YTSEJAM Digest 1381
Today's Topics:
1) Wah wah.
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
2) CAPITAL LETTERS!
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
3) Snare sound on ACoS...
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
4) My damn dog
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
5) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/29/96 - 19:04:49" <response@ibmmail.com>
6) Re: White Lion
by Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
7) huh?
by kurt@fgallery.com
8) Derek on TV
by kristopher long <long16@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
9) To all those "Make Money Quik" posters
by rtgood@students.wisc.edu (R B Friggin' G)
10) those damn advertisements
by Matt Rosin <msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu>
11) Chain letters
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
12) for those fanatics using Xwindows
by "Chad L. Cook" <ccook@bbn.com>
13) It is completed at last!
by Maraya007@aol.com
14) stuff
by CLIFF & PAM WHEATON <cwheaton@micron.net>
15) Portnoy samples?
by MATTHEW D PASTOR <S_MDPASTOR@vaxa.clarion.edu>
16) Re: Need fast Cash? Here it is!
by Qwertyuio6@aol.com
17) White Lion
by philipon@infobahnos.com (Phil)
18) Fates Warning or Kenny?
by KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
19) Re: Need fast Cash? Here it is!
by "D. Pellor" <dpellor@u.washington.edu>
20) Can you say Cyber-Amway?
by szucseue@saber.udayton.edu
21) Response to Stuff
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
22) Re: Need fast Cash? Here it is!
by seth <saperl@MIT.EDU>
23) Spanish lessons/"Metal" reviews
by KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:53:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
To: DT List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Wah wah.
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603291349.D227654-0100000@acs5.bu.edu>
That fuckin' John Petrucci. He goes and uses a wah wah pedal on
Awake and ACoS. That's soooo self indulgent.
\o/ --==Brian Wherry==-- o
| --==bwherry@acs.bu.edu==-- /|\
/ \ "Do. Or do not. There is no try." -Yoda / \
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:51:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
To: DT List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: CAPITAL LETTERS!
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603291320.C227654-0100000@acs5.bu.edu>
ISN'T POSTING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS REALLY SELF-INDULGENT? IT'S
LIKE MELODIC WRITING, BUT MONOTONE, AND MONOTONOUS, FOR THAT MATTER.
\o/ --==Brian Wherry==-- o
| --==bwherry@acs.bu.edu==-- /|\
/ \ "Do. Or do not. There is no try." -Yoda / \
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:50:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
To: DT List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Snare sound on ACoS...
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603291327.B227654-0100000@acs5.bu.edu>
I'm gonna hafta throw in my spare change (the pan handlers sure
ain't gettin' it....) on this "Mike's snare sound on ACoS" topic. I
thought we kinda finished this thread back in OCfuckin'TOBER, but hey,
let's dig up a corpse! Mike's snare drum sounds like a snare drum.
Period. "It's like he's playing a loud Bbmaj7add#11 every other beat...
It's like a melodic snare.... It's self indulgent on Mike's part...."
Uhhhh, no. Sound travels in waves. Snare sounds, too. Differences in
frequency of these waves produce different pitches. Since the sound
produced by a snare drum is very short, it's difficult to really hear a
definite pitch. So I'd have to disagree with Larry ("the old geezer of
the ytsejam" or whatever) on his belief that the snare "pitch" ruins
everything in ACoS. Larry, if your ears are really that sensitive to
snare drum "pitch," then why don't you hear a change in the pitch when
Mike plays it softer? Weaker snare hit = less of a tension increase in
the drum head = different period of oscillation of the drum head =
different frequecy = different pitch. Or is Mike such a precise machine
that all of his snare hits are a perfect "Bb?" And about the use of that
snare sound being "self indulgent," I just have a few questions for Larry:
1) Did you write that Guitar for the Practicing Musician review of ACoS?
2) Don't you think it's awfully self-indulgent of Mike to have written
the lyrics about his life?
3) Shouldn't he have written them about them about current American
politics or something much "more important?"
4) Isn't just the entire album incredibly self-indulgent? I mean,
they're all playing their instruments!!! They're probably thinking to
themselves, "Hey, check me out!" the whole time! What head-cases!
5) You know that guy who wrote an entire novel without using the letter
e? Isn't that incredibly self-indulgent? He probably records all of his
snare drum sounds without reverb and tuned to a perfect "Bb," too.
Answers?
