YTSEJAM Digest 1387
Today's Topics:
1) ****IMPORTANT PLEASE READ****
by Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
2) The whole percussion thing...
by "Jonathan J.S. Tischio" <tischio@caip.rutgers.edu>
3) 'thrax
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1385
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
5) You Probably wont believe...
by Dave <buster@ee.net>
6) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/31/96 - 05:27:57" <response@ibmmail.com>
7) pkzip300
by rbarker@epix.net
8) That annoying Ytse-Quote(tm) thing.
by Chad <cak6981@omega.uta.edu>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1386
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
10) Self-Indulgent Giraffes
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
11)
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12) 'thrax
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
13) Al DiMeola Concert
by m_washke@acad.lvc.edu
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1385
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
15) Anthrax
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
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Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:38:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
To: BafuJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ****IMPORTANT PLEASE READ****
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960330223340.26295A-100000@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu>
Dear Jammers,
Hi there! I just got off the phone with Derek Sherinian and he wants to
send a really important message to the Japanese ytsejammers. He said
that he wishes to thank all of you Japanese jammers for voting him Fourth
in the Burrn Magazine Poll.
Derek also says that he and Dream Theater really appreciates everything
that the Ytsejammers have been doing for them over the years and that
they love what we are all doing. Pretty cool!
Anyways, I think that's pretty much it. I'll talk with you guys soon!
Yours,
Jeff =)
<*> Jeff Chew <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> (212) 853-6952 <*>
<*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309 <*>
<*> Lifting Shadows : http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/dreamt.html <*>
"If the song I sing to you could fill your heart with
joy, I'd sing forever" - John Stamos and the Beach Boys, "Forever"
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Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:56:55 -0500
From: "Jonathan J.S. Tischio" <tischio@caip.rutgers.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The whole percussion thing...
Message-ID: <199603310356.WAA07488@zhukov.rutgers.edu>
Well....there seems to be a lot of arguement going into this whole
tuned/not-tuned thing, and I think I have a solution. Here at Rutgers
Univ., where I exist, we tend to lump percussion into two groups:
Melodic and Non-Melodic. I am primarily a timpanist, but I also play
marimba, non-melodic concert percussion, and drumset. Although tuning
is an important factor in playing a drumset or other non melodic
percussion, it just is not approached in the same manner as when
playing timpani. It is the difference between trying to achieve a
louder base tone with weaker partials(like timpani) and having a
fairly evenly balnced set of volumes for the root and partials (like a
cymbal) or a tone lacking almost all of the partials (like a snare)
that really differentiates the type of tuning one wishes to
achieve. This is not to say that pitch is less important (or unimportant)
for non-melodic percussion, it's just different. This is just the way
I look at it.
Jonathan
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Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 23:05:19 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 'thrax Message-ID: <199603310405.XAA11063@kirk.ici.net>
>No no no. Just like everything else that is cool and "in," Scott Ian of >Anthrax started this trend and receives no credit for it. The whole >"Not" thing that Wayne's World stole from Bill & Ted? Anthrax. Shaved >melons? Anthrax. Heavy metal guys with anything resembling short hair? >Anthrax. Heavy metal that's funny and fun to listen to? That brings you >up rather than down? Anthrax. Metal guys in skater gear? Anthrax. >Shall I go on?
Don't forget the "goatee" thang.
Scott Ian is just THE trendsetter, isn't he? :) Pat Sullivan_____psull@ici.net_____________________________________________ "The wide corridor up the center of E Block was floored with linoleum the color of tired old limes, and so what was called the Last Mile at other prisons was called the Green Mile (here) at Cold Mountain" ____________Stephen King - "The Green Mile part 1 - The Two Dead Girls"____
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Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 20:14:10 -0800 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1385 Message-ID: <199603310414.UAA11847@cats.ucsc.edu>
>No no no. Just like everything else that is cool and "in," Scott Ian of >Anthrax started this trend and receives no credit for it. The whole >"Not" thing that Wayne's World stole from Bill & Ted? Anthrax. Shaved >melons? Anthrax. Heavy metal guys with anything resembling short hair? >Anthrax. Heavy metal that's funny and fun to listen to? That brings you >up rather than down? Anthrax. Metal guys in skater gear? Anthrax. >Shall I go on?
Hate to correct your correction, but Saturday Night Live was doing "Not" back in the Dan Akroyd/Jane Curtain days. B & T probably did get it from Anthrax, Tho. I don't claim to know where Anthrax got it from.
