YTSEJAM Digest 1570
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/22/96 - 08:02:19" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) Metal vocals
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
3) opening bands...
by "Chase L. Eschauzier" <clesc@conncoll.edu>
4) Death
by Charles D Harrison <cdh191@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
5) Re: G.A.S. Update
by "Steven C. Young" <syoung@primenet.com>
6)
by
7) Metallica (non-DT)
by "Richard Karsmakers" <r.c.karsmakers@stud.let.ruu.nl>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1568
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
9) Kevin Gilbert
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
10) Hit the Lights
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
11) Re: Zonder, Hoglan...
by Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
12) Re: Fresno
by Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
13) Jeremy Hyde: fuck off!
by akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
14) Singers and Death
by akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
15)
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16) Seth's a book!
by akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
17) tasteless joke flame
by NUPRIN <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
18) JPM100
by rwarren@netlnx.com
19) late on those jams
by akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 03:00:48 EDT
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Date: Wed, 22 May 96 09:19:15 +0200
From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de
Subject: Metal vocals
Message-ID: <9605220719.AA00212@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi all
let's get this straight. Metal vocalists (especially death/thrash/hardcore) are
also instrumentalists who make a contribution to the music. They don't have to
be singers. Don't believe me: check out the cover of 'Chaos AD' by Sepultura -
Max is listed as 'throat', not singer or vocalist. These guys throw in a lot
to the feel and atmosphere of the music and it works well in most cases, because
they aren't pretending that they can sing - otherwise you end up looking a
complete jerk like that new guy from Iron Maiden (yuk IMHO).
Just off to get my head shaved: who gives a flying fuck about hair, colour of
leather jackets, brand of underwear and deodorant? Let the music do the talking.
If hair is sooo important to play/like prog metal, how come Damon likes Dream
Theater when he's never seen the guys?
If taking a long time to get a new album out (metallica=5 years) means selling
out, then Dream Theater had better hurry up...
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop
(nga@software-ag.de)
Currently playing: Pantera - The Great Southern Trendkill
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 03:40:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Chase L. Eschauzier" <clesc@conncoll.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: opening bands...
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605220303.C27873-0100000@dsys.cc.conncoll.edu>
This has maybe been mentioned, but probably deserves repeating. Did
anyone see DT at the El 'n Gee in New London in December. "Pleasure
Crush" has got to be the worst band I have ever heard. It has turned
into an inside joke with my friends at school-when ever anyone does
something stupid or one of us thinks something is lame, all we say is
Pleasure Crush. Unbelievable.
c l e s c @ c o n n c o l l . e d u
"CIRCLE OF FIRE MY BAPTISM OF JOY AT AN END IT SEEMS.
THE SEVENTH LAMB SLAIN, THE BOOK OF LIFE OPENS BEFORE ME.
BUT I WILL PRAY FOR YOU, AND SOMEDAY I MAY RETURN.
DON'T YOU CRY FOR ME, BEYOND IS WHERE I LEARN."
chase l. eschauzier connecticut college class of 1997
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 02:45:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: Charles D Harrison <cdh191@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
To: Dream Theater Listserve <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Death
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605220238.A14051-0100000@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
I am really happy to see Death so much in the Yste-Posts. This is a band
that IMHO is really skilled in what they do. Also IMHO, Gene Hoglan (my
favorite drummer and yes I am a drummer so I know my drums!) could eat MP
for lunch and Steve DiGiorgio and Myung in a bass contest would be the
equivalent of utopia. I give the edge to SD, though. I know very
little about bass, but I DO know that there are sounds that come out of
SD's bass that make me shake my head. And Hoglan is f**kin'
incredible! Don't worry, DT is my fav. band. I can see how some cannot get
into Chuck's voice, but if you are a trained Death metal fan, you learn to
tune him out =). I don't own Symbolic because I heard that SD was not on
it, but if you don't believe in the skills of the aforementioned music
gods give INDIVIDUAL THOUGHT PATTERNS a try. People like the 'jammers,
prog fans that appreciate complex, thoughtful music, WILL like this one,
I PROMISE! (if you can tune out Chuck; his songwriting is top-notch,
though) IMHO, you can't be the innovators of a music as complex as Death
Metal without being gods yourself. Human is pretty good, too. No Hoglan,
though. I am curious if any 'jammers have rocked to the bands Sadus, Cynic,
or Dark Angel. (Death's roots) If so, e-mail me!