\o/ --==Brian Wherry==-- o
| --==bwherry@acs.bu.edu==-- /|\
/ \ "Do. Or do not. There is no try." -Yoda / \
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:56:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
To: DT List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: My damn dog
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603291321.E227654-0100000@acs5.bu.edu>
My damn dog started barking along to ACoS today, but he wasn't in
pitch!! Talk about a self indulgent dog! It's a good thing I kicked him
in the head -- that damn off-pitch, self-indulgent barking won't happen
again!
\o/ --==Brian Wherry==-- o
| --==bwherry@acs.bu.edu==-- /|\
/ \ "Do. Or do not. There is no try." -Yoda / \
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:05:31 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/29/96 - 19:04:49" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:22:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: White Lion
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960329142046.16461A-100000@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu>
Dear Jammers,
> To whoever wanted to know. White Lion broke up a few years ago. Mike
> Tramp (the vocalist) is/was in a band call Freak of Nature who have 2
> albums that only available via import. I have no clue how they sound.
Didn't White Lion do the theme song to "Transformers: The Movie"? I
think it sounded really cool.....really 80's but really cool. There's a
wicked guitar solo in it too. Dream Theater should cover that song.
Yours,
Jeff =)
<*> Jeff Chew <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> (212) 853-6952 <*>
<*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309 <*>
<*> Lifting Shadows : http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/dreamt.html <*>
"If the song I sing to you could fill your heart with
joy, I'd sing forever" - John Stamos and the Beach Boys, "Forever"
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:21:18 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: huh?
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.3.29.15.21.18.2916992174.268766@bbs.fgallery.com>
Hey..can anyone explain what you mean by drum triggers ? You know..what
you all say about the I/W snare sound? Also this guy who wrote about
Portnoy's cymbals not sounding so "there" like Lars...hey! ive tought
the same thing over and over! wierd isnt it?
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:40:24 -0500 (EST)
From: kristopher long <long16@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Derek on TV
Message-ID: <199603291940.OAA19611@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
Oh man, i'm leaving for spring break today so that means i'm going to come
back and there's going to be like seven hundred jams to read when i get
back. Anyway, how come no one has said anything about Derek being on TV? I
was watching "Friends" yesterday and all of a sudden i see Chandler's new
roommate and it's like whoah! I'm telling you, that's Derek. Or at least
what he would look like on crack. Too bad they got rid of him. Oh, and
another thing, how many of you have seen "Dead Poets Society"? That part
where Robin Williams is wispering "carpe diem" at them when they're looking
at the old pictures totally freaked me out! It sounded just like the
wispered part in ACOS. Did they sample that or something? Does anybody
know what I'm talking about? Ok, I'm outta here. Peace out, biatch!
"Seize this, honkus!"
-Gregory Hines "History of the World Part 1"
Kris Long
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:49:21 -0600
From: rtgood@students.wisc.edu (R B Friggin' G)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: To all those "Make Money Quik" posters
Message-ID: <199603291949.NAA70304@audumla.students.wisc.edu>
I swear to God, if anyone on the Ytsejam wanted to make money quick, they
WOULD NOT be sitting at their computer reading a Dream Theater mailing list.
I guarentee it!! Leave us alone. You are completely wasting our time, as
a matter - o - fact, I'm wasting mine just because of it. You suck.
_____________________________________________
"Like a scream, but sort of silent, living out my nightmares"
_____________________________________________
name - Ryan T. Good
e-mail - rtgood@students.wisc.edu
phone - 1-(608)-264-2268
what - Madison Student Radio
who - Music Staff (Music Stapher)
which kind - Progressive Rock/Heavy Metal
why - why not?
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:59:01 -0600 (CST)
From: Matt Rosin <msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: those damn advertisements
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960329135749.10919B-100000@tam2000.tamu.edu>
who in the hell is postiong this shit??? at least when people solicit
you on the phone, you can hang up on them and not have to scroll through
all the crap.
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Matt Rosin * - S U R R E A L I T Y -
PO Box 15315 * ethereal/ambient/experimental
College Station, TX * Matt Rosin: vocals/synths/programming/etc.
