YTSEJAM digest 1576

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Date: Thu May 23 1996 - 14:45:28 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Mail Item Format Warning
     by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/23/96 - 16:21:02" <response@ibmmail.com>
      2) new cds out
     by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
      3) No-rhythm keyboarist
     by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
      4) New DT Song Book available...
     by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
      5) Re: Babs
     by "Brian Anderson" <anderson@frontiernet.net>
      6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1574
     by QALA32B@prodigy.com (MR GARY C BROWN)
      7) RE: YTSEJAM digest 1575
     by "MojoMan" <Mojonet@PB.net>
      8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1575
     by hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal)
      9) $.02 re:Colaiuta/Skolnick/ACoS sound
     by Robert Andrew Jurado <roburado@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
     10) YTSEJAM digest 1573
     by "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
     11) YTSEJAM digest 1573
     by "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
     12) YTSEJAM digest 1574
     by "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
     13) Awake live?
     by napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
     14) King's X _Earcandy_ track by track
     by Walter S Semerenko <wss88274@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
     15) Prog and Vanessa Mae
     by napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
     16) Disliking Styles...
     by Mike Pelarski <pelarski@cs.und.nodak.edu>

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    Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 11:19:35 EDT
    From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/23/96 - 16:21:02" <response@ibmmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
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    Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 11:29:48 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
    To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: new cds out
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960523112513.10503V-100000@bdmserver>

    I bought the new King's X and it is not Dogman! Which is great, the
    vocals of old have returned. I can't really decide where I would rank Ear
    Candy with their other cds but it is a lot better than Dogman.

    [flame mode off]
    The cd that has really surprised me is Def Leppard's Slang. This album is
    really good (IMHO or course). I may rank it above Hysteria. It is leagues
    above Adrenalize.
    [flame mode on]

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    | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
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    | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
    | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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    |The Baltimore Orioles-The team to beat in 1996!!!!!!! | Go DC United! |
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    Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 12:07:33 -0400 (EDT)
    From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
    To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: No-rhythm keyboarist
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605231223.C11130-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>

    Hey. I forget who it was that had this problem, but I have a solution.
    Take him out to a blues club or a jazz club. Get him sauced, and find a
    nice young lady who's willing to dance slow with him. If he can't find
    the groove then, he's hopeless. :)

      ------------------------------------------------------------------------
      The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary
      cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn
      d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed
      http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart

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    Date: Thu, 23 May 96 09:16:03 PST
    From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: New DT Song Book available...
    Message-ID: <9604238328.AA832869154@CCGATE.HAC.COM>

         Well, I finally got around to updating the DT Song Book (version 1.3).
         I now have the Chroma Key stuff and the studio version of ACOS from
         the Antiquities CD. It is now available for your perusal...
         
         -Mike
         
    The Dream Theater "Unofficial" Song Book is a complete listing of all Dream
    Theater lyrics (Official releases, singles, EPs, cover tunes, the Kevin
    Moore demos, etc.). It is available via the following methods:

    WWW: http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/dt/dt.htm
    FTP: www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/dt/dt_sb13.txt

    Email from the Ytsejam Mailing List Archive send:
        get ytsejam dt_songbook
    Address it to: ytsejam-request@ax.com
    with a subject of: asdf

    If you wish to include links from your web pages, the name of the actual
    song book file changes with each revision (but I'll let everybody know when
    that happens). The WWW address for my Dream Theater page will not change (so
    that's a safe one).
       Dream Theater page: http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/dt/dt.htm
       ASCII Song Book: http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/dt/dt_sb13.txt
       HTML Song Book: http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/dt/dt_sb13.htm

    If you can't get a copy using the above methods or have any comments or
    questions, send me an email at mrkizer@ccgate.hac.com

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    Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 12:46:36 +0000
    From: "Brian Anderson" <anderson@frontiernet.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Babs
    Message-ID: <199605231647.MAA35424@mail.frontiernet.net>

    >Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 09:35:42 -0500 (EST)
    >From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
    >To: ytsejam@ax.com
    >Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1568
    >Message-ID: <v01510108adc88dad551f@[137.238.26.12]>
    >
    >To Brian Anderson:
    >
    >Yes, I know what form you are talking about Brian. Those were given
    >to me by the President of their fan club, Gail Flug. She was at the
    >convention as well.

    >I would think this over a bit Brian. No need to pay twice. If you
    >have time go through your stuff and see if you wrote that check or
    >not.

