YTSEJAM Digest 1984
Today's Topics:
1) RRRRRRUSHHHH
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
2) Voices
by "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
3) Re: Trading {please read}
by John McCabe <caber1@concentric.net>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1983
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
5) Vai - new DT album
by "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
6) pisswafers and the wafers they piss on.
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
7) a thank you to all Jammers!
by Hector Crisantes <snyfarms@gateway.dakotacom.net>
8) Eeeewww.....
by Big.Swifty@twav.com
9) Re: pisswafers and the wafers they piss on.
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
10) Re: Vai - new DT album
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
11) DID YOU KNOW...(yummy dtc!)
by Uncle.Dave@asu.edu
12) Birch Hill, Philly, Journey
by "Jill M. Lentchner" <jmlentch@mailbox.syr.edu>
13) minneapolis G3 show
by "Andrew Miller" <subtlerage@mail.gnn.com>
14) Re: Spock's Beard
by Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1983
by Dave Hatlee <buster@ee.net>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1983
by Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1981
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
18) what a surprise!
by David Alderman <alde0004@gold.tc.umn.edu>
19) Hard Rock
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
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Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 15:54:00 -0600
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RRRRRRUSHHHH
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961101215400.006fbc4c@mail.inlink.com>
ok, i've only got a few min before i skip town for the weekend, but RUSH
RULED LAST NIGHT. TO MASS PROPORTIONS :) that was definately the best
concert i've seen so far this year.... it was a wonderful idea to do a
whole "evening with rush" and no opening act, cuz they barely played enough
still! :) 2112 was the most amazing aspect of it all.... i had chills at
the end :) also like mr. peart's new facial do' he looks like he could be
the third van halen brother :) met up with dale newb, caught a few words
with aaron happe, tho we were needing to jet off to our seats and find em so
i had to skit quick, sorry bout that man :), also saw who i later found was
jay runde when we were just splitting the scene near the beginning, if i
woulda known i woulda stuck around to say hi at least :) lotsa DT fans
there, trust me, every few minutes someone must've said "DT! THOSE GUYS
ROCK!" hehehehe. all in all a great show... if you get the chance, go see
them, and buy me a ticket and pay for my air fare :)
~Rip
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:26:54 -0700
From: "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Voices
Message-ID: <m0vJS4y-000QWWC@mis01.micron.net>
First and foremost, I hope that none of us will decide to unsub from the
jam when we sub to voices. I guess I'd better list a few reasons:
1. Voices will only come out like once a day
2. It's moderated (ok maybe that's not so bad, but then we can't talk about
completely off topic stuff.)
3. It doesn't sound very cool to say "Yea! I'm a Voiceser!"
4. There's more people on here to advertise to/ask questions to.
I guess what I'm saying is subscribe to Voices, but stay on here too.
I still like Zack more than Jon
Craig Wuthrich
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:42:55 -0500 (EST)
From: John McCabe <caber1@concentric.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Trading {please read}
Message-ID: <199611012242.RAA02138@cliff.cris.com>
I know, I know I'm responding to my own post....BUT I think I didn't make
myself clear in the first post. My post was about a bad trader list I'm
making up. I'm not trading boots(I do but that post wasn't about me
trading). Sorry about this but 34 people emailed me about wanting to trade.
And I don't have time for 34 trades at a time.
John McCabe
Overheard yesterday at school.
1kid:Did you know what he is coming as?
2kid:Yeah, Howard Stern.
1kid:yeah, MISS AMERICA Howard Stern!
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 96 17:50:34 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1983
Message-ID: <327a8cca5c82586@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
You all fucking suck! My email is hayd0029@tc.umn.edu My name is Brian D.
Hayden. One of your asshole members signed me up under a bunch of diferent
names and addresses and YOU BETTER GET ME THE FUCK OFF YOUR FUCKING LIST
RIGHT FUCKING NOW COCKSUCKERS! For the record, his name is James Mohr, his
email is jpmohr@primenet.com and you should all send him as much junk mail
as possible! He's a fucking hypocrite asshole!
