YTSEJAM Digest 1585
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/27/96 - 18:20:19" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) HoCkEy and FiRsTs
by "Frank Benenati" <mojonet@pb.net>
3) Whoops.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
4) Fates Warning!
by kurt@fgallery.com
5) drop
by lerxst@voyager.com
6) Rhythm- Can it be taught?
by Mike Backof <mbacko1@umbc.edu>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1583
by tormato@allinux1.alliance.net (Jeremy Hyde)
8) New e-mail address
by gsrockr@en.com (George H. Sumschidt)
9) Re: drop
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
10) WTF?
by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
11) Re: Re: drop
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
12) G.A.S. Update
by "Steven C. Young" <syoung@primenet.com>
13)
by
14) Garbage????
by nishiki@juno.com (Aaron K Silverman)
15) misc.
by akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
16) Hi everyone! NEW CD UPDATE.
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
17) Metallica for once and for all
by akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
18) to Dave from Dave
by akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
19) Drum kits and dicks...
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 13:18:45 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/27/96 - 18:20:19" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199605271718.KAA09720@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 17:18:42 GMT on 27 May 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 13:58:13 -0400
From: "Frank Benenati" <mojonet@pb.net>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: HoCkEy and FiRsTs
Message-ID: <199605271759.KAA10207@mindcrime.ax.com>
> From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
> Looks like the Detroit Red Wings are the New New York Rangers,
what
> do they call it? The Heimlich maneuver!!!!!!!
Hmmm....for once, MirthMudDuck, I agree with you! ...Detroit is CHOKING!
I'm actully happy though....
I was never one for rooting for the upper dog....
So....I'm going jump onto the Hockey bandwagon here....
Go Avalanche!!!! Die Penguins!!!!!!!
Go Panthers!!!!!! Go back to eating seafood not throwing it, Detroit!!!
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Here's my firsts:
First Cassette : Kiss Animalize
First Real Cassette: Van Halen 5150
First LP: White Lion, Fight to Survive
First CD: Bon Jovi, Slippery When Wet
First CD-Rom: Rebel Assault
First Car: Sky Blue 1984 Volkswagon Vanagon...."The BOX"
First Car with a real Engine: '79 Chevy Malibu
First Woman: Some mentally handicapped slut in the back of above
mentioned car!
First Beer: Bud, on the mound, while pitching!
First Dead body: Killed a Pigeon, with a dart gun at age 12
First Dead Amp: Digital Man and I kill 'IT' by an old western train
tie-up...
First Burning Car: Digital Man, Me, and others....well....We burned it!
First seven story puke: This weekend....
J U S T S A Y M O J O !!!!
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 12:18:48 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Whoops.
Message-ID: <199605271918.MAA18158@maple.enet.net>
Eelllllllliiiiiiiooooooooooooooottt said:
>Damn Skippy, Mr. Laussade! But I beg to differ on one point. People *do*
>get pissed off for rappers sampling other musician's music and looping it.
Whoops....I meant the fans, not the artists that got their samples
stolen.
>Do you really think some idiot is going to think Midori wrote the 24
>Caprices?
Whoa....she didn't?
Ben "You've never SEEN me very upset' rips his mask off and he is Tom
Cruise" Laussade
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 15:34:40 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fates Warning!
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.5.27.15.34.40.2916992174.294179@bbs.fgallery.com>
Hey ! Just bought Fates Warning's Inside OUt ...this is my first Fates
cd ..and it kicks ass...can anyone recomend a cool one!
i mean ..another cool one]
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 13:08:20 -0500
From: lerxst@voyager.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: drop
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.5.27.13.8.20.2712174779.883368@voyager.com>
drop
remove
please remove me from the ytsejam mailing list
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 15:12:16 -0700
From: Mike Backof <mbacko1@umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rhythm- Can it be taught?
Message-ID: <31AA28C0.7169@umbc.edu>
Hello Jammers,
My take on this Rhythm discussion: Some people can feel it, some
cannot, but some musicians without a good feel for rhythm can learn how
play off the rhythm instruments in the band. I wouldn't want a drummer
without a natural feel for rhythm but an instrument playing melody or
harmony should be able to play off the drummer. Personally I have been a
musician for many years and have a good feel for rhythm, though that
doesn't make me a great dancer, except that I know when I mess up.