             Everything is cool. Neil wrote me, and everything is
    settled. Looks like they never cashed my initial check.

    >Oh sure, go right by where I live and not stop and say hello (giggle).
    >BTW, I showed the Ytse Convention pictures to a fellow 'jammer who
    >STOPPED BY TO VISIT ME IN GENESEO ON HIS WAY HOME (how's that for a
    >little guilt?) and he agreed w/ me that you look like Geoff Tate.
    >
    >-BABS

          Not any more. I too have chopped my hair off. Got it cut
    about a month ago. Now I look like every other college boy. And, I
    would have stopped but my parents were with me, and they wanted to
    get home (How's that for an excuse? :-)

        -Brian

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    Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 12:41:22, -0500
    From: QALA32B@prodigy.com (MR GARY C BROWN)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1574
    Message-ID: <199605231641.MAA25534@mime4.prodigy.com>

    -- [ From: Gary Brown * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

    Hey you all,I've been seeing Trevor Rabin's name pop up on here a few
    times.I'm a huge YES fan,and over the years seen Trevor play 4 times in
    concert.For one show"Talk" I was front row right in his face.It's hard
    to walk away and say he is not talented.As for not being with Yes
    anymore,he just stepped down to do other stuff.As of now he is working
    on movie soundtracks:I believe he worked on Twister,and might even be
    uncredited here.He plans on re-releasing his solo stuff,and also wants
    to put out a live C.D. from his "Can't Look Away"tour.Besides that he
    has worked with several performers including Tina Turner and Michael
    Jackoff. Till later-just
    hanging in Houston Town-G.B.

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    Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 12:59:31 -0400
    From: "MojoMan" <Mojonet@PB.net>
    To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 1575
    Message-ID: <199605231702.KAA26625@mindcrime.ax.com>

    > OK, here's a question. Someone (was it you, Mirth Mobile?) once tried
    > to convince me that live endings to PMU have more beats or something
    > than the studio version. I just don't hear it. What I hear is a much
    > more accentuated ending, stronger drum hits and such, but I don't think
    > there are any extra beats in there. What's up with that?
    >

    I dont think It was MirthMurkwater....I remember him trying to convince me
    once that It was the same amount of hits.....
            But...In every live version of PMU that I have, Portnoy hits an extra
    beat...
            
            But go figure, Merlo is a Bassist and MirthMurderer is a Drummer and
    they were never taught to count....

            (BTW, Mirth-MachoMan ???? Don't bother flaming me...I wont read
    it...I'll be away this weekend....

            

    ******

            BOW TO COWS, BOW TO COWS, BOW TO COWS!!!!

    *******

    J U S T S A Y M O O ...{oops}... I M E A N M O J O!!!!

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    Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 10:09:51 -0700
    From: hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1575
    Message-ID: <199605231709.KAA00197@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com>

    >> Q: Wasn't he a drummer?
    >> A: Yah... and I'm a piano player ;-)
    >Was Portnoy being sarcastic here (as if he were responding to a rumor)
    >or not? I couldn't tell for sure, and I've never heard of him playing
    >anything but the drums.

    No, see that winking smiley face after Mike's quote - that means that
    he was dead serious! ;^)

    And this one also:

    >>but he can't grasp the concept of tempo. I need help! Do any of you
    >>know of a way to teach a person to understand basic rythym?
    >>
    >Forget about straightening this out in rehearsals. IMO, he should get
    >it straight by working by himself, or as a duo with a member of your
    >band (the angry drummer, maybe?), like the bassist, with preferably a
    >metronome. Not jamming on your songs, but very elementary rhythmic
    >exercices. I experienced an out-of-rhythm guitarist years ago. We
    >tried to correct it during rehearsals. Needless to say, it didn't
    >work. We had to part ways

    IMO, excellent advice. I have always said that keeping good time
    cannot be taught, it is an innate skill, however, if someone is
    borderline they can improve vastly by using a metronome of practicing
    with a good drummer. I have played in bands with app. 35-40 musicians,
    and only 2 had tempo problems - and guess what? - we had to let them
    go, too. It just couldn't be corrected.

    Hey all you Fates Warning fans, is "Chasing Time" a good disc for a
    Fates-rookie to buy? I see that it's a compilation, and includes some
    songs I've heard mentioned on the 'jam - should I get this or another
    CD? (Columbia House has a 2 for 1 deal this month, and I'm getting
    another copy of "Awake", so thought I'd get a free FW too).

