YTSEJAM Digest 1522
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/05/96 - 19:02:28" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) Spammers and Stuff ...
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
3) screen savers
by rachel <redrach@earthlink.net>
4) Red Sector A
by Aladdin <jc309@columbia.edu>
5) Spams and Stuph
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
6) Bass Combos
by napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
7) Disillusioned Ytsejam Potentials
by Scott Daugherty <SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
8) Metropolis - part III
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
9)
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
10) Mike B.'s secret newz :)
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
11) Re: hi
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1520
by blane@nla.gov.au
13) Metallica
by Ryan J Benedict <rbenedic@gac.edu>
14) Help!!!
by bosox1@ix.netcom.com (Craig Moran)
15) Re: Mike in OZ
by blane@nla.gov.au
16) Tour, Sega: just say no!, Stupid teenager I was, The Scorp's...
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
17) That cool DT stuff I found!!!!!!!!!!
by JamesArin@aol.com
18) webpage
by John Shaft <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
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Date: Sun, 05 May 1996 14:01:02 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/05/96 - 19:02:28" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199605051800.LAA23387@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 18:00:29 GMT on 05 May 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped.
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Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 14:19:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Spammers and Stuff ...
Message-ID: <199605051819.OAA29115@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hey all ....
Hopefully we have gotten rid of the stupid magazine spam.
The only thing is that long posts, like the length of the magazine
shit will no longer make it on to the jam. I know Mike Bahr has
basically stopped sending updates to the list which should be fine,
but if you are working on something that seems like it is gonna be
real long, split it up :)
Later
Skadz
-- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | Ryan P Skadberg skadz@mindstorm.com | | s y s t e m . a d m i n i s t r a t o r / w e b . d e v e l o p e r | | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz/ http://www.dreamt.org/ | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ \ "And every prayer we pray at night has somehow lost its meaning" / \ "Dead Winter Dead" - Savatage / +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+------------------------------
Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 11:29:15 -0700 (PDT) From: rachel <redrach@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: screen savers Message-ID: <199605051829.LAA04510@germany.it.earthlink.net>
i was wondering if anybody could tell me if any web sites have dream theater screen savers. thanks rach
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Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 15:00:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Aladdin <jc309@columbia.edu> To: BafuJam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Red Sector A Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.93L.960505145720.29060A-100000@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu>
Dear jammers,
Greetings all! Man, I'm really behind on my jams! But anyways, just wanted to inform you that you guys don't have to worry about the Red Sector A/Lifting Shadows thing at all. The thing is that I'm now working FOR Red Sector A, which means that Lifting Shadows will become part of the Red Sector A Dream Theater page! I already put that up on the news section of Lifting Shadows a little while ago. But, you will see some really cool stuff as soon as we finish up this project, so keep an eye out for the Red Sector A page!
Yours, Jeff =)
P.S. Two more finals to go!!
<*> Jeff Chew <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> jeffc@dreamt.org <*> <*> Columbia University <*> (212) 853-6952 <*> Beeper (917) 712-4828 <*> <*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/dreamt.html <*> "Aladdin! You just won the heart of the princess! What are you gonna do next?" --- Genie, Disney's Aladdin
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Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 16:02:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Spams and Stuph Message-ID: <199605052002.QAA29552@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hey all ....
As I mentioned, probably just a few posts ago, the spams have hopefully been eradicated for the time being. We will try to keep and eye out for em, but hopefully they are gone.
Is someone still mailing people who unsuccessfully try to send mail to subscribe? I feel bad if I am just skipping these and people aren't being told.
As for Iron Maiden and SSOASS, its a good album, not amazing, but good. The stuff since then has been downhill. Its kinda scary listening to the last three albums and literally hearing the same song over and over again. When I saw them a few months ago, I was like "This is <insert song name>, no wait its <insert a different song name>" The songs pretty much sound the same IMHO.
