YTSEJAM Digest 1550
Today's Topics:
1) Upcoming TV Appearances
by hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal)
2) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/15/96 - 00:01:33" <response@ibmmail.com>
3) My pitifully short 'Firsts' list
by Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org>
4) Superior
by Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org>
5) Re: The Decaf Society
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
6) Missing Extreme Song ....
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
7) Rebuttal - Superior CD's
by jskewes@why.net (jskewes)
8) Bafu is losing his touch...
by Bogie34@aol.com
9) Just thinking...
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
10) Brain Waves
by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
11) Twister Jingle
by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
12) re: Singers and Success
by cng@tcco.com
13) DESPERATE ARIZONA BOY SEEKS DT
by Uncle.Dave@asu.edu
14) IRC Page....
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1546
by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
16) New Magna Carta signatures / JP "Rock discipline video"
by auzzy@tequila.entpe.fr.i (St\iphane Auzilleau)
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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 15:49:47 -0700
From: hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Upcoming TV Appearances
Message-ID: <199605142249.PAA24511@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com>
Almost forgot -
This week and next, several of the artists and bands that have been
mentioned here on the 'jam are appearing on late-night shows. At the
risk of plagiarizing (sp?), I will reprint part of the late-show
schedules below:
* The Late Show with David Letterman, on CBS *
Thursday, May 16: Spin Doctors
Friday, May 17: Dave Matthews Band
Friday May 24: Seven Mary Three
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* The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, on NBC *
Thursday, May 16: Def Leppard
Friday, May 17: Gin Blossoms
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* Late Night with Conan O'Brien, on NBC *
Wednesday, May 15: Tori Amos
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And last, but probably also least:
* Howard Stern, on E! *
Friday, May 17: David Lee Roth
(Hopefully, Howard will ask Dave "what the fuck were you thinking?")
So here are your choices -
Wednesday: Tori Amos (no choice, if you can stay up that late)
Thursday: Spin Doctors or Def Leppard
Friday: Gin Blossoms or DMB, or DLR (at a different time, probably)
Friday (5/24): Seven Mary Three or masturbate the old giraffe again
(easy one)
Type atcha later,
Larry
"This is not reality . . ."
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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 19:00:04 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/15/96 - 00:01:33" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199605142259.PAA20906@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 22:59:59 GMT on 14 May 1996 has been delivered.
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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 18:58:48 -0300
From: Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org>
To: Valhalla <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: My pitifully short 'Firsts' list
Message-ID: <31990218.679D@dreamt.org>
Hey, I'm 16 and that limits the size of my firsts list, but that
shouldn't stop me from joining in on the conversation! Here's my
Pitifully Short Firsts List (c)1996 Daniel McCormack:
First 8-track: None
First Vinyl: None
First Tape: Petra, Beat the System*
First CD: Petra, Beyond Belief*
First DAT: Dub of Bahr's AD
First MiniDisc: None
First DCC: None
OK, maybe not so pitifully short... You can add a lot with those
'None's...
* Petra is a Christian Rock Group who I was into for a long time right
before DT. I fact, they're basically the reason I first heard of DT -
the singer has a high range, and one christmas my aunt got me I&W
because 'it sounds like Petra.' Needless to say, I DIDN'T like it at
first (all prog rock has to grow on me) but after a while I started
liking it. Oh, yeah, during my 'I guess they're OK' stage DT did a live
chat on Compuserve... I was there, but I didn't really care. I just
asked MP and JM two questions (Are you coming to Puerto Rico on your
next tour, and are there any DT tab books... I got a No for both). I
really kick myself for that... OK, this footnote is getting longer than
the message... Later all.
--Later, -That DMC Guy-
-- [New, improved, SHORTENED .sig, just for Gabbo ;) ]
Daniel McCormack dmc@dreamt.org http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/dan.html
"All the dead greenery, sacrificed for you and me I'm the one who cares for them - I'm a Carnatarian" - Chris Merlo (D-Man), Carnatarian, Polio Dog
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-" - General John Sedgewick, Union Commander in the Civil War, speaking his last words.
