YTSEJAM Digest 1531
Today's Topics:
1) End of YTSEJAM digest 1525
by BigDTFan@aol.com
2) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/08/96 - 04:32:13" <response@ibmmail.com>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1529
by Mike Pelarski <pelarski@cs.und.nodak.edu>
4) My first cassette.
by Orendil <orendil@ix.netcom.com>
5) Sister Mary and Mojo
by FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR)
6) my life
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
7) I FOUND SOMETHING
by Orendil <orendil@ix.netcom.com>
8) Terry Date is... you guessed it, an asshole
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
9) ELP help!!!
by ytsejammer <belhai@drew.edu>
10) Marillion
by Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu>
11) Re: I FOUND SOMETHING and Enchant
by "R. Hailey" <pass@u.washington.edu>
12) more Enchant
by "R. Hailey" <pass@u.washington.edu>
13) Re: Sister Mary and Mojo
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
14) ???
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
15) Coasts
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
16) Riddles, Hysteria, Necrophilia
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
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Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 23:20:15 -0400
From: BigDTFan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: End of YTSEJAM digest 1525
Message-ID: <960507232013_108918049@emout09.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-05-07 01:06:00 EDT, you write:
>From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
>Subject: Re: The Secret
>My guesses on this secret thing
>
>10- I'll get an EOJ with my only post this month.
>
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>
>End of YTSEJAM Digest 1525
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>
Whoah...
Elen me llamo rico suave your mom, Gandalf
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Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 23:30:47 EDT
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Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 22:33:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mike Pelarski <pelarski@cs.und.nodak.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1529
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960507215926.23223A-100000@agassiz.cas.und.nodak.edu>
> > Can anyone tell us about the bands Enchant and Cairo?
> Shadow Gallery is probably the closest to DT in overall sound (but
> don't expect them to be like DT or as good -- they're different). I find
> their music can get a bit cheesy at times, but a lot of DT fans (including
> me) like their album "Carved in Stone".
Count another vote for CiS being a great album: heavy stuff, power ballads,
classical-type bonus track, and a 22-minute epic piece titled "Ghostship."
(Deleting comments about Enchant and Magellan, since I don't yet have
any of their stuff...)
> Cairo is the most keyboard oriented of the bands I mentioned. I
> also find them a bit boring. The keyboards are well done, but they don't
> grab you with good melodies or dramatic dynamics. I'd recommend the above
> bands first.
However, (IMHO) calling them boring might be a bit of an overstatement.
They are not as over-the-top as DT and Shadow Gallery are, but, taken as
what they are (which is neo-prog), they are quite good. The best
comparisons in my collection are Arena and, to a lesser extent, Pendragon;
both of which are distributed (in the US) on the Griffin label.
I can recommend Arena's "Song's from the Lion's Cage" quite highly; Clive
Nolan on keys, Mick Pointer (ex-Marillion) on drums, and Steve Rothery
guests on one track. Pendragon is good, but isn't even on the same planet
as DT, sound-wise, so I'd approach them through some other neo-prog; any of
the above should suffice. BTW, Clive Nolan is also Pendragon's keyboardist;
anyone know how many other places this guy shows up?
If it's heavier neo-prog you want, try Grey Lady Down, also on Griffin.
I only have "The Crime", which I believe is their second of three albums.
First Album bought:
Night Ranger - Midnight Madness.
The Secret:
Obviously, DT will play a gig in North Dakota. (Yeah right.)
A serious guess? Ok... I think they will release the rest of their Covers
gig to round out the stuff on ACOS.
Me:
Just one of the newer fellows, amongst the now-722 member 'Jam.
Weather:
It has yet to hit 60 degrees F in Grand Forks, ND, this year. It sucks.
--Mike Pelarski
--NP: Grey Lady Down, "The Crime"
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Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 22:37:25 -0500
From: Orendil <orendil@ix.netcom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: My first cassette.
