YTSEJAM Digest 1510
Today's Topics:
1) Always Coca-Cola
by "'THE HAND...' R. Ananda" <spod@u.washington.edu>
2) Crack the Potato Bread Nutritional Fact!
by KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1508
by Charles D Harrison <cdh191@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
4) Musta jest missed it (EOJ, that is)
by KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
5) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/01/96 - 22:55:12" <response@ibmmail.com>
6) Why does the world spin as it is?
by "D_TiCian" <s7700020@singnet.com.sg>
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8) Mike Bahr's Next DT CD
by "Ryan Eschauzier '97" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
9) Rapoport's Rule
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
10) Biopneumatic cross pollinated psycholuminaries!
by Chris DiGiuseppe <hed@Aldus.NorthNet.org>
11) queensryche (NDTC)
by jestok@interlog.com (John Estok)
12) Spammer
by Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1503
by adr93001@uconnvm.uconn.edu (Andrew Rittner)
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by mojoman@pointblank.com
15)
by
16) M@kE M0N3Y FAAAAST!@!@!@!@
by kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer)
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1509
by Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org>
18) Alanis
by swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson)
19) Saigon Kick (minimal DT content)
by randrews@post.cis.smu.edu (Robert Paul Andrews)
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Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 14:28:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: "'THE HAND...' R. Ananda" <spod@u.washington.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Always Coca-Cola
Message-ID: <Pine.PTX.3.92a.960501142152.8581A-100000@carson.u.washington.edu>
This is has been bugging me for a long while now, and I JUST
CAN'T STAND IT ANY LONGER!!!
In Erotomania at 3:05-3:23 it sounds like they're playing the
music to a Coca Cola ad. Listen to it and see if you end up
humming "AAllwaays Coooca-cooola." This has been happening
ever since I first heard the damn song.
--Rahul Ananda
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Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 21:36:27 GMT
From: KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Crack the Potato Bread Nutritional Fact!
Message-ID: <199605012136.VAA27959@pipe17.h1.usa.pipeline.com>
1. Alanis - 31 Varieties of Vanilla
I am sorry I ever asked about her! Anyway, I find it rather
"ironic" that many of the pro-Alanis posts really didn't mention
much about the music - just that he/she identified with the
lyrics or admired her sexually liberal views. (IMO, I wouldn't
touch that slime with a ten foot pole - or anything else - YUCK!)
I think it is rather disturbing that some women (not necessarily
YOU!) are so desperate for their story/perspective to be known,
that they would support an artist not based on talent, but on
the message. I guess for the first time in a long time, it's NOT
about music.
2. The Mystical End of Jam Thing
Didn't mean to. Just luck.
3. Musicians as Authorities
To clarify if something was unclear - I was using NKOTB
to illustrate the absurd nature of my comment. Not that
we would actually listen to them. Obviously, there aren't
many "celebrities" posting on the list, but I am sure there
are plenty of comparably talented individuals. My point,
in abstract, stands; Success does not equal worth. If you
think only the best, most talented bands make it, well...
Who cares what book Roseanne is reading? Who cares
what Ozzy's views on "The Love Boat" are? So, if someone
were to decide that Alanis sucks based purely on my opinion,
I would consider that individual to be a moron. I am not implying
any sort of celebrity (far from it, in fact), just the ludicrous
loss of freewill that appears to be inundating society.
My opinions, as always, are mine, and yours are just another
point of view.
4. EOJ? Doubt it. This wasn't long enough!
-- Kevin (kwmadden@usa.pipeline.com) GO PACKERS...GO WINGS!!! - After opening, refrigerate contents in glass or plastic container.------------------------------
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 16:45:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Charles D Harrison <cdh191@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1508 Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605011656.A5783-0100000@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
Speaking of Partha's misheard lyric in Lie, how about this one in Wait for Sleep:
She's been trying to leak again But the feeling is gone And water can't cover her memory...
(= I thought it was funny. It also sounds like he is saying "Laugh so hard you'll pee" in Achilles' Last Stand. Sorry for the urine references.
Charlie (The Ytse-Rook)
YKYADTF...When you try to convert random women by telling them that the lead singer of your favorite band (JL) is really Fabio
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Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 21:50:21 GMT From: KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Musta jest missed it (EOJ, that is) Message-ID: <199605012150.VAA29394@pipe17.h1.usa.pipeline.com>
I know that one should never post a message shorter than his .sig, so I plan to delete my modest .sig. Kevin
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Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 17:53:48 EDT From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/01/96 - 22:55:12" <response@ibmmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mail Item Format Warning Message-ID: <199605012153.OAA09882@mindcrime.ax.com>
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 05:56:21 +0800 From: "D_TiCian" <s7700020@singnet.com.sg> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Why does the world spin as it is? Message-ID: <199605012154.FAA05944@orchid.singnet.com.sg>
So I am sitting here at 540am (8+GMT) after being kick and banned by Gabbo. Obviously, he hates me for me playing Superior's "Why?" over and over again on dreamt 2112. But it rules!