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Date: 01 Nov 96 15:33:11 -0800
From: "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Vai - new DT album
Message-ID: <199611020003.QAA19384@mailsun2.us.oracle.com>
For those of you who have the new Vai album, is anyone else deeply moved by
the song "Brother?" I generally prefer Vai's instrumental stuff, but this
song really does something to me! Give it a few listens if you haven't
already and let me know what you think...
DTC:
Mike Bahr: tell us the name of the new album!!! Argh!! =)
-Neil.
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* Neil Evans Phone: 415.506.3503 *
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* Oracle Corporation email: nevans@us.oracle.com *
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Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 00:21:22 -0600
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com, Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu
Subject: pisswafers and the wafers they piss on.
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19961102062122.0067dd88@inlink.com>
some dude scribbled-
>You all fucking suck! My email is hayd0029@tc.umn.edu My name is Brian D.
>Hayden. One of your asshole members signed me up under a bunch of diferent
>names and addresses and YOU BETTER GET ME THE FUCK OFF YOUR FUCKING LIST
>RIGHT FUCKING NOW COCKSUCKERS! For the record, his name is James Mohr, his
>email is jpmohr@primenet.com and you should all send him as much junk mail
>as possible! He's a fucking hypocrite asshole!
hahaha, i think that guy rules. he obvoiusly had good reason to do so, if
youre the type of person that comes on and calls 900 so people cocksuckers.
maybe you better learn how to control yourself instead of getting a whole
bunch more people on your case who'll probably sign you up to another five
hundred mailing lists. if on the other hand, you'd learn to handle yourself
maybe you could get some people on your side of this case. if he signed you
up you got a sign-up notice, and in that notice you'll find unsubscription
directions. have fun, pisswafer. :)
~Rip
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Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 17:09:38 -0800
From: Hector Crisantes <snyfarms@gateway.dakotacom.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: a thank you to all Jammers!
Message-ID: <327A9F12.28A@pop.dakotacom.net>
Hey Jammers,
I'm writing to say a brief thank you to all of you who make my day a
little happier. You guys/gals make me feel proud to be a Dream Theater
fan. Although we all live different lifestyles, we have found a common
ground, music. Good luck to all of you in the future.
Your Friend,
Hector Crisantes (DTfreak)
"find all you need in your mind,
if you take the time." DT: Take The Time
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Date: 1 Nov 1996 20:06:14 CDT
From: Big.Swifty@twav.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Eeeewww.....
Message-ID: <199611020113.RAA01784@pawn.ax.com>
YT> opinion, but it is clear when we see such bands as Milli Vanilli, or 4
YT> non blondes selling millions of records. This is marketing at its
YT> finest, we are being fed this massive dose of nothing, and we are eating
YT> it and asking for more.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I ain't puttin' NUTHIN' of Milli
Vanilli's in my mouth... :Þ
Regarding Journey...all of these nostalgic posts made me plug in my
Atari 2600 and play a few games of "Journey Escape". There's nothing
like hearing "Don't Stop Believing" when you finish a stage in a
videogame.
I just got Echolyn "As The World" and Magellan "Impending Ascension"
yesterday. I've listened to each of them once, and I like them. Is it
just me, or do the guys in Echolyn have one heckuva sense of humor?
Hehehehe....good stuff.
See you guys (and gals) in Old Bridge!
Mark Peters
big.swifty@twav.com
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 96 21:50:17 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: pisswafers and the wafers they piss on.
Message-ID: <9611020250.AA03965@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
ANd another thing. Stop breathing in my cup.
What's that guy's problem, anyway? I would assume he's not a dream theater
fan. But why do we suck? What did we do? And have you ever heard DT? Why not
give them a chance. I guess what I am trying to say in a very nice way is
Go fuck yourself, you prick. :)
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 96 21:50:55 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Vai - new DT album
Message-ID: <9611020250.AA18131@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Mike. Tell us the name of the new album or else ... :)
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Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 19:51:04 -0700 (MST)
From: Uncle.Dave@asu.edu
To: JAMMER DUDES <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DID YOU KNOW...(yummy dtc!)
