YTSEJAM Digest 1362
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/21/96 - 22:21:16" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) FAQ
by DreamNDay@aol.com
3) We're there...
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1361
by Jeremy Longley <jcl1008@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
5) asdf
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DRen=E9?= Gaudet <jrgaudet@sympatico.ca>
6) Dtrib
by "Jill M. Lentchner" <jmlentch@mailbox.syr.edu>
7) ACoS video
by ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
8) college radio
by Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@mailhost.vwc.edu>
9) Re: Cynic plays w/ DT on Rush tribute!!
by Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
10) Re: Carpe Diem
by bosox1@ix.netcom.com (Craig Francis Moran)
11) questions
by YAP <auhcy@asu.edu>
12) ACoS Video, Braveheart, X-mas dubs
by "Devil's Plaything" <papined@pr.erau.edu>
13) Madrigal Misc. Miasma
by Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
14) Misunderstandings
by Darren Redick <yusckx@private.nethead.co.uk>
15) Dream n day?
by kurt@fgallery.com
16) Victor, KM
by "Siegfried Hanisch" <siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net>
17) Beware CD HQ
by "Jonathan Byrne" <RRI02@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:22:01 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/21/96 - 22:21:16" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199603212222.OAA15768@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 22:21:53 GMT on 21 Mar 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:48:02 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FAQ
Message-ID: <960321174801_451729484@emout10.mail.aol.com>
Could someone point me in the direction of the FAQ? I must have it, and I
have already deleted the subscription message.
Brian, The Damn Tye-Dyer Maker's Eve!
PS Anyone have anything to add to my sig before I get rid of it? After all,
it is getting old.
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:55:50 -0600 (CST)
From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: We're there...
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960321165438.25347A-100000@indy27.gclab.missouri.edu>
Kurt wrote:
>hey..ive been to the irc channel every night for some time and like
>since last week its been empty..whats wrong?!..sometimes not even Skadz
>is there..
Kurt: We're there, we just all hide when you get on. ;)
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 23:54:27 +0000 (GMT)
From: Jeremy Longley <jcl1008@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1361
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960321235314.1515C-100000@puce.csi.cam.ac.uk>
>Darren wrote:
>> Okay gang, it seems as though I'm the only Ytsejammer in England on the
>> list.
>
>Not by a long shot! There are/were a good few in England and the rest of the
>UK. But I suspect that many of them didn't resubscribe to the new "ax" list
>after the "arastar" ytsejam went off the air, as they haven't posted since
>the changeover. Jezza and Patricia spring to mind, and a couple of
>others . . .
>
>Graham B.
I'm still here (for a few months anyway!), but I've been lurking mainly
due to severe lack of time at the moment (finals approach...)..
Cheerz, Jezza
_ _ jcl1008@ The way your heart sounds makes all
(_)___ ________ _| | cam.ac.uk the difference; it's what decides if
| / -_)_ /_ / _` |_| Jeremy Longley you'll endure the pain we all feel.
_/ \___/__/__\__,_(_) Selwyn College The way your heart beats makes all
|__/ Cambridge The difference in learning to live.
^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~* - Dream Theater.
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:48:09 -0500
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DRen=E9?= Gaudet <jrgaudet@sympatico.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: asdf
Message-ID: <199603212348.SAA07037@smtp1.sympatico.ca>
ytsejam switch ack mode =20
Jean-Ren=E9
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:03:22 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jill M. Lentchner" <jmlentch@mailbox.syr.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dtrib
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960321185920.18748B-100000@forbin.syr.edu>
Hi everyone. We are trying to put together the final list of
people interested in doing the tribute big band. If there is anyone out
there who is not on Devon's list, please email me personaly with your
email and instrument. When this list is complete in the next couple of
days we will then decide on groups and songs. I want to establish who
all is involved before we get any further though. So, if we don't know
about you, fill me in within the next couple of days and we will get the
ball rolling.
Thanks!
Jill
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:09:21 -0800
From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ACoS video
Message-ID: <199603220009.QAA28423@ix16.ix.netcom.com>
ok heres my contribution to this topic: I just personally dont like
the idea of a video too much unless its something REALLY incredible...
ya' see- whenever i watch a video for a song from then on whenever i
hear that song i think of whats happening in the video, not my mind...
we all have our own pictures and interpretations for the song, which is
what makes it so cool... november rain was a good video, but i used to
think of something else when i heard the song... not anymore... acos
is such a legend i think the more we mess with it possible the more
we're killing it... just my thoughts...