>I think that when most of us say "drums" we think of drumset (snare, bass >drum, toms etc.) not percussion. Yes there are tuned percussion >instruments (timpani, marimba) but the 'tuning' of a drumset doesn't >directly affect what key you can play in. Timpani and steel drums >generally have some sustain, drumset drums usually don't >TTFN-Sean
Toms are tuned, or at least "tunable"
>>Since the sound >>produced by a snare drum is very short, it's difficult to really hear a >>definite pitch. > >Play a VERY short note on a piano or a guitar and tell me if you can recognize >it. I can. I don't need time to hear it.
The reason most people can't find the note in a snare hit is that the rattle things add more waves. If you add a few waves on top of one, you get chords. Add more waves, and eventually they start to cancel each other out and combine in weird ways and you get white noise -- no recognizable pitch. Mike's Snare on ACOS has too much pitch, not enough white noise. I agree with that.
>The physics classes I've taken have finally panned out! Sorry man, but that's >not quite right. Amplitude is independent of frequency. Meaning, the harder >you hit a drum, a tuning fork, a guitar string or anything else, the louder >it's going to be, but it's still going to give you the same pitch. It's just >going to be louder. Whack a tuning fork hard and you get whatever pitch it is. >Just tap it and it's the same pitch, just a lot softer. The same holds true >for a drum head.
Nope, Brian's got the physics down. In drums, a weaker hit will result in a lower pitch as well as a lower amplitude, due to the nature of ther instrument. Analog instruments tend to have funny tendencies like that. ;) In fact, the better digital samples of drums can alter their pitch as well as their volume with velocity. Makes for a more realistic drum sound.
Bafu!
>Most definitely not. The very first vocal line, where someone screams >"TRANSFORMEEEEEEERS!!" is way too strong to be Mike Tramp. The sound >overall was way too powerful (like big keys, big electronic crunchiness) >to be White Lion. Sounded more like Geoff Tate singing over ZZ Top. :) > >"Transformers! More than meets the eye! > Autobots wage their battles to destroy the evil forces of... > THE DECEPTICONS!! > Transformers, robots in disguise!!" >
As someone else said, it was Lion, not White Lion who did the TF theme song. I still have it on tape. :) "Instruments of Destruction!" :)
Bafu. Last word, twice in a row. you ARE a god amongst men.
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Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 23:22:13 -0800 From: Dave <buster@ee.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: You Probably wont believe... Message-ID: <315E32A5.F89@ee.net>
I hadn't planned on mentioning this, but since there has been SO much talk about Mr.Big on the Jam lately, I figured what the hell....
I guess it's really no big deal, but it was cool for me...Paul Gilbert and Eric Martin (guitarist and vocals) of Mr.Big actually (gulp..here's the part no one will believe) warmed up for my old band once back in 1989! It wasn't an intentional "warm up", but they ended up going on stage before us at the Troubador in Hollywood. It was my first show in Hollywood, and I was with a band called The Riff. Paul had gotten a few guys together to jam just for fun that night, and they went under some wierd name, but HIS name ended up on the Marquee outside right above ours!(i have a photo of it for proof) I was nervous that night BEFORE I knew he was there, but when I found out they were going on stage right before us I just about fainted. Needless to say they played great, and although we were intimidated we still got a nice reception from the crowd. I've had a few similar "brushes with fame" during my actual 8 years playing professionally. We were even personally invited backstage by Bon Jovi when we were on tour in Argentina! It was their first tour down there (mine too), and they were working through the same production agency as us. Anyway, I'll shut up now....
buster :)
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Date: Sat, 30 Mar 96 23:35:46 PST From: rbarker@epix.net To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: pkzip300 Message-ID: <Chameleon.960330234113.rbarker@.epix.net>
Thanks for the warning on pkzip300. It is nice to know that there is people out there you can depend on for help. Since I have joined the jam I have found everyone to be most helpful. I really enjoy my times on Irc and thought that I would make a post thanking everyone for their genorous hospitality. Plan on being here a long time!!! Also, E-man, can you mail me the number of that Manny's music you were telling me about? The store that I ordered the John Petrucci instructional video from told me that it was temporarily out of print. I think I should just order it from Manny's like you told me to. Thanks!! Robert Barker(Ibanez) ------------------------------------- Name: Barker E-mail: rbarker@epix.net Date: 3/30/96 Time: 11:35:46 PM -------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:44:18 -0600 (CST) From: Chad <cak6981@omega.uta.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: That annoying Ytse-Quote(tm) thing. Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960330223243.29961B-100000@omega.uta.edu>
A few days ago, in a 'jam far, far away...