Two CDs. I still keeping thinking about this. I definately feel we don't want a straight double disc. I mean, how many people out there are in school or whatever and basically all money goes to important things like food and alcohol? If I was still in school, I probably would not have been able to afford $30+ for a CD, but would have gone in to debt because it was DT. The GNR 2 discs at once is an idea, but I'm still not sure. I think I would much rather they release a few singles each with an extra two unreleased songs on em.
DT and Rush. Hmmmmm D-Man had an interesting idea. I like it. Let DT play with Rush on the East Coast, so they get the exposure and then let them do a tour on their own with Fates opening or something :) I just hope they play Avalon this time instead of Berklee. I _HATE_ seats at a show.
Last but definately not least ... The Flames. Thanks for stopping. At least we have some decent content on the jam now.
Later Skadz
-- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | Ryan P Skadberg skadz@mindstorm.com | | s y s t e m . a d m i n i s t r a t o r / w e b . d e v e l o p e r | | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz/ http://www.dreamt.org/ | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ \ "And every prayer we pray at night has somehow lost its meaning" / \ "Dead Winter Dead" - Savatage / +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+
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Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 15:18:39 -0500 From: napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bass Combos Message-ID: <v01510102adb2bc9f33bc@[204.71.98.56]>
Hiya, About bass combo amps. Don't buy one. Combo amps are like stock car stereos. They are just not that good. I suggest that you save upa little more money and get a cab/head. They sound soooo much better. I use an Eden Highwayman run into a 4x10 Eden cab and D15T Eden cab-it just shits all over my old peavey combo amp although Peavey's new 4x10's rock the house. Just a little advise-get a used cab/head over a new combo-you'll be glad you did.
Cheers!
napkins@clandjop.com Seth Hatlelid
"I just bought a Bass Masters Magazine and all the articles were about freakin fishing, not one word about Jaco or Myung. What gives!"
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Date: Sun, 05 May 96 16:26:45 EDT From: Scott Daugherty <SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU> To: Barf Puppy on an Acid Bag <YTSEJAM@ax.com> Subject: Disillusioned Ytsejam Potentials Message-ID: <960505.163718.EDT.SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Hey Skadz, I'm still replying to those guys who incorrectly subscribe. In fact, I just sent out a message to the most recent victims.
To the guitar players- I'm kinda interested in getting an Alesis effects unit. Anybody got one? I'd really appreciate any info.
Well, let's see, what else is goin' on? A DT 2-CD set, I don't care. If it comes out I'll buy it. DT touring with rush, I don't care. I'll see both of them anyway. Can you tell that my semester is over and summer has begun? Yipee!
Hasta your mama, Scott Daugherty
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Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 22:23:31 +-200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'The Itchy & Scratchy Jam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Metropolis - part III Message-ID: <01BB3AD8.25137640@ppp132.GlobalXS.nl>
Itchy (me) Said:
>>> /me says : Do we get a double cd with Metropolis - part III ? >>> Bahr> Getting hotter...
Charles A. Bodinger asked:
>> This MAY be a stupid question, but what was Metropolis - Part II?
Well, Jeff Chew said:
> Well, actually I heard from Mike Portnoy and Derek Sherinian that > Metropolis II won't be on the new album. Oh well, who knows? Things > change all the time.
Does that answer your question ? haha!
Hasta Luego... Pasta & Legos,
Itchy - The guaranteed eternal SMART-ASS Mark Bredius, Bredius@GlobalXS.nl - Itchy@dreamt.org
_________________________________________________MARILLION______________ Tell me I'm mad. How should I know ? | Recommended albums:____ Tell me I'm mad. I have been here for so long | \||/____ Help me paint a picture. Then say it's a lie | Made Again / \___ Tell me I'm mad ! You're a fine one to decide | Brave C%` D \__ Marillion - Goodbye to all that / Mad (Brave) | Seasons End ()H( ) _\_ _______________________________________________|____________/ ' / \
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Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 18:02:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu> To: FREE Magazine_Offer! <ytsejam@ax.com> Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960505174711.11739A-100000@indy17.gclab.missouri.edu>
Partha wrote: >D-Man: Funny how your e-mail ID ends w/ "griffin.emba.evm.edu" > Do I detect Gabbo's tentacles spreading out?