77841-7315 * http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape
msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu * email: imagescape@tamu.edu
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:06:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Chain letters
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960329150412.9533B-100000@bdmserver>
Ok,
KEEP THE FRIGGIN CHAIN LETTER SCHEMES OFF OF THE JAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KEEP THE FRIGGIN CHAIN LETTER SCHEMES OFF OF THE JAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KEEP THE FRIGGIN CHAIN LETTER SCHEMES OFF OF THE JAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KEEP THE FRIGGIN CHAIN LETTER SCHEMES OFF OF THE JAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KEEP THE FRIGGIN CHAIN LETTER SCHEMES OFF OF THE JAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1. They are illegal
2. They do not work
3. Anyone who involves themself with one is a complete idiot.
4. Anyone who posts this crap to the jam deserves to be shot.
5. If you do post this stuff to the jam, hundreds of people will email
your sysadmin and your account will be deactivated.
**** Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com ****
**** "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater ****
**** "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files ****
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:46:50 -0500 (EST)
From: "Chad L. Cook" <ccook@bbn.com>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: for those fanatics using Xwindows
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.92.960329154535.3394R-100000@achilles.BBN.COM>
Hi folks, I don't know how many of you are using xwindows out there, but I
made a nifty little cursor out of the majesty symbol, I use it to replace
my standard "X" cursor.. if anyone wants it, just email me!
chad
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chad L. Cook BBN Systems and Technologies
System Administrator 10 Moulton St.
ccook@bbn.com Cambridge, MA 02138
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:47:19 -0500
From: Maraya007@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: It is completed at last!
Message-ID: <960329154718_501206234@emout09.mail.aol.com>
Issue 13 of Metropolis Watch is now complete and printed, sitting on my desk
and waiting to be addressed. The first bunch will hopefully be in the big
blue box with the eagle Monday - no mail here on campus on Saturdays,
unfortunately.
It contains DT news as up-to-date as I had it (nothing you guys don't already
know, but not all my subscribers are online, donchaknow ;), live photos,
Hairball's take on the Birch Hill show, and some reviews - Savatage, Gamma
Ray, Blind Guardian, Shadow Gallery... you get the point.
If you're interested (hint, hint), it's only a lousy buck an' a quarter for
the issue - that covers, postage, printing, and stuff like that. This is
entirely nonprofit... You can send it to the address below in the form of
cash (well hidden!!!) or checks in US$, but PLEASE, no money orders - the
campus PO won't cash them, and I haven't seen the inside of a federal PO in
months. Any inquiries should be directed here to my AOL address, not my
school account - you'll get a faster resonse here.
Jaime Kimpton
Virginia Wesleyan College
Box C-274
Norfolk, VA 23502
Jaime the DRAGON
"For you, life is a long trip, terrifying and wonderful.
Birds sing to you at night - The rain and the sun and
the changing seasons are true friends.
Solitude is a hard-won ally, faithful and patient."
Henry Rollins - "I Know You"
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 96 13:59 MST
From: CLIFF & PAM WHEATON <cwheaton@micron.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: stuff
Message-ID: <m0u2lGe-000QXuC@mis01.micron.net>
hi all!
how about doing my anamgram,Bafu? I'm curious!! As to the younger generation
here-these fellas are very intelligent for their ages-it's good to see. We
see alot of illiterite and ill-mannered teens, so it's really refreshing to
be able to know that there are a few out there that aren't.:)
adventures in cabdriving: Just an update to let y'all know that I'm feeling
much better. If you did't know,I was involved in a rearender about a week &
a 1/2 ago. Didn't damage the car, or me, too much. Car's fixed, took about
1/2 an hour, I'm gonna take a bit longer for the muscles to relax-but
getting better.
got my driver back-maybe I'll actually get a real night off now!! Right now,
it's 6 days a week,on call the seventh.UGH!!
anyhow, I think the posts are getting better!! Bafu-as usual, yours are great!!
actually, they're all great!!
uh-oh, I'm awake today-don't know whats gonna happen now-I usually don't
wake up until later!!could be dangerous!!
A good turn done last nite: Popped Awake into my friends player last
nite-she hadn't heard it-& loved it!!YESSSS!! I think I just converted someone!!
anyhow,gotta go. catch you all later!
Keep Rockin'
Pam
___/----^--\____
< /__rockin' cabbie_\o
0 0
TAKING THE ROAD TO ADVENTURE
(Pam) cwheaton@micron.net
(http:/netnow.micron.net/~cwheaton)
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:13:28 -0500 (EST)
From: MATTHEW D PASTOR <S_MDPASTOR@vaxa.clarion.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Portnoy samples?