> >By the way.....bow down to the newest Ytse-Quote (tm) champion. :-) > > Ben, I hate to split hairs with you, but we really can't call a winner... > A.) I admit you won last night: > a.) I had a five minute lag on that last Q, and got a ping timeout, > but: > b.) I didn't know the answer anyway, so congrats. > B.) I still have more cumulative points than you, however: > a.) There were 18 Qs on Thurs., and only 5 last night, > b.) I have played twice, you only once, > c.) There is no real organization.... whoever's there plays... > > So basically, I won fair and square Thurs, Ben did so on Fri. There is > no overall champion. Now, on to other stuff...
Ah...here is where the problem arises (Referring to Sec. B, pts. a, b, and c). If anyone would like to see Ytse-Quote(tm) actually develop into more than just a cute little activity to pass the time on IRC, I need some feedback. Right now, my grandiose plan includes a large-scale tournament, with prizes awarded to the winner(s). Unfortunately, no one seems to understand that we can't just up and do it one day.
If you would like to play Ytse-Quote(tm), or you've got no idea what the FUCK we're talking about, e-mail me. If you want to know the rules, I'll help. If you don't know how to access IRC, I'll help. If you have a flat tire, I'll...never mind.
If this is to materialize, I'm gonna need some feedback. Let me know what would be good days and times for you to be on the channel, and we'll do whatever else we need to.
Chad (Raytheon) raytheon@dreamt.org Ytse-Quote(tm) originator
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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 00:13:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1386 Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603310045.C7917-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> > Subject: Various vicariances..... > > 1) Showing my ignorance: > What exactly is a soundboard (and keep it as non-technical as > possible or you'll see this question again next week)?
Well, there are two definitions. The first definition of soundboard is the big thing with knobs and sliders and such that the soundguy uses to mix the levels and effects of all the inputs. Inputs refers to all the things that are miked or lined into the board - voices, drums, etc...
The other definition is a bootleg recording that was recorded by running a cable from the line out jack of the board to a line in jack on a tape recorder.
I bring this up, because you didn't really make it clear which one you want defined. Let us know, and let's see if we can agree on an answer.
> 5) "Hail to the victors....!" University of Michigan: 1996 NCAA Hockey > Champions!
Oh, go fuck yourself. :) UVM would have made it to the finals where they would have crushed your little Wolverines, if they hadn't been robbed by the officials in the semi game against Colorado. You tell me the last time you saw a semi-final hockey game played on melting ice through 2 overtimes, that ended in a goal scored off somebody's glove. Yet I digress. :)
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Damn!
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Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 23:30:45 -0700 From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Self-Indulgent Giraffes Message-ID: <199603310630.XAA21056@maple.enet.net>
>I know he plays the By Demons Be Driven DRUM PART! I was just talking about >the guitar and bass riff FROM THAT SONG that he played along with...you >probably just read my post wrong.
I actually knew what you meant...I just wanted to use "giraffe" and "masturbating" in the same sentence. :-)
The sample he played with was a drum >trigger. And as far as the Metropolis and Learning to Live sequences >go...they are 5:05-5:16 and 5:30-6:26 respectively...although I must correct >myself on what they are...Metropolis is a double part between hi-hat and >timbale...whereas in Learning To Live, there is a double track with toms >(him on the kit) and a cylindrical shaker which I can't remember the name of >at this moment. Anyways...the drumming is still cool as hell!
OH! I never noticed the hi-hat under the timbale part...actually, I probably did, just didn't register it in my mind as something to think about. And on LtL, that doesn't count in my book...James could be doing it. :-)
Mistaken DT lyrics:
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>P.S. I see Barney Greenway of Napalm Death in the special thanks a lot. >Any jammers like 'em? I am a HUGE fan, although I don't think that they >are progressive. >
Barney Greenway.......Barney Greenway......I remember hearing about him recently...I can't remember where it was. Do YOU remember Gabbo? :-)
>So basically, I won fair and square Thurs, Ben did so on Fri. There is >no overall champion. Now, on to other stuff...
