YTSEJAM Digest 1558
Today's Topics:
1) Memories of Ytsecon II...
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
2) Enough GAS!!!!!!!!!
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
3) surfing
by Robert Andrew Jurado <roburado@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
4) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/17/96 - 23:03:00" <response@ibmmail.com>
5) Jason Becker CD
by Alan Estrada Adler <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
6) 1 more Octopus worth of wins, and the cup is coming home!!!!!!!!
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
7) Double CD
by Alan Estrada Adler <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
8) Yo!
by Alan Estrada Adler <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
9) Metal - Pantera and Metallica - NDTC
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
10) New Metallica Single (NDTC)
by thekid@txdirect.net (Jose Vaquera)
11) Metallica
by Kevin Rios <wilson@specdata.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1556
by QALA32B@prodigy.com (MR GARY C BROWN)
13) In defence of Mojoman
by Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
14) Re: Firsts and Seconds
by hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal)
15) LatM and other stuff
by David Alderman <alde0004@gold.tc.umn.edu>
16) re: new metallica single
by cyclone@securenet.net
17) Threshold album (slight DT content)
by Markus Stahl <stahl@primenet.com>
18) 'Jam 1557, high NTDC quotient
by Mike Pelarski <pelarski@cs.und.nodak.edu>
19) Metallica (NO DTC)
by Evan Thomson <930377@bud.cc.swin.edu.au>
20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1556
by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
21) Lunchbox
by John Hough <srvrip@qualcomm.com>
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 14:18:19 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Memories of Ytsecon II...
Message-ID: <199605172121.OAA24669@bud.indirect.com>
All I can think of is speeding through the icy streets, inches
from death from any angle, with me at the wheel, Jaison John riding
shotgun, soiling his shorts, Paul Cashman and Bafu Vai in the back
cracking jokes and doing their damnedest to find a restaurant that didn't
exist. I can't wait till Ytsecon III! :)
MTFBWY! Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com/mikebahr@dreamt.org
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 17:58:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Enough GAS!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960517174903.1403B-100000@pacman.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Will EVERYBODY please contribute to that damn survey already?
Shannon Hoon sang back-up for Guns'n Roses
Ted Nugent once opened a show for the Supremes
Deep Purple never released a 1987 album called _The House of Blue Light_,
even though I own that particular piece of music.........
Just some ridiculous tidbits from Rolling Stone mags 25th Anniversary
Music Encyclopedia, or something like that......I spent 2+ hours at
Barnes and Nobles perusing that article, a big list of bands with short bios
DT wasn't in it, even tho it was a 1995 thing.....on the bright side,
neither was Vanilla Ice
To Pat (Not sure which one): Haven't seen your FW T-Shirt question
answered yet publicly, so here goes: The quote is the entire lyric
content of the 41-second Title track to the album _No Exit_
The shirt itself is pretty cool, got a lot of notice (but no
recognition) while I was walking through a hospital wearing it
Partha Mukhopadhyay
My Second Favorite Fates Warning Song : *In a Word*, from _No Exit_
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 14:58:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Andrew Jurado <roburado@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: surfing
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605171447.A20463-0100000@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
Hey...whoever it was that was looking for a picture of JP's Jem with the
Majesty symbol...
I think this might be the web site for you:
http://mirinae.yonsei.ac.kr/~hscheon/dream_theater/index.html
-Rob
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Robert Andrew Jurado
roburado@uclink2.berkeley.edu
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 18:01:30 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/17/96 - 23:03:00" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199605172201.PAA05948@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 22:01:24 GMT on 17 May 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 17:27:18 -0600
From: Alan Estrada Adler <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: kvillines@gnn.com, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jason Becker CD
Message-ID: <199605172327.RAA46810@academ01.mty.itesm.mx>
Maybe I can get Jason's CD
BTW do you have any TAb for his work?
I'm really interested in the TEB for Air, that song is great..
I have Marty's Scenes, and Dragon kiss, I'll buy introduccion soon (but some
people told me that it sounded like a christmas soundtrack)
See Ya!