Charlie (cdh191@nwu.edu)
(The Ytse-Rook)
P.S. Death fans: Imagine a Death/DT tour! WDADU=When Dream and Death Unite!
P.P.S. Sorry for resurrecting the 'what is a musician' thread. I just
wanted to know if the 'jammers thought singers were musicians. Plus IMHO
there was not much going on on the 'Jam.
P.P.P.S. Here's a new thread: Do you 'jammers think that JL looks like
Fabio? IMHO I think that he does.
YKYADTF: if you're trained to include IMHO for everything that could
even slightly be considered subjective.
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 00:44:06 -0700
From: "Steven C. Young" <syoung@primenet.com>
To: "'YtseJam Digest'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: G.A.S. Update
Message-ID: <01BB4778.07C1A740@ip140.tus.primenet.com>
G.A.S. UPDATE!!!
We are now more than halfway through the month of May, and the number of
G.A.S. participants has reached 70! We've lost a little momentum with
respect to the goal of 100 'jammers. For those of you who haven't yet
participated, I would greatly appreciate your joining forces in this, as I
find it interesting to know where the general interest of the YtseJam as a
whole lies. Top 10 lists (that can include DT) can be E-mailed to:
and will be received until May 31st, at 11:59pm. Lists will be tallied and
a non-DT band/artist will be crowned on June 1st (my wife's birthday), and
complete results (ALL bands/artists received and number of votes) will be
posted on or about that day.
ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!:
ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!:
ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!:
I STILL need to hear from BOGIE and ADAM COOK - you guys only left me five
bands to work with - help!
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Current Top 5 (non-DT) as of 5/21/96, out of 212 bands/artists received:
1) Rush (41 votes) -> It's August for their next LP - "Test for Echo"!!!
2) Queensryche (40)
3) Fates Warning (29)
4) Metallica (20) -> New CD out in 2 weeks!!!
5) King's X (16) -> New CD out TODAY!!! (Anyone pick it up yet? Could one
of you 16 KX fans E-mail me their critique on the disc? I'm going to buy it
anyway - I just want to know what to expect. I saw it today, but I ain't
got the cash at the moment - it's killin' me, too - I was kind of
disappointed to see the pic on the back of the CD: Doug, Ty AND Jerry have
done away with the long hair - that really bothered me and I don't know
why.)
*** Yes, Extreme, Marillion, Savatage, and Shadow Gallery are also strong
contenders for a spot in the Top 5. Others with 10 or more votes: Tori
Amos, Galactic Cowboys, and Van Halen.
I guess I spoke too soon on the RUSH/QR battle - it has heated up again and
they are back to within one vote - it might be a close one after all
10 days left before the deadline - we're running out of time - We're still
shooting for 100 participants and we still lack 30 (three a day).
So, get out and vote, you guys.
C'mon, it'll be fun!
Muchos thankos to those who have played the game already - you guys rule.
Steve from Tucson
syoung@primenet.com
"There's not a man, woman or child alive that doesn't enjoy a lovely
beverage." - David Letterman
*** Also, get ready for an added feature to the G.A.S. that should be
pretty interesting - we're going to find out who the most common and most
unique 'Jammers are. Stay tuned for details.
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 09:55:56 -0600 (CST)
From: "Richard Karsmakers" <r.c.karsmakers@stud.let.ruu.nl>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Metallica (non-DT)
Message-ID: <35759.r.c.karsmakers@stud.let.ruu.nl>
Yes, I know I should have brought this onto the Metallica list, but I am no
longer a member of that because I felt the people on it were to crude, too
stupid. So here is some news.
In the Netherlands, three different CD singles were released of "Until it
Sleeps". One is a 2-track cardboard thing with "2x4" on it as well (live
Donington 1995). The second is a flat jewelbox with three tracks - title
track, "2x4" live and a demo version of the title track. The third is a
regular jewelbox with three tracks. The second track is a "Kill/Ride Medlez"
(live Donington '95) and the third is "Until it Sleeps (Herman Melville
Remix". This last song is a hardcore kind of house remix by Moby. I have a
hard time liking it, but I am determined to have prejudices. I like the
title song, but "2x4" is a bit better. Still, I think I'd like the new album
once it's out. The thing I hate most is that they did *three* CD singles,
damn it!