Message-ID: <319016F5.6E20@ix.netcom.com>
I hate to contribute to a NDTC thread, but here goes:
My first cassette was Run DMC, followed by the Beastie Boys (License to
Ill), and DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince.
Clearly, I've come a long way. I thank the heavens that I discovered
Guns'n'Roses and Metallica before it was too late.
-0rendil
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Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 00:05:50, -0500
From: FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR)
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Sister Mary and Mojo
Message-ID: <199605080405.AAA02604@mime2.prodigy.com>
You are wrong when you say Sister Mary was sung by Pamela
Moore. Geoff Tate did all the lead vocals (Suite sister mary
included) for O:M. I remember when Mindcrime came out the band was on
MTV and the VJ asked them if that was Geoff singing and he said
rather emphaticly " YES ". Pamela Moore only did the " What are you
doing out in the rain? Come in" parts. Just listen to the part where
Mary says " I'll close my eyes, You shoot" especially the you shoot
part. Listen to it and you'll hear that is is Geoff Tate without
question.
Mojo, perhaps you did not see my post. I said Hysteria, not
Pyromania. I also tend to disagree with you on the fact that they are
still doing well, while Maiden is playing clubs. I don't see anybody
beating down the doors to get the first copy of there next album.
Have you heard any singles yet? They have gone down hill fast since
Pyromania. They can't get out of that Glam faze. My friends have
nothing to do with it either, they do however call you " Kip "
affectionatly, when refering to you.
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Gandalf
P.S. Anybody see N.Y.P.D. Blue on Tuesday? That was a real shock eh?
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Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 00:51:37 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: my life
Message-ID: <19960508045130.AAA3215@mail.pananet.com>
well, jeez people thanx for screwing up my life! Besides the fact that,
because of you, I can't hear I&W because all Ihear is the snare and how it
always sounds exactly the same, there's also the fact that , thanks to you,
I can't decide wheter I should buy the new RatM, DMB, or Pantera first
SHEESH!
(this whole message was one big sarcastic remark, just in case somebody got
the wrong idea... [and I know somebody will, even with this little here
sentence] and I got the smileys to prove it:
:) :-) ;) ;-) =) =-) <=-)8 8(-=> (-= (= (-; (; (-: (: )
"Good evening hippies...there's rumor that there's life out there."
"I respond to enthusiasm."
"OK...great, OK...listen Bert,uh...how about this one?"(this one,this
one,this one,this one, this one, etc.)
Ernie :)
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Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 23:53:59 -0500
From: Orendil <orendil@ix.netcom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I FOUND SOMETHING
Message-ID: <319028E7.263D@ix.netcom.com>
Wow, I rarely ever post at all, and here I am posting twice within one hour.
Anyway, I was fooling around with some web searches and I ended up on the Ibanez JEM 777 home page. I followed
a few links and came across a picture of an Ibanez JEM with what appears to be a Majesty symbol emblazoned on
the finish in red. Has anyone else seen this phenomenon? I e-mailed the creator of the page for more
information. Perhaps this guitar was or is connected to DT or John Petrucci.
If you'd to check it out, set your browser to:
http://www.cs.trinity.edu/~kclark/rootbeer.jpg
If this has already been discussed on the jam and I'm making an ass of myself, please humor me.
-Orendil
Five Minutes Ago: "Wow, a root beer JEM, I wonder what that looks like...Hey...What the...No, it can't
be...yep, it's a Majesty symbol!"
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Date: Tue, 7 May 96 21:53:57 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Terry Date is... you guessed it, an asshole
Message-ID: <9605080453.AA13032@tengs1>
What more can be said?
Zach
p.s. I've been pretty much offered a job as an
apps. engineer for another company. Probably means
a lot more money. I guess I'll have to break down
and buy a computer to get my 'net access back. I
don't know how long I can survive w/out you all *sniff*
It also means I'll be stuck in the Bay Area. Oh well.