<grin>
Later,
Mike
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Michael Backof mbacko1@umbc.edu http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1
WWW Pages - Unsigned Bands: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/munsign.html
WWW Pages - Inferno Page: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/inferno.html
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Date: Mon, 27 May 96 20:08 EDT
From: tormato@allinux1.alliance.net (Jeremy Hyde)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1583
Message-ID: <m0uOCLI-000pPLC@alliance.net>
> 14) Is anybody out there .....
> by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
>Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 03:15:13 -0400
>From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Is anybody out there .....
>Message-ID: <199605270715.DAA29149@wicked.stigmata.org>
>
>
>Skadz
>
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>End of YTSEJAM Digest 1583
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>
What an easy way to get an EOJ, eh?
HA!
Maybe this'll get me my second EOJ (but I wouldn't count on it)!
Jeremy Hyde
aka Tempus
tormato@alliance.net
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 21:19:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: gsrockr@en.com (George H. Sumschidt)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New e-mail address
Message-ID: <199605280119.VAA06539@en.com>
To anyone that cares... Steve Johnson especially!!! I have a new internet
server. Send any mail to me at this address: gsrockr@en.com
Thanks for listening, George.
Bafu Vai (required content)
Oh yeah, I listen to DT at work EVERYDAY!!!! Long songs make the hours FLY
by. Later...
If you see me driving sideways...wave.
Never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly.
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 21:49:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: drop
Message-ID: <199605280249.VAA29353@parka>
Try this..
UNSUBSCRIBING
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To leave the list, please send:
unsubscribe ytsejam
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Please don't put anything in front of the word unsubscribe
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If you run into problems with the program, send email to
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(We're busy people--we'll try to process your request as
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>
> drop
> remove
> please remove me from the ytsejam mailing list
>
>
>
>
savaweb@winternet.com
http://www.winternet.com/~savaweb/
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 22:41:21 -0400
From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: WTF?
Message-ID: <19960529024119.AAA6415@mail.pananet.com>
1 'jam a day? what's this, arastar.com or sumthin'?
well I saw the new Metallica vid today. It's different...cool. It sounds
like Danzig meets Megadeth...meets Metallica of course:) w/ just a teensy
bit of what people call alternative. It's nice to see Metallica play
something in the middle of the dynamic spectrum. b4 all they played was
either totally soft, or totally LOUD, so it's nice to see a change. As far
as the 4-piece drums go, I doubt its Lars current setup. It just seems more
appropriate for that video, that's probably why they did it. And speaking of
the video, WTF? It looks like Jesus Christ Superstar gone wrong. And Kirk
looks like a freak from hell. Was he wearing a hairnet when they show them
playing guitar? Well I have to admit that he used the wah in a cool way on
that solo... not his typical crap...of course it could be James playing that
so I'll shut up now.
And guess what video came next?
RROOOOTS!!! BLOODY ROOOOOTSSSS!!!
Yes!:)
1 week w/ no DT...boy am I a masochist... for some strange reason I'm just
forcing myself not to listen to DT for a while. go figure.
Actually, I have so many new CD's that I decided to only listen to them and
not hear any of the other CD's. That of course includes all my DT CD's.
Of course, I could always buy a *new* I&W so I could hear it :)
Although it be easier to just forget about my will power...
but that would set a bad example for Ibby...right Irene?:)
later
"OK...great, OK...listen Bert,uh...how about this one?"(this one,this
one,this one,this one, this one, etc.)
Ernie :) AVOID THE NOID!
Levadura,levadura. Dame musculatura. DURA! DURA!
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 22:58:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Re: drop
Message-ID: <199605280358.WAA08146@parka>
Ooops!!! Damn it that one slipped. Sorry about that.
nathan bradley
savaweb@winternet.com
http://www.winternet.com/~savaweb/
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 21:53:40 -0700
From: "Steven C. Young" <syoung@primenet.com>
To: "'YtseJam Digest'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: G.A.S. Update
Message-ID: <01BB4C17.DE8900E0@ip144.tus.primenet.com>
G.A.S. UPDATE!!!