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961101194308.19009A-100000@general4.asu.edu>
i don't know if anyone has caught this in the live version of tlf on LiT,
but my girlfriend and i were watching it and during jp's solo, she
started singing _within you without you_ by the beatles...and IT FUCKING
MATCHED!!! check it for yourself!
ps
i think this accounts for a chug, however if this is already in the faq
then drink everything in sight. 8~)
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Rick McMahon * College of Business * Arizona State University * YtseJammer
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 22:53:01 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jill M. Lentchner" <jmlentch@mailbox.syr.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Birch Hill, Philly, Journey
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961101001757.16686B-100000@forbin.syr.edu>
Hi all. For the guys who asked about Birch Hill and Philly. I believe it
took us about an hour and half, maybe a bit longer to get to Birch Hill
last year. If you need directions, I will be coming from there so email
me personaly. The Ticketmaster number in Jersey is 201-507-8900. Beware,
they 'prefer' Mastercard.
For those of you who are Journey fans and don't have the cd, go
get it. I am a huge Journey fan and have been since long before DT. The
new cd is still the same old Journey just with a slightly different sound
to it. I love it personaly. Some of the new stuff is just wonderful to
listen to.
Don't forget to order Birch Hill tickets tomorrow!
Jill ---------- Quazel
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 22:04:21 +0000
From: "Andrew Miller" <subtlerage@mail.gnn.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: minneapolis G3 show
Message-ID: <199611020356.WAA06851@mail-e2b.gnn.com>
heya!
just wanted to let any and all jammers that are attending this show
that i'll be there. i'm sitting in the 12th row, center, according
to my sister who's physically holding the tix. :)
if ya spot a big guy with a pony tail, red goatee, wearing a ytsejam
shirt (or black duster while outside) come up and say hi.
seeya there maybe.
Andrew
(subtlrage on irc)
Andrew Miller - Keyboardist/Vocalist - SubtleRage
http://members.gnn.com/subtlerage - subtlerage@gnn.com
earthlink blows monkeys. they like to cancel accounts for no reason.
avoid their ridiculous service like the plague.
for wav files, surf to http://members.gnn.com/subtlerage/intersam.htm
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:09:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Spock's Beard
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961101231309.21efbd78@access.mountain.net>
At 06:56 AM 11/1/96 -0800, Mark Metzger wrote:
>And, if anyone wants to know how to buy a used CD at new CD prices, contact
>The Laser's Edge.........
Hey Mark, could you enlighten here? I've dealt with LE before and have no
complaints. Just curious.
BTW, I ditto all the comments on Spock's Beard: check 'em out.
Jonathan Byrne, 1L
West Virginia University College of Law
rael@access.mountain.net
http://access.mountain.net/~rael/jdbhome2.htm
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"The yellow jester does not play, but gently pulls the strings
And smiles as the puppets dance
In the court of the crimson king."
-Peter Sinfield, "The Court of the Crimson King", King Crimson
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Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 01:11:02 -0500
From: Dave Hatlee <buster@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1983
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19961102061102.0068cdcc@ee.net>
Hello folks, this is in reference to tiggerdano's ticketmaster defense,
so if you're not into it go ahead and skip to the next post.
Although this will be misconstrued as a flame by many, it is simply
my need to voice a response to a few things tigger had to say here:
>From: TiggerDano@aol.com
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: In defense of "Ticketshafter"
>I have been a loyal DT fan for over four years now and I have been a silent
>but faithful ytse-jammer for a year and a half now. I recently took a job at
>Ticketmaster of Washington/Baltimore for about 5 months this year. During
>which I learned a lot about the way tickets are sold and priced. And I would
>like to share some of my expierience with fellow jammers. Especially in
>light of the current Rush and impending DT tours.
>First of all Ticketmasters Convenience charges and Handling Fee are neither
>wacky or out of line. It is my experience that ridiculous pricing and
>deception is the domain of the auto repair industry(MERCHANTS!!!)
And if you had just gotten a job in the auto repair industry for five
months, I'm inclined to think you would end up justifying their service
charges too.
> Ticketmaster makes all of their money on these charges, not on the price of
>the tickets themselves. Ticketmaster is providing you with a service and
>asks just 3 or 4 dollars in return. If you don't like the service charge
>then get off your ass and buy your tickets at the venue's ticketwindow.