Regards to Warren (in Oregon), btw, for the inspiration
for this post.
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Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 01:28:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: ytsejammer <belhai@drew.edu>
To: YTSAYYY JAM!!! <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ELP help!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.960508012447.541192889C-100000@drew.edu>
Hello jammers-
I need some help. I have four Emerson, Lake, and Palmer CDs. They are the
first album, "tarkus", "trilogy", and "brain salad surgery." I also
bought "works: volume II" but did not like it. What do you suggest I buy
next that most closely resembles any of the above four?
Brandon Elhai
<belhai@drew.edu>
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Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 00:40:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Marillion
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960508003500.17021B-100000@comp.uark.edu>
Itchy,
Okay, I will be one of the first to agree that you may have gone
a bit overboard with all the Marillion talk. But like you said, I didn't
see anyone getting upset about it, so don't sweat it. It's good that we
all try to expose each other to new music, even if some of us go
overboard. Btw, anyone out there still not have Galactic Cowboys?
*hehe*
So, my point is this, band recommendations are good... just try
not to go *too* overboard on one band. I've gotten into some great music
as a result of the Ytsejam and of the tape swap project I carried out a
few months back. I'm now a proud fan of Kansas, Paradise Lost, Death,
Echolyn, Iced Earth, and Shadow Gallery, all as a direct result of
recommendations of fellow Jammers and the like. And I constantly find
myself pulling out old albums I haven't listened to in forever when
someone mentions them... in the next few weeks I even intend on stealing my
brother's copy of Misplaced Childhood (or whatever the name of it is) by
Marillion and giving it another listen.
DrX
/-------------------------------------------------------------------------\
| It is against the law for a monster to enter the corporate |
| limits of Urbana, Illinois. |
\-------------------------------------------------------------------------/
\------ Ed : ereed@comp.uark.edu, drx@reich.uark.edu ---------------/
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Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 22:57:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: "R. Hailey" <pass@u.washington.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: I FOUND SOMETHING and Enchant
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960507224158.128611C-100000@homer13.u.washington.edu>
On Tue, 7 May 1996, Orendil wrote:
> Wow, I rarely ever post at all, and here I am posting twice within one hour.
>
> Anyway, I was fooling around with some web searches and I ended up on the Ibanez JEM 777 home page. I followed
> a few links and came across a picture of an Ibanez JEM with what appears to be a Majesty symbol emblazoned on
> the finish in red. Has anyone else seen this phenomenon? I e-mailed the creator of the page for more
> information. Perhaps this guitar was or is connected to DT or John Petrucci.
heheh, looks like what I did to my guitar...
except mine is a red sticker on a dark blue body,
and the symbol isn't really visible from a distance.
but *I* know it's there. =)
also, somebody or bodies ask'd about Magna Carta bands,
and most of the bands were cover'd except for Enchant.
My recommendation is to definitely go for these guys.
(if you're me, that is.)
(if you're not me, then you'll want to hear a bit about them first)
they sort of sound like a cross between late Rush (HYF) and DT --
long stuff that is guitar orient'd, but not very chunky.
I *really* like the lyrics;
the singer is almost at LaBrie's level (not quite as operatic);
the guitarist is very good (Steve Rothery guests, Marillion Fans!)
the keyboardist is great and excells at laying down airy textures
(I think he only solo's -- albeit very capably -- on two songs, tho)
(unfortunately, he's no longer with the band... =( );
the bass player is pretty good, although he suffers from Myung Syndrome
(you have to strain to pick him out o' the mix most of the time);
and the drummer is phenomenal. Really. he's one of the reasons
that I could not put the disc away when I first got it.
Mister Portnoy, watch out!
this is the best disc I have bought since Images and Words.
YMMV
chris
-------------------http://weber.u.washington.edu/~pass-------------------
how sublime a thing it is l r.christopher hailey
to suffer and be strong l
l pass@u.washington.edu
enchant 'catharsis' l __ _.. _. _ .. .