>
>Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 08:59:40
>From: KVillines@gnn.com (Kevin Villines)
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Hard to find CDs?
>Message-ID: <199605041402.KAA03129@mail-e2b-service.gnn.com>
>
>I'm looking for two CDs that have been each been mentioned here a few times.
>They are the CD by Superior and the new Jason Becker CD(His first one was
>amazing, as well as his work with Friedman and some of his David Lee Roth
>material). Any help would be appreciated(I'm in the US). Send E-Mail to
>kvillines@gnn.com if you can provide any information.
>
>
Stay cool...
at least somebody's cool as you
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 18:31:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 1 more Octopus worth of wins, and the cup is coming home!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960517182645.1403E-100000@pacman.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Sorry about waste of space, just had to let it out :)
even though I'm wearing a Florida Panthers hat right now, I refer
whole-heartedly to the Red Wings.....
1-0 Double OT win, cap't Steve Yzerman banishes the Blues!
Avalanche are next to go down, anyone care to argue?
Partha Mukhopadhyay
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 17:30:28 -0600
From: Alan Estrada Adler <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Double CD
Message-ID: <199605172330.RAA54015@academ01.mty.itesm.mx>
I agree with the double CD thing
Stay cool...
at least somebody's cool as you
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 17:30:24 -0600
From: Alan Estrada Adler <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Yo!
Message-ID: <199605172330.RAA33271@academ01.mty.itesm.mx>
Why the Ytse Jam List does not post what I write...
I have sent a few posts in the lasts days and I haven't saw any
maybe they unsubscribed me and I did not know....
What happened?
I have'n recieved any issue either....
I anyone has some good programs you can send them to me in uucode format,
no prob...
See Ya...
at least somebody's cool as you
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at least somebody's cool as you
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 18:41:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Metal - Pantera and Metallica - NDTC
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605171821.m3886-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
There was a time when Metallica represented everything I liked about
metal. Loud, fast, angry, agressive, and impressive guitar work.
What's up with this new stuff? I heard the new Metallica single last
night (the title escapes me at present). It's not that I don't like it
- it's actually quite good - but it's not a Metallica song. I hope the
rest of the album isn't like the single. I'd hate to think I waited 5
years for Metallica to release an AIC disc.
So, after all the rave reviews here (DTC, see? :) I picked up Pantera's
_Trendkill_ today, my first Pantera purchase. I'd heard other stuff
that I didn't like from them, but I needed some new metal. This stuff
is good! Reminiscent of mid-to-recent Anthrax, I think. Big surprise,
since Dimehead Darrell, or whatever his name is this week, soloed on
_Stomp 442_. But, dammit, this is what Metallica used to be about! Why
is Pantera the only band writing this stuff anymore?
The other thing about _Trendkill_ that I think is cool as shit is that
they included URL's to Pantera pages (which I have yet to check out).
This is the first CD I've ever bought that had URLs in it. I remember
buying echolyn and thinking, "Cool! They included an e-mail address!"
You think DT is gonna include some e-mail and web info in the next
release? How do we suggest this to the band?
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The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary
cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn
d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed
http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 17:47:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: thekid@txdirect.net (Jose Vaquera)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New Metallica Single (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199605172247.RAA03494@legend.txdirect.net>
New Metallica played here in San Antonio on the 16th. I'm not too fond of
it. For any other band it might be OK. But for Met, it sounds a little
weak. Sounds a bit sell-outish. Have to wait to hear more off the album,
but I fear they may have reach their peak. At least with some of the fans
that have followed since '83. That's all.
"I know what that is.......WHAT THE HELL IS THAT???????"
"I'm being oppressed here."
"I bet that never happened in Home Ec."
The one, the only, you know him you love him, you can't live without him.
JOE
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 20:20:44 -0400
From: Kevin Rios <wilson@specdata.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Metallica
Message-ID: <199605180020.UAA01575@spec.specdata.com>
Hey everyone, Someone mentioned that the new single hits the radio on May
27. One of the radio stations in NY is already playing it. Haven't heard the
whole song yet, just the end. It's a little different. Gotta wait to hear
the whole thing! Oh, DTC...Got my Birch Hill tapes!
