YTSEJAM Digest 1545
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/13/96 - 13:07:13" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) re: Savatage shows
by cng@tcco.com
3) re: YTSEJAM digest 1543
by cng@tcco.com
4) Crimson Glory
by cng@tcco.com
5) DT at wedding/Fates shirts
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
6) Canadian Jammers & LOUD
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
7) Steve Morse Band/Misc. Stuff
by Steven Jacobsen <jacobssa@hqamc.safb.af.mil>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1544
by "Ytse' Jim" <jlutz@hartford.edu>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1543
by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
10) subscription info
by Marc Respass <marcr@tiac.net>
11) Re: Hey wow
by Ben Brizzell <bennu@global2000.net>
12) Iron Maiden and Pantera
by napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
13) Re: Firsts
by brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod)
14) King's X Mailing List SPECIAL (fwd)
by Gilbert Thetgyi <102346.2730@CompuServe.COM>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1544
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
16) King's X
by "Doug Cronkhite" <dougc@cerf.net>
17) survived AND thrived ?
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
18) Re: Steve Morse Band/Misc. Stuff
by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
19) aaaargh!
by jestok@interlog.com (John Estok)
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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 08:05:46 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/13/96 - 13:07:13" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
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Date: Mon, 13 May 96 9:19:34 EDT
From: cng@tcco.com
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: re: Savatage shows
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+gMnZlA@tcx.tcco.com>
Does anyone know what the lineup will be for the Savatage shows? I saw them
on the "Handful" tour @ L'amours in Brooklyn and they kicked ass. Alex
Skolnick was playing an acoustic guitar outside the club at about 3pm and
unfortunately I didn't have my guitar for him to autograph. I wish he
could've stayed on as the lead guitarist...
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Date: Mon, 13 May 96 9:28:32 EDT
From: cng@tcco.com
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: re: YTSEJAM digest 1543
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+3SnZlA@tcx.tcco.com>
| From: Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org>
|
| Exactly. Look at JP's solo in Voices. Anyone who can...
| Wait a minute... That sounds like the start of a BLANKET
| STATEMENT... I better rephrase that... Listen to the
| Voices guitar solo and then see if you can honestly say
| that fast players can't play FAST with soul.
You're NEVER going to believe this, but as I was sitting here reading your
post, "voices" was playing!!! It wasn't at the solo, but it's still cool
nonetheless...
I had the same problem when I used to take lessons. If I started playing too
many scalar passages, my instructor would also say "okay, slow it down and
play with more feeling". That used to piss me off to no end.
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Date: Mon, 13 May 96 9:41:30 EDT
From: cng@tcco.com
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Crimson Glory
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+6inZlA@tcx.tcco.com>
Does anyone know if the first Crimson Glory album is available on CD? I taped
it off a radio show years ago and sound has pretty much died on my cassette.
If anyone has any info on how I can get it or wants to trade (I have almost
1000 CDs now...), please let me know.
Thanks
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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 10:27:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT at wedding/Fates shirts
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960513102115.16036I-100000@bdmserver>
Although our wedding date is not until June 1997, we've lined up a dj for
the wedding reception. He is a friend of my fiancee. Since DT is my
favorite band, I must have a DT song played at my wedding. The question
is what is a suitable DT song for a wedding? I suggested ACOS but my
fiancee said hell no to that one :)
--------
I got the Fates Warning shirt, that were offered awhile back, in the mail
Saturday. Basically it is the Fates Logo on the front and some quote on
the back with alt.music.fates.warning under the quote. For anyone who
also got one of these shirts, do you know what song the quote comes from?
---- Alos I have noted that alt.music.dream-theater and alt.music.fates-warning have be removed from my newsserver. I guess they are not official (bogus) newsgroups?|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| |The Baltimore Orioles-The team to beat in 1996!!!!!!! | Go DC United! | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 10:33:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Canadian Jammers & LOUD Message-ID: <199605141433.KAA25754@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hey all
John Fewer <jfewer@voyager.newcomm.net> wrote:
> I'm trying to find out how many Jammers are actually from Canada. Skadz, > can you give me any idea in numbers. Mariano Stalker (Lugie or Booger on > IRC), i know of you , we talked briefly on the IRC jam. You,me and James > LaBrie can't be the only Canadian connection to Dream Theater.
There are about a dozen jammers with .ca addresses. Anyone else, like with com or net addresses, I cna't tell if they are CA or US.
> Skadz- With you mind if tried to get a hold of that new MUCHMUSIC HARD > ROCK/METAL show (Loud, i think)to get them to publicize this and the > othe DT Web sites!