~Rip
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:48:44 -0400
From: Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@mailhost.vwc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: college radio
Message-ID: 19484482702756@vwc.edu
Babs wrote:
<< I used to be an advocate of college radio (especially since I work on a
campus) and thoroughly used to enjoy 90.7 out of Genesee Community College
in Batavia (Jaime the Dragon can back me up on this one). They were an
absolute kick ass station. >>
I will definitely agree - I preferred WGCC by a long shot over any of the
other stations when I was living in Rochester. There was a show on a
weekend night called Radio Piracy, later Metal Modulation, that would play
nothing but pure METAL; there was even the occasional Dream Theater thrown
in, usually "PMU" from LATM. I'm really sorry to hear they've gone
alternative. While I happen to like some alternative music, there are
already enough stations playing it - when I was last in town, in June, the
station behind WCMF, Rock-It (I forgot the call numbers) was totally
alternative. Variety is the spice of life, donchaknow. (They obviously don't.)
I don't even listen to the radio here at all, except for my alarm clock, and
I'm not coherent enough in the morning to care what's on. <G> Our college
station is pretty worthless at the moment as well, seeing as most people
can't even get the signal *on campus*! :}
Jaime the Dragon
"your vulture's candor
your casual slander
you murder his memory..."
Natalie Merchant - "River"
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:16:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Cynic plays w/ DT on Rush tribute!!
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603211642.A14267-0100000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
On Thu, 21 Mar 1996 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> >exactly is going on with my solo disc. As most of you know, I signed a
> >deal with AudioImage records. This message is to let you know that it is
> >nearing completion, and that it is called CORTLANDT. (From the novel The
> >Fountainhead by Ayn Rand).
I just read that book over winter break. What the hell is "Cortlandt?"
Is that one of the buildings that Roark designed and which got torn down?
> >
> >Players are:
> >
> >Sean Reinert: Drums
> >Bob Bunin: Guitar
> >Geoff Caputo: Guitar
> >Reeves Gabrels: Guitar
> >Trey Gunn: Warr Guitar
> >
> >The music is all instrumental, mainly jazz-fusion. I am hoping to
> >complete it within 6 weeks or so, with a release by late spring. At the
> >bottom of this note is the address to which you can write for more
> >information. Soon I will have the PO box set up here in Florida, to
> >answer your mail directly.
Man, I can't wait till this one comes out. I have two albums that
Reinert played on ("Human" by Death and "Focus" by Cynic) and judging by
the direction that Reinert was heading in on the Cynic CD, he should be
ready to just tear shit up on the drums in this CD. That dude is one of the
smoothest-sounding and precise drummers I've ever heard. Couple that
with his raw speed and polyrhythmic abilities and you've got a master!!!
All-instrumental, yessssss!
This CD should kick ass!!!!
> >
> >Last, but not least, I would like to sincerely thank you all for your
> >interest, and look forward to having you hear the new record.
> >
> >By the way, be on the lookout for the new Rush tribute disc. Reinert and
> >I played "Red Barchetta" with the guys in Dream Theater.
Wow!!! Portnoy and Reinert on the same CD?!?!?!?!?
Sorry for the lack of DTC, all, but the last time I got this excited
about a release was ACoS, and the only people who I know would even give a
shit about this kind of music are right here on this list.
Later, all!!
Younis Hilal
P.S. Could someone e-mail me back and let me know what's the deal with
Cynic, or Portal or whatever they're calling themselves since the breakup?
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:55:14 -0800
From: bosox1@ix.netcom.com (Craig Francis Moran)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Carpe Diem
Message-ID: <199603220155.RAA07382@ix10.ix.netcom.com>
What is this "Carpe Diem" thing that people are sending money to?
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 21:01:08 -0700 (MST)
From: YAP <auhcy@asu.edu>
To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: questions
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960321205941.5518B-100000@email1.asu.edu>
Have anyone ordered from Timothy Lodge about the DT demos and Rising
Power? I am thinking about ordering from him and would like to know if
anyone knows him. Thanks!