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 01:04:58 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1568
Message-ID: <199605220804.BAA00521@cats.ucsc.edu>
>*** Reply to note of 05/21/96 05:03
>Chris Oates...you're wrong!!! Metallica didn't open the door for grunge at
>all!! The Nirvana and Pearl Jam discs came out and were IMMEDIATELY popular in
>1990....about 8 months BEFORE the black album cam out (which was in June of
>1991). The black album did nothing for anyone! In fact, it was one of the last
>metal albums to hit the charts really hard before alternative flourished
>(another late biggie was "Slave to the Grind" by the Skids). The Black album
>was about nothing but radio play! "Nothing Else Matters" is a crap ballad
>compared to "Fade to Black".....on all levels. The Black album will be
>remembered for its radio hits, how many copies it sold and legitimizing a
>Grammy -- because at least as many people heard that album as people who heard
>of REM. Corporate rock finally got to measure Metallica.
>
>Steve
>
Sorry, but revisionist history does not work on me. the copyright date on
all 3 albums (Black, Ten and Nevermind) is 1991. Check it. I did. And, I
distinctly remember, when Nirvana and Pearl Jam were first played (DJ:
"Here'a new group!" sort of thing) thinking "Hm. Now that Metallica's new
album is popular, heavier groups are getting airplay." Even if the other
ones beat Metallica by a few months (at most) they got NO airplay until
AFTER the black album. The Black album was about Metallica deciding that
they didn't have to be these angst-filled teenagers anymore.
__ /\ __ +-------------------------------------+
__\/__\/__ | ~Chris |-+
\_||_/ | For a boring homepage, web to: | |
/__||__\ | http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/ | |
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 04:09:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Kevin Gilbert
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605220441.H23158-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
After reading what Airdance so eloquently wrote about her friend Kevin
Gilbert, I thought I'd hit the web to see what I could see. She was
right - this guy will be missed. Besides co-writing a couple of Sheryl
Crow's big radio hits (big deal, right?), he also appeared on Magna
Carta's Yes and Genesis tributes. There's a lot more, too. I can see
why the band might have selected him. To see for yourself, check out:
http://w3.eponymous.com/ender/fun/kg/kg.html
Airdance, I wish I knew what we could do to help you through this awful
period. Our hearts and thoughts are with you.
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The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary
cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn
d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed
http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 01:15:50 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hit the Lights
Message-ID: <199605220815.BAA01125@cats.ucsc.edu>
What law says it's stupid? The same law that says that the entire Kill Em
All album is lame, which is why I've (maybe) managed to sit through it once.
It's got about as much intelligence behind it as your average grunge band by
today's standards.
To someone else: Faith No More was out before grunge hit. Epic had already
been a hit for a while when I saw them as one of the opening bands for
Metallica on the Day on the Green show (also had Soundgarden and
Queensryche) So they are definitely a first generation or pre-grunge band.
I don't even think they sound grungy at all. But, I only own Angel Dust, a
fantastic album.
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 02:39:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Zonder, Hoglan...
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605220209.A29180-0100000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
On Sun, 19 May 1996 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> I dunno Bafu...drums are the ONLY instruments I carry an extensive
> knowledge of...so, I can't say which member of DT is the best at his
> instrument, but I can say there are many drummers that are as good as, or
> better than Mike Portnoy IN THEIR RESPECTIVE STYLES. i.e., Dennis Chambers
Agreed.
> (funk) and Mark Zonder. IMO, Mike and Mark are two completely different
> types of drummers. I doubt Mike could keep up with Mark's super-complex
> ride/hi-hat work, while Mark might not be able to keep up with Mike's sheer
> intensity. But, there are ALSO drummers who can take both of those styles
Zonder...there's another drummer who gets a fair amount of hype. The
only album I've heard by him is "Parallels," and to be honest, I was
disappointed by it. His cymbal-work is pretty tight and I really like
what he does with them, but I wouldn't call it "super-complex". It's
fairly easy to pick apart what he's doing (and that's what disappointed
me, BTW).