We are almost through the month of May, and the number of G.A.S.
participants has only reached 80! We've lost a lot of momentum with respect
to the goal of 100 'jammers. For those of you who haven't yet participated,
I would greatly appreciate your joining forces in this, in the little time
we have left, as I find it interesting to know where the general interest
of the YtseJam as a whole lies. Top 10 lists (that can include DT) can be
E-mailed to:
and will be received until May 31st, at 11:59pm. Lists will be tallied and
a non-DT band/artist will be crowned on June 1st (my wife's birthday), and
complete results (ALL bands/artists received and number of votes) will be
posted on or about that day.
ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!:
ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!:
ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!:
*** I STILL need to hear from BOGIE and ADAM COOK - you guys only left me
five bands to work with - help!
*** Also, let's not send in TWO entries, please (Mr. Runde), though, I
highly appreciate your enthusiasm.
*** I have received two votes for "My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult" -
now, are these two separate bands, or is that really the bands name? I saw
them on "The Crow" soundtrack and I'm assuming that they are two groups
that collaborated on a song, being mistaken for one group with a long name
- Any Thrill Kill Kult fans out there to support me on this? I really need
to know.
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Current Top 5 (non-DT) as of 5/27/96, out of 80 participants and 262
bands/artists received:
1) Queensryche (44 votes)
Rush (44)
3) Fates Warning (31)
4) Metallica (22) -> New CD out in 1 week!!!
5) Savatage (17) -> First appearance in the Top 5.
Yes (17)
*** King's X, and Shadow Gallery are also strong contenders for a spot in
the Top 5. Others with 10 or more votes: Tori Amos, Extreme, Galactic
Cowboys, Iron Maiden, Marillion, and Van Halen.
If it wasn't for an entry placed today, QR would have the lead by one vote.
4 days left before the deadline - we're running out of time real fast like
- We're still shooting for 100 participants and we still lack 20 (five a
day).
So, get out and vote, you guys.
C'mon, it'll be fun!
Muchos thankos to those who have played the game already - you guys rule.
Steve from Tucson
syoung@primenet.com
"There's not a man, woman or child alive that doesn't enjoy a lovely
beverage." - David Letterman
*** Also, get ready for an added feature to the G.A.S. that should be
pretty interesting - we're going to find out who the most common and most
unique 'Jammers are. Stay tuned for details.
*** Scored the new King's X last week - disappointed at first, but the more
I have listened, the more I have enjoyed it - King's X fans, pick it up!
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 22:34:40 PST
From: nishiki@juno.com (Aaron K Silverman)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Garbage????
Message-ID: <19960527.230146.7951.0.nishiki@juno.com>
Howdy,
I am really annoyed at a certain post which appeared in #1583.
It had no content related to music or anything else remotely interesting
to anyone here. You know, the list of someone's activities in Baltimore.
This post was so ridiculously childish it almost melted my pagedown key!
Can we PLEASE try to keep our posts at least related to things people
might want to talk about? Just because we're all insulated from each
other via the Internet doesn't mean we can't try to use a little tact
and respect when spouting off in this semi-public forum.
Can't we all just get along? ;)
DJKA
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:15:14 +0100
From: akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: misc.
Message-ID: <add0721002021004bd22@[128.178.99.18]>
Hi there,
Back to work and just trying to catch up with these jams overflowing from
the jars.
Bought the latest Slayer (sorry for the NDTC). It kicks serious ass. People
find that Slayer is jumping on the punk bandwagon, but I think they're
rather pushing Green Day & Co. off the wrong train!!! However their
unreleased "Gemini" isn't very good material.
DTC: Can anyone tell me how to get hold of the John Myung instructional
video? I've been dreaming about that Metropolis tapping for days, now!! I
heard that the vid is only available in Japan.
Anyone noticed how some fancy signatures get fucked up??!! Is that a mail
conversion problem??
Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>to a point, maybe. like i said, *in my experience* rythmn cannot be
taught. i've been playing for 18 years and i've known alot of musicians.
i've never seen anyone go from playing with absolutely no rythmn to being
able to play in 4/4 time, or even prog, such as Seth is doing. i think
rythmn is something that you either have or you don't. perhaps someone
with some rythmn could improve with the help of a metronome, but i've never
seen anyone learn how to play in time. it's something you feel, ya
know?<<<<<<<<<<
Rhythm: now THAT'S a fucked up word....And OK it's hard to get unless
you've GOT it in your veins from the start. But, Andrew, spelling CAN be
taught.
