YTSEJAM Digest 1516
Today's Topics:
1) DT IRC
by Vince French <shi@atcon.com>
2) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/03/96 - 17:05:37" <response@ibmmail.com>
3) The Tidbit.
by Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
4) Re: The Tidbit.
by swb2@lehigh.edu (Swarup Bandyopadhyay)
5) Facade release
by steve@kandu.com (Steve Lehrfeld)
6) Marillion's Freaks mailing list
by swb2@lehigh.edu (Swarup Bandyopadhyay)
7) Secret
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
8) Jammers in and around Madison (ndtc)
by rtgood@students.wisc.edu (Ryan T. Good)
9) I have a guess...!
by jskewes@why.net (jskewes)
10) FREE MAGAZINE OFFER!!! ;)
by BigDTFan@aol.com
11) Hmmmm....
by "Jeffrey Hochberg" <jeffrey_hochberg@CCGATEWAY.AMC.EDU>
12) Re: FREE MAGAZINE OFFER!!! ;)
by swb2@lehigh.edu (Swarup Bandyopadhyay)
13) Necronomicon
by "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
14) DT, Accept, Helloween, Savatage, Pink Cream 69
by kingfrog@prolog.net
15) Carpe Diem Update!! (finally)
by v932407@si.hhs.nl
16) lep
by ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 13:00:16 -0300 (ADT)
From: Vince French <shi@atcon.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT IRC
Message-ID: <199605031600.NAA24508@loki.atcon.com>
I've tried many times to get onto the DT Irc and it doesn't seem to
work. Is the address irc.dreamt.org? I don't know why it won't work.
Maybe I had the wrong address?? Can anyone help me out??
__________________________________________________________________
Sensory Haze Inneractive
Software Design
Vince French
Chatham, NB
CANADA
Phone -=> (506) 773-7205
Fax -=> (506) 773-7205
email -=> shi@atcon.com
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Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 12:04:12 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/03/96 - 17:05:37" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 12:28:58 -0500
From: Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
To: Rage Chamber <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The Tidbit.
Message-ID: <v01540b01adafef0e0420@bootp-234-126.bootp.virginia.edu>
Jam 1515:
> From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
> To: ytsejam@ax.com
> Subject: YES! OFF TO DENVER!
>
> I have a tidbit of news I cannot elaborate on, for I am sworn to
> secrecy (unless someone else spills it) but I can say this: something we
> REALLY want (speaking DT-wise) is going to happen. That's all I can say.
YES!!!! Progressive gangsta rap on the new album!! I knew it, I knew it.
Oh, wait, it says "we"... "What you mean 'we,' Kemosabe?"
Well, let's run down the options of what this mysterious event could be.
1. Double CD
2. Show up at YtseCon III
3. Perform at YtseCon III
4. Subscribe to the Jam
5. Rerecord WDADU (w/ Purdell and Baron)
6. Bring back KevMo
or...
7. TOUR WITH RUSH. (my guess)
(after all, Mike did follow up with some more scoop info about Rush's
album, and "Neil doesn't like to tour in the summer")
Taking bets now...
Scott.
Is Right This Time
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Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 12:49:08 EDT
From: swb2@lehigh.edu (Swarup Bandyopadhyay)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: The Tidbit.
Message-ID: <199605031649.MAA124132@ns2-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU>
>
>YES!!!! Progressive gangsta rap on the new album!! I knew it, I knew it.
>
Cool! I could see it now! Dream Theater - "When the East Coast and West
Coast Unite" featuring songs like James LaBrie and Method Man on "Shaolin
Pt.1 (The Rza and the Gza) and John Petrucci and Dr. Dre doing something
reminiscent of how JP and KM did their guitar/keyboard duels of I&W. Ahh yes
what a great album it will be :)
>
>Well, let's run down the options of what this mysterious event could be.
>
>1. Double CD
That would be really cool.
>2. Show up at YtseCon III
>3. Perform at YtseCon III
DAMN!! I can't make it the Con and if this does happen I'll die!!!
>4. Subscribe to the Jam
Hello Mike, John, John, James, and Derek!!!!
>5. Rerecord WDADU (w/ Purdell and Baron)
Awww Yeah!!!!! Imagine hearing LFAGA or TOWHSTS totally remade! But I find
this highly unlikely.