Hey! Leave my testicles out of this! I drink Mountain Dew, so they aren't spreading anywhere! :)
>Are you a)more irritated at fools who can't get it right > b) Glad there is an ever-growing interest in DT and in our little > corner of the world? >Me, I take response b) and all is well in my world.......
With the number of these posts that are being sent to the 'jam, there are two very likely possibilities: a) The person sending the message isn't taking the time to read the instructions on how to sign onto the list, and sending the request here, because they didn't bother to read about -request and listproc b) Someone out there has incorrect instructions on their WWW page (or there are incorrect instructions somewhere else).
Everyone here who has a DT, page, please check it and make sure that you're clear about sending mail to ytsejam-request@ax.com
Also, concider not mentioning ytsejam@ax.com . If someone sends a message like "I'm your biggest fan, please add me to the list," listproc will automatically send them a message explaining how to subscribe.
Of course, maybe we're better off w/o these people on the list. :)
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 / | Pat Griffin Reality2 Design | | c675311@showme.missouri.edu c675311@cclabs.missouri.edu | h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
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Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 16:19:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mike B.'s secret newz :) Message-ID: <199605052319.AA19531@crl5.crl.com>
Most likely, it's the news that DT will open for Rush in the fall. :)
As some have said, this will suck, in the sense that we'll only get to see DT for an hour tops, maybe 45 min, and non-Rush fans will have to pay more for a ticket ($30+). It -would- be a good career move, though, especially down here in the South where DT is largely ignored in favor of (blech) country-rock. Gee, more Skynyrd, anyone? <retch>
One thing I've noticed at recent Rush shows: sometimes the opener sounds better than Rush, because their sound guy really pushes the sound up during the headliner's set. If DT can turn in a good performance as an opener -- not an easy task usually -- they should make some fans amongst the Rush faithful, especially if they play more Rush-like songs in their set.
-- +--- Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com http://www.crl.com/~vanyel ---+ | Rush * Robert Jordan * Bonedance * Michael Moorcock * Metallica | | James P. Hogan * Dream Theater * Robert Heinlein * NIN * Dead | | Can Dance * Mercedes Lackey * Mutha's Day Out * Raymond Feist....|
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Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 16:48:21 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com> To: ccook@bbn.com (Chad L. Cook) Cc: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: hi Message-ID: <199605052348.QAA18059@bud.indirect.com>
Hi all! Just wanted to echo this out for everyone, in addition to answering the e-mail message it came with. :)
> Could you run the criterion for getting precious things by me? I seemed > to have missed it somewhere along the lines... what're my odds? heh.. > (nonexistent?) thanks for the info!
Your odds are still perfectly good. :) The print run is going to be no less than 200 at this point, because I had so many people who automatically qualified that 100 would have been unfair to the rest of everyone. Here's how it goes:
You get a copy free if you: * are in the band or with their management * are one of my assistants doing the shipping :) * have done cover art for my CDs.
You get a reservation automatically if: * You have all the Dream Theater CDs I've made so far, or; * You have Cygnus and four out of the five DT CDs. * You have in some way helped me a great deal in the past. (i.e. contributed material for the CDs, got me backstage, etc.)
About 60 more resevations will be left, to be distributed as follows:
10: Completely random. My girlfriend will pick names out of a hat. This will be the last ones to go so that we don't duplicate reservations of people who earned them with the next few criteria: 10: Dream Theater Ultimate Trivia on the Ytsejam list. Coming in 2 weeks. The top 10 at the end of the contest, score-wise, get reservations. 10: The same trivia, except on alt.music.dream-theater, and yes this means that most of you will get 2 chances to try for it. 10: Ytsejam mini-contest. In one paragraph (50 words or less) you have to convince me that you deserve to get that CD. I'll do this in about 2 weeks also. 10: Same thing, again, on the newsgroup instead. 10: To be determined! I don't know WHAT I'll do for the final ten. I'm thinking to, say, give one to the first person who sells their Subconscious CD at the original price to some needy Jammer. :) Or the first person to eat an entire pizza that is covered with whipped cream, strawberry yogurt, and peanut butter. I dunno. :)
Take it easy!! MTFBWY! Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com/mikebahr@dreamt.org
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Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 12:00:16 +0000 From: blane@nla.gov.au To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1520 Message-ID: <199605060207.MAA25186@email.nla.gov.au>
>P.P.S. Random question: Who do you jammers like better: Myung or Les >Claypool? Just curious ;-)! Both play almost completely different styles (techincally and musically), so its hard to compare the 2. Les leads from the front while JM plays the classic role of connecting melody and beat. But JM rules. I'l love to see JM and Billy Sheehan do something together. Their styles are so similar.