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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 19:11:19 -0300 From: Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org> To: Valhalla <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Superior Message-ID: <31990507.7AAA@dreamt.org>
Hey, one more thing, I kind of ignored the talk about Superior before, when everyone was asking about the CD, and now that I've D/Led mIRC and Words II and heard the sound clip, I want a CD! I don't remember what the final conlusion was about whether it was possible/practical/econommical to get a Superior CD, but I remember a big fuss about it... Could I find this CD in Specs, for example? If not, with Berndt on the list, shouldn't it be easy to get one anyways? Berndt, can you hook me up wit one of yer awesome CDs? You might want to e-mail me personally (dmc@dreamt.org)...
Thanks, -That DMC Guy-
--
Daniel McCormack dmc@dreamt.org http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/dan.html
"All the dead greenery, sacrificed for you and me I'm the one who cares for them - I'm a Carnatarian" - Chris Merlo (D-Man), Carnatarian, Polio Dog
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-" - General John Sedgewick, Union Commander in the Civil War, speaking his last words.
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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 16:14:12 -0700 From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: The Decaf Society Message-ID: <199605142314.QAA04559@dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com>
From: "MojoMan" <Mojonet@PB.net> Subject: The nerve of some fucking people!!!!!!!
[snip]
>>Fuck you, you piece of shit!
[snip]
>>If you read the fucking Jam, you will notice that...yes...I did claim responsibility for that error......
[snip]
>>Uuhhh....NO, John......get objective if you're going to argue with me...
[snip]
>>Yes...and Journey couldn't break out of being deep in the red before he joined... >>You fail to miss my fucking point....and I could care less at this stage...You are digging John...and I'm getting kind of sick of the lets 'lets match and top every little thing that Mojo says' mentality coming from you...<<
[snip]
>>Do you mean to say "I was dissappointed..." ??? ....well then John...you are fooling yourself....<<
[snip]
>>Whatever...
>>Does this mean you will go away?
It looks like someone ran out of Decaf again!
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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 19:47:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Missing Extreme Song .... Message-ID: <199605142347.TAA01338@wicked.stigmata.org>
Don't Leave Me Alone.
Its on the Tragic Comic single. I heard a friend do it at a show and was really confused for a while because he said it was on ]I[ Sides and it wasn't :)
Skadz
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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 18:50:34 -0500 From: jskewes@why.net (jskewes) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Rebuttal - Superior CD's Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960514235034.00695bb8@why.net>
>Just got the Superior CD and it does indeed kick gluteous max (to quote >Geddy). Bernd - you RULE! Great sound you're getting, lotsa balls and >crunch (and as we all know - that's where it's at!)
Glad you agree.
>BUT!!??!?!?! - did anyone tell me I was getting a USED CD for my $19? >I don't remember if they did, but this is definitely used! There was >no shrink-wrap; the jewel case is scratched and smudged, the CD itself >had lots of "crap" on it, and even the booklet had stuff on the pages >(did I read something about chocolate???)
The CD's ARE NOT USED!!!!
They arrive to me without shrink-wrap. We are talking about a small band doing their best to put out their own CD. Shrink-wrapping costs money - and I'd have to pass that on to you. I am actually losing money on each CD sold right now, but it's worth it for me to get this into your hands! The jewel case is scratched because it was shipped with about 40 other CD's all the way from Germany. Things don't always come out the mailbox unscratched.
As I explained to everyone who ordered a CD, the band had enclosed a gift for me of some chocolate candy. This didn't sit too well with our postal systems and the chocolate got all over everything. I spent more than three hours cleaning cases and CD's. As far as I could tell, none of the booklets or artwork were stained and I did my best to make sure every cd was free of "crap". The only alternative I had was to send them back and make everyone wait three more weeks. This would have, in turn, cost the band more money to 'eat' the cd's which was something I didn't want to do. I'm trying to help this band, not hurt them!
As I stated in the letter I enclosed with your CD, if you have a problem with the CD, RETURN IT!
I want as many people as possible to hear this stuff and I have orders waiting.
