YTSEJAM Digest 1537
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Mary
by brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod)
2) Just to let everyone know...
by Bryce Bukowsky <c664000@showme.missouri.edu>
3) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/09/96 - 16:47:09" <response@ibmmail.com>
4) Tape trees and coffee plants
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
5) WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
6) Bafu ...
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
7) Judas Priest tribute
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
8) RE: Bafu ...
by "Doug Cronkhite" <dougc@cerf.net>
9) Other "DT"-type bands
by cng@tcco.com
10) Replacing a member ain't all what it's cracked up to be...
by "MojoMan" <Mojonet@PB.net>
11) YTSEJAM digest 1536
by "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
12) Bruford game / 1st LP & CD
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
13) Allright Jammers, time to laugh.
by kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer)
14) Uh
by kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer)
15) Leaving......
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1534
by kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer)
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Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 09:16:13 -0600 (MDT)
From: brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Mary
Message-ID: <9605091516.AA29260@lamar.ColoState.EDU>
Hey all,
This is something that has always bugged me. What empirical evidence
is there to suggest that it was not a woman singing on O:M? Some nebulous
magazine article? It seems to me that it would be pretty easy to find a
woman capable of doing a duet with GT. I don't understand why this is
such an absurdity to other QR fans. This is not a flame. I am just
expressing wonder at what I percieve as the opinion either a) Geoff Tate is
such an incredible singer, no woman could possibly match him well enough
for a duet, or b) Geoff Tate is such an egomaniac that he could not stand
anyone else singing on an album with him. What are the other
alternatives, doubters? c) QR hired a studio singer with a good voice
(but no Kiri Tekanawa) to sing a couple of lines on an album that
required a character other than Geoff (BTW, I'll bet hiring her was
cheaper than one of those Gender/Bender things, but I could be wrong).
Slainte,
Bracken
"...Without music, life would be an error."
Nietzsche -Twilight of the Idols-
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Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 10:43:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: Bryce Bukowsky <c664000@showme.missouri.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Just to let everyone know...
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960509104029.65054A-100000@black.missouri.edu>
I will be leaving MU next Tues. and I'm transferring to Webster in St.
Louis. So I'm not sure when this account will go. I'll just re-subsribe
when I get my new account. If anyone wants to reach me, you can always
E-mail at my "Beeotch@dreamt.org" acount. They send my mail to whatever
account I have. Hopefully I won't miss too many jams.
Thanks,
Bryce Bukowsky
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Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 11:45:44 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/09/96 - 16:47:09" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
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Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 13:47:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Tape trees and coffee plants
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605091348.B23662-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com>
> Subject: distorted bass??
>
> i am just sick of hearing everyone whining about the tapes. like i
> said before...go out and buy yourself a DAT deck and some mics and
> see how much better your tapes come out, and until then i dont want
> to hear you bitching about a tape that was free.
Well, I can't say one way or the other, because I HAVEN'T GOTTEN MY DAMN
TAPES YET! (Not Broon's fault, but someone else on the tree.) Brian,
don't give up on us. Some of us really appreciate what you did. I'm
sure I will appreciate it, too, when my fucking tapes finally arrive.
----> From: btomko@home.glasscity.net > Subject: IRC > > I tried out the Dream Theater IRC last night, and it was well worth > the time it took to download the software. Does anyone have any suggestions > of other good music oriented IRC channels?
Yeah. There aren't any IRC channels or mailing lists as good as ours, in my experience.
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> From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook) > Subject: Re: The DT purity test > > Do me a favor, organise it privately. You may impress yourself by how > much of a Dream Theater fan you are, but not all of us really care. > > I've been gone for a couple of weeks and upon returning I had about 55 > jams to look through. I read about three or four of them and had to > delete the rest. I mean come on, all this crap about whether Geoff Tate > sang the female part on a disc that was released eight years ago; > someone whining because his feelings were hurt when someone didn't like > all the Marillion posts; and then the whole tape tree thing. I guess > we're all supposed to kiss Brian's ass because he's such a wonderful > human being for offering to run off a few DAT's. I looked over his list
[snip] Switch to decaf, man! Either that, or unsub when you go away.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ \|/ ____ \|/ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "@'/ ,. \`@" cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" /_| \__/ |_\ d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/ http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/
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Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 14:15:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Message-ID: <199605091815.OAA10182@wicked.stigmata.org>
Who is gonna drive me to Conneticut on the 16th for the Savatage show? Who? Raise your hand :)
Seriously, if anyone in the Boston area has a car and is willing to or really wants to go to Danbury, I am definately up for a road trip. Email me privately and maybe we can get something together.
Skadz
-- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | Ryan P Skadberg skadz@mindstorm.com | | s y s t e m . a d m i n i s t r a t o r / w e b . d e v e l o p e r | | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz/ http://www.dreamt.org/ | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ \ "And every prayer we pray at night has somehow lost its meaning" / \ "Dead Winter Dead" - Savatage / +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+
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Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 14:17:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bafu ... Message-ID: <199605091817.OAA10225@wicked.stigmata.org>
It was a demand. Just get it now.
The more I listen to it the more I love it. Someone said something about how it sounds like the whole song is gonna fall apart and then suddenly it comes back together in a great way, well I definately have to agree there.
So, who thinks they open with the song TGST on the tour? The beginning of that song is just pure opening noise.
Skadz
-- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | Ryan P Skadberg skadz@mindstorm.com | | s y s t e m . a d m i n i s t r a t o r / w e b . d e v e l o p e r | | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz/ http://www.dreamt.org/ | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ \ "And every prayer we pray at night has somehow lost its meaning" / \ "Dead Winter Dead" - Savatage / +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+
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Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 12:47:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Judas Priest tribute Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960509124628.8181B-100000@bdmserver>
I found this on the web:
The european version will be called "A tribute to the legend of Heavy Metal" and the following are confirmed artists and songs:
Helloween: Electric Eye Gamma Ray: Victim of Changes Trouble: Deceiver Testament: Rapid Fire Mercyful Fate: The Ripper Devin Thowsend: Sinner Saxon: You've Got Another Thing Comin' Manowar: Music not confirmed Dream Theater: Music not confirmed
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| |The Baltimore Orioles-The team to beat in 1996!!!!!!! | Go DC United! | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 13:01:26 -0700 From: "Doug Cronkhite" <dougc@cerf.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: Bafu ... Message-ID: <199605091958.MAA23204@nic.cerf.net>
To be honest.. I don't care which song they open with.. this whole album rocks.. things like Suicide Note Pt 1 and Flood are sooooooo moody.. and Darryl's lead break in Flood is very cool..
I've listened to it 5 times now.. and everytime I do.. I just shake my head and wonder where he (Darryl) comes up with this stuff.. it goes from noise to groove to in-yer-face heavy in the blink of an eye.. and this album's songwriting is way improved over FBD, which I think was a little too much bizarre stuff after track 6.
I guess i'd say this one has all the things I liked about their previous 3 albums rolled into 1 !!
Skadz is right... JUST BUY IT.. THAT'S AN ORDER MISTER....
---------- > From: Ryan P. Skadberg > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Bafu ... > Date: Thursday, May 09, 1996 11:29 AM > > It was a demand. Just get it now. > > The more I listen to it the more I love it. Someone said something > about how it sounds like the whole song is gonna fall apart and > then suddenly it comes back together in a great way, well I definately > have to agree there. > > So, who thinks they open with the song TGST on the tour? The beginning > of that song is just pure opening noise. > > Skadz > > -- > +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ > | Ryan P Skadberg skadz@mindstorm.com | > | s y s t e m . a d m i n i s t r a t o r / w e b . d e v e l o p e r | > | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz/ http://www.dreamt.org/ | > +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ > \ "And every prayer we pray at night has somehow lost its meaning" / > \ "Dead Winter Dead" - Savatage / > +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ >
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Date: Thu, 9 May 96 16:30:05 EDT From: cng@tcco.com To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Other "DT"-type bands Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+F7ZYlA@tcx.tcco.com>
I have always been a "progressive-metal" fan - Queensryche, Crimson Glory, Fates Warning. I also love "technique- oriented" guitarists such as Yngwie Malmsteen, Tony MacAlpine, Paul Gilbert, David T Chastain, etc... In Dream Theater, I have found the ULTIMATE BAND!
I must admit, I bought Dream Theater's "Images and Words" with my free Columbia House certificate because I couldn't find anything else. 5 CDs, 2 bootlegs and one video later - they are my favorite band. I have been listening to them on my drive to/from work for over a year now and it's still as awe-inspiring as the first day I played their CD. Are there any other bands that I should check out that play this type of music?
Thanks for letting me into this "group"!
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Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 17:02:33 -0400 From: "MojoMan" <Mojonet@PB.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Replacing a member ain't all what it's cracked up to be... Message-ID: <199605092109.OAA05294@mindcrime.ax.com>
> Another question for all...If one of the members would leave due to > "creative differences", who would be the hardest to replace? IMO, in order > of easiest to hardest to replace: > 5. Derek > 4. Portnoy > 3. Labrie > 2. Myung > 1. Petrucci
Replacing a member is a very chancy thing...
My band has gone through so many line up changes and we never seem to recouperate from each of the changes...of course a new member brings in something totally new...so it's also refreshing.... In this particular situation...I would have to say, although JP is definitely at the top of the list...Portnoy is one who would wreck the band if he left.... No one realizes how important he is to the arranging of the song... John Myung, although he seems extremely important to the mix COULD be replaced...here's my suggestion!!!
5. Derek 4. Myung 3. Portnoy 2. Petrucci 1. Labrie With a three way tie between...Portnoy, Labrie, and Petrucci...
A singer is not easy to replace....
There is only ONE band that has survived from a Singer change...and that is Van Halen...and the reason behind that is simple...no one realized that David Lee Roth was not Van Halen.... Eddie Van Halen was Van Halen!
M O J O M A N S P E A K S!
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Date: 09 May 1996 14:37:14 GMT From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1536 Message-ID: <199605092141.AA28064@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 05/09/96 10:31 Lisa DalBello didn't appear on Rage for Order, either she did a cover of the song or they covered her. I know it sucks when someone trys to correct bad information with incomplete information, but I just wanted to express that she didn't APPEAR on the song "Gonna Get Close To You." LATER-
Steve
*************************************************************** "You may remember me from such movies as 'Today We Kill, Tomorrow We Die' and 'Gladys the Groovy Mule.'" - actor Troy McClure
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Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 23:57:34 +-200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Dream Theater Mailing List'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Bruford game / 1st LP & CD Message-ID: <01BB3E07.4BE1C100@ppp129.GlobalXS.nl>
About that Bruford game:
1) John McLauglin started Mahavishnu Orchestra in '71. 2) In '75 John McLauglin started 'Shakti' with violin-player Shankar. 3) Frank Zappa produced Shankar's solo-album 'Touch Me There' in '79. 4) Terry Bozzio & Eddie Jobson played on Zappa's 'Zoot Allures' in 76. 5) Eddie Jobson & Bill Bruford both played in UK (Danger Money '79)
That's as close as I can get... :(
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About that first tape/album thing:
First 'Love' : Electric Light Orchestra in '79 (I was 8!) First concert : Electric Light Orchestra in '81 (1st row!) First LP : Bon Jovi - Bon Jovi '84 First CD : Ynwgie J. Malmsteen - Trilogy '86 Latest CD : Iris - Crossing The Desert (With Ian Mosley and Pete Trewavas from Marillion)
On Jam #1525 Charone said:
> Want to know what my first tape was? Didn't think so. But i'll > tell you anyway: INXS - Kick > > *charone loses the respect of everybody on the ytsejam
Not mine ! INXS /KICK-ed some ass in the 80's... Where R they now ? Last thing I heard was something about Michael Hutchence messing around with Bob Geldof's wife, after dumping Kylie Minogue and being dumped by Helena Christensen. Guess he's just screwing around these days...
Hasta Luego... Pasta & Legos,
Itchy (NOT Bitchy) Mark Bredius, Bredius@GlobalXS.nl - Itchy@dreamt.org ___________________________________________________________________mmm__ One fine day... The chaos subsides C" \__ Bleeds into awareness... And a lifetime of surprise ()-()\_ ________________________________________________________________/ ~ \
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Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 15:56:22 +0800 From: kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Allright Jammers, time to laugh. Message-ID: <v01510102adb75552ae84@[206.14.103.54]>
YOU MAY BE AN ENGINEER, AND NOT EVEN KNOW IT,
If you introduce your wife as "mylady@home.wife" If your spouse sends you an e-mail instead of calling you to dinner If you can quote scenes from any Monty Python movie If you want an 8X CDROM for Christmas If Dilbert is your hero If you stare at an orange juice container because it says CONCENTRATE If you can name 6 Star Trek episodes If the only jokes you receive are through e-mail If your wrist watch has more computing power than a 486DX-50 If your idea of good interpersonal communication means getting the decimal point in the right place If you look forward to Christmas only to put together the kids' toys If you use a CAD package to design your son's Pine Wood Derby car If you have used coat hangers and duct tape for something other than hanging coats and taping ducts If, at Christmas, it goes without saying that you will be the one to find the burnt-out bulb in the string If you window shop at Radio Shack If your ideal evening consists of fast-forwarding through the latest sci- fi movie looking for technical inaccuracies If you have "Dilbert" comics displayed anywhere in your work area If you carry on a one-hour debate over the expected results of a test that actually takes five minutes to run If you are convinced you can build a phazer out of your garage door opener and your camera's flash attachment If you don't even know where the cover to your personal computer is If you have modified your can-opener to be microprocessor driven If you know the direction the water swirls when you flush If you own "Official Star Trek" anything If you have ever taken the back off your TV just to see what's inside If a team of you and your co-workers have set out to modify the antenna on the radio in your work area for better reception If you ever burned down the gymnasium with your Science Fair project If you are currently gathering the components to build your own nuclear reactor If you own one or more white short-sleeve dress shirts If you have never backed-up your hard drive If you are aware that computers are actually only good for playing games, but are afraid to say it out loud If you truly believe aliens are living among us If you have ever saved the power cord from a broken appliance If you have ever purchased an electronic appliance "as-is" If you see a good design and still have to change it If the salespeople at Circuit City can't answer any of your questions If you still own a slide rule and you know how to work it If the thought that a CD could refer to finance or music never enters your mind If you own a set of itty-bitty screw drivers, but you don't remember where they are If you rotate your screen savers more frequently than your automobile tires If you have a functioning home copier machine, but every toaster you own turns bread into charcoal If you have more toys than your kids If you need a checklist to turn on the TV If you have introduced your kids by the wrong name If you have a habit of destroying things in order to see how they work If your I.Q. number is bigger than your weight If the microphone or visual aids at a meeting don't work and you rush up to the front to fix it If you can remember 7 computer passwords but not your anniversary If you have memorized the program schedule for the Discovery channel and have seen most of the shows already If you have ever owned a calculator with no equal key and know what RPN stands for If your father sat 2 inches in front of your family's first color TV with a magnifying lens to see how they made the colors, and you grew up thinking that was normal If you know how to take the cover off of your computer, and what size screw driver to use If you can type 70 words a minute but can't read your own handwriting If people groan at the party when you pick out the music If you can't remember where you parked your car for the 3rd time this week If you did the sound system for your senior prom If your checkbook always balances If your wristwatch has more buttons than a telephone If you have more friends on the Internet than in real life If you thought the real heroes of "Apollo 13" were the mission controllers If you think that when people around you yawn, it's because they didn't get enough sleep If you spend more on your home computer than your car If you know what http:/ stands for If you've ever tried to repair a $5.00 radio If you have a neatly sorted collection of old bolts and nuts in your garage If your three year old son asks why the sky is blue and you try to explain atmospheric absorption theory If your laptop computer costs more than your car If your 4 basic food groups are: 1. Caffeine 2. Fat 3. Sugar 4. Chocolate
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Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 15:57:17 +0800 From: kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Uh Message-ID: <v01510103adb755afc45d@[206.14.103.54]>
That humor was me.
Didnt want to be confused with all the other kretschmer@bdt.com's out there.
Jon
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Date: Thu, 9 May 96 19:01:39 EDT From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Leaving...... Message-ID: <9605092301.AA26395@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Yes, all I am going home for the summer on Saturday, and I am unsubscribing tonight. It's been great fun, I am glad that somebody got me onto this list way back in September. I will be back again, so fear not. If you want to send me mail, try the following email addreses:
s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu Damon@cafebbs.com damon@dreamt.org
i may get internet access locally at home, but I doubt it. I will be checking mail irregularily over the summer, so just be patient. Hopefully, when I return, everybody will be more snae and love each other. And all that other bullshit. have a great summer. Maybe I will be on IRC before Saturday, ...... maybe not. Who knows. Take care all.
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Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 15:59:47 +0800 From: kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1534 Message-ID: <v01510104adb7564ce8d2@[206.14.103.54]>
>>Another question for all...If one of the members would leave due to >>"creative differences", who would be the hardest to replace? > >Jeff, when you leave the 'jam, you will be the EASIEST to replace.
And his mom the hardest.
Jon
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