Message-ID: <960329161328.20a03077@vaxa.clarion.edu>
Jammers,
I was talking to a friend the other day and he said something that
was very interesting. He mentioned to me that he ordered I & W from BMG.
I said "Cool, you'd like that the drummer is excellent." I should mention that
my friend is a drummer and he is pretty good. Anyway, he said back to me:
"Yeah, I've heard the album before. He is a good drummer. He's a really good
drummer even though he samples some of his stuff."
Could this be true? I never heard anyone on the jam mention drum sampling and
even though I son't have a trained ear for that sort of thing, I don't really
hear any instances where he did sampling.
If anyone has any feedback on this, pleae post it. I'm interested in what you
drummers have to say about this.
Thanks,
Matt Pastor
Pittsburgh
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:13:03 -0500
From: Qwertyuio6@aol.com
To: nirvlist@nyx.net
Subject: Re: Need fast Cash? Here it is!
Message-ID: <960329171302_259387175@emout04.mail.aol.com>
thank you for all that facinating information about Nirvana! (sarcasm!)
People! This is really getting old. (after 2 days)Whan I signed up for this
thing I thought that I would learn something besides how to start a flame
war! So could you all please shut up with all this crap and start writing
about Nirvana? (Isn't that the point?)
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:23:58 -0500
From: philipon@infobahnos.com (Phil)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: White Lion
Message-ID: <199603292223.RAA04018@rizzo.infobahnos.com>
- someone once told me the Freak Of Nature sounded like Exodus!!!
also, for those interested, James Lamenzo (WL bassist) played with
Zakk Wylde on Pride and Glory's album and the last time i heard of him, he
was touring with Slash's Snakepit... No news 'bout Greg or Vito, sorry...
****************************************************************************
***********************
"In the darkness, everything becomes clearer than daylight..."
- King Diamond
Phil "Wabbit" Fortier
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:25:02 GMT
From: KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fates Warning or Kenny?
Message-ID: <199603292225.WAA22122@pipe18.h1.usa.pipeline.com>
On Mar 28, 1996 18:52:43, Ben Laussade wrote:
>Ben Laussade
>
>Favorite Song of the Week: Island in the Stream
>
Please, please, please tell me that this is the
Fates Warning song and not, repeat NOT, the
Kenny Rogers/Dolly Parton (or whoever) song
from the seventies. I realize that was "Islands,"
but, with all this retro seventies shit going on with
kids today, (unkind age crack) one never knows.
Oh yeah, NDTC. Shocker.
-- Kevin (kwmadden@usa.pipeline.com) GO PACKERS...GO WINGS!!!------------------------------
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:28:42 -0800 (PST) From: "D. Pellor" <dpellor@u.washington.edu> To: Qwertyuio6@aol.com Cc: nirvlist@nyx.net, ytsejam@ax.com, scheerga@luther.edu, Subject: Re: Need fast Cash? Here it is! Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960329142806.62546E-100000@homer03.u.washington.edu>
Obviously you are confused and dreaming if you think this is actually a list ~ Nirvana. Get real. This is a bitch line!
On Fri, 29 Mar 1996 Qwertyuio6@aol.com wrote:
> thank you for all that facinating information about Nirvana! (sarcasm!) > People! This is really getting old. (after 2 days)Whan I signed up for this > thing I thought that I would learn something besides how to start a flame > war! So could you all please shut up with all this crap and start writing > about Nirvana? (Isn't that the point?) > >
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:35:46 -0500 From: szucseue@saber.udayton.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Can you say Cyber-Amway? Message-ID: <96032917354595@saber.udayton.edu>
Is there any way we can filter that crap out of this digest? it kind of ruins the integrity of it's members, don't you think? If I want money, I'll check the wanted ads, thanks!
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:42:27 -0500 (EST) From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com (Explore The Boundries) Subject: Response to Stuff Message-ID: <199603292242.RAA20156@grex.cyberspace.org>
Hey,
Here's MY responses to some of the things said here:
1. Pyramid Schemes are illegal in most states. The people who first start to send out money, make all the money and as the scheme gets larger, the more people end up losing money.
2. White Lion Rules! Vitto is an idol of mine, one of the players to inspire me to learn the guitar. I loved his use of harmonics.
3. I like the sound of the snare on ACoS.
Ans last, I pose a question:
How many sarcastic responses does it take to become a Ytse-Celebrity?
Jus' Ponderin'
-Koggie -- -.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..