>6. Bring back KevMo
I find this highly unlikely as well.
>
>or...
>
>7. TOUR WITH RUSH. (my guess)
WOO-HAH!!!! This would be freakin' awesome! DT puts a killer 45 minute set
with a total of three songs :) and then Rush does a 2 and a half hour show!!!!
I'd see it again and again and again and again and again....
Jam on!
Later....
/--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
| Swarup Bandyopadhyay | swb2@Lehigh.EDU |
| Lehigh University | http://www.lehigh.edu/~swb2/swb2.html |
| Box A155 | |
| 39 University Dr. | RushU2DreamTheaterMarillionPrimusWu-Tang |
| Bethlehem, PA 18015-3041 | FatesWarningLiveKingCrimsonLedZeppelin |
| (610)758-0385 | StarTrekStarWars |
| | GO METS! GO KNICKS! GO GIANTS! |
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| "Let the fray begin." |
| --Neil Peart of Rush | |
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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 13:02:55 +0000
From: steve@kandu.com (Steve Lehrfeld)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Facade release
Message-ID: <19960503165957848.AAA215@steve.kandu.com>
Just popping my head in to remind you all that the Facade CD, "fade"
is now available. It is progressive in the style of (among others)
DT, FW, Saga, Kansas, Pearl Jam, STP, Queensryche, Rush, Led
Zeppelin, Dokken, and more.
You can order it by sending $8 (+$2 s/h domestic, $3 s/h overseas) to:
DREG Records
1912 Old Stonemill Dr
Cranbury, NJ 08512
orders are shipping within a week of receipt.
thanks for the shameless plug,
-steve
*********************************************************
DREG Records homepage:
http://www.bigbrain.com/dreg/
Facade homepage: (check out the new CD!)
http://www.bigbrain.com/dreg/facade.html
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Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 13:02:43 EDT
From: swb2@lehigh.edu (Swarup Bandyopadhyay)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Marillion's Freaks mailing list
Message-ID: <199605031702.NAA99144@ns2-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU>
Hey all!
How do I subscribe to the Marillion mailing list? I know it's something
like freaks@ax.com or something but I'm not really sure how to subscribe. Is
it similar to the subscription to this list? Anyways, all I have to say is
that I have been listening to them none stop over the past few days. Brave is
fuckin' incredible and I'm just getting into Afraid of Sunlight. I still like
Fish's stuff with them better. Clutching at Straws is my favorite with Fish
and probably over all with Misplaced Childhood running at a very close second.
Oh well.
Jam on!
Later....
/--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
| Swarup Bandyopadhyay | swb2@Lehigh.EDU |
| Lehigh University | http://www.lehigh.edu/~swb2/swb2.html |
| Box A155 | |
| 39 University Dr. | RushU2DreamTheaterMarillionPrimusWu-Tang |
| Bethlehem, PA 18015-3041 | FatesWarningLiveKingCrimsonLedZeppelin |
| (610)758-0385 | StarTrekStarWars |
| | GO METS! GO KNICKS! GO GIANTS! |
|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| "Let the fray begin." |
| --Neil Peart of Rush |
\--------------------------------------------------------------------------/
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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 18:20:33 +0100
From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Secret
Message-ID: <9605031720.AA04805@jason.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Mike Bahr wrote:
> I have a tidbit of news I cannot elaborate on, for I am sworn to
> secrecy (unless someone else spills it) but I can say this: something we
> REALLY want (speaking DT-wise) is going to happen. That's all I can say.
If we guess correctly, do we get Precious Things?
My guesses:
- DT are definitely recording with Peter Collins
- DT will be touring with Rush
- DT will be touring with Superior
- DT will be touring
- DT *are* releasing a 2-CD set
- DT are *not* releasing a 2-CD set
- DT are getting computers and making their way onto the jam
- Iron Maiden, Yes, Rush and Marillion are recording a DT Tribute Album
- John Myung is going to speak
Ummm . . . that's all I can think of for the moment . . .
Graham B.
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| |
| Graham Borland, borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk, http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~borlangw |::
|____________________________________________________________________________|::
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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 12:23:12 -0500
From: rtgood@students.wisc.edu (Ryan T. Good)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jammers in and around Madison (ndtc)
Message-ID: <199605031723.MAA77600@audumla.students.wisc.edu>
Greetings on a fine Friday afternoon!!