Anyway, be excited that Bernd just sent the CDs. It took a month and some weeks for it to get here. And after that long wait, you start playing it and all yer friends want it. Than, they realise that you can only get if u order it from Bernd himself or go to Superior's hometown and look for it in stores there. And than you realise that you and your friend's Behind CD is probably the only two in your country. Huh, huh, this is really cool.
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Than, there's a matter of Trey Allen's Ytse-Tees, which took a month and 20 days to ship. And you again realise that these 3 tees are also probably the only ones in your country. But then.. Hmm.
GABBO!!! I think you should have a The Ytse Jam clip in your next round of add-ons. Since you know, the list is called ytsejam. Maybe tt wierd interlude(?) part before the drum solo.
So how's tt?
"Close my eyes!!!!!!!" ===================================================== D_TiCian = dtc = Freaky s7700020@singnet.com.sg http://www.singnet.com.sg/~s7700020
"Young enough not to care too much, about the way things used to be... I'm old enough not to care too much, about what you think of me..." -rush
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Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:32:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ryan Eschauzier '97" <rdesc@conncoll.edu> To: RESPONSE at IBMAIL <ytsejam@ax.com> Cc: durnik@indirect.com Subject: Mike Bahr's Next DT CD Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605011809.B29115-0100000@dsys.cc.conncoll.edu>
Putting a lot of the Birch Hill show on Mike's cd is a great idea. My vote especially goes to the medley and Scarred. I would love to see Innocence Faded from the first CT show on there. Innocence Faded is one of my favorite DT songs, It would be great to have it live on cd.
Ryan * 2 1 1 2 * 2 1 1 2 * 2 1 1 2 * |%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^| |+-="For once, I'll fight for what I believe in."+-= | "You'll stand alone against everybody for the first time in your life?" ____________"Yes, for the first time in my life!"___________ ---------------------------------------- rdesc@conncoll.edu Ryan Eschauzier '97 (860) 439-4085 Connecticut College
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Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:35:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Rapoport's Rule Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960501182400.5274E-100000@gorf.rs.itd.umich.edu>
In Evolution, a simple little idea that says theat climates are more variable at higher latitude (the farther north or south you go from the equator, up to a certain point, of course).....Why? A CHANGE OF SEASONS, of course............and that's what I wrote on my evolution Exam.....
It's there, immortalized in erasable ink........ Partha Mukhopadhyay
oh yeah, the heaviest DT song, for me, is CIAW.......JP goes out of his f'in mind on that puppy..... And oh yeah, part 2: How's this for an April Fools thing that's a month too late? ANNOUCING THE YTSEJAM SWEATPANTS SALE: 100% COTTON, ALL BLACK, WITH THE MAJESTY LOGO PROMINENTLY DISPLAYED (like, across the ass where it resembles nothing so much as a big target......) :-)
and oh yeah part 3: Finally, I'm done with school, junior year in the books! HELL YEAH, one more to go! (and then on to grad or med school) here's sympathies to those with a few days left to go in this semester, and sincere condolences to those with a few YEARS to go.... and to Ben and Rip and Kurt and Robb and Adam and Dan (damn, I know we have a few more wee jammers on here, but I can't remember them all), well what can i say? Carpe Diem I s'pose............ partha
p.s. yeah, I'm listening to ACOS and that sample just came through my earphones ;-)
ps the last Sean Gill: wtf does TTFN stand for?????????????
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Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 16:18:56 -0700 From: Chris DiGiuseppe <hed@Aldus.NorthNet.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Biopneumatic cross pollinated psycholuminaries! Message-ID: <3187F160.10A2@northnet.org>
>Have you heard her song "Head Over Feet"? It is one of the most >beautiful >love songs I have ever heard. That songs happens to my my girlfriends >and >my song, and neither one of us are alternative fans. The tune that would best describe my emotions for my girlfriend would be a tie between Joe Satriani's "Cryin'" or Yngwie Malmsteen's "I'd Die Without You." And she's a Country Music fanatic! (Imagine!) :) -- **********VID SCREEN********** * /\__/\ * * {[[|O O|]]} * * | '' | * * VvvV * * |vv| * * \__/ * ****************************** "Attention All Planets of the Solar Federation, We Have Assumed Control..."
