YTSEJAM Digest 1572
Today's Topics:
1) Rabin, Asia, Candlebox (NDTC)
by "Ryan Eschauzier '97" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
2) to marillion fans
by "Ryan Eschauzier '97" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
3) Re: Jeremy Hyde: fuck off!
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
4) echolyn "My Dear Wormwood"
by Walter S Semerenko <wss88274@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
5) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/22/96 - 21:00:36" <response@ibmmail.com>
6) more on candlebox
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
7) The Mirror/talk box
by Robert Andrew Jurado <roburado@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
8) FNM ....
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
9) Ytsejammer pictures
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
10) JP's tone, singer's tone, musician thread (DIE DIE DIE! :)
by Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org>
11) da winds of change
by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
12) MLA Miasma
by Gilbert Thetgyi <102346.2730@CompuServe.COM>
13) Faith No More.
by Mike <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
14) PMU, DT, SubCon, PR, typos, Cows, Candlebox, musicians, sinners, and a partridge in a pear tree.
by Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org>
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 15:50:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ryan Eschauzier '97" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rabin, Asia, Candlebox (NDTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605221504.B12092-0100000@dsys.cc.conncoll.edu>
> - Trevor Rabin, Can't Look Away. I won't make fun of Trevor Rabin ever
> again!!! He's an incredible guitar/keys/bass player and singer too!
I totally agree. Does anyone have the old Rabbit or any other Trevor
albums beside "Can't Look Away."
> - Asia, Aqua. Very good, although not the Asia I'm used to. Besides, they
> have an Al (Pitrelli) AND a Steve (Howe) playing guitar in this lineup. ;)
You can barely hear Steve Howe on that album and some of it is weak, has
anyone heard of the lead singer, John Payne? I know I have heard him
before, but I can't remember what.
> I like Candlebox a great deal. Klett is one of the better guitarist in
> "alternative rock" (in quotes b/c I dont like the term). Anyway, their new
> record "Lucy" isnt horrible, but it was a let down. Their first record is the
> one to get. Im hopefully going to see them at Malibu on June 11th. Cant wait.
Does anyone know if Candlebox is playing in the New England area this
summer? I would love to see them...I guess I was one of the few who
enjoyed them on the Counterparts tour.
> Subject: Echolyn >
> I just received my copy of Echolyn's "Suffocating the Bloom", and I
> must say I am impressed. Although the production is not quite up to "As the
> world" It is still quite good. I must recomend this album to any Echolyn
> fan. It is a little more progressive than ATW. Really kickin!!!!
Again, I am in full agreement. Actually I thought the production was
fabulous. I copied them both from a friend, and they sound awesome!
Y A N D E R S O N B R U F O R D W A K E M A N H O W E S Q U I R E Y
Grecian galleons, The Sack of Troy, to the Gardens of Babylon
E A Play of millions roared along E
The gigantic dreams of Alexander the Great
S Civil wars where brothers fought and killed their friendship in hate S
R A B I N M O R A Z W H I T E K A Y E B A N K S D O W N E S H O R N
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rdesc@conncoll.edu Ryan Eschauzier '97 Connecticut College (860) 439-4085
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 15:54:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ryan Eschauzier '97" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: to marillion fans
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605221538.C12092-0100000@dsys.cc.conncoll.edu>
okay, fellow marillion fans-I think it would definately cool if Marillion
was in this top 10 G.A.S. thing-so vote!
this is the guy's email:
syoung@primenet.com
Y A N D E R S O N B R U F O R D W A K E M A N H O W E S Q U I R E Y
Grecian galleons, The Sack of Troy, to the Gardens of Babylon
E A Play of millions roared along E
The gigantic dreams of Alexander the Great
S Civil wars where brothers fought and killed their friendship in hate S
R A B I N M O R A Z W H I T E K A Y E B A N K S D O W N E S H O R N
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rdesc@conncoll.edu Ryan Eschauzier '97 Connecticut College (860) 439-4085
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 21:05:09 +0100
From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Jeremy Hyde: fuck off!