Kevin (WilsonCat)
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 20:39:22, -0500
From: QALA32B@prodigy.com (MR GARY C BROWN)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1556
Message-ID: <199605180039.UAA04592@mime3.prodigy.com>
-- [ From: Gary Brown * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
Hey Everyone,I've been lurking on here for about a couple weeks.For my
first reply,here's a few of my first-just to get the ball rolling.
1'st L.P.=The Beatles:Sgt. Pepper.
1'st Concert=Yes:Relayer Tour.
Music heard while doing it the first
time=Meatloaf:Bat Out Of Hell. 1'st C.D.=Vangelis:Soundtrack to
1492-Still a favorite. 1'st time hearing D.T.=Very
late at night standing in someone's yard,while a friend played I.and W.
telling me about this great new band.
Oh well-It's
my day off.Just hanging in Houston Town.
Chow-G.B.
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 20:55:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: In defence of Mojoman
Message-ID: <199605180355.UAA11869@mindcrime.ax.com>
I think you guys are wrong to attack the Mojoman. Despite all of his
recent flames, he really is a decent guy. He would not hurt a fly, although
he could probably toss evryone on the jam over his shoulder. There is no
need to speculate how someone is in real life as opposed to on the jam. We
are all here to have fun, right? So let's all lighten up until DT, Fates,
Rush or some other prog band releases an album.
I heard the new Metallica single on Q104.3 here in N.Y. I am very
dissappointed. It took me about two minutes to even realize that it was
Metallica. Obviously they are more concerned with record sales than musical
integrity. IMHO they've lost it, there will be no more Damage Inc.
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Mithrandir
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 21:24:08 -0700
From: hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Firsts and Seconds
Message-ID: <199605180424.VAA26286@dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com>
>On Thu, 16 May 1996 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
>
>My first BoJ!!!!!!!!!!
Well, we've covered a lot of "Firsts" but I didn't think this one would
ever come up! Since you brought it up, I got my first BJ when I was
about 14, and it was SOOOOO . . . um, oh, whoops, I see, you said BoJ
. . . sorry!
>>Damn you! OK, it's beginner's luck - betcha can't do it again!
>
>How much? :)
>Regards,
>
>Jon
>*------------*------------------------*----------------*
>| Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | (617)-494-2851 |
>*------------*------------------------*----------------*
>
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Jeez! Glad I didn't REALLY bet you!
Look out Bafu - this guy has definitely got the knack!
But! Still not _one_ _single_ BoJ!
Larry
Just remember . . .
"This is not Reality"
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Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 00:08:56 -0500
From: David Alderman <alde0004@gold.tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LatM and other stuff
Message-ID: <319D5B68.2FC8@gold.tc.umn.edu>
I see that a lot of people are talking about LatM prices. I saw the
Japanese version at Down in the Valley in Golden Valley MN for $25.00.
Happy Birthday to Me!!! Must sleep now so I can party later...
David
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 22:25:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: cyclone@securenet.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: new metallica single
Message-ID: <199605180525.WAA13572@mindcrime.ax.com>
>for all you metallica fans on the jam, you'll be interested in knowing that
the new >metallice single (which i can't rmember the name of right now) will
hit the radiowaves >may 27th.
I heard it yesterday, here in montreal (on CHOM FM)
and it sounds PROGRESSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember when I wrote this a few days ago:
>There should be 14 songs on their new album, probably 3 minute-
>alternative-bullshit (I hope I'm wrong) to go with their new-look.
well, I am totally wrong. the new single is excellent, it's called "until
it sleeps"
and it kinda starts off slowly (ballad-type) then speeds up a bit (only a bit!)
there's also background vocals on the single.
Metallica might open the doors to bands like Dream Theater and Fates Warning
with
this kind of music!!!!!!!!!!!! Great!!!