After hearing about Test For Echo, I am totally pumped!!! That
rocks my world. I can't wait!
ANYWAY - the intent of this message is to alert all of the
Madisonian Ytsejammers. If you're going to be at the Mifflin St. Block
Party on Saturday or Friday Night, wear some DT articles of clothing, so
possible we'll run into each other. See you this weekend!!!!
P.s. Hey Mr. Bahr.....What's the secred you've been waiting to tell
us about The Boys???
________________________________________________
"Kiss my ass. Kiss his ass. Kiss your ass."
________________________________________________
name - Ryan T. Good
e-mail - rtgood@students.wisc.edu
phone - 1-(608)-264-2268
what - Madison Student Radio
who - Music Staff (Music Stapher)
which kind - Progressive Rock/Heavy Metal
why - why not?
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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 13:44:30 -0500
From: jskewes@why.net (jskewes)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I have a guess...!
Message-ID: <19960503184429674.AAA190@tar87.why.net>
Mke Bahr wrote:
> I have a tidbit of news I cannot elaborate on, for I am sworn to
>secrecy (unless someone else spills it) but I can say this: something we
>REALLY want (speaking DT-wise) is going to happen. That's all I can say.
I'll venture a guess....
They'll tour with RUSH this year....
Am I right....?
Jason
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Jason Skewes * jskewes@why.net * Fort Worth, TX
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Check out my home page: http://www.why.net/users/jskewes/index.html
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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 14:44:49 -0400
From: BigDTFan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FREE MAGAZINE OFFER!!! ;)
Message-ID: <960503144448_483688997@emout09.mail.aol.com>
Scared y'all, didn't I? *evil grin* Gotta milk AOL for all it's worth...
>From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
>Subject: geetar albums
>>Yngwie Malmsteen, "Fire & Ice." (1992) Clearer production and tighter
>>compositions than anything done before this album. Meaning, I advise you
>>to get this one and don't bother with anything done before it. :)
>
>I'd much rather buy Rising Force...
>
I have those two. IMHO, Rising Force is Yngwie at his "tasteful" peak.
Although I do like the heaviness of his more recent efforts. Magnum Opus is
Balls n Chunk city all the way!
>>Dweezil Zappa, "Confessions." (1991) Boy is he underrated. This album
>
I borrowed this from a friend. I'm tempted to tell him I lost it. ;)
SHOOGAGOOGAGUNGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>From: bert@mail.pananet.com
>Subject: Sega Saturn
>
> Is Necronomicon already out? I can rent a Saturn and dub the
>soundtrack out to DAT, and add the best stuff to Precious Things.
>
Aw c'mon! A *REAL* DT fan would just shell out the bucks for the Sega Saturn
and Necronomicon, just to have the music! ;)
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>This is kind of interesting, and entirely useless: Here in the USA, where
>we mangle good English at every chance, it seems that the word 'theatre'
>refers to more `legitimate' (i.e. live) acting, and 'theater' refers to
>movie places.
YKYADTFW: You cringe any time you see the word "theatre" anywhere.
>From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
>Subject: YES! OFF TO DENVER!
>
> Tomorrow (Friday) through midday Sunday I will be in Denver at
>the airport Regency competing in the regional Magic: The Gathering
>tournament.
>
Is anyone interested in a 99.3% complete set of the 3rd Edition Revised M:TG
cards?
>check up with my cat (who's having kittens any minute now) and she'll
>pass your number on to me.
>
Your cat or your girlfriend? That must be one smart cat....
Congratz on the kittens, Mike!
> I have a tidbit of news I cannot elaborate on, for I am sworn to
>secrecy (unless someone else spills it) but I can say this: something we
>REALLY want (speaking DT-wise) is going to happen. That's all I can say.
>
Is that so earth shattering? I REALLY want DT to release a new album (double
or not).
I REALLY want them to tour...
>From: "Damon M. Fibraio"
>Subject: Re: algebra and mary and some DTC
>
>I don't know about you people, but I hated algebra 1 and 2 and vow never to
>take or use it again. Maybe you guys had an easy time with it, but did you
>ever do algebra in braille? No, it's not easy atall and my mind is not
geared
>towards math. I am a musician. All I need to know how to do is count. :)
>
Sounds about as much fun as looking at the Braille edition of Playboy. ;)
Oh, and musicians need to know the alphabet... at least up to "G."