Message-ID: <9605222005.AA09170@barren.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
D-Man wrote:
> Whoa, wait, hang on. *The* Jeremy Hyde? The bad trade guy aka Susan
> Moscardini? Did anyone else catch this? Am I thinking of the wrong person?
That was Jeremy Haynes, wasn't it? Hmmmm . . . maybe he's changed his name
again . . . to Chris Merlo :-)
Graham B.
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 15:54:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Walter S Semerenko <wss88274@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: echolyn "My Dear Wormwood"
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.960522154621.15706B-100000@Pegasus>
> This is a trivia question for any Echolyn fan:
> What is the song "My Dear Wormwood" about? Anybody know?
According to Brett: "Inspired by 'The Screwtape Letters" by C.S. Lewis.
The story is about a demon named Screwtape and his correspondence to his
nephew (a lesser demon) Wormwood. Wormwood's duty is to sway his human
patient's soul away from heavenly salvation. If he fails he must pay the
price to his uncle and the infernal police."
--global guide to as the world
Also, did anybody catch the Screwtape book in U2's video on the Batman
Forever soundtrack? It's in there.
Walter.
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 15:59:05 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/22/96 - 21:00:36" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 15:04:11 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: more on candlebox
Message-ID: <31A3733B.2618@dreamt.org>
>I like Candlebox a great deal. Klett is one of the better guitarist in
>"alternative rock" (in quotes b/c I dont like the term). Anyway, their
>new record "Lucy" isnt horrible, but it was a let down. Their first
>record is the one to get. Im hopefully going to see them at Malibu on
>June 11th. Cant wait.
you dont even really need to use the term alternative for candlebox, as
far as i can see theyre a rock band. theyre one of the only ones to
come out past 92/93 but theyre rock all the way, theyve just got that
sound... i think they get tagged alternative because theyre from
seattle... but they dont have that cottony crap alternative guitar
sound, the bass player is kickin', and Klett can whip out some great
solos. in fact, i think i'm gonna throw lucy on again right now =)
people say its a let down, but i really got into this one. i still like
that first one more, but its as the saying goes..
"You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to
do your next."
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 13:12:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Andrew Jurado <roburado@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The Mirror/talk box
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605221330.A15033-0100000@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
Hey jammers,
Here's my little something for today.
1. Is it me or is the little girl on the cover of I&W holding a miniature
version of the mirror on the cover of Awake?
2. Is it me or is JP using a talk box at about 11:54 (don't quote me on
the time) of ACoS?
-Rob
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Robert Andrew Jurado
roburado@uclink2.berkeley.edu
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"ga-ga-ga-ga-ga-GUNK-ga-ka-ga-KOW-ga-KOW..."
-John Petrucci in Metropolis Part I
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 16:31:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FNM ....
Message-ID: <199605222031.QAA04698@wicked.stigmata.org>
Well, since they have been brought up alot as of late, I just checked the
dates on their first tape (well, as far as I know) We Care Alot. It is
copyrighted 1985 and the p with the circle around it (what is that anyways?)
1987. So, I think they beat the whole grunge scene by just a bit :)
Skadz
-- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | Ryan P Skadberg skadz@mindstorm.com | | s y s t e m . a d m i n i s t r a t o r / w e b . d e v e l o p e r | | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz/ http://www.dreamt.org/ | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ \ "And every prayer we pray at night has somehow lost its meaning" / \ "Dead Winter Dead" - Savatage / +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+------------------------------
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 16:49:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Ytsejammer pictures Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960522164218.21884C-100000@bdmserver>
I was doing some surfing and came across a page that has pictures of some of the jammers who IRC. It is at http://www.duke.edu/~mjk5/dajam.html
Talk about totally different pictures of what you actually think a person looks like.