I think that last remark calls for a hearty BLOW ME.
>Ticketmaster is a money saver if you consider the amount of money you spend
>driving to the venue and the time you spend in line. Not to mention that it
>is Ticketmaster's system that makes it possible for us to buy tickets for out
>of state shows without driving to Birch Hill or Hammerjacks or the San Diego
>Sports Arena.
And I suppose if it weren't for ticketmaster none of us would find a
convenient way to network tickets to shows, and all the bands would stop
playing.
>Ticketmaster is also the responsible for slowing down scalpers. If it
>weren't for those 6 ticket limits they impose on us.
People who scalp tickets are successful at it because they know many
ways around the silly 6 ticket limit. Like many other rules & laws, it is only
creating an inconvenience for the people you claim the rule is protecting.
>It would be impossible
>for any of us to go to a big show like Metallica or Neil Diamond without
>paying whatever the scalpers want.
I think it's great that you're convinced ticketmaster is the greatest thing
since sliced bread, but I find it difficult to let anyone be led under the
impression that they are protecting us, or that we wouldnt be able to get
tickets for shows at good prices without them. I think that notion is
ridiculous. What do you think music did before ticketmaster?
5 months in the employ of ticketmaster doesn't seem to warrant your
suggestion that I 'get off my ass' for anything, nor does it signify
to me that they would actually consider telling you the truth about
where the money from their greedy little service charges goes.
In addition to the many wonderful features I've discovered with ticketmaster
comes the dissappearing seat feature. You know, the one that when you
are in line at the ticketmaster counter and ask for seats in a specific
section you get "Im sorry there are none available", then the guy 3 people
behind you in line scores seats in that very section?? You know that one?
It pissed me off so bad one day getting tickets that I stood in line and
watched each person come through until I proved it to the bitch that gave
me attitude behind the counter because I insisted that I knew there were
seats available there. 20 minutes after being told by ticketmasters computer
that there were no seats left in section C, I watched this girl sell someone
2 seats in that very section. Ticketmaster can blow me. I have seen this
happen with their 'convenience' service on SEVERAL occasions.
Maybe I just read this post after a bad day or something, or maybe I just
have a personal problem with ticketmaster all together. In either case,
I felt compelled to respond to this post.
buster
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Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 02:02:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1983
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.961102020111.20107B-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>
On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Brian Hayden wrote:
> You all fucking suck! My email is hayd0029@tc.umn.edu My name is Brian D.
> Hayden. One of your asshole members signed me up under a bunch of diferent
> names and addresses and YOU BETTER GET ME THE FUCK OFF YOUR FUCKING LIST
> RIGHT FUCKING NOW COCKSUCKERS! For the record, his name is James Mohr, his
> email is jpmohr@primenet.com and you should all send him as much junk mail
> as possible! He's a fucking hypocrite asshole!
Yeah, but I bet he doesn't swear as much you.
BIRCH HILL TICKETS TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brandon
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Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 01:57:23 -0600
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1981
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961102075723.006ee1e8@enteract.com>
>You know, there used to be a time when I'd look forward
>to Bafu and Mike Bahr posts. They were the saving
>grace of the jam. But now it appears that those days are
>gone. As evidenced by Mike's latest post, a defensive and
>unclassy one at that, the jam just isn't what it used to be.
>I'm now averaging 1 quality piece of info per 5 jams.
>
>Sometimes I wonder why I haven't unsubscribed....
No one's holding you here. If you want to complain, find someone who cares.
If you want change, you have to work towards it. Shit doesn't happen
because you decree that it should be so.
>Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 00:11:27 -0500
>From: TiggerDano@aol.com
>Subject: In defense of "Ticketshafter"
May I say that this title ALONE takes balls to type.
>First of all Ticketmasters Convenience charges and Handling Fee are neither
>wacky or out of line.
You're a weird guy, in a weird world then, my friend.
>Ticketmaster makes all of their money on these charges, not on the price of
>the tickets themselves.
We grasp this concept fully, and have for some time.
> Ticