YTSEJAM Digest 1577
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/23/96 - 19:54:57" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) Latest News
by dada.mi@iol.it
3) ...no subject...
by CNG@tcco.com
4) DT Songbooks
by CNG@tcco.com
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1576
by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
6) Re: new cds out
by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
7) digest commands
by "Doug Cronkhite" <dougc@cerf.net>
8) Re: Pet peeve (NDTC)
by Scotchman@aol.com
9) LI hot? No way! Sheeah, way!!!, gammer, one man's banquet
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
10) Hey, Matt Rosin!!
by KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
11) Several small things...
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
12) SDV Live
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
13) Simply music
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
14) YTSEJAM digest ????
by John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1570
by tormato@allinux1.alliance.net (Jeremy Hyde)
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1571
by tormato@allinux1.alliance.net (Jeremy Hyde)
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1576
by KOPCSODA@vaxvmsx.babson.edu
18) Metallica video and single!
by kurt@fgallery.com
19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1574
by Brett <blane@nla.gov.au>
20) ATTn all Ytsejamers! New Sticker soon!
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
21) ATTn all Ytsejamers! New Sticker soon!
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 14:53:26 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/23/96 - 19:54:57" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
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Date: Thu, 23 May 96 20:57:17
From: dada.mi@iol.it
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Latest News
Message-ID: <199605231953.UAA15020@iol-mail.iol.it>
Any news about DT new album ?
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Date: Thu, 23 May 96 15:11:44 EDT
From: CNG@tcco.com
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ...no subject...
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+BT9dlA@tcx.tcco.com>
>From: hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal)
>
>Hey all you Fates Warning fans, is "Chasing Time" a good disc for a
>Fates-rookie to buy? I see that it's a compilation, and includes some
>songs I've heard mentioned on the 'jam - should I get this or another
>CD? (Columbia House has a 2 for 1 deal this month, and I'm getting
>another copy of "Awake", so thought I'd get a free FW too).
It's a pretty cool CD, especially for a new listener. Personally, I like the
full CD's because a lot of their stuff sounds "thematic". I love listening to
them all the way through - while they're in a particular vibe...
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Date: Thu, 23 May 96 15:17:48 EDT
From: CNG@tcco.com
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT Songbooks
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+uX9dlA@tcx.tcco.com>
I just picked up the "Awake" and "Images and Words" songbooks. Yep, I'm
ready to take over for John...NOT!!! This is some serious fretwork.
Is anything else by DT available? I'm dying to see what "A Change of Seasons"
looks like and "Ytsejam" of course...
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 15:25:57 -0500 (EST)
From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1576
Message-ID: <v01510100adca32c59a8a@[137.238.26.12]>
To: Brian Anderson
> Everything is cool. Neil wrote me, and everything is
>settled. Looks like they never cashed my initial check.
Wow, that's very interesting. Well it looks like the fan club is getting
somewhat back on track. Glad that everything worked out for you.
[RE: Looking like Geoff Tate]
> Not any more. I too have chopped my hair off. Got it cut
>about a month ago. Now I look like every other college boy.
Well, I still have the picture so that you can look back at future
conventions on your long hair days and weep (giggle).
And, I would have stopped but my parents were with me, and they wanted to
get home (How's that for an excuse? :-)
Alright, you're off the hook this time. Just remember you gotta go back to
college sometime, I'll be watching for ya (laugh).
-BABS
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 13:25:41 -0600 (MDT)
From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: new cds out
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.93.960523132320.12707A-100000@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
"Slang" by Def Leppard is actually a very good album. I really like the
first half of the disc, then it turns into too many ballads. After Guitar
World (I think) raved about the album, my curiosity was peaked, so I went
out and grabbed it. It seems to be influenced by a mild form of
industrial music....great guitar effects. Check it out if you get the
chance.
->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->
Adam R. Bertapelle "Scuse me...while I kiss this guy!"
bertapel@ucsu.colorado.edu Jimi Hendrix
Ask for my bootleg list! Purple Haze
<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 12:51:39 -0700
From: "Doug Cronkhite" <dougc@cerf.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: digest commands
Message-ID: <199605231947.MAA04198@smtp2.cerf.net>
How do I put my reception of the jam back into Digest mode ???
-doug
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 16:13:57 -0400
From: Scotchman@aol.com
To: Boyz N Da Hood <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Pet peeve (NDTC)
Message-ID: <960523161357_308274357@emout15.mail.aol.com>
Jam 1574:
>From: brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod)
>Subject: Pet peeve
>Get it right (not write or rite, by the way). If English is your native
>tongue, you have no excuse for not being able to write (not right or
>rite) a coherent sentence in it. If English is a second language for you,
>and if you didn't already know, now you do.