Ben Laussade looks like your typical skinhead. Looks like he has lots of energy so I guess it is good that he is a drummer.
Alternacrap, er I mean D-Man (just joking)-nice goatee...
Skadz has long hair and doesn't have the looks of your typical computer nerd.
Paul Cashman just looks totally different from what I pictured...
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| |The Baltimore Orioles-The team to beat in 1996!!!!!!! | Go DC United! | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 16:49:13 -0300 From: Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: JP's tone, singer's tone, musician thread (DIE DIE DIE! :) Message-ID: <31A36FB9.F46@dreamt.org>
> From: cng@tcco.com > Subject: JP's sound on Change of Seasons > > There is one part in "Change of Seasons" that blows me away every time I hear > it. John Petrucci switches to this tone that sounds like Joe Satriani's > "Surfing...". Can someone tell me how he gets that sound? I've played around > with the flanger and compression on my effects unit but it doesn't sound > right.
Hi, I'm not sure which part you're talking about, but it could be a phaser... If you tell me the time (i.e. mm:ss) where that part starts I might be able to help you out...
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> From: Charles D Harrison <cdh191@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> > Subject: Start the flame wars! > > I made the mistake of telling my girlfriend, who double majors in flute > and voice, that Dt only has 4 musicians. She said, no you mean 5, and I > said, no 4, b/c JL only sings. Whoops. No flaming please, b/c IMO JL is > my favorite singer, but my girlfriend says that the voice is an
Oh yeah? Well IMO he's not your favorite singer. :)
> instrument. So I said, so everybody is a musician? She said no, b/c not > everyone can sing. But who's to say who can sing, right? I worship JL, > for example, but my roommate thinks that he sounds like a whiny baby. For
That USUALLY comes from non-musicians... Not liking someone's guitar tone or voice or SNARE SOUND :) or whatever... For example, I played Satch's Surfing w/the Alien for a non-musician friend, and he couldn't stand the guitar tone... That's an extreme example, tho... Usually it happens w/vocals. JL and Geddy Lee are perfect examples. I won't elaborate because I'm sure most of you have experienced this first-hand (if you haven't played DT for a friend, please do so. Failure to comply means you suck. That or you have no friends because you spend all your time trying to catch up on your Jams... Such a silly whim... :).
> another bad example, I said to her what about Death metal singers and their > growls, and she said that's not singing so their singers aren't musicians. I > say B/S b/c it takes talent to do that (IMO). So my question to the 'jammers > (so we can talk about anything other than Metallica) is Are singers musicians? > and Are Death Metal singers musicians?
Please, PLEASE don't start this again. I'll admit I eventually contributed to this thread last time it came up (I was on the pro-butt side... :) but it died. Let it rest in peace. Please? :)
> P.S. I hope that this will pick up the Ytse-Posts.
Yes, it prob'ly will, but not in a way you'd like... :)
Later, -That DMC Guy-
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Daniel McCormack dmc@dreamt.org http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/dan.html
"All the dead greenery, sacrificed for you and me I'm the one who cares for them - I'm a Carnatarian" - Chris Merlo (D-Man), Carnatarian, Polio Dog
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-" - General John Sedgewick, Union Commander in the Civil War, speaking his last words.
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 16:59:50 -0400 From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: da winds of change Message-ID: <19960522205933.AAA25752@mail.pananet.com>
>Silverchair, Hole, Bush, Oasis, Letters to Cleo, Sponge, Wax, Filter, Crash Test >Dummies, Ween, Presidents, Toadies, CIV, Candlebox, Korn, KMFDM, White Zombie, >Foo Fighters, Marilyn Manson, Dink, Faith No More, The Cranberries, Frente, >Green Day, Blind Melon, Rancid... >
I wouldn't stick FNM in there at all. 'Epic' was a big hit b4 Nirvana was even a pimple in MTV's ass (I've always liked that phrase, so I just had to use it)... Besides that I totally agree w/ you,..I've posted about it too. Also take in mind there was a glam movement in the early 70's, followed by punk in the later 70's... and remember what bands became rather popular during thes glam movements? That's right, progressive bands. I wasn't alive in the early 70's but I'm aware that many prog bands reached a certain amount of success during that time... and the 80's brought us both Rush's and Yes's big hits...(Tom Sawyer and Owner of a Lonely Heart). Catch my drift? I doubt DT will ever be the top selling artists, but I'm sure in one of their next couple of CD's they'll eventually have ONE single that'll hit really big, thus giving them the popularity they deserve.