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Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 19:18:24 -0400 From: jestok@interlog.com (John Estok) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: queensryche (NDTC) Message-ID: <199605012317.TAA03705@gold.interlog.com>
I know this thread might be over, but I'm just catching up. Someone said how queensryche's concept albums are O:M, promised land, and perhaps Rage For Order, but nothing else.
This baffles me. What about The Warning?? From the first time I listened to this cd, I assumed it was a concept album. I got the lyrics later, and I still believe it. It is so clear to me I don't understand it. Let me explain,
"The Warning" song is kind of an overview of the apocalypse. The child with the pointing hand seems to me to be some sort of thing found in Revelation. "Enforcer" is about some fighting machine. "Enforcer's taking hold of us." Probably with the opposition, and they are afraid of it. "Deliverance", well, I'm not sure. Kind of like flying over the desert or something, like in Star Wars. "No Sanctuary" expresses the worry in the fighters. They have no sanctuary, no safe place. "You scream but no one listens." Just like in war. "NM 156" shows the technology in the future, the computers. The population termination thingy, it all helps the setting. "Take hold of the flame" is kind of the revolutionary song that the army cries to rally up the troops. "Before the storm" happens the day before Judgement day. "We watch the sun rise, and hope that it won't be our last." "Child of fire" they realize how shitty war is. "The pain, the misery, in us all..." and finally "Road to Madness" is a soldier "standing here, awaiting this grand transition" before his death. He reflects on his life. THen he says, "too late, it's time." This is where he dies. Then the song gets faster, so he is hurtling toward the afterlife. He sings more, ending with, "seeing light at the end of sight reminds me, I've passed away."
To me this makes so much sense. Sorry if you don't like Queensryche. I could have written alot more but a) people probably don't care, and b) I don't have the lyrics with me.
Then again, this is coming from the same person who thinks "The Mirror" is about a drug dealer!! (And I can defend that!)
Michelob
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Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 20:08:39 -0300 From: Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org> To: Ytsejam ML <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Spammer Message-ID: <3187EEF7.5430@dreamt.org>
Hey, i came across this on a Usenet newsgroup and thought you might be interested...
<--------------- Begin UseNet Post --------------->
On 1 May 1996 00:37:45 -0400, killputty@aol.com (Kill Putty) wrote:
>meowmix@purrina.com (GarfieldKitty) wrote: >>AOL is now verifying billing information before allowing potential >>users access, so fake accounts are no longer possible, so I was told >>by an AOL staffer and long-time friend. >Actually, this is not true, they have done that but people have been >surviving on loopholes in the verification system.
"Krazy Kevin" Lipshitz has been spamming mailing lists with a magazine sales pitch, using a whole series of throwaway AOL accounts. AOL knows about this -- but as soon as one account is cancelled, another springs up to take its place. The beagles mailing list to which I subscribe has been hit five times in four days with the same spew.
So apparently you can still run fake accounts by AOL, at least for a while -- long enough for "Krazy Kevin," anyhow.
(If you get any of these on mailing lists to which you subscribe, forward them, with all headers, to atropos@aol.net or, between May 3 and 14, to djackson@aol.net, because David O'Donnell will be gone during that time and wants these things turned over to AOL security.)
Mimi
http://www.hooked.net/users/njkahn/
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Later, -DMC-
--
Daniel McCormack dmc@dreamt.org or emc@caribe.net http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/dan.html
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-" - General John Sedgewick, Union Commander in the Civil War, speaking his last words.
"Whad'ya mean I ain't kind? Just not your kind." - Megadeth, Peace Sells...But Who's Buying? _____ _____ _____ __/ /\_______/ /\___________/ /\______________ / /____ __ /__ __ __ ____ _/_ ___ __ ___ /\ / __// / // __// /_// | / / / / / // / / / / / /_// / //__ @ /_// /_ /__/|/ / / /. /__// /__/ / / /___________________________________________ / __/ / dmc \___________________________________________\ \_/ /\_\/ 1996 \_____/ / \____\/
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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:22:33 From: adr93001@uconnvm.uconn.edu (Andrew Rittner) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1503 Message-ID: <yam6694.14021665.19414600@uconnvm.uconn.edu>
On 30-Apr-96, ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> > Make sure you use a polyurethane based clear satin laquer. > About 3-5 coats should do it. > Robert Barker(Ibanez)
Be careful with this! I've done a lot of woodworking, and it's been my experience that polyeurethane can "melt" oil-based paint markers. Whenever I do a piece of work that has oil-based, metalic paint on it, I always use a polyacrylic. It isn't oil-based, so it won't mix with the paint, and seals just as well. Again, like Ibanez said, 3-5 coats is good. Better safe than VERY sorry. Also, if you're going to do it, laquer the front (obviously) and the back of the guitar. It you only do the front, when the stuff dries it could warp the instrument. This could pose a problem. Of course, if you're just going to cover the area he signed, don't worry about it.