All for now,
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Dave King
(somewhere in Switzerland)
"Holding on is easier than letting go"
Fates Warning
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 02:09:32 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hi everyone! NEW CD UPDATE.
Message-ID: <199605280909.CAA13364@bud.indirect.com>
There's a new CD update ready. E-mail me if you want it.
There's an important piece of info in it. After careful
consideration, the print run for Precious Things has been set at 500. I
explain this more thoroughly in the update, but the short of it is that I
didn't feel that my integrity would be served if I deprived people who
wanted one of the CDs of the chance to own them. I think 500 is a low,
fair print run number that will let all the true fans who are currently
on the list get a chance to have one.
Alas, Scoobacca is on hiatus. Our singer decided to go and get
signed or something like that, and he took our drummer Taz with him.
We're pretty bummed, but those two positions have changed before, so
Johan (guitars) and I (bass) know we can keep on cranking and everything
will turn out for the best with new members. On the up side, the drummer
and singer owed me such an obscene amount of money that I now own their
drum kit, PA system, and all necessary hardware therewithal. I'll hang on
to this stuff for now and see what happens. At least our longtime friend,
soundman, light man, and original (1994ish) drummer Jeremy is sticking
with us as well. To the future, and the great unknown!...
- voluntas vincit omnia - Mike Bahr - durnik@indirect.com -
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 11:37:35 +0100
From: akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Metallica for once and for all
Message-ID: <add0861201021004deab@[128.178.99.18]>
>Those people who don't like the new single (and Load, when it's released)
>should quit moaning about it and find something else they do like. I'm
>certainly looking forward to hearing the new material.
>
>All comments/flames greatfully received :->
>
>
>--
>
>Andy
Thanx for the invitation. This'll be my only Metallica post to say that
I've listened to the new single and 2x4. I wouldn't have been bothered
about the change in musical direction (it IS sort of easy-listening stuff)
if I didn't get the impression that the Foursemen have somewhat lost their
writing talent. The songs are just too obvious and don't have any intrigue
to them. I'd be pretty disgusted if Load sells.
Up to now I got every Metallica album, but here the law of series ends. I quit.
Sorry for the NDTC. BTW, the jam is getting more and more out of hand
concerning DTC. I guess it's up to the 5 boys to give us something to talk
about'em again.
See ya,
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Dave King
(somewhere in Switzerland)
"Holding on is easier than letting go"
Fates Warning
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:55:32 +0100
From: akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: to Dave from Dave
Message-ID: <add096f1000210041fe7@[128.178.99.18]>
>Rhythm is natural, and you aint got it, you aint got it. You can't take someone
>that has NO NATURAL timing/rhythm and make them learn to feel it. You may be
>able to get them better than they are now, but fact that they have no natural
>timing will always show.
Hey, hey, hey!!! That's enuff!!! I've been following this thread for a
while and I guess I'll jump in for a second time.
Sorry but I think this is outright racism. You mean that there are NO pro
players out there that were born without a natural sense of rhythm and
learnt it later??? So if you ain't got it from start, don't even bother
about getting into music??? Please don't generalize from a few negative
experiences...
Take the example of relative pitch. How many people have I seen (my
guitarist, e.g.) w/o relative pitch but then put themselves to it and...GOT
IT!!!
I just hope that we musicians who DO have natural sense of rhythm will be
tolerant and patient enough with those who don't and give them (reasonable)
time to progress. The progress of the band should always prevail, but an
"If he can't he never will" attitude is one of outright exclusion
and...racism.
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Dave King
(somewhere in Switzerland)
"Holding on is easier than letting go"
Fates Warning
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Date: Tue, 28 May 96 11:30:27 +0200
From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de
Subject: Drum kits and dicks...
Message-ID: <9605280930.AA00238@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi all (again)
I don't usually post twice in one day, but something surfaced in what's left of
my brain concerning the new Metallica video (I quite liked it): some people have
said that Lars must have sold out/be playing alternative because he only used
a small kit in the video. Well, it's like the size of your dick (male jammers
only) - it's not what you've got, it's how you use it. Being hung like a donkey
doesn't automatically make you a sensitive lover (am I right girls?).
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop
(nga@software-ag.de)
What do you call a cow with two legs? Lean Beef.
Currently playing: Kyuss - Welcome to Sky Valley
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