"OK...great, OK...listen Bert,uh...how about this one?"(this one,this one,this one,this one, this one, etc.) Ernie :) AVOID THE NOID!
Levadura,levadura. Dame musculatura. DURA! DURA!
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Date: 22 May 96 17:08:23 EDT From: Gilbert Thetgyi <102346.2730@CompuServe.COM> To: dt <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: MLA Miasma Message-ID: <960522210823_102346.2730_HHQ59-1@CompuServe.COM>
>>I say my hell is this closet I'm stuck inside. >>Can't see the light. >>And my heaven is a nice house in the sky. >>Got central heating and I'm all right... >>Big "Little Feet" Ben "Little Hands" Laussade >>Little baybay! > >"That's...bad as shit!"
If you're going to use someone else's lyrics, at least have the decency to cite them. All of the DMB fans know that the passage is from "So Much To Say", from the album "Crash". I'm not asking for MLA notation, but at least give credit where it's due. I'm sure the majority of 'Jammers aren't DMB fans, so they wouldn't recognize the song reference. Some may even think that you actually came up with it, when in fact you didn't. Plagiarism isn't a good thing.
Buy "Ear Candy",
G. Jack Thetgyi
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 17:10:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Faith No More. Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960522170637.21234A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Hey all. Syrinx here.
To all of you, BLAH!@ I'm a huge Faith No More fan (actually, they're No. 3 on my all time favorite bands...guess what No. 1 and No. 2 are???), and they're increadible. I find Angel Dust (you know, the one AFTER epic? most of you don't) to be one of the greatest albums of the 1990's. I know that's a difficult statement to make, but i'll make it with pride. I rank it up there with Pearl Jam's "ten" anyday. Patton is a god.
So, i got the new King's X and Soundgarden stuff today. Phear me. Very good stuff. "Ear Candy" sounds like a return to the earlier King's X work. If you're expecting Dogman, Part 2....you'll be disappointed, but if you're looking for the King's X we all know and love...you'll like it. I'm listening to the new Soundgarden as i write this. I like. Alot. it's a departure from "Superunknown", and Chris's writing has improved greatly. Definate pickup for you guys.
Ok. Time to go. Maybe Ryan will give me a EoJ? :)
------------------------------------- Michael B. Ostrich musical advisor/consultant syrinx@dreamt.org syrinx@voicenet.com syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu ..and a partridge in a pear tree.
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Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 17:19:01 -0300 From: Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: PMU, DT, SubCon, PR, typos, Cows, Candlebox, musicians, sinners, and a partridge in a pear tree. Message-ID: <31A376B5.5E4A@dreamt.org>
> From: miguel@netup.cl (Miguel Farah) > Subject: Problem with I&W CD... > > Hi. I have purchased the I&W CD, and have this little thing that bothers > me: the first track (_Pull Me Under_) ends too abruptly, as if the last > 10 seconds or so of the track were missing. Is this due to a defective > CD (so only my copy is wrong), a defect in factory (so every copy is > wrong) or is it intentional?
Yep, it's intentional. I used to think they ran out of space on the CD... :)
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> From: Cliff & Pam Wheaton <cwheaton@micron.net> > Subject: stuff > > DT Rules!!! I'm waiting patiently for the new album. I just met someone here in
Whoa, what a coincidence... I think so too! Cool. You meet DT fans in the strangest places... :)
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> From: "Brian Anderson" <anderson@frontiernet.net> > Subject: fan club and stuff > > and GC's Machine Fish. I pretty much cleared out their DT section.