Elvis Batur
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 23:00:24 -0700
From: Markus Stahl <stahl@primenet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Threshold album (slight DT content)
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960518060024.006a013c@primenet.com>
To the person who metioned the group Threshold, thanks. I almost forgot
that I wanted to get that particular album. I saw them live opening up for
DT when I was in Germany last year. They were pretty good and from what I
can remember they had some really good guitar work. Hopefully I can get the
same deal you did on the Threshold and Ivanhoe.
-mark
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Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 01:47:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mike Pelarski <pelarski@cs.und.nodak.edu>
To: Just Words <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: 'Jam 1557, high NTDC quotient
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960518014202.21637A-100000@agassiz.cas.und.nodak.edu>
>I got it mine at Blockbuster Music for $11.99. I'm pretty sure it was
>tagged wrong though, because the other copies they had were $17.99.
>So I guess I just got lucky!
That is so weird! I got mine for Xmas 3 years ago from my little bro',
and after the fact he told me that exactly the same thing had happened:
one of the 4 discs was marked lower than the rest, but I think it was
~$15 and ~$25.
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>> F U C K T H E F A K E M A I L E R S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Hey....thats My Style......
>
>M O J O D O N ' T N E E D C O F F E E !!!!
Actually, that's W e d n e s d a y S p a c i n g. Did you get your
license from Wednesday? (See alt.religion.kibology for details. I can't
believe I once had time to follow such an oddball newsgroup...)
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>Okay...Okay...What the hell is it with Tori Amos anyway? Why do so many
>jammers mention her?
I'm not sure there's a good answer to that; it just seems that people who
like Dream Theater also like other bands which are progressive, but not
prog metal. Tori Amos and Marillion seem to get top honors for this.
Not being a musician (ahem! Prog fan who's not a musician! We exist!),
I can't say if there is really something in common among the three bands
beyond being progressive music that is very close to being popular in the
mainstream. (Not that the bands themselves are mainstream; their music
just seems to have caught on better than, say, Shadow Gallery.)
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>>Damn you! OK, it's beginner's luck - betcha can't do it again!
>
>How much? :)
>
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*boggle*
Did that really happen? Or has ax.com solved the strong-AI problem,
and written a mailing list program that does this?
(Ommmm... Ommmm... EndOmmmmJammmm... Ommmm...)
--Mike Pelarski
--NP: Meat Loaf, "Blind Before I Stop"
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Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 16:50:55 +1000 (EST)
From: Evan Thomson <930377@bud.cc.swin.edu.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Metallica (NO DTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960518163749.13981A-100000@bud.cc.swin.edu.au>
Hey all,
James and Jason were (are?) here in Australia doing a promo tour, and I
heard the new single on the radio. IMHO it bites... Kirk's solo is
embarassing and really, really, not-with-it so to speak. Seems several
years a go somebody played a practical joke on him and covered his
wah-wah pedal with superglue....because it's still stuck on his foot. :)
Evan
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Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 02:54:04 -0400
From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1556
Message-ID: <19960518065402.AAA9550@mail.pananet.com>
>
>Oh yeah. On the Steve Vai website is says he'll be playing a gig on
>Z-Rock on May 24th. I guess that's a US radio station. Will anyone be
>taping it? And, if so, could someone contact me for a swap of some sort?
>
That concert will be broad cast through the internet...w/ an interview and all
"OK...great, OK...listen Bert,uh...how about this one?"(this one,this
one,this one,this one, this one, etc.)
Ernie :)
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Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 00:41:10 -0700
From: John Hough <srvrip@qualcomm.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Lunchbox
Message-ID: <199605180741.AAA15161@tyler.qualcomm.com>
>First lunchbox: Scooby-Doo. Metal of course. Anyone own the KISS one?
>
Yeah I got one! Got it at Big Bear in 1985!!! What, 10 years after it
came out?? I flipped when I saw it! Cost me all of $5 brand new!!!
John Hough - srvrip@qualcomm.com
G O P A D R E S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Record: W - 26 L - 15 1st Place
Tony Gwynn watch for 7th batting title:
.378 (05/14/96)
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