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Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 23:00:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: "R. Hailey" <pass@u.washington.edu>
To: digest <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: more Enchant
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960507225846.128611D-100000@homer13.u.washington.edu>
btw, enchant has a nice website at:
http://ccnet4.ccnet.com/~theoasis/
chris
-------------------http://weber.u.washington.edu/~pass-------------------
leaving distrust behind l r.christopher hailey
..I'm inspired and content l
l pass@u.washington.edu
dream theater 'scarred' l __ _.. _. _ .. .
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Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 02:59:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Sister Mary and Mojo
Message-ID: <AlY4NYG00iWTAM3oMA@andrew.cmu.edu>
Excerpts from mail.ytsejam: 7-May-96 Sister Mary and Mojo by MR JOHN
CAHILLJR@prodigy
> You are wrong when you say Sister Mary was sung by Pamela
> Moore. Geoff Tate did all the lead vocals (Suite sister mary
> included) for O:M. I remember when Mindcrime came out the band was on
> MTV and the VJ asked them if that was Geoff singing and he said
> rather emphaticly " YES ". Pamela Moore only did the " What are you
> doing out in the rain? Come in" parts. Just listen to the part where
> Mary says " I'll close my eyes, You shoot" especially the you shoot
> part. Listen to it and you'll hear that is is Geoff Tate without
> question.
I don't think so, since on the Livecrime video we actually see the woman
singing (live, onstage) while Geoff is writhing about. And while her
voice is similar to his, it isn't the same. Now, I suppose it's possible
that she sang on tour and Geoff sang it in the studio, but I really
doubt it, since she definitely has the same voice on both recordings.
-Max
Anton Max
Keyboards, Aepithex
MadMax+@cmu.edu
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Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 00:34:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ???
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960508003317.87356D-100000@homer06.u.washington.edu>
> From: Aladdin <jc309@columbia.edu>
> Subject: Red Sector A
>
> Dear jammers,
>
> Greetings all! Man, I'm really behind on my jams! But anyways, just
> wanted to inform you that you guys don't have to worry about the Red
> Sector A/Lifting Shadows thing at all. The thing is that I'm now
> working FOR Red Sector A, which means that Lifting Shadows will become
> part of the Red Sector A Dream Theater page! I already put that up on
> the news section of Lifting Shadows a little while ago. But, you will
> see some really cool stuff as soon as we finish up this project, so keep
> an eye out for the Red Sector A page!
The DT-headquarters site is going to be called "Red Sector A?"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but "Red Sector A" is not a Dream Theater song.
It's a Rush song.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 00:37:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Coasts
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960508003422.87356E-100000@homer06.u.washington.edu>
> From: "R. Hailey" <pass@u.washington.edu>
> Subject: dt and rush rumours
>
> also, you east coasters make me ill. =P
> you talk so easily and so freely of Rush touring with DT
> for only part of tour --
> of course it would be the eastern leg, wouldn't it? <G>
> what about we poor deprived left coasters?
> I mean, geez, you guys get everything --
> the cons,
> the clinics,
> the run-ins...
> what do we get?
> grunge.
Geez... I think I'm gonna cry...
Someone mail DT's management a map of the US so they can see that there
are settled areas of land west of the Mississippi. BTW, anyone know why
the members of Queensryche aren't as involved in the whole clinic thing?
Have they ever been? You can bet those guys would be hitting the West
Coast a few times.
> so if Rush and DT tour together for only a few shows,
> it's gonna be over heah,
> or I will shurly turn this continent around wit mah beah hands.
> who's gonna hep me?
> =)
Hep you? HEP you???
"Scuse me while ah whip dis out."
Bafu Vai
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Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 01:00:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Riddles, Hysteria, Necrophilia
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960508005337.87356H-100000@homer06.u.washington.edu>
Sounds like the cruel progression most students call "Finals Week."