>From: swb2@lehigh.edu (Swarup Bandyopadhyay)
>Subject: Re: NEW RUSH ALBUM!
>> The new Rush album is called "Test For Echo", it is finished, and
>>will be released on August 20, 1996.
>
> I'll be going to India from June 25th to August 11th and look what I
have
>to come back to! ARGH! This will make my stay in India frustrating knowing
>that the new Rush album is coming out!
>
At least on my calendar, August 11th comes before August 20th...
Elliott Kim, BigDTFan@aol.com
The Ytsejammer Formerly Known As ekim01@fiu.edu
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Date: Fri, 03 May 96 13:24:36 EST
From: "Jeffrey Hochberg" <jeffrey_hochberg@CCGATEWAY.AMC.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hmmmm....
Message-ID: <9604038311.AA831155684@CCGATEWAY.AMC.EDU>
Mike Bahr spake thusly:
> I have a tidbit of news I cannot elaborate on, for I am sworn to
> secrecy (unless someone else spills it) but I can say this: something we
> REALLY want (speaking DT-wise) is going to happen. That's all I can say.
and then...
> I just heard!!!
> The new Rush album is called "Test For Echo", it is finished, and
> will be released on August 20, 1996. They will tour in the fall since
> Neil does not like to tour in the summer. They will hit all the stops
> they hit on the Bones tour, and possibly more.
Hmmm.
Not jumping to ANY conclusions,
Jeff jeffrey_hochberg@ccgateway.amc.edu
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Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 15:11:31 EDT
From: swb2@lehigh.edu (Swarup Bandyopadhyay)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: FREE MAGAZINE OFFER!!! ;)
Message-ID: <199605031911.PAA117449@ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU>
>> I'll be going to India from June 25th to August 11th and look what I
>>have to come back to! ARGH! This will make my stay in India frustrating
>>knowing that the new Rush album is coming out!
>>
>At least on my calendar, August 11th comes before August 20th...
>
>Elliott Kim, BigDTFan@aol.com
>The Ytsejammer Formerly Known As ekim01@fiu.edu
>
Well, the rest of my post said that it's gonna be frustrating that I'll have
to wait through the intense heat of the Indian summer to get the album which
comes out 9 days after I get back and a day before I come back to Lehigh.
Later....
/--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
| Swarup Bandyopadhyay | swb2@Lehigh.EDU |
| Lehigh University | http://www.lehigh.edu/~swb2/swb2.html |
| Box A155 | |
| 39 University Dr. | RushU2DreamTheaterMarillionPrimusWu-Tang |
| Bethlehem, PA 18015-3041 | FatesWarningLiveKingCrimsonLedZeppelin |
| (610)758-0385 | StarTrekStarWars |
| | GO METS! GO KNICKS! GO GIANTS! |
|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| "Let the fray begin." |
| --Neil Peart of Rush |
\--------------------------------------------------------------------------/
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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:26:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Necronomicon
Message-ID: <199605031926.PAA184920@pilot12.cl.msu.edu>
I don't know about the rest of you, but to me this game soundtrack
basically amounts to a John Petrucci solo instrumental album. I'd love to
see the whole thing on CD, not just the best parts on PT. I know it'd be a
big pain in the ass to dub the whole thing, but I'd love to see it.
