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Pictures from Birch Hill are on my web page now Message-ID: <199603151654.QAA22397@fraser.sfu.ca>
Hey,
I scanned 6 pictures that i took at the DT show in Old Bridge, NJ this past december. i used a disposable panorama type of camera (FUJI). They came out not too bad. check them out, and let me know what you think. Also if you see yourself in one of the pictures, let me know who you are :) the url is: http://204.191.160.2/~saltman/pics.html
tim
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 12:35:35 -0600 (CST) From: Greg J Gilbertson <spiph@cvfn.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1351 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960315122852.23157B-100000@sawdust.cvfn.org>
someone asked about old petrucci columns in guitar world. i'm a huge petrucci fan and i've read MOST of his stuff. i was "cruizing the net" the other day on netscape and i thought i came across where i could get them. my knowledge of the net and of computers in general is primitive (as is my spelling). i thing i went into "Dream Theater" or "Petrucci" or something like that. anyway, my point is that it IS on there. good luck man.
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 13:35:16 -0500 (EST) From: MATTHEW D PASTOR <S_MDPASTOR@vaxa.clarion.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Space Dye Vest on the Awake cover Message-ID: <960315133517.20402039@vaxa.clarion.edu>
I may have a solution or partial solution to the question of whether or not "Space Dye Vest is represented on the cover of Awake. First of all we see a planet, moon, and some stars. This takes care of the "space" part as in outer space. "divest" I took to mean vast or huge and then I realized that I was thinking of "diverse". Then I looked up diverse and it meant a number of different qualities or characteristics. Divest actually means "to deprive as of rights or property" or... "to free or rid of" or... "to sell or otherwise dispose of"
Perhaps Kevin was using a variation of the word diverse to convey that he was "disposed of" by his girlfriend. What this has to do with the cover I have no idea, but there are a "diverse" amount of items on the album cover.
or maybe he was just writing about some clothes......
Matt P.
P.S. If you look closely enough it looks like the statue is wearing some sort of vest-type article.
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 15:49:38 -0500 From: acook@tiac.net (acook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: stuff, actual DT content! Message-ID: <199603152049.PAA01865@zork.tiac.net>
Hey Jammers,
Just went looking over Guitar World online, and Ibanez has announced that the JPM100, is now known as the JPM1002 and will be a regular production model! That oughta drop the price a bit, now I have to decide if I want to keep my lovely Ibanez S470, or go for the JPM. I almost definitely can't afford both.
Also, the Jammer (I forget who) who sent a letter to Guitar magazine, when the magazine claimed ACOS was "a trifle over-indulgent", got published. I'm not sure if this is good or bad. Unfortunately when I read the letter in print it sounded very immature. I'm sure this wasn't the Jammers intention, however that's how it appeared to me in print. If somebody could either check out the April issue of Guitar magazine or re-post the letter and tell me what they think, that would be cool. ciao Adam Cook acook@tiac.bet visit me at, http://www.tiac.net/users/com (hard hat construction area!)
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 14:06:35 -0700 (MST) From: YAP <auhcy@asu.edu> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Just something Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960315140328.13032A-100000@email1.asu.edu>
One of my classmates recently just loaded 150+ fonts into the class computer and I saw a font named after John P!! It's called Petrucci Music Font. The text itself is music notes. Pretty neat, ugh.
Hui-Chi auhcy@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~auhcy
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:17:29 -0500 From: slang@internexus.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Space-Dye Vest Message-ID: <199603152117.QAA13030@micro.internexus.net>
DreamNDay was wondering what a space-dye vest was.. According to the FAQ, it's an article of clothing Kevin Moore saw modeled in some magazine.
.-[ Greg Slang, xanadu@internexus.net ]-.
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:45:08 -0500 (EST) From: ICKLESTICK <TRMD@grove.iup.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: la dee da Message-ID: <01I2DHPRWATU8WXGD2@grove.iup.edu>
To the person who said that Mountain Dew shrinks your nuts, shrink, errr, I mean think again. It doesn't actually SHRINK them, but it DOES lower your sperm count. That is not neccesarily a bad thing, the way like is going. It's almost coming out of my ears, I can't hold it in.....ahhhhhhhhh. Never mind. Hey, pass the Dew..... Icklestick
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:50:36 -0500 (EST) From: ICKLESTICK <TRMD@grove.iup.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: kevin moore 'chroma key' demos Message-ID: <01I2DHYF7T4O8WXGD2@grove.iup.edu>
Can someone please remind me how to get these Kevin Demos? Thanks Icklestick
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 17:18:20 EST From: Scott Daugherty <SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU> To: ytsejam <YTSEJAM@AX.COM> Subject: Is it you? Message-ID: <960315.172853.EST.SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Hey,
Recently someone e-mailed me about obtaining a DAT copy of the 12/29 show. Sorry, but I inadvertantely deleted the message, so please e-mail me again.
Since we seem to be running out of topics, I thought I'd try to liven things up with a couple of questions: 1) When was this list formed, and who formed it? 2) Were YOU one of the original members? 3) How many people were on the list when it began?
I hope you don't think this is irrelevant, but I've only been on the jam since the beginning of the year, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who is interested.
Until next time,
Scott Daugherty
"I was blinded by a pair of dice." -ACOS
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 17:44:02 -0500 From: dneff@maaco.com (David Neff) To: ytsejam@ax.com ('on-line "Ytse-Jammers"') Subject: A Tasty Black Sabbath Rumor (ndtc) Message-ID: <1996Mar15.173300.1059.3517@smtp.maaco.com>
Hi Gang, A friend of mine recently interviewed Geezer Butler, who told her that Black Sabbath would soon be getting a new vocalist ... Rob Halford!!! Ooooooh goodygoodygoody! I REALLY hope this is true. Given that this info comes from Geezer, I expect it is. 8^D
I saw AC/DC in Philly last night - great show, tons o' fun. And I hear tell that Joe Satriani will be at the Electric Factory on Sat. April 13. See ya there!
- Dave (dneff@maaco.com)
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