---- > From: "Death, Delirium, Desire, Despair, Destiny, Destruction, and > Dream" > Subject: NDTC, but it's a good riddle, does anyone have an idea? > > THERE ARE 3 WORDS IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE THAT END IN "GRY"No. There aren't.
> 1. HUNGRY > 2. ANGRY > 3. ? > > EVERYONE USES THE WORD EVERYDAY AND KNOWS WHAT IT STANDS FOR. > > IF YOU LISTENED CAREFULLY I ALREADY TOLD YOU WHAT THE WORD IS.
Good riddle, but you worded it slightly incorrectly...
---- > From: FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR) > Subject: Hysteria > > I hate to say it but Hysteria SUCKED COW BALLS, as did all Def > Leppard. This was a band that was competing in the club circuit during > the late 70's and early 80's with Iron Maiden. Maiden blows away DL > anyday. Plus DL was the real Spinal Tap except with Guitarists instead > of Drummers. I never owned Hysteria and never will.
Iron Maiden sucked cow balls. Who cares who was competing with who? You're competing with people right now as to who knows the most about Dream Theater and a host of other things, and it makes me sick. Go grab another End-Of-Jam if it'll make you feel better.
> The first Album I ever bought was Iron Maiden's The Number of the Beast > back in 1982. That was like pulling teeth to get it from my parents back > then. > > So take note Bafu, I did not grow up on Wang Chung!!!!!
Big deal. My original post made a pretty obvious reference to myself with the word "I." I heard Wang Chung on the radio dozens of times. I'll stick with my generation, you stick with yours. I still don't think either of us listens to "shit like Oasis."
---- > From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1524 > > You must have a lot of spare time in your hands... but I believe he > recorded that at half speed and then sped it up... no wait that's what > he does at the very end...
Maybe I'm just more concerned with my timing than you are. Maybe I like seeing how my right-hand picking technique stacks up with those fortunate enough to have theirs on a recorded album. In my opinion the only way to prove that someone (Paul Gilbert) is "fast" (or proficient in some way in their profession) is to show how he picks "faster" than his contemporaries, thus earning him the title of "fast" within his field. What do you want me to say? "No, he sounds faster than Yngwie to me, so he must be."
> > All I remember is Nintendo's "Blaster Master" having the coolest > > sixth-level soundtrack that wildly mimicked speed metal, but > > Damn that game was cool... I don't think I ever finished it though :(
Don't know anyone who did! :)
---- > From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> > Subject: Re: the SECRET (ooooh, ahhhhh) > > 2) Mike Portnoy has agreed to a 1-on-1 with our own winnah and > champeen, Bafu Vai! "Let's get ready to rummmbllllle...!"
Shit, uh... I was kind of kidding when I suggested that... You knew I was kidding, right? I don't really want to...yeah, anyway...
> 8) Ben Laussade is actually Mike Portnoy in disguise.....ahh, you get > the picture. :)
Anyone seen Monkeyboy lately? Was he grounded? Like a coffee bean or something?
---- > From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com> > Subject: Re: The Secret > > 4- All future DT songs will be in F# instead of F-Sharp.
Hahahaha!!
> 5- Mike Bahr's CDs will sell for $5 each.
Hohohohoho!!
> 7- John Myung speaks and utters the third word in the 'gry' riddle.
Hehehehehe!!
> 8- Berklee will start giving out guarantees with their diplomas
Shesheshesheshe!!
> 9- Necrophilia will also be released as a music-only CD at regular > price.
Necrophilia?! Someone mention this to Petrucci if he shows up at the Con. Maybe DT could do a song on an album based on the Necronomicon soundtrack, but change the title to Necrophilia...
> 10- I'll get an EOJ with my only post this month. > > Andy > > ------------------------------ > > End of YTSEJAM Digest 1525 > **************************
"Mekka-lekka-hi, mekka-heinie-ho!"
Your wish is granted. Long live Jambi.
Bafu Vai
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