Brett
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Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 21:07:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Ryan J Benedict <rbenedic@gac.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Metallica Message-ID: <199605060207.VAA01430@nic.gac.edu>
Jammers,
I am sorry to ask this question if it has already been stated/answered. I was gone for a while and so I am really behind on my Jams (it is amazing how many Jams come in one day now--DAMN!).
I heard that the Metallica release date was in June--is this for sure? I also heard last night the the full date is June 4. Is this true or not?
Thanks, Ryan Benedict
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Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 19:26:45 -0700 From: bosox1@ix.netcom.com (Craig Moran) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Help!!! Message-ID: <199605060226.TAA27032@dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com>
I know that the band Shadow Gallery has been mentioned on numerous occasions and I was always kinda interested but never did anything about it. Well, this weekend, while on a roadtrip, I heard one of their tunes on the radio. Right when I heard it I thought it was cool. Then when they said it was Shadow Gallery I decided I have to hear more. Do they have any domestic releases or are they only available as imports? I'm dying to hear a whole album from these guys. If anyone can help, please e-mail me personally.
thanks
craig
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Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 13:18:10 +0000 From: blane@nla.gov.au To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Mike in OZ Message-ID: <199605060325.NAA44798@email.nla.gov.au>
Thanx for posting the info on MP coming to OZ Evan. If only I had a Ytsejam shirt or hat to the Expo *sigh*. All fellow Aussy and NZL Jammers, we should try and meet up etc on that weekend. We could sit round and rave about DT, prog bands, life, death and university trying to screw me over with big bendy stick.
Brett: Ytse-sick-with-flow-and-giddy-head-etc
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Date: Sun, 5 May 96 20:54:59 PDT From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tour, Sega: just say no!, Stupid teenager I was, The Scorp's... Message-ID: <9605060354.AA23291@tengs1>
> > From: jskewes@why.net (jskewes) > Subject: I have a guess...! > > Mke Bahr wrote: > > > I have a tidbit of news I cannot elaborate on, for I am sworn to > >secrecy (unless someone else spills it) but I can say this: something we > >REALLY want (speaking DT-wise) is going to happen. That's all I can say. > > I'll venture a guess.... > > They'll tour with RUSH this year.... > > Am I right....? > Jason
If this is correct, then I forsee a huge battle over on a.m.r. That could be fun, heh heh heh |^)>
> >From: bert@mail.pananet.com > >Subject: Sega Saturn > > > > Is Necronomicon already out? I can rent a Saturn and dub the > >soundtrack out to DAT, and add the best stuff to Precious Things. > > > Aw c'mon! A *REAL* DT fan would just shell out the bucks for the Sega Saturn > and Necronomicon, just to have the music! ;)
Of course! I urge you all to forego purchasing the Saturn. My company makes the ASIC chip for the Sony Playstation, a competitor. I know the 'jam wants to support a fellow jammer and ensure that I keep my job (and 'net access). Am I right? Anyone? Bueller?
> From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero ) > To: Ytsejam@ax.com > Subject: lep > > >Hey! I'm one of those kids who grew up with Wang Chung and the glam > >bands of the 80's. Def Leppard's "Hysteria" was the first cassette I > >ever bought, and I still have it. > > me too! and so did someone else... man how many other people bought > this as their first cassette?