Like I said, I enclosed a letter with each CD explaining the situation. I wish that I would have been contacted personally instead of making this a public issue.
(gets off the soapbox...)
Info on ordering Superior is available at:
http://www.why.net/users/jskewes/jsmusic.html
I urge all of you thinking about ordering this cd to DO IT....!
E-mail me if you have questions.
Jason
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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 20:30:02 -0400 From: Bogie34@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bafu is losing his touch... Message-ID: <960514203002_113680732@emout16.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-05-14 18:41:41 EDT, you write:
<< Bafu Vai
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Man, you must be losing it Bafu!! It took you about 8 posts or so to get an EoJ! Whatsamatta you?
Bogie
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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 20:24:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu> To: FREE Magazine_Offer! <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Just thinking... Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960514201530.3866A-100000@indy17.gclab.missouri.edu>
There has been some talk about a few of the members of DT getting computers, and possibly getting on the list... what do you think would happen if one of the boys sent his request to "ytsejam" instead of "ytsejam-request"?
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 / | Pat Griffin Reality2 Design | | c675311@showme.missouri.edu c675311@cclabs.missouri.edu | h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 / ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 96 20:41:12 PDT From: jpetur@nylink.net (John Petrucci) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: asdf Message-ID: <9605122251.AA15104@nylink.net>
subscribe ytsejam John Petrucci
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Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 10:32:46 -0500 (EST) From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Brain Waves Message-ID: <v01510106adbf621012a2@[137.238.26.12]>
Hello. Looks like I was very scatter-brained (see got the spelling right finally!) Yes, my fingers were just a flying yesterday on the old keyboard. What I was trying to convey is that I had an idea about Pat's choice of DT tunes to be played at his wedding. I suggested Lifting Shadows Off a Dream.
Sorry about the typo, you can either conclude the following:
Babs was distracted while typing yesterday's note at work.
Babs was in a hurry.
Babs has fallen off the wagon and just types like a drunk.
Babs needs to get tested for ADD.
I think that it's the last one, since my boss is always recommending that I do that.
To all the Brian's on the list - sorry for the confusion.
-Babs
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Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 10:37:24 -0500 (EST) From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Twister Jingle Message-ID: <v01510107adbf64118b2c@[137.238.26.12]>
Bafu,
I am totally convinced that you are "over the edge" so to speak.
-Babs
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Date: Wed, 15 May 96 9:47:21 EDT From: cng@tcco.com To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: re: Singers and Success Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+2yRalA@tcx.tcco.com>
>From: Mike Backof <mbacko1@umbc.edu> > >I'd just like to list some bands that excelled with new singers after >already having some success.
Don't forget Black Sabbath (Ronnie James Dio and about 5 or 6 others) Yngwie Malmsteen (does it really matter - except Joe Lynn Turner was cool) Rainbow
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Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 00:33:27 -0700 (MST) From: Uncle.Dave@asu.edu To: ALL THE YTSEJAMERS <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DESPERATE ARIZONA BOY SEEKS DT Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960515002129.15229B-100000@general3.asu.edu>
hey man i realllllllllllllly need to know when the hell dt is coming to the phoenix area anytime in the future??? i don't care if it is 20 years from now---I NEED TO KNOW. i see dt in concert man, it runs through my veins, it's in my thoughts----i even piss dt!!! i have never been to a _real_ concert in my whole life (yes, i know, pathetic).
also, i will be traveling to new hampshire from june 6th to the 10th from arizona. i will be in the new england area for 2 weeks and then i am returning on the 30th of june. if you know of anything related to dt that is happening in those areas i would sure love to know.