Hui-Chi
auhcy@asu.edu
http://www.public.asu.edu/~auhcy
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 21:01:53 -0700 (MST)
From: "Devil's Plaything" <papined@pr.erau.edu>
To: Ytsejam List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ACoS Video, Braveheart, X-mas dubs
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960321205441.22894B@moon.pr.erau.edu>
<><><><><><><> "Stop your grinnin', and drop your linen!" <><><><><><><>
Hey there, everyone. Got a few things
!) Ive seen a bunch of talk about DT doing an ACoS video. Well, I just
got finished watching Braveheart for the second time and I'm currently
crying like a baby. I have no idea why, but I'm feeling like my entire
family just died. Strange, hhuh? Anyway, Braveheart captures a whole
theme of Carpe Diem, basically the theme of ACoS. If they did a video,
they could grab some ideas from that film. definately gove some emotions
to it all.
PITCH - If you haven't seen BH yet ==> What the fuck are you doing still
reading this...SEE IT!!!
OK...moving on...
@) I'm kinda slow on the horse because I never thought of it till last
week, but Ive seen talk of it before.
Regarding any of the DT shows this past X-mas, does anyone have good
copies of the show to dub for trade, cash, favours? Let me know, please!
Thats all...
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
<><><><><><><><><><><><> THE DEVIL'S PLAYTHING ><><><><><><><><><><><><>
<><><><><><><><> David Papineau - papined@pr.erau.edu <><><><><><><><><>
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
We look before and after, and pine for what is not
Our sincerest laughter with some pain is fraught
Our sweetest songs are those that tell our saddest thought
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 00:52:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Madrigal Misc. Miasma
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603210245.A23270-0100000@bgnet2.bgsu.edu>
About the Rush tribute CD...
>What other opinions do y'all have out there in Ytse-land? And who else
>might be on the record?
I'd love to see DT do Xanadu, Jacob's Ladder, or Cygnus X-1 AND Cygnus X-1
Book II: Hemispheres back-to-back, that would be absolutely incredible
and a new exercise in self-indulgence!
>To those of you who don't like/get my humor...yep...you guessed it...you're
>an asshole.
I don't like your humor, and I think you're the a$$hole.
>I truely believe that Dream Theater will never get that much air play...
>But I do find it a shame that radio and MTV alike both most likely use
>that formula on what they play or not.
MTV has played long videos by Michael Jackson, "Smooth Criminal", and the
long version of Metallica's "Unforgiven". They've also played "Pull Me
Under", "Take The Time", and "Lie", but not anymore since there is no hard
rock/heavy metal program. I do see your point however.
>Oh yeah I got engaged while I was down there to the most spectacular
>woman in the world so everyone else keep your hands off. She goes to
>Georgetown law
Do you mean that you got engaged to someone you met in Cancun, Gandalf?
Congratulations! Maybe you should give some of your tips to DJ Damon F!
>"I'm just a sole whose intentions are good
> Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood."
Hey Scott, don't you mean "soul"? Or maybe you were a shoe in a previous
life...
>Subject: Mike Bahr's limited CD
>How about letting Jim Colberg get one so he can offer it up? Am I out
>of line here? Just a suggestion.
I would probably be against this. The point of the limited CD is to give
thanks to those people who've supported Mike the whole time, or helped
him in his projects. I would have no problem with setting up a
high-quality tape tree, though.
>Subject: Acos Video
>...and in the end having the father sitting with his son watching a
>breathtaking scene.
I don't know about the rest of you, but Forrest Gump immediately came to
mind: towards the end of the movie, the scenes with Forrest and his son.
>...and i still think the sound is a Tie Fighter (heeh) im watching too
>much Star Wars arent I?
How about instead of a plane crash, there is a TIE Fighter crash?
There's nothing wrong with watching too much Star Wars, you have to
get ready for the next trilogy!
>From what I heard, the 'Jammers were the ones who encouraged the official
>release of ACoS to begin with. I'd say every DT fan should get their own
>concept for the greatest video to be made and see if the 'Jam can strike
>twice at DT and their record company, etc to fund it.
I don't think the record company would finance a video for a twenty-three
minute song that is on an EP with covers. The idea for a home video of the
"Uncovered" show was tossed about before, but nothing ever materialized.
I don't think any record company would finance such a project unless the
artist was of superstar status. I'm not saying DT aren't "superstars",
to us they are, but to their record company and sales-wise, they still a
have a ways to go. Your insight serves you well. Bury your feelings
deep down, Stephen. They do you credit. But they could be made to serve
the Emperor.
>there was talk about who would be touring with megadeth for the next
>cd, I believe someone mentioned DT..come to think of it, that would be a
>very cool show. Dream Theater and Megadeth on tour together. Any thoughts?