Andrew Rittner
adr93001@UConnVM.UConn.Edu http://www.ucc.uconn.edu/~adr93001
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Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 20:49:30 -0500 From: mojoman@pointblank.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.5.1.-12.49.30.2377490627.1301113@pointblank.com>
Guys, Gals, and YtseJammers;
Make a note, adjust your records, and run for cover....
MojoMan's address is changing...(well sort of)
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for the next two weeks....my mail from MojoMan@pointblank.com will be autoforwarded....but after that...Im going to switch AF off.....
Thanks for your continued support in the New York Rangers!
M O J O M A N S P E A K S
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Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 17:58:34 +0800 From: kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: M@kE M0N3Y FAAAAST!@!@!@!@ Message-ID: <v01510102adace31dfdc4@[206.14.103.54]>
>Can anybody help me find or tell me where to find DT's Bootleg Subconcious. >Would really appreciate this!!! > >Jim
hee hee, I should have added this guy to my list of jokes : )
Oh, and if you guys want to get into classical music, track down a copy of the Scheherazade, Op. 35. by Rimsky Korsekov...Pretty cool shit.
Hey mike, whats the story on Precious things?
Jon.
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Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 21:23:50 -0300 From: Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1509 Message-ID: <31880096.6F35@dreamt.org>
Hey, what's up. I just read 10 jams... <sigh> That's what you get for forgetting to check your e-mail for one or two days... ;)
> From: Walter S Semerenko <wss88274@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> > Subject: Guitar albums > _Endless Summer II_
> "Low Rider" Hard rock remake of some band (?)
The band is called War, it's from the 70's. Their version of Low Rider is on the Dazed and Confused sounddtrack, in case anyone wants to check it out...
> "Linus and Lucy" Hard-rock version of the Charlie Brown theme song > "Surfdoggin'" Cool, cool country song. If country music was this good, > I would be listening to it.
You forgot "La Rosa Negra." IMHO that is absolutely the best song on the album. Gary Hoey Rocks! This sounds kind of like it could be a Santana cover (it's got timbales, congas, etc.) Can anyone tell me if it is or not? I like Santana but I don't have any of his/their CDs so I really don't know.
Later, -DMC-
--
Daniel McCormack dmc@dreamt.org or emc@caribe.net http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/dan.html
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-" - General John Sedgewick, Union Commander in the Civil War, speaking his last words.
"Whad'ya mean I ain't kind? Just not your kind." - Megadeth, Peace Sells...But Who's Buying? _____ _____ _____ __/ /\_______/ /\___________/ /\______________ / /____ __ /__ __ __ ____ _/_ ___ __ ___ /\ / __// / // __// /_// | / / / / / // / / / / / /_// / //__ @ /_// /_ /__/|/ / / /. /__// /__/ / / /___________________________________________ / __/ / dmc \___________________________________________\ \_/ /\_\/ 1996 \_____/ / \____\/
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Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 19:55:50 -0600 From: swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Alanis Message-ID: <199605020155.TAA02952@henge.com>
I, personally think Alanisis great because the music is so honest. She conveys genuine emotion, and sometimes I don't even feel the same emotion she's singing about. Then I analyze what I felt and find that it applies to the song even better than I thought. The emotions are crisp, and her voice just makes it better. Sorry if you don't see it my way. I just love honest music. By the way, DT is far more honest in my opinion. If you can see the complexity of their songs, you find that there are textures deep within the music that make it easier to see the layers inside yourself, and that makes it easier to express yourself. Every time I listen to DT I hear something new. How the chords interact, how the song changes feels, etc. I can never hear it all at once, and hope that I never will.
Later, Cory
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Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 21:06:23 -0600 (CDT) From: randrews@post.cis.smu.edu (Robert Paul Andrews) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Saigon Kick (minimal DT content) Message-ID: <m0uEnmi-000FkxC@post.cis.smu.edu>
Well I have successfully converted my best friend to a Saigon Kick lover. He is now determined to buy all four albums. He bought 2 as of now. And I have converted him to love Extreme. He loves 3 sides. Now, I am slowly working on his DT appreciation. I bought the LIT vid and I watch it a lot. He is starting to grow more appreciation for it. With some more time, he will love it ;) Just goes to show that you will find all you need in your mind if you take the time. Rob randrews@post.smu.edu
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