J O H N K O T Z I A N : koggie@cyberspace.org bootlist@cyberspace.org -Trade account
"I want to look at life, in the available light." - Rush "Let the light surround you." - Dream Theater "O.k., light up." - Bob McKenzie
Anybody know who I am? -.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:55:33 EST From: seth <saperl@MIT.EDU> To: "D. Pellor" <dpellor@u.washington.edu> Cc: nirvlist@nyx.net, ytsejam@ax.com, scheerga@luther.edu, Subject: Re: Need fast Cash? Here it is! Message-ID: <9603292255.AA05733@gaston.MIT.EDU>
**DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE**
Let's not start any inter-list fights here. I know many of us are upset about the chain mail thing, but the listadmins for each of the lists should do whatever they see fit to do. It's over, so let's go back to our respective lists - I for one have no reason to get into a war with members of the Nirvana war and I'm sure people on the RATM list don't want to watch us fight.
Let this be the last crosspost, with my apologies.
seth (listadmin, Soundgarden Mailing List)
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 23:00:37 GMT From: KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Spanish lessons/"Metal" reviews Message-ID: <199603292300.XAA25765@pipe18.h1.usa.pipeline.com>
>1) The whole ropas thing is this: Ropas is the Spanish word for >clothes. Ok, as resident degree-holder in Spanish (ha! I remember what happened to the last guy who claimed that...) I think that it should be known that the Spanish word for clothes is "ropa" not ropas. See clothes, like pants, and other fun things like that are collective. It is impossible to say "Donde esta tu ropas?" You could say "Donde estan tus ropas?" because the verb/pronoun/noun all have to agree in gender and in number, but it wouldn't make much sense. You should say "Donde esta tu ropa?" Maybe the Panamanian list member could chime in. Ok, now that I am through with saying elitist, stupid grammar-related things, we can get on with the DT-related material... Oh. There isn't any? Oops. Ok, now for some brief new release reviews! Helloween - The Time of the Oath Typical Helloween. Some fast songs, slow songs, boring songs...quality musicianship, if not standard silly lyrics. I miss Michael Kiske, but I don't mean it in a "Blaze Bayley sucks, bring back Bruce" sort of way. Andi Deris is competent. Markus "big head" is still pretty interesting as a bass player, and Uli, the ex-drummer from Gamma Ray, plays some nice material, too. Better on headphones than out loud. Bruce Dickinson - Skunkworks Naming an album with the word "Skunk" in it is always a dangerous proposition. Fortunately Bruce doesn't put out a sub-standard disc, unlike a certain band from whence he came. If Bruce was the reason you kept liking Maiden, even after you realized people like DT (see! there was DT content!!) could play circles around them, you would probably like this disc. The music isn't as cheesy as Balls to Picasso was, ie no lyrics like "shoot all the clowns, shoot, shoot, shoot" Thank God. His voice has matured (euphemism for lost range, I guess) but this still runs rings around the X-Factor, but then it wasn't intended as a Maiden record. If he wanted to play that type of slop, he would have stayed. Some people have detected a grunge influence at work, but honestly, I don't see it. Worth the 12 bucks, in my opinion. Sepultura - Roots Well. How the once mighty thrashers have fallen. We are starting to hear more and more industrial influence. Plus, an over-abundant reliance on the "tribal drums-in-the-jungle" thing. Once was interest- ing. Twice was ok. Three times (keep counting up to 16...) and it's old. Very old. I guess it's heavy, but so what? Same death grunt/growl singing, which was fine circa "Arise," - a killer thrash album. If you thought "Chaos AD" was a trip down the wrong path, then you will hate this record. If you liked the subtle movement towards industrial screaming, then I recommend this album. It isn't horrible - just too long. Track 16 clocks in at over 12 minutes. AND IT'S JUST DRUMS IN THE JUNGLE!!! No song. Just chirping insects and tribal beating. Overkill - The Killing Kind Somewhere, someone put Overkill on autopilot. Still an outstanding live act, their last three studio efforts have been questionable at best. Traditional Overkill run through the Xerox machine. Not bad. Not great. Overkill. If you have listened to them, then you know what I am saying. If you haven't, may I suggest "Horrorscope" or "The Years of Decay" instead? You wouldn't be missing anything. I promise. P.S. Don't take anything too seriously. -- Kevin (kwmadden@usa.pipeline.com) GO PACKERS...GO WINGS!!!
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