Gabbo? Are you really actually MAD that I said that? I hope not....it's a game, man. ;-)
>So are you telling me that everyone gets their anagrams from this website? >You made me sit here and grind anagrams out of my brain, when there was a >machine that could do it for me? Is this site where Ben Laussade gets all >his anagrams? Geez, Ben, why don't you just make a drum track with a >sequencer and tell everyone it's you playing? ;)
Um, Bafu? When I said "courtesy the Main Sanitary Nag" I was giving credit to the Main Sanitary Nag for those anagrams. Did I say anywhere that I made them up? NO! Would I mention the Main Sanitary Nag if I DID make them up? NO! Why, if you don't stop bothering me, I'll.....I'll.....I'll HURT your FEELINGS!
(required smiley) :-)
So, who has seen the Prophecy? Isn't that the greatest movie?!
"All those nights I heard you praying...then you'd jump in bed as fast as you can because you thought I was under there.....well, I was"
Satan, from The Prophecy
"Hi!" Christopher Walken, from The Prophecy
"AGHGHHAAAAAAAGHHHHHHH!!!!!!" Dying Guy, from The Prophecy
Yeah...if you've seen it, in the Satan scene...doesn't Lucifer look just like all the pictures of Jesus you've ever seen?!
>I wasn't goin after John M's speed in DT at all, this little >piece came about due to the 3 fingers comments etc...I need to >listen to Metrolopis again but you can play any guitar or bass >part with or without a pick, if you say you can't, thats bull >and your placing limits on the "ability" of that instrument and >the player as well by saying that statement. Hell, with a little >bit of practice, I could play that part with a pick and behind >my back. >
Hey.....I didn't say they couldn't do it. I just said I'd like to see them try. That'd be cool....yeah....huh huh. :-) :-)
>If that's not possible, how about incorporating content markers in the >Subject >fields again? For example, if you have a post about DT, you would put (DTC) >after your >Subject field. It would look something like this: > Subject: Myung plays bass with his toes (DTC) >If your post isn't about DT, it may look something like this: > Subject: Weird dream about Nirvana, Poison, White Lion, Mr. Big, >Winger, > and Slaughter in ER (NDTC)
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Heehee!!!!!!!
>Please define "giraffe-masturbation," oh Master Of Visual Music.
/me gets out the Ytse-Dictionary...into which I've been putting various terms in lately. Might have witnessed it if you were ever on IRC.
giraffe-masturbation (verb): (1)A vigorous up and down stroking motion with the hand. Resembles the masturbation of a giraffe. (2) See "Ytsejammer Hobbies"
Whew.....I don't post too much. It's just that my posts are 3 pages long. :-)
Ben Laussade
Favorite Song of the Week: Island in the Stream
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Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:35:06 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: 'thrax Message-ID: <199603310335.WAA09930@kirk.ici.net>
>No no no. Just like everything else that is cool and "in," Scott Ian of >Anthrax started this trend and receives no credit for it. The whole >"Not" thing that Wayne's World stole from Bill & Ted? Anthrax. Shaved >melons? Anthrax. Heavy metal guys with anything resembling short hair? >Anthrax. Heavy metal that's funny and fun to listen to? That brings you >up rather than down? Anthrax. Metal guys in skater gear? Anthrax. >Shall I go on?
Don't forget the "goatee" thang.
Scott Ian is just THE trendsetter, isn't he? :) Pat Sullivan_____psull@ici.net_____________________________________________ "The wide corridor up the center of E Block was floored with linoleum the color of tired old limes, and so what was called the Last Mile at other prisons was called the Green Mile (here) at Cold Mountain" ____________Stephen King - "The Green Mile part 1 - The Two Dead Girls"____
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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 00:27:59 -0800 From: m_washke@acad.lvc.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Al DiMeola Concert Message-ID: <199603310827.AAA25494@mindcrime.ax.com>
Tonight was the greatest night of my life. I went to see Al DiMeola live at Lehigh University in PA. It was so absolutely cool. If you care to read, continue, but there will be no DT content here. I arrived at about five o'clock for an eight o'clock show because it was general admission and I wanted the best seat in the house. As I'm sitting there enjoying the three hour wait that ensued, a white Jeep Grand Cherokee stopped in the middle of the road in front of the place. My two friends and I were the only ones there at that time. The driver who I couldn't see because I didn't have my glasses on, yelled out, "Who is playing tonight?!" I obviously yelled back "Al DiMeola!" Then the jeep took off and peeled out around the corner. After about an hour after about ten more people were standing in line, this guy came outside to smoke a cigarette, wearing an Al DiMeola Project jacket. I went up to him and asked him if Al had arrived yet, figuring he was on the crew. He said, "Yeah. Weren't you just out here?" "Umhmm," I replied, "I've been out here for a while now." He then said, "you are the one he asked who is playing tonight. He does that before every gig