    Thanks in advance,

    Larry

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    Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 10:07:31 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Robert Andrew Jurado <roburado@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: $.02 re:Colaiuta/Skolnick/ACoS sound
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605230909.B2178-0100000@uclink2.berkeley.edu>

    'ello, everyone,

    > And no, your CDs are ok, the PMU ending is reminiscent of "I Want You (She's
    > So Heavy)" from The Beatles' Abbey Road album. Just for the effect. And I
    > still like the real ending they play live better!

    Wow...I didn't even think of that. Better find a copy of PMU live to hear
    what the ending is supposed to be. Looks like it's really time to plunk down
    the ducats for LatM...

    > >2. Is it me or is JP using a talk box at about 11:54 (don't quote me on
    > > the time) of ACoS?
    > I believe that is a wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah pedal

    I'm not so sure. The vowel sounds aren't as pronounced as I'd expect a
    wah-wah to sound. Also the sound isn't quite as creamy as I'd expect for
    a wah. It sounds much more "grainy". I can't think of any talkbox
    recordings (probably because I never listened to Peter Frampton, although
    I'm told he's talkbox guy) except for "No Respect" by Extreme. The ACoS
    passage sounds more like No Respect than Voodoo Chile. The only thing
    that seems different is that the ACoS passage is higher notes. Also, I
    remember hearing a NY area band, The Other Half, and the guitarist had
    a talk box. I remember it sounding kind of like a wah, but it had a
    different character. He didn't do any of those talk fx, but he just
    messed around with the sound of his distortion; it wasn't as pronounced
    a use of the box as the talking thing.

    > I'm listening to Savatage's "Handful of Rain" for the 1,987,324
    > since I bought it yesterday. WOWOWOWOW!!!!! Was Skolnick this good in
    > Testament? I heard him play Jazz/metal on Michael Manring's "Thonk" and

    You ain't kidding. I was taking lessons with Alex Skolnick for a little
    while. I would walk in humbly while he was working on his country riffs
    or sometimes a jazz thing. We'd jam a bit to illustrate the use of some
    new thing he showed me that day, and it's just apparent that he rips!!!
    Nice guy too. It's a shame I haven't heard much of his stuff. I've only
    heard his track on "Guitars that Rule the World" with Les Claypool, I think.

    > good examples of Vinnie Coaluita's playing? I'm very interested in him.

    The only examples of Vinnie Colaiuta's playing that I know of are with Sting.
    Try "Ten Summoner's Tales", especially "Seven Days", which I believe is in
    5/4 with some neat fills by Vinnie. I like "I Was Brought To My Senses" off
    "Mercury Falling" too.

                                            -Rob

    ******************************************************************************
    Robert Andrew Jurado
    roburado@uclink2.berkeley.edu
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "ga-ga-ga-ga-ga-GUNK-ga-ka-ga-KOW-ga-KOW..."
                                    -John Petrucci in Metropolis Part I
    ******************************************************************************

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    Date: 23 May 1996 10:57:10 GMT
    From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1573
    Message-ID: <199605231718.AA19145@interlock.amoco.com>

    *** Reply to note of 05/22/96 22:04
    C'mon, Jack. Cut the crap. Metallica's Black album was
    nothing but a bunch of fucking singles. The best tune on there was "Struggle
    Within" and NOBODY without the album heard that song because all they knew was
    "Sandman", "NEM", "Wherever I May Roam" and that other ploding, slow tune they
    happened to make a video for. Get it? All video releases....MTV fodder. And
    just because "Ten" wasn't popular where you live until 1992 or whatever date
    you set on your calendar doesn't mean Pearl Jam wasn't getting lots of
    attention elsewhere. Nirvana sold out at the Univ. of Ill. in Jan. of 1991
    because people had heard their shit and loved it. As for Metallica driving
    their producer crazy in the studio (yes I've seen "A yr. & 1/2...").....your
    point would be..? ???? I'd like to think they drove Bob Rock crazy because
    they weren't as completely sold on the radio bullshit they were recording as
    he was. Until this thread came up, I never met a Metallica fan who liked the
    Black album. I guess one man's vomit is another man's banquet.