Later,
Andrew
-- garinger@pilot.msu.edu Zeta Beta Tau-Beta Epsilon Chapter "Ynos" 1996 Greek Week 2nd Place overall (ZBT, Sigma Delta Tau, and Phi Sigma Phi) --- Have boots. Will dub. Subcon, AD, WDATU, (coming soon) Ant., SFAM, & PT!"The individual, deprived of his self-importance in a glacial cosmos, submerged in mass movements, his initiative diminished in competition with huge corporations, his political self-determination absorbed in the growth of giant states, pushed aside by automation, swamped by quantity, did indeed cry out for aid in his struggle against a crushing sense of inferiority, helplessness, and self-contempt." --- Eugene Vale, Chaos Below Heaven
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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:31:54 -0400 (EDT) From: kingfrog@prolog.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT, Accept, Helloween, Savatage, Pink Cream 69 Message-ID: <199605031931.PAA24367@ns1.ptd.net>
There has been a lot of talk about DT using some of the same melodies in songs....I think some of you are missing the point. I can assure you it's not done on accident or because they are running out of ideas. In my opninon it ties songs together in a unique way. I love how in Learning to Live they go back to Wait for Sleep....It gave me chills cause I wasn't expecting it. Anyone who is familiar with Savatage will know they do this quite often. On their album Streets...they have a song called Believe, and at the ending of it they go inot the chorus from "When The Crowds Are Gone" which was on their previous CD "Gutter Ballet"... They also used a melody from "A Little Too Far" on "Alone You Breathe"which is off "Handful Of Rain". They sound so much better with their new singer Zachery Stevens...I think they have a great sound with the piano and should stick to it instead of trying to be a trash band. Remember that cheeseball band Raven? They tried to be a trash band too but then put out that commerical album Stay Hard and people were like "What the Hell Is this?" When they toured with Slayer and Death I hope they didn't play this.... I guess if they did they wouldn't have been killed. My favorite DT song is Metropolis...Did anyone notice what is going on during the extended instrumental section? Kevin starts playing this cool keyboard riff and everyone else is doing their own thing. Then he stops and Petrucci picks up that pattern. Now everyone is doing their own thing while he plays it. When Jihn stops...Mike starts to tap it out on the drums while everyone else does something different...I FOUND THAT SO COOL! I'd like to add my comments on Helloween....I am a huge fan and while I agree they aren't as good as they use to be...They are far from sucking. Helloween was at their best with Keepers part 1...they use to play that "Bouncy" type metal with lots of humor. That's what made them so unique. Now it seems to be just staright ahead metal which is cool but not as cool as the older stuff. The new singer, Andi Deris is very good but he was much better... a lot better in Pink Cream 69.....If you like 80's metal and don't have their S/T CD....go to an import store right now and order it....it's outrageous! Word has it that ex-singer Michael Kiske has a solo album coming out That would be killer!!! What is everyone's opinion on Accept? I realize they've been around for ages but they are just so damn good at writing those "Catchy" "Ball Crunching" tunes....They are awesome live....One question...How does UDO sing like that and still have a vocal chord left in his throat? For those that were unaware...they are still making CDs...Predator was the newest one. I also got a new CD by a band called Vanize which is Udo's brother....they sound like a younger version of Accept and he sings just like him!! Go figure!
Brian
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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 22:17:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: v932407@si.hhs.nl To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Carpe Diem Update!! (finally) Message-ID: <9605032017.AA08934@gomperts.si.hhs.nl>
Hi there!
First of aal, my apoligies (sp?) for not posting updates more regularly. I just can't find the time to do it. On top of that my mailbox got deleted 'cause it was 1.2 MB big!, so I had to go to school and ask my systemoperator to put it back in the mailspool for me.
Currently I'm not following any classes, but I'm an intern with a big company and work from 8-5 :( The rest of the time (well..... almost) I spend working on the 'Carpe Diem' project.
I didn't know that making a CD would bring so many problems with it...... I'm having some problems with the master CD, but don't worry! the cd will be released!!. I have everything finished, the envelopes (sp?) & postage and the booklet, but the cd-printing process is pretty slow. I *THINK* (HOPE?) that I can start shipping within a week or 2.
Sorry for the delay,
Marcel Berkhout v932407@si.hhs.nl
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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 13:14:35 -0700 From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero ) To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: lep Message-ID: <199605032014.NAA08947@dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com>
>Hey! I'm one of those kids who grew up with Wang Chung and the glam >bands of the 80's. Def Leppard's "Hysteria" was the first cassette I >ever bought, and I still have it.
me too! and so did someone else... man how many other people bought this as their first cassette?
about the tags for music (see elliot's post in 1514, i wont re-post it) i think labels are pointless anyway, cuz they never fit the music in most cases, and people try and tag other bands...
>Heavy as shit? I understand it was your basic 80's hair band metal.
see? (no flame intended, we all do this, just pulled a quick example)
alternative is the most popular form of music right now, so why the fuck's it called alternative?
oh yeah, can someone schedule DT to play in my back yard? thanks in advance! ;) ;) ;)
~Rip
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