No! I can't stand the group of wankers known as Megadeth. I highly doubt I
would go (I'd wait for DT to headline), and even if I did go, I'd leave
as soon as DT was done and the house lights came back on. Before all
you 'Deth fans flame me, remember, this is my opinion.
>acos is such a legend i think the more we mess with it possible the more
>we're killing it... just my thoughts...
I agree with you, Rip, and I don't think it will ever see the light of
day, as I've stated before.
>PITCH - If you haven't seen BH yet ==> What the fuck are you doing still
>reading this...SEE IT!!!
Sorry, I didn't catch Bruce Hornsby (who also went to Berklee) this summer.
Hope everyone who hasn't had their spring break yet has a safe and
relaxing one, I know I will!
Soundcerely,
G. Jack Thetgyi
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G. Jack Thetgyi thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu
"Any movie with wakka-cha-wakka in it is okay by me."
-Tom Servo, Mystery Science Theater 3000 #512: "Mitchell"
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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:11:51 GMT
From: Darren Redick <yusckx@private.nethead.co.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Misunderstandings
Message-ID: <199603220811.IAA28599@nethead.co.uk>
Darren wrote:
>>>Okay gang, it seems as though I'm the only Ytsejammer in England on the
>>>list.
>>Not by a long shot! There are/were a good few in England and the rest of the
UK. But I suspect that many of them didn't resubscribe to the new "ax" list
after the "arastar" ytsejam went off the air, as they haven't posted since
the changeover. Jezza and Patricia spring to mind, and a couple of
others . . .<<
To anyone who misunderstood this post...
What I meant was not that there are no British people on the Ytsejam list,
but on the Dream Theater TRIBUTE list. Musicians who want to lay down some
tracks for this upcoming recording. I know there are quite a few British
Jammers and hope to meet you some day!
-Darren
"And my son's not so bright" -ACOS
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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 12:38:48 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dream n day?
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.3.22.12.38.48.2916992174.266494@bbs.fgallery.com>
Hey dream and day..where are ya...sent ya the money..and some email..you
havent answered...
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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 18:52:54 +100
From: "Siegfried Hanisch" <siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net>
To: "Ytsejam mailing list" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Victor, KM
Message-ID: <199603221753.RAA129257@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net>
Hi!
Anybody else think that "At The End" from Alex Lifeson's album "Victor"
sound like some stuff from Kevin Moore's demo tape?
Greetings # They shoot without shame
Siegfried Hanisch # In the name of a piece of dirt
=====================================# For a change of accent
siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net # Or the colour of your shirt
ssaver@ibm.net (ScreenSaver support) # Better the pride that resides
=====================================# In a citizen of the world
http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8925811/ # Than the pride that divides
PGP public key available # Team OS/2 # When a colourful rag is unfurled RUSH
Support the Blue Ribbon Campaign for Online Free Speech! http://www.eff.org/blueribbon.html
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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 16:49:20 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jonathan Byrne" <RRI02@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>
To: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@AX.COM>
Subject: Beware CD HQ
Message-ID: <199603222154.NAA11521@mindcrime.ax.com>
Sorry to post this almost completely non-DT related thing, but I just wanted
to share my experience so others wouldn't suffer.
There is a new CD club out there called CD Head Quarters, or CD HQ. Their
opening deal sounded good, so I sent in a card from a magazine I picked up
somewhere. That was January 3. Now it's March 22, and after 3 long distance
calls to Indiana, I finally have a resolution. They claim they sent out the
package twice, but neither has reached my house. They also claimed that the
problem dealt with my address, which I know was correct because I checked it
several times. Bottom line: they fucked up (sorry).So how did they resolve the
problem? They just terminated the account, and told me if I move to a NEW
ADDRESS, that I could try to join again!
In contrast, in mid February I re-upped with Columbia House (end result: 14
CDs for about $15 incl. S&H). When I went home for spring break the first
week of March, there they were. No problem.
So, am I saying don't join CD HQ? No. I just wanted to let people know how
they treated me, so they wouldn't end up in the same situation.
For the record, they did have _Awake_ in their magazine ad (in a section called
"Music to be Pierced By"), so there is the DT content!
Sorry about the space. I'll shut up now.
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"You're a sweet talking smiler, Jonathan Byrne
a bonafide beguiler. West Virginia University
A player with a strategy, a mover of the mind. rri02@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
You're a connoisseur of conversation
A soap box serpent speaking with a forked tongue."
-Brett Kull, "The Great Men", echolyn
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