Is that good or bad?
> As some of you know, the first time my car was broken into, there was > one CD that I couldn't remember I had in there. Well, a little while > ago, I had the time to figure it out. It was my SUBCONSCIOUS #42!!!!
Ouch... Ooo... That's gonna give me nightmares...
> p.s. Hi BABS, said hi to you as I drove by Geneseo on my way back > from school, don't think you heard me though :-)
I wish I could do that... Am I the ONLY Jammer from Puerto Rico?
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> From: matt rosin <grosin@mailbox.neosoft.com> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1567 > > >Metallica > >--------- > >I still listen to "Master of Puppets" and "And Justice For All" somewhat > >regularly, I got sick of hearing the songs on the Black album, I heard > >the new singer and sorta like it, > > new SINGER? huh? you mean SONG, right?
Typo... He prob'ly meant singLE, not singER.
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> From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> > To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
YESS!!!! THAT'S what we are!
> Subject: computers piss me off > > i just spend two days getting my computer back up... i have devised a > rule for all you computer users out there.. DO NOT INSTALL PROGRAMS ON > 100% OF YOUR HARD DRIVE, IT WILL MAJORLY FUCK IT UP! :) anyways, weird > stuff been happening... i had this dream... > > <dreamy wave music> > > ok, me and Dan McCormack (mi vaca hermano) are in this mall, and for
LOL!!! MMMOOOOOO!!! :)
> some reason Mojoman works in the survailance/lost and found area in this > hidden big closet type room, and we go in and hang with mojo... heres > the weird thing though, the fact that i dont even fucking know mojo in > any way besides his posts... i've never mailed him and weve never talked > on irc... nuthin against the dude, just wondering how the hell he ended > up in my head... anyways we get on his computer and he's about to send > a letter to the jam and he walks out of the room, so me and dan grab the > computer and type "BOW TO COWS, COWS RULE!" all over the dudes post and > send it... then mojo came back and we just kinda said bye and split, and > then i pretty much woke up... man this is pathetic! I'm having dreams > about computers and shit! DAMN YOU ALL!!!!!!! :)
hehe... Sorry Mojo... We were just fooling around... And all you Jammers, don't be surprised if Mojo's next post really IS filled with "BOW TO COWS, COWS RULE!!!" :)
> ok one last thing, anyone into candlebox? i just got that new one from > some dude for a few dollars and its pretty good. Klett's into a lot of > Hendrix and D. Gilmour stuff, just wonderin if anyone else digs it and > what they think.
Candlebox, yeah, they kick cow. I recently relistened to their self-titled album, and it still rocks... The guitar solo in 'Rain' just kicks so much ass... How does he do that thing at the beginning of the solo? It's like a weakening kind of thing.. Don't know how to describe it... Sounds kind of like a person talking while they're crying, you know? Anyway, haven't heard anything from them but the first album.
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> From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> > Subject: musicians... > > my quick thoughts on "what is a musician?" > > Who gives a fuck.
Yes! Well said. If you create sounds that people enjoy (people could = you) you are a musician. Just leave it at that, don't try and define it. Shut up and play yer music. :)
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> From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com> > Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1564 > > *** Reply to note of 05/20/96 14:52 > Siners can be musicians. Yes the voice is a musical instrument. The guy who
Only if they repent.
Later, -That DMC Guy-
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Daniel McCormack dmc@dreamt.org http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/dan.html
"All the dead greenery, sacrificed for you and me I'm the one who cares for them - I'm a Carnatarian" - Chris Merlo (D-Man), Carnatarian, Polio Dog
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-" - General John Sedgewick, Union Commander in the Civil War, speaking his last words.
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