just to see what people say." Of course at that moment I shit myself in disbelief. I said to him, "Thanks man, I appreciate it," and I walked back to my spot in line. As you could have guessed, I was in the front of the line, so when they finally let us in late after numerous monitor problems they were having during soundcheck, I was the first in. (excuse the run on sentences. Its three in the morning.) I got THE BEST SEAT IN THE HOUSE. I was in the front row center, about seven feet away from god, oops, I mean Al. Anyway, when the show started, Al came out, and then the guy who told me about Al in the jeep came out. Obviously, I was very confused. Turns out that the guy I talked to was Gumbi Ortiz, his percussionist. Man, I felt like a dick. Well, no big deal, I was just a few feet away from Al. Holy shit, I came about ten times! After about twenty minutes into the set, he said that he needed another pick, and asked if anyone in the audience wanted the one he was just using. Of course I jumped up and snatched it out of his hand. YES! LIFE IS GOOD! When they had sound problems later in the concert, I told him to just pull the plug and play without it, and he did! Of course the PA let out an astounding bang because of it. He asked if we could hear it, and everyone in the first few rows were screaming, "Sure I can hear it," so he played to us with just the acoustic. It was so fucking cool! When they figured out what the problem was, Al went to start playing, and my friend reminded him that he forgot to plug in after he began to play unsuccessfully. After he ended with Mediterranean Sundance, he signed autographs, and I got my poster signed, and my Orange and Blue and where Have I Known You Before CD covers signed. I then proceeded to wet my pants again! WHAT A NIGHT! If you get the chance to see him- don't miss it. For those of you who do not know who he is, he is the most amazing guitarist on the planet with chops that blow JP out of the water. Don't get me wrong, JP is great, but he even sights him as an influence. If you ever hear him, you'll understand what I mean when I say that there is no one with this man's technical abilities out there. He must be seen.
P.S. Whoever it was arguing about Dave Ellefsen, or whatever his name is from Megacliche, "OPEN YOU EARS!" This man should not be compared to Myung. If you want to talk about talented bassists, maybe a discussion about Clarke, Patitucci, or Manring is in order!
Mike Washkevich
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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 96 3:42:55 EST From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1385 Message-ID: <9603310842.AA15153@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Firstly, I am going to wager that Anthrax got the thole not thing from a Run/DMC song. If anybody ever heard the King of rock, in the beginning of the song, there's this sample of them just saying not. It happens to fall on a drum hit. This is the same Not used in the I am the Man song. If you haven't noticed, the famous Sam Kineson scream is in that song as well as a sample from aMaster Of Puppets from Metalica, and lord knows what else.
BTW, if anybody as that transformers soundtrack, would you consider sending it my way?>
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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 01:07:16 PST From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Anthrax Message-ID: <199603310913.JAA213697@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 03/30/96 7:30pm -0800
-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 19:23:01 -0800 (PST) -From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> -To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> -Subject: Anthrax, White Lion, Physics -Message-ID: -<Pine.A32.3.92a.960330191933.127633I-100000@homer09.u.washingto -n.edu>
-(I'm definitely posting too much.)
I know the feeling
---- > From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> > Subject: Anthrax > > The whole "Not" thing that Wayne's World stole from Bill & Ted? > Anthrax.
-Whoah. Someone else remembers this song.
The whole "not" bit came from Anthrax's EP called pegnikcufecin and there was a song called "I'm The Man" that started out, at least the studio version did, with the drums doin a funky beat and the band yelling "NOT!"...It's a hilarious song and its also to the Jewish tune, Havanageela (I know its misspelled but I'm not Jewish so I really have no clue)
This came out in, 86 I think. I gotta check that but who knows, oh well, little antrax-ology for ya.
Mark
/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/ #For to long now, there've been secrets in my mind. *Waiting for the winter sun #For to long now, there were things I should have said *and the cold light of day #In the darkness, *The misty Ghosts of childhood fears #I was stumblin to find the door *The Pressure is building, I can't stay away #To find A reason, #To find the time, the place, the hour.
^I throw myself into the sea, release the wave let it wash over me. ^To Face the fear I once believed..THE TEARS OF THE DRAGON FOR YOU AND FOR ME.......
New Web site http://140.141.22.35/stranger/stranger.htm /*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/
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