> and combine them to make something completely different. SIMON PHILLIPS, for
> instance. It's hard to describe what he does, but to give you an idea, one
> particular polyrhythm that he played actually made me piss my pants. If
> anyone wants me to explain it, I'll E-Mail it privately. :-) Simon also adds
Was he playing three rhythms at the same time or something:)?
> another dimension to his playing, by using a cool finger technique. He
> plays triple strokes (RRRLLL) as fast as I can play finger strokes. And, he
> is a seriously good double kick player. Another amazing drummer is Gene
> Hoglan (of Death). He is just too fast. And NO, his beats are not all
> double kick blast beats. He does seriously complicated beats using two ride
> cymbals. Amazing. That is one drummer that has explored nearly every
> possible way to use double kicks.
TWO ride cymbals? Whew, glad to hear it, that explains a lot:). Anyway,
you're right about Hoglan, he is definitely into the double-bass thing.
Listening to "Symbolic", sometimes I think he's too much into it. He is
clearly capable of doing a lot with other parts of his set, but I get the
feeling he's just more interested in his bass drums. Some of his tom
fills (like in the guitar solo for the 2nd track, and one in the first
few seconds of the last track) are so rapid and so smoothly-executed they
actually reminded me of Weckl (don't know why, maybe it was just the way
the drums sounded). I like his work, I just wish he'd mix it up a bit
more; I'd love to hear what he sounds like then.
Enough babbling, how about some DTC: No new album till February?
Fuck!!!!!
Younis Hilal
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 02:51:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Fresno
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605220206.B29180-0100000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
On Sun, 19 May 1996 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> First of all I live in Fresno and I have to agree with Randall it's not that
> bad. Everybody puts it down but it's not a bad place to live.
All right!!!!!! Another SJ Valley resident!!!!
Younis Hilal
(From Bakersfield, BTW; 4 country stations on the FM band. 'Nuff said.)
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 12:35:20 +0100
From: akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jeremy Hyde: fuck off!
Message-ID: <adc8aa7f00021004337f@[128.178.99.18]>
Jeremy Hyde answered Brian Holst's arastar/ax.com enquiry as follows:
>Boy if this lame sap can get an EOJ, anyone can!!!!
>Tee-hee-hee-hee!!!
>Maybe I'm sick, but I actually feel sorry for this guy, he digs DT so he
>can't be as stupid as this post showed us!!!
So that's how we should from now on answer people who ask questions and
enquire on the jam?
Jeremy, if you damn well know everything, what the fuck are you doing on
the jam? If ya can't stand people asking questions that don't meet your
incredible intelligence, just fuck off, right? Hope one day you come up
with a question and get real flamed up the ass for it!!
And hey, what does being a DT fan have to do with stupidity? If it had
something to do, you should unsub IMMEDIATELY.
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Dave King (somewhere in Switzerland)
"Holding on is easier than letting go"
Fates Warning
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 13:00:04 +0100
From: akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Singers and Death
Message-ID: <adc8ae94020210042951@[128.178.99.18]>
So let's talk about something outside Metallicrap. I'm a lead
singer/bassist and I've been for more than 6 years now, done a CD etc. etc
(I know you don't care). I believe that whatever your style, your voice is
an instrument as long as you think of it as an instrument, i.e. you take
care of it and are aware of parts of your body that make the singing
actually possible and non-random. If you don't care about how you sing, if
you don't try to shape your voice, whatever the style, then you should not
consider yourself as making use of an instrument.
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Concerning the "Death vs. Sepultura-like bands" argument, it's just a
matter of taste. I love DT and I love Death. I love Death not for the
lyrics, but for the technical/melodic part of their music. Comparing to DT,
the lyrics are effectively sub-standard, but they're also less out front .
BTW, apparently Death has split up and Chuck has already recorded and
issued a new album under the name "control Denied". Can anyone help me with
this?
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Dave King (somewhere in Switzerland)
"Holding on is easier than letting go"
Fates Warning
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 13:16:48 +0100
From: akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Seth's a book!