Ummmm, English, use it :)
IF you are saying you are gonna try to contact them, go for it! If you want me to do it, you are in a long line of people waiting for me to do stuff :)
> Also, would anyone DUB the Live in Tokyo video for me?PLEASE ;-}
NONONONONONO Noone do this. This is bad. I have no problem with dubbing bootlegs and stuff, but released material SHOULD NOT be dubbed. Ask someone to pick it up at the store for you, but do not dub released material.
Skadz
-- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | Ryan P Skadberg skadz@mindstorm.com | | s y s t e m . a d m i n i s t r a t o r / w e b . d e v e l o p e r | | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz/ http://www.dreamt.org/ | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ \ "And every prayer we pray at night has somehow lost its meaning" / \ "Dead Winter Dead" - Savatage / +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+
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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 10:32:33 -0500 From: Steven Jacobsen <jacobssa@hqamc.safb.af.mil> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Steve Morse Band/Misc. Stuff Message-ID: <s1970fba.051@hqamc.safb.af.mil>
Greetings YTSEFOLKS,
Heard a song on the radio yesterday from the new Steve Morse Band album (can't remember the title) and thought that my fellow jammer's mught want to pick this up. It was strictly an instrumental song but, GOD!, did that sucker rock! Apparently Steve Morse has replaced Richie Blackmore in Deep Purple now but has released a solo album anyways. Must get if the rest is as good as the one I heard. Also heard that the new Rush album is coming out in August. And one final thing, having just returned from Europe and getting the chance to Bernd (of Superior), I must recommend that any on you who don't have their CD, to get it now. Thoroughly impressive work by a fellow jammer. I have turned several of my friends on to this and will be getting at least 10 more copies for them. Don't miss out on this one also...
Later. Steve
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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 11:36:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ytse' Jim" <jlutz@hartford.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1544 Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960513112523.5201A-100000@jabba>
Mojoman wrote: > 1) Iron Maiden, with Bruce Dickinson > years ago....everyone knew who, and what IM was about...if you > heard IM (as a music listener, not musician) nowadays...not many people > would guess that it was still IM ( I know many of you would be able to, > and you may even have the new album on CMC records....BUT can you say > that about the passive listener??).....the Bruce Dickenson voice was too > heavy an identifying factor!
I don't think the person was talkin about changing from Dickinson to Blaze, but Dianno to Dickinson. Maiden were much more popular with Bruce than Dianno or Blaze. A lot of my friends have not even heard Dianno sing, yet he recorded the first two albums and Bruce started on the third.
================================================================ /// Writing about music is like dancing about architecture. \\\ /// -Frank Zappa \\\ /// \\\ -- -- \\\ Jim Lutz E-Mail: YtseJim@dreamt.org /// \\\ jlutz@hartford.edu /// \\\ lutz@uhavax.hartford.edu /// ================================================================
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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 13:59:18 -0500 (EST) From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1543 Message-ID: <v01510103adbcf07233c8@[137.238.26.12]>
>Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 20:41:54 -0700 >From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Oh yeah >Message-ID: <199605130341.UAA05472@cats.ucsc.edu> > >And a Happy Mudder's day to any Mudders out there, and to the Mudders of all >Jammers.
Well thank you. That was very thoughtful. I think that I'm the only mommy on the 'jam?????????????? Are there any closet moms out there?
-BABS
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Date: Mon, 13 May 96 14:13:02 -0400 From: Marc Respass <marcr@tiac.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: subscription info Message-ID: <199605131815.OAA27211@mailserver2.tiac.net>
Hi Y'all,
Sorry to clutter the 'jam with this but I have to unsubscribe and I trashed the info a long time ago. Will someone please email the unsubscribe info. Thanks a lot.
--Marc Respass (marcr@tiac.net -- America Online: AFC Marc) Come visit the Joel Rivard Group home page at http://www.tiac.net/users/marcr/
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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 14:22:29 -0400 From: Ben Brizzell <bennu@global2000.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Hey wow Message-ID: <199605131822.OAA08881@mail.global2000.net>
At 08:32 PM 5/12/96 -0700, Chris wrote:
> >I originally went into the music store because they had gotten in my >Moonspell CD. I listened to it, and while the music is good, the vocals >really turned me off. Where are these guys from? The accent doesn't sound >like your typical German Prog-Vocals. Anyhoo, I wouldn't recomment it for >people who like melodic vocals. >
Moonspell, eh? They are one of my favorite bands. They are from Portugal. Whoever told you that they were German and had prog-style vocals was way off. The singer sounds more like somebody imitating Dracula than anything else. _Wolfheart_ is a cool concept album about werewolves if you can get past the vocals. They're not that bad. Just MHO...
Ben Brizzell bennu@global2000.net
Check out the ANACHRONISM home page: http://www.clarkson.edu/~rappazmc/pump.html
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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 14:11:21 -0500 From: napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Iron Maiden and Pantera Message-ID: <v01510101adbd3713f5b1@[204.71.98.36]>
Hiya, To the person who said IM didn't survive a singer change and went on to talk about Blaze and Dickenson. I believe the post was about Dickenson replacing Iron Maiden's first singer. Ya know that really stupid looking leather and spike fat guy. Dickenson replaced fat-boy after leaving his other band (Wolfsbane maybe?). I don't know why I'm writing about IM as I really get sleepy everytime I listen to them-snooze)
OK, Pantera-Is there actual singing on "Southern Trendkill"? I bought "Far Beyond Hope" after hearing "Cemetery Gates" from the "Demon Knight" soundtrack. I love the vocals on "Gates" because there is actually a tone behind the words and the guy has a great voice, but "Far Beyond Crap" bores the hell out of me. The growling vocals just sound so...well..stupid. Only Sepultura and Korn can growl with any degree of aplomb. If Philip sings on "Trendkill" I might buy it if he continues to growl like a feral canine humping a cheese grater I think I'll leave the one copy our music store bought lying there to rot. Also, does anyone know why rex thinks he is God's gift to bassdom. I think his bass lines are actually very simple-the bass lines I put behind my band are more complex, and I've only been playing six-string bass for four years. Let's hear it for studying Jazz and classical. Seriously, if anyone knows why he is good or well decent or well just doesn't plain suck can you please explain it to me. Miller, Pattitucci, Myung, or Ellefson could all eat Rex for breakfast and floss with Rex's G-String.
Cheers!
napkins@clandjop.com Seth Hatlelid
"I just bought a Bass Masters Magazine and all the articles were about freakin fishing, not one word about Jaco or Myung. What gives!"
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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 13:34:00 -0600 (MDT) From: brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Firsts Message-ID: <9605131934.AA88880@lamar.ColoState.EDU>
>>Alright! Who's going to *really* date themselves and >>admit their first 8-track???
First Vinal: Alice Cooper's Billion Dollar Babies First Tape: Zephyr's Goin' Back to Colorado (Tommy Bolin on GTRs) First 8-Track: Kiss' The Elder (still one of my fav's! Only on CD now.) First CD: Queensryche's Operation: Mindcrime
Man am I a 70's child or what!?!
Slainte, Bracken
"...Without music, life would be an error." Nietzsche -Twilight of the Idols-
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Date: 13 May 96 15:56:44 EDT From: Gilbert Thetgyi <102346.2730@CompuServe.COM> To: dt <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: King's X Mailing List SPECIAL (fwd) Message-ID: <960513195643_102346.2730_HHQ70-2@CompuServe.COM>
---------- Forwarded Message ---------- >Date: Sat, 11 May 96 10:01:01 +0000 >Subject: King's X Mailing List SPECIAL > >This is a special issue of GGTTI prompted by Ty's >email below. Please *everyone* make some phone calls/emails >to the stations re: more airplay for the single...even if >you don't live in their area! And if you have more to >add to the list please post the details. In addition I >will be emailing the list below on 'behalf' of the >collective GGTTI's 850 subscribers re: King's X airplay. > >I know you all want King's X to succeed and we *can* make a >difference...lets go to it! > >Take care, >Robert >kx-mgr > >======================================================== >From: Ty Tabor >Subject: Bad News > >well...... > >here's the report of the first week the single went to >radio in america. i'll start by giving you an idea of how >it usually goes for us. we normally start out with about >70 to 80 stations picking up the record during the first >week.... > >well...this week we got 15. this is WORSE than the >response we got on the FIRST album!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >if anybody ever wanted to request the single from your >local radio, now's the time. let's hope the album doesn't >die before it comes out!!!!! ; ) > >Ty
Dear Ytsejammers,
Please, _please_ if at all possible, make an attempt to request the latest King's X singles off of the forthcoming album, "Ear Candy". I know this is NDTC, but this is something that could happen to DT in the future if not averted. Good music does not deserve this type of reception, IMHO. I didn't post the entire message, but if you would like more information (radio stations, e-mail addresses), please e-mail me privately at your earliest convenience. Thanks for the bandwidth.
Sincerely,
G. Jack Thetgyi
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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 14:19:06 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1544 Message-ID: <199605132119.OAA05457@cats.ucsc.edu>
>> 1) Iron Maiden, with Bruce Dickinson > > years ago....everyone knew who, and what IM was about...if you heard IM >(as a music listener, not musician) nowadays...not many people would >guess that it was still IM ( I know many of you would be able to, and you >may even have the new album on CMC records....BUT can you say that about >the passive listener??).....the Bruce Dickenson voice was too heavy an >identifying factor! >
Ah, but Bruce was not the first singer! And that is the point being made.
__ /\ __ +-------------------------------------+ __\/__\/__ | ~Chris |-+ \_||_/ | For a boring homepage, web to: | | /__||__\ | http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/ | | // \ | \\ +-------------------------------------+ | \| +-------------------------------------+
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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 14:36:35 -0700 From: "Doug Cronkhite" <dougc@cerf.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: King's X Message-ID: <199605132132.OAA13754@smtp2.cerf.net>
I can't believe the poor response from radio around the country regarding the new single from "Ear Candy". I would have thought that this might be better received than Ty's message would suggest. I've been a big fan of King's X ever since I heard Out of the Silent Planet and it'd be a real shame to let a band like this fade away. So to all those who would, call the radio stations and tell you wanna hear King's X.
On another note :) I'd like to let all of you know about a band that recently toured with Joe Satriani, called "The Mustard Seeds". I must confess to being a bit biased since the drummer is a good friend of mine, but they have some very obvious King's X influences and are worth taking a look at. I don't know how much distribution their CD is getting, but for those who are interested, they are on Entourage records out of Hollywood, CA. The band members include Matt Bissonette (David Lee Roth band) and a couple of well respected (at least in LA) studio musicians.
I'm afraid we're going to have to fight the music powers that be all the way into reviving an obviously lagging quality music scene.. I see an almost purposefull lack of musicianship in today's popular music. If you can play.. it seems the records companies and radio stations don't care. Bands like Verve Pipe, Rancid, Garbage (couldn't name them better myself) are clogging up the airwaves.
I know I'm preaching, but damnit.. if we don't at least try to do something about this.. music will keep falling to the lowest bidder.. I'm tired of it..
Doug Cronkhite
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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 23:22:26 +-200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Dream Theater Mailing List'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: survived AND thrived ? Message-ID: <01BB412B.373A7E00@ppp142.GlobalXS.nl>
John Cahill said on Jam #1543:
> ...other bands that have survived and thrived with New singers. > 1) Iron Maiden, with Bruce Dickinson > 2) Genesis, W/ Phil Collins > 3) DT/ James Labrie > 4) Fates Warning W/ Ray Alder > 5) Marillion
Nr. 5... Definately IMO (although some on the Freaks-list beg to differ)
But Genesis ??? They did thrive if you're talking about album-sales... But artistically they just plain sucked with PC (well, at least after Hackett left) ---> IMO <---> IMHO <---> IMVHO <---
Personally, I'm really looking forward to the next Genesis album. That is, if they dare to pick a singer that doesn't look/sound like PC, but one that takes them back onto the road to musical adventure... Someone like the 'big scaled one' (Freaks know who) who's in desperate need of a good band/album right now...
(DTC coming up!) About JLB... Could they possibly have picked a better replacement... ? ..Does such a stupid question deserve an answer... I don't think so ! Same goes for #5 IMNSHO... ;-)
Well, that's enough for me right now... Btw, sorry about mentioning 'nr.5'... Has anyone seen that movie 'Short Circuit' ? If you did see it : "NR. 5 IS ALIVE!!!" :D
Hasta Luego... Pasta & Legos,
Mark Bredius, Bredius@GlobalXS.nl - Itchy@dreamt.org ________________________________________________________________________ Tell me I'm mad. How should I know ? | \||/ Tell me I'm mad. I have been here for so long | Itchy !!! / \ Help me paint a picture. Then say it's a lie | NOT C%` D \ Tell me I'm mad ! You're a fine one to decide..... | BItchy ()H( ) _\ ___________________________________________________|________/ ' / \
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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 16:58:43 -0600 (MDT) From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Steve Morse Band/Misc. Stuff Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960513162205.16304A-100000@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Steve Morse's new album "Stressfest" is absolutely killer! He takes a much harder edge than any of the Steve Morse Band/Dixie Dregs stuff I've heard before. I got this CD the other day along with the Dregs' Full Circle. I did not realy like the DD album, but the Steve Morse rips!!! Highly recommended. ->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->-> Adam R. Bertapelle "Scuse me...while I kiss this guy!" bertapel@ucsu.colorado.edu Jimi Hendrix Ask for my bootleg list! Purple Haze <-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<
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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 19:29:08 -0400 From: jestok@interlog.com (John Estok) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: aaaargh! Message-ID: <199605132328.TAA24292@gold.interlog.com>
Talk about frustrating. I am itching to get my hands on Live in Tokyo. I have been searching for it for quite a while now with no luck. Then I ordered it from the Blockbuster Video catalog. Today I got a call from this bitch (bless her heart) who said:
I'm sorry, our company no longer carries this cassette. Have a nice day!
Fuck you!!
On a lighter note, I finally got "the great southern trendkill" This should avert my anger.
Michelob
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