    Steve

    ***************************************************************
    "You may remember me from such movies as 'Dial M for
    Murderousness' and 'The Erotic Adventures of Hurcules'"
                                               - actor Troy McClure

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    Date: 23 May 1996 11:05:11 GMT
    From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1573
    Message-ID: <199605231729.KAA27103@mindcrime.ax.com>

    *** Reply to note of 05/22/96 22:04
    I love the way people respond to arguments on this list. If you make any
    generalization, don't put "IMHO", make figurative comments, etc. people beat
    the shit out of you as if they've never heard of language. Then if you're
    extremely precise, you'll get inverted reactions of "nitpicker", etc. I swear,
    some people reply to things just to hear themselves type. (Kinda like I'm
    doing now, though I hope a points been carried).

    Anyway, the Chicago Trib. gave King's X'x latest 2.5 stars calling it a
    "relaxed and poignant album." They continue saying "thier tradmark
    spirituality remains at the forefront, while Pinnick waxes nostalgic.
    (However) it's not an especially ausipicous follow-up to the cocky 'Dogman'".

    Steve

    ***************************************************************
    "You may remember me from such movies as 'Dial M for
    Murderousness' and 'The Erotic Adventures of Hurcules'"
                                               - actor Troy McClure

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    Date: 23 May 1996 11:20:11 GMT
    From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1574
    Message-ID: <199605231731.AA19652@interlock.amoco.com>

    *** Reply to note of 05/23/96 03:12
    Chris Oates....just read your post regarding how the Metallica/grunge thing
    worked the other way when you graduated high school. I could happen. Colleges
    have been known to "be ahead of the curve" for new music since the early 80s.
    Not that college crowds were way into metal, but REM made big splashes on
    campuses and college radio before MTV (BTW that happened with "Fall on Me"
    from Document in 1987). So that could be why I had heard lots of PJ and
    Nirvana before most others. Also, since Chicago is the #3 market in the world,
    radio stations here get a lot of music before releases. I know "Sandman" was
    played well before the album came out. I guess a lot of that whole argument
    comes down to environment....right place right time, etc. I still think the
    Black album sucked biggie, though. LATER-

    Steve

    ***************************************************************
    "You may remember me from such movies as 'Dial M for
    Murderousness' and 'The Erotic Adventures of Hurcules'"
                                               - actor Troy McClure

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    Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 13:12:39 -0500
    From: napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Awake live?
    Message-ID: <v01510101adca5a683524@[204.71.98.31]>

    Hiya,
            DT played Space Dye Vest live? (You said the played all of Awake).
    I just don't think DT or DS (Derek) would want to play a song that was sooo
    totally Moore's. Although SDV was the one song I wanted to hear most when
    I saw them live in Kansas City MO a year and a half ago. But then, I
    thought that Derek Sherinian WAS Kevin Moore with a haircut!

    Cheers!

    napkins@clandjop.com
    Seth Hatlelid

    "I have to do a research paper on teen suicide. Now all I have to do is
    decide wether I'm for it or against it!"

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    Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 14:04:17 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Walter S Semerenko <wss88274@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: King's X _Earcandy_ track by track
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.960523135443.19034A-100000@Pegasus>

    King's X _Earcandy_

    Overall:

    This album is a more relaxed King's X album. It sounds closest to _Faith,
    Hope, Love_ and _Out of the Silent Planet_. The production is much better
    than Dogman. It doesn't have that "raw" feel. Lyrics are introspective
    and honest. I'm very pleased with the album, except for a few songs where
    the bass and the drums doesn't sound right for me.

    "Train"

    This is a good song..rather short...my initial reaction was that the bass
    drum is too loud, but I have got used to it.

    "Thinking and Wondering"

    One of the slowest song on the album. The bass sounds too resounding.
    Not a song you would expect from KX.

    "Sometimes"

    This is the single released to the radio stations. It is a
    "radio-friendly" song, but this ain't a 3-5 power chord song. The lyrics
    are repitious: "Sometimes, I want to..."

    "A Box"
    This song has a nice relaxing feel to it. The chorus is a little
    repititous, but I like it.

    "Looking for Love"

    Heaviest song on the album...nowhere near the heaviness of Dogman.
    Repitious chorus. Lyrics seem to describe a hard religious experience.

    "Mississippi Moon"

    My favorite song at the moment. Ty Tabor does lead vocals...nice vocal
    harmonies followed by Ty's unique guitarwork.

    "67"

    I don't really like this song. It starts off similar to "Business" off
    Dogman.

    "Lies in the Sand"

    Somber tune like "Flies and Blue Skies" I like it. Ty uses nice guitar
    tones with his e-bow.

    "Run"

    Another song dealing with an oppresive religious experience...probably
    written by Doug. Chorus: "I had to run, I had to hide, in a world
    outside..."

    "Fathers"

    Second favorite tune. This song has an emotional effect on me which is
    hard to describe. Lyrics start off: "My brother's on crack, my sister's
    a wreck..." Then the great chorus comes in "Everyone of us loves
    everyone of us. Everyone of us loves everyone." Cool bass sound.

    "American Cheese"

    Jerry Gaskill does lead vox...the song is kinda wierd, but I'm sure it
    will grow on me.

    "Picture"

    Great song. Doug has a soothing voice...reminds me of Darius Rucker of
    Hootie. The song slowly fades with dreamy instrumentation. I love that
    part.

    "Life going by"

    Ty does lead vox...beatlesque sounding. Great introspective lyrics and
    chorus.

    KX album ranking:

    Faith, Hope, Love
    Gretchen goes to Nebraska
    Out of the Silent Planet
    self-titled
    Dogman

    Earcandy will probably be above or below OOTSP.

    Walter.

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    Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 13:30:09 -0500
    From: napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Prog and Vanessa Mae
    Message-ID: <v01510103adca5d17d674@[204.71.98.31]>

    Hiya,
            - having a synth or other non-rock-conventional instruments;
    >- doing weird rhythmics and/or chords;
    >- long songs;
    >- jazzy influences;
    >- being or sounding technically outstanding.

    I don't think that sythns are necessary to prog (although the ceratinly
    help). There are ceratin bands that are very proggy that don't have keys
    namely Damn the Machine, Fates Warning, I Mother Earth, Megadeth (yes they
    are dammit ;-), they have all the charactaristics of prog on most of their
    albums, esp Rust in Peace).

    Jazzy influences are very important to most prog, but I think that any
    strange style of music can be fused witgh rock to form prog (ever hear of
    the Hellecasters-Country prog!). Marty Friedman's middle eastern
    influences, JP's occasional classical influences, Fates Warning Flamanco
    guitar all progress the music in new directions.

    long songs certyainly are a charactaristic of most prog bands, but I don't
    see why there couldn't be a three minute prog song.

    Has anyone heard of vanessa Mae the violin player? Man, what a fantastic
    album! It's like industrial/dance/classical! She could do a totally
    intense duet with DT that would rock the house. Check this girl out!

    Cheers!

    napkins@clandjop.com
    Seth Hatlelid

    "I have to do a research paper on teen suicide. Now all I have to do is
    decide wether I'm for it or against it!"

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    Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 13:38:23 -0500 (CDT)
    From: Mike Pelarski <pelarski@cs.und.nodak.edu>
    To: Just Words <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Disliking Styles...
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960523133605.5509A-100000@agassiz.cas.und.nodak.edu>

    >>[Not liking JL's voice...]

    >That USUALLY comes from non-musicians... Not liking someone's guitar tone or
    >voice or SNARE SOUND :) or whatever... For example, I played Satch's Surfing
    >w/the Alien for a non-musician friend, and he couldn't stand the guitar tone...
    >That's an extreme example, tho... Usually it happens w/vocals. JL and Geddy
    >Lee are perfect examples. I won't elaborate because I'm sure most of you have
    >experienced this first-hand

    Yup. Last night. (While putting myself thru school, I work at a local
    grocery, and it's traditional to bring in some music to jam to while stocking
    shelves on a swing shift.) Anyway, I brought a pile of stuff to work, and
    wound up working with another guy who just got back to town from his college.
    Started with Enchant--A Blueprint of the World. "What's Enchant?" "Kinda
    like Rush." We listen to the first track, and he tells me "I might listen
    to Rush, but not those wannabes." Sigh. OK, try some DT (I know, I should'a
    done that first. Sue me.) I put in my brand-spanking-new copy of WDATU.
    He headbangs for a bit, and when James starts singing, he says "Holy shit!
    This is worse than the last stuff. Sounds like Metallica with Pavarotti (sp?)
    singing!" Double sigh.

    Anyway, I asked him what he usually listened to, since he didn't like my
    stuff. . . . "Rap, usually. But I like R&B, too." AUUGH! Another
    DT-non-convert, for sure.

    --Mike Pelarski
    --NP: Magellan--Impending Ascension

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