Message-ID: <adc8b5b403021004d5ae@[128.178.99.18]>
>BY the same token, Death's
>lyrics are not original:
>
>Symbolic=Ignorance and Innocence (Overkill)
>Zero Tolerance=New Breed (Fear Factory)
>Empty Words=One Child (Savatage)
>1,000 Eyes=1984 (Orwell)
>Without judgement=Captive Honour (Megadeth)
>Crystal Mountain=Pisschrist (Fear Factory), The God that Failed (Metallica)
>Misanthrope=Reckoning Day (Megadeth)
>Perennial Quest=Tomorrow, Tomorrow (Annie)
>
>There are other comparisons of course.
I suppose you're proud of making some point here, right?
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Dave King (somewhere in Switzerland)
"Holding on is easier than letting go"
Fates Warning
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 07:54:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: NUPRIN <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: tasteless joke flame
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.960522075212.16314A-100000@wichita.fn.net>
To Dan who passed the joke:
> Anyway, here is a tasteless joke I heard yesterday that I can't help but
> laugh at:
> "For such a cheap airline, they sure serve great food"-An alligator in
> the everglades.
> Sorry,
> -Dan
I know you didn't mean anything by it, but you shouldn't have even
dignified that fucking joke by spreading it around. Did you ever think
that someone on the Jam might have had relatives on that flight...?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
John Nguyen
(aka NUPRIN)
musican, artist, programmer, lover
http://www.feist.com/~nuprin
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"...all I want is to have my peace of mind..."
-- Boston
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 06:54:17 -0500
From: rwarren@netlnx.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: JPM100
Message-ID: <199605221154.GAA19107@nl1.netlnx.com>
I have never seen or played the original JPM100. I have spoken with every
Ibanez dealer in Memphis, TN and 4 mail order houses around the country and
none of them have ever had one nor can they get one since the JPM100 was a
limited edition of 100. However, on May 10, 1996 I received my JPM100P2 via
UPS. This guitar is identical to the JPM100 except the guitar features the
new color scheme (which is on one of the guitars in the JP instructional
video). It even came with an autographed certificate of authenticity
identical to the one with the JPM100. I absolutely love this guitar but I
have always been a fan of the Ibanez guitars based on the JEM series. I had
to order the guitar from Sam Ash Music in New York. They had two coming and
I got one of them. The price was $1050.00 plus $75.00 for the case.
Shipping came out to be about $15.00. The number for Sam Ash is
(800)4SA-MASH. Ask for Mike Ruzzo (spelling?) and tell him Richard in
Memphis sent you.
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 15:13:40 +0100
From: akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: late on those jams
Message-ID: <adc8cfbf00021004f453@[128.178.99.18]>
>Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 16:19:29 -0700
>From: hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal)
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Tokin' - I mean, Takin' It All in Stride
>Message-ID: <199605212319.QAA29104@dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com>
>
>A little behind on your 'jams, Dave? This has been covered ad nauseum
>on the last 7 or 8 episodes. I'm still smoldering from the responses I
>got. Guess I was a little pissy . . . but I've changed my attitude
>(sphhhhhhffftt . . . (inhales deeply) (holds it in) ahhhhhhhh (exhales)
>ah, 'lumbo . . .)
> Anyway, sorry
>for the impressions I imparted on your Metallica-lovin' minds (not a
>put-down, really). Also sorry that my name appears in my mail header
>:^) I'm changing it to (drum roll) . . . Biafra Satriani! You like?
>No relation to Bafu Vai, by the way.
>
It seems I can't get to clean these jams it time. I do a whole bunch every
3-4 days, That's the reason you don't hear from me for 7-8 jams then I come
down cluttering one with my crap.
I don't like Metallica, but I condone (no, not condom) it being talked on
the jam, that's all.
BTW, what's the problem with your name, anyway?
And...
>
>Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 17:18:11 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Echolyn
>Message-ID: <199605220018.RAA18271@mindcrime.ax.com>
>Hating the oppressive heat!!!!!!
Well, we're freezing our asses here in Switzerland!!!!!
Later,
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Dave King (somewhere in Switzerland)
"Holding on is easier than letting go"
Fates Warning
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