i love you all man :~)
"She can turn a drop of water into an ocean" ---Dream Theater
The Music and The Man Behind it:
EYE OF THE VORTEX
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Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 01:23:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu> To: FREE Magazine_Offer! <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: IRC Page.... Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960515011821.4434A-100000@indy17.gclab.missouri.edu>
Well, due to unforseen circumstances, I think the IRC Page will be on hold until the fall. Just check out Steve's if you're really in that big a hurry... the only thing you are missing is my opinion on the IRCers... >:) MUWAHAHAHAHA!!!! I'm sorry this has to be put off, but some things just can't be avoided. BTW, I hate finals. :(
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 / | Pat Griffin Reality2 Design | | c675311@showme.missouri.edu c675311@cclabs.missouri.edu | h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
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Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 00:45:50 -0400 From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1546 Message-ID: <19960515044548.AAA28503@mail.pananet.com>
>> bit more interesting then what you've been so far (stick to those taped >> down "X"s!). > >Taped-down X's? Those are only used when the band is going to be filmed >and the cameras are in fixed positions. >
They do have other uses though... for example Santana marks the spot where he gets the best feedback. BTW, dontcha think Petrucci would do a great version of 'Samba Pa TI'?
>From: Balla Gabor <qgerobag@gold.uni-miskolc.hu> >To: Ytsejam digest <ytsejam@ax.com> >Subject: Listen Anselmo in BKE >Message-ID: <Pine.3.88.9605140931.C40150-0100000@gold.uni-miskolc.hu> > >CSA POTS|| > >After@All in M.A.N at work festival!!!!!! >YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! >The show will be on Saturday(18.maj) at 8:00 pm. >List the songs the band will play that evening. >
HUH??????
>think he could sing like Philip Anselmo of Pantera...well, maybe he could, >but he might really ruin his voice for the night...whereas Philip Anselmo >can growl like a demon and sing high and clear.
uh..well I don't think he can do that very well anymore...he could sing pretty high on CfH, but after that his voice got more and more growly...of course, if he did that stuff on the last CD well I wouldn't know 'cause I haven't heard it. Besides that, I have a video where Pantera plays 'Cold Gin' w/ Skid Row, and good 'ol Phil was trying 'OOOOOOOHHH YEAAAAH!!'s like dat Bach guy and uh... he didn't put out that much...
>I think he meant Bruce replacing Paul Dianno, not Blaze replacing Bruce. >That being the case, I would *definitely* say they survived that particular >transition (at least better than they did when Adrian Smith left. :)) >
And the sad thing is that they could have survived if they hadn't gotten that other guitarist whose name I don't even wanna mention because he sucks so bad.
>From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
> >About Extreme's III Sides, someone mentioned a song cut due to CD limits? >I've got the cassette version, all 81 brilliant minutes.....what was left >off the CD?? >
They left out 'Leave Me Alone' which up to this day is the only released Extreme song which I haven't heard :( Just so you know, Nuno said leaving that song out was like cutting off an arm..
"OK...great, OK...listen Bert,uh...how about this one?"(this one,this one,this one,this one, this one, etc.) Ernie :)
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Date: Wed, 15 May 96 09:42:04 +0100 From: auzzy@tequila.entpe.fr.i (St\iphane Auzilleau) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New Magna Carta signatures / JP "Rock discipline video" Message-ID: <199605151625.JAA06516@mindcrime.ax.com>
Hi jammers,
I was lucky enough to listen to the 2 new bands signed by Magna Carta and I have to say that one of them will interest the DT fan. ALTURA's "Mercy" album is definitely in the vein of Dream Theater, especially musically. The intros, the solos, the riffs, etc... everything definitely reminds me of DT I&W and Awake. After a few listenngs, it is very enjoyable. It has a little touch of Enchant too. The vocals are high vocals, in the line of La Brie's one, but with less ability (could it have been the contrary?). Really impressive and interesting, even if it is what we can name "the ultimate DT clone". IMO, AURA's "Insights" is also very interesting, but a less than ALTURA. I don't know when these albums will be released, but check them. Magna Carta seems to be in the search of its own DT...
Does someone on the jam know if the JP's video is available in Europe? I have a tri-standard VCR, so I am interested by getting a copy, even if it is a US one. Can somebody buy one for me? I will appreciate a lot, and I could offer a promo compilation cd with 2 tracks of DT (Eve and TLF) to this person (in addition of the price for the video + postage and package, of course!!). Thanks in advance.
Stephane Your Majesty - French fanzine dedicated to DT.
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