After Hysteria came out, I was just getting into rock, as pop-music no longer satisfied me (I was in a limbo when rap became popular). So, I went to the music store and saw a few cassettes on the shelf (it was a small store). I saw a Rush album (a guy I knew in high school preached Rush, and I was beginning to become interested) with a naked guy standing on a brain as a cover. "What the hell kind of song titles are those?" I asked myself as I as I looked at another Rush cassette. "Bacchus Plateau?" no thanks. I'll try to find some more recent stuff (I ended up starting my Rush-trek with the just-released HYF- it's still my favorite Rush album). I saw _Hysteria_. Sure, I'd heard of Def Leppard, but I thought only stoners listend to that kind of music. Note: I remember Hysteria being out for a long time before radio picked it up and everyone started buying it, this was the time period. Ah. Look! _Inside Information_ from Foreigner. I'd heard a few singles on the radio and I liked them.
Needless to say, I passed up three great albums to get something that I listened to for a few months and caused my to dislike about every Foreigner song I ever heard later. It wasn't until everyone else jumped on the _Hysteria_ bandwagon that I did, too. ___________
Scorp's: Pure Instinct.
I was sitting in my car listening to the stereo, drinking MDG and catching lung cancer, when I heard the new single on the radio. It sounded good! Maybye I will buy this album (unlike the last one). It was 2 AM and I had 8 beers in me, so I'm not sure about the song title, something like "Love Child" or "Child in Time" (wait, isn't that Deep Purple?). Sounded like the kind of Scorp's I used to love (To Be With You in Heaven, I'm Leaving You, RYLaH, if you understand).
that's all,
Zach
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Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 00:16:54 -0400 From: JamesArin@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com, metropolis@arastar.com, durnik@indirect.com, Subject: That cool DT stuff I found!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <960506001654_485043642@emout16.mail.aol.com>
Hello all,
Everyone who has sent me mail about this gets first picks. I have you all in a file in order of date. Here is the scoop. I called the guy and he gave me a list of what he has left. I haven't gotten prices yet because it was long distance and it was a long list. The prices I paid at the show were resonable. So here is what I think I will do I will keep a running list of who wants what in order of the date it was requested. If it looks like all the items will sell I will put the whole deal on my card and then collect the money from each of you. The problem is this guy has a show to do on 5/11 so if I am going to order the stuff it must be done by 5/9. This means you must get back to me ASAP so I know what I need to order.
THE LIST:
1) 3- AWAKE w/EVE mini disc from JAPAN 2) 2- AWAKE from JAPAN without EVE mini disc 3) 2- TTT promo 4) 4- black & white AWAKE USA promo 5) #?- LIE, TLF, SDV, AD single 6) 2- Silent Man (3 tracks) 7) 4- Silent Man (1 track) single from JAPAN 8) #?- I & W LP from France 9) 1- Afterlife single (remix) 10) 5- I & W LP sealed with British fan club mag inside 11) 20+ 1992 JAPAN tour pass with burning heart & girl pic 12) 20+ 1993 USA tour pass with pic of full band in color
See Ya, Jim
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Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 23:38:14 -0500 (CDT) From: John Shaft <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: webpage Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960505233539.12959A-100000@eehpx43.cen.uiuc.edu>
To anyone who has a link to my dt page, it's gone. I was forced to reformat my hard drive in which i lost everything. I'm planning on re-building it over the summer but it will not be accessible until august. If you want, you can make the link to
http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/polzin/dt/dt.htm
where there is a temporary page explaining the situation. This is where my page will reside when i re-build it. thanks for all the reviews and encouragement. later
Ed
[31m WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/ [34m DT: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/polzin/dt/dt.htm [35mBOOTLEGS: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/polzin/boots/boots.htm [35m------------------------------------------------------------ [31m- Who's the black private dick that's a sex machine with - [31m- all the chicks? - [35m------------------------------------------------------------ [34m- Duct Tape is like The Force: It has a Dark Side, it - [34m- has a light side, and it holds the Universe together. - [35m------------------------------------------------------------ [0m
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