"ENGLISH, MUTHAFUCKA! DO YOU..."
Oh, never mind...
Scott.
Is An English Major, Yes
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Date: Thu, 23 May 96 13:51:58 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LI hot? No way! Sheeah, way!!!, gammer, one man's banquet
Message-ID: <9605232051.AA26763@tengs1>
> Hey Anna, good to see one more Long Island jammer on board, and
a
>girl to top it all off.
>Hating the oppressive heat!!!!!!
i be the only female DT fan i know. (personally) i know there are
female jammers out there, but none whatsoever near me! i feel so...
unloved...(*sniffle*)...
and yes, it was goddamn HOT here yesterday. what happened to spring?
! jesus, it turned into July overnight...50 degrees one week, 96 the
next...damn jet stream is screwing with my head...
not so bad today though...only about 85. what am i babbling about?
________________
Wow. 85F in LI? A far cry from Dec., when we were shivering in line
waiting for the Malibu show. And, spinning doughnuts in the snow
in our rental car near the boardwalk (yes, there are people from
CA who know how to drive in snow :^)>
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Subject: Pet peeve
Okay Jammers,
I know not everyone on this list has this problem, so I'll not
address my comments to everyone. However, if this is your problem you
know who you are.
There (as in "over there")
Their (as in "their second album")
They're (as in They're over there")
___________
My bigest peeve is writing "no one" as "noone". When I first got
on the 'net, it took me a while to figure out what the hell that
word was!
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.? ???? I'd like to think they drove Bob Rock crazy because
they weren't as completely sold on the radio bullshit they were recording as
he was. Until this thread came up, I never met a Metallica fan who liked the
Black album. I guess one man's vomit is another man's banquet.
Steve
__________
(I'll pull a Mike Bahr here)
Two bums walking along some railroad tracks happened upon a
half-rotted dog. Not having eaten in days, they debate this
serendipitous event. One bum decides that he's so hungry that
he doesn't care how decrepit the corpse looks, he's going to
eat. The other bum, protesting, says he will take no part of
this maggot-infested repast.
The other bum is happy, since it means more for him.
A little later, the first bum, his appetite sated, chides the other
for passing up their good fortune. The second replies that he is
sure they will find some better food soon.
Walking a little further, the first bum, his lunch disagreeing
with his stomach, starts retching, and hurls his food: dogmeat,
maggots and all, onto the gravel beside the tracks. Instantly,
other bum leaps down and starts shoveling the barf into his mouth.
"Ah," he says between mouthfuls, "that's what I was waiting for,
a hot lunch."
Zach
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 17:20:08 -0400
From: KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hey, Matt Rosin!!
Message-ID: <9605232120.AA22286@pipe5>
Two words: Carriage Return (or, if you like: enter)
I can't read all your posts because they go off the screen.
Go Red Wings!!
-- Kevin (kwmadden@usa.pipeline.com)------------------------------
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 14:52:22 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Several small things... Message-ID: <199605232152.OAA00119@bud.indirect.com>
Approved the proofs for Critical Mass printing today... manufacturing is complete, now the printing must begin. Scenes is currently printing.
Chasing Time by Fates is definitely the best CD to get a Fates rookie! They get to hear a lot of intense tunes from every stage of FW development, and you get the bonus Circles and the acoustic We never Say Goodbye. Well worth the purchase.
I'll be picking up the KX album in a little while.
Later all! MTFBWY! Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com/mikebahr@dreamt.org
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 17:56:20 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: SDV Live Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605231723.B15601-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid) > Subject: Awake live? > > DT played Space Dye Vest live? (You said the played all of Awake). > I just don't think DT or DS (Derek) would want to play a song that was sooo > totally Moore's. Although SDV was the one song I wanted to hear most when > I saw them live in Kansas City MO a year and a half ago. But then, I > thought that Derek Sherinian WAS Kevin Moore with a haircut!
Oops, my bad. No, they haven't. It's funny. I don't even think of SDV as a track on Awake. I think of it as like, if there were a bonus CD that came with Awake, except it's all on the same CD. Don't get me wrong - I love the song, I just don't ever think of it as a DT song. Something tells me it wouldn't have been on the album if it wasn't already established that Kevin was leaving.
I'm pretty sure that the band regards it as a Kevin song also, as opposed to a DT song.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 18:02:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Simply music Message-ID: <199605232202.SAA24547@kirk.ici.net>
> I guess a lot of that whole argument >comes down to environment....right place right time, etc. I still think the >Black album sucked biggie, though.
To be truthful, I liked TBA when it first came out. Played it constantly, was really into it, the whole 9 yards.
Over time though, something happened that didn't happen with any of the other Metallica albums (even Kill 'Em All) - I got tired of it. Whether that was because of the over-exposure of the songs on the radio and MTV, or just because of the fact that it consisted of much simpler songs, I don't know.
With DT, I think about how many times I've listened to Metropolis, and I still love it. I shudder to think that someday the song might bore me. :)
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________Pat Sullivan__________________________________ E-mail: psull@ici.net WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html IRC: DDictator Aliens: 3rd rock from Sol (the blue one)
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 17:38:22 -0400 (EDT) From: John McCabe <caber1@cris.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YTSEJAM digest ???? Message-ID: <199605232138.RAA13976@darius.cris.com>
Well, I got a whole lot of stuff to write about so I'll just start. 1) I got King's X's "Ear Candy". The only King's X CD I had before this was "Dogman". I thought was pretty darn good! I don't know what these other jammers are talking about if you liked "Dogman" you won't like. I don't maybe they are right about the early CDs. 2) I got two(count'em 2!) Mike Bahr CDs today. They were "WDATU" and "Antiquites". I must say that these CDs(from what I have listened to) are GREAT! 3) Also what is this I hear about a(n) YTSEcon in my home state of New Jersey. What is a YTSEcon? Also, when and where will it be held? 4) I just recruited three of mes amies to DT! We're testing driving my friend's "DMV rejected Mustang" around town. And my copy of "Awake" was in my jacket. And one of them noticed me pull it out. And noticed the cover(you got to admit it's a weird cover), and wanted me to play. Well, I played it. Oh boy, I never knew _6:00_ and _Caught_In_A_Web_ were such good car songs! 5) I've noticed no one in here is into INDUSTRIAL music. So, I try to you all into it. If you want to check out one really good INDUSTRIAL band go for KMFDM! I recommend "NIHIL". Anyone to stuff that's not the usually on the 'jam should really post. Because that's what makes this a "Progressive" mailing list :). See below to get the joke! > P.S. Curious question: What exactly makes a band (or song) >progressive? 6) I can tell I'm going to be reading about this for the next 5 or 6 'jams!
John McCabe P.S. Maybe I'll get two EoJ again!
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Date: Thu, 23 May 96 19:03 EDT From: tormato@allinux1.alliance.net (Jeremy Hyde) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1570 Message-ID: <m0uMjPb-000pbUC@alliance.net>
>Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 12:35:20 +0100 >From: akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Jeremy Hyde: fuck off! >Message-ID: <adc8aa7f00021004337f@[128.178.99.18]> > >Jeremy Hyde answered Brian Holst's arastar/ax.com enquiry as follows: > >>Boy if this lame sap can get an EOJ, anyone can!!!! >>Tee-hee-hee-hee!!! >>Maybe I'm sick, but I actually feel sorry for this guy, he digs DT so he >>can't be as stupid as this post showed us!!! > >So that's how we should from now on answer people who ask questions and >enquire on the jam?
Umm, excuse me, but I wouldn't call that a "question," I would call that a waste of bandwidth, considering that there is an abundance of CORRECT info on the 'jam on most of the DT webpages.
>Jeremy, if you damn well know everything, what the fuck are you doing on >the jam? If ya can't stand people asking questions that don't meet your >incredible intelligence, just fuck off, right? Hope one day you come up >with a question and get real flamed up the ass for it!!
It was something what we humans call a "joke," a mean one at that. So, to you Mr. Brian Holst who posted the 'jam with no clue what the hell you were doing, I am sorry.
> >And hey, what does being a DT fan have to do with stupidity? If it had >something to do, you should unsub IMMEDIATELY.
Did I mention that I was joking? I thought that it was funny as hell that someone who didn't know what they were doing got an EOJ! And hey, if more jerks like you keep subscribing to the jam, I just might unsub! So, shove it up your Swiss asshole!
>::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: >Dave King (some jerk in Switzerland)
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Date: Thu, 23 May 96 19:03 EDT From: tormato@allinux1.alliance.net (Jeremy Hyde) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1571 Message-ID: <m0uMjPr-000pbVC@alliance.net>
>Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 10:15:22 -0400 (EDT) >From: Mike <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: My Dear Woomward >Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960522101134.5596A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu> > >Hey, All. Syrinx here.
I'm sent your Marillion tape out today, I hope you like it, and you become a Marillion fan as well.
>From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> >To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> >Subject: Jeremy Who?
>> From: akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch >> Subject: Jeremy Hyde: fuck off! >> >> Jeremy Hyde answered Brian Holst's arastar/ax.com enquiry as follows: >> >> >Boy if this lame sap can get an EOJ, anyone can!!!! >> >Tee-hee-hee-hee!!! >> >Maybe I'm sick, but I actually feel sorry for this guy, he digs DT so he >> >can't be as stupid as this post showed us!!! >> >> So that's how we should from now on answer people who ask questions and >> enquire on the jam? > >Whoa, wait, hang on. *The* Jeremy Hyde? The bad trade guy aka Susan >Moscardini? Did anyone else catch this? Am I thinking of the wrong person? > Umm, I guess you are thinking of the wrong person. I'm the Jeremy Hyde (Tempus) who frequents the #ytsejam IRC channel. I've never traded with anyone on the jam, and if I did, I certainly wouldn't fuck 'em over. And who is Susan Moscardini?
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 20:43:59 -0500 (EST) From: KOPCSODA@vaxvmsx.babson.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1576 Message-ID: <01I5248LOM9U8ZF7SX@vaxvmsx.babson.edu>
Don't dog "Dogman" Daugherty....
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 21:44:54 -0400 From: kurt@fgallery.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Metallica video and single! Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.5.23.-11.44.54.2916992174.293485@bbs.fgallery.com>
Hey i just saw metallica's new video and ...i must say this is the end of metallica as we knew it... it sucks so bad..man im really dissapionted at them..i mean Lars' kit is now about a 4-5 piece piece of crap ..i hope this is only for the video ..even then ..it sucks.. also the song itself... man it made me wanna puke.. ..Metallica should now be called "ALternatica" or something like that... IMHO
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Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 12:00:37 -0700 From: Brett <blane@nla.gov.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1574 Message-ID: <31A60755.33B7@nla.gov.au>
> I need some help with a band situation. I just put a band together > with some VERY good players. We are trying to write some prog metal but > the problemn is the keyboard player. He is a VERY talented soloist, but he > has never played in a duet much less a band. The net result is his timing > is atrocious. He will actively ignore the drummer/bass(me)/metronome. We > have tried for some time to teach him to feel the kick drum, but he can't > grasp the concept of tempo. I need help! Do any of you know of a way to > teach a person to understand basic rythym? I've never seen our drummer get > so angry! I don't want to replace the keyboard player because he is a good > friend, but if he can't get the beat I'll have to drop him. It makes it > VERY difficult to write a song when a band member can't synchronize his > tempo with the rest of the band, even in common time! We can't get past > the opening riffs! Somebody please help!!!
Can't help you out but can sympathise. My last band had similar troubles. A guitarist I had been working with for about a year, I play bass, and I had asked a couple of friends, a drummer and singer, to play a few jigs. The drummer was great but the singer *hmm* well he tried. Our problem was that if we told the singer to leave the drummer went with him. Also we were all pretty good friends. We ended up telling the singer his services were no longer required and lost the drummer too as well as loosing 2 friends. A hard choice you have to make when mixing business with pleasure.
Brett: Ytse-Oz
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 21:26:42 -0500 From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ATTn all Ytsejamers! New Sticker soon! Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.5.23.-11.26.42.8657.8499@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
Hey all you Ytsejamers!
It's been a while. I've been real busy at work and haven't had much time to play. BUT.....YES! It is True!
Another sticker will be out soon. If you thought the last window sticker was ok, this one is 10 times better! More color. This is NOT a window sticker, but this is a vinyl sticker that can go just about anywhere!
I will keep you updated in the next few days. I will also post a picture of it on: http://www.dreamt.org
soon.
If you have any questions, feel free to write!
Todd s
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 21:27:14 -0500 From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ATTn all Ytsejamers! New Sticker soon! Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.5.23.-11.27.14.4237.18473@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
Hey all you Ytsejamers!
It's been a while. I've been real busy at work and haven't had much time to play. BUT.....YES! It is True!
Another sticker will be out soon. If you thought the last window sticker was ok, this one is 10 times better! More color. This is NOT a window sticker, but this is a vinyl sticker that can go just about anywhere!
I will keep you updated in the next few days. I will also post a picture of it on: http://www.dreamt.org
soon.
If you have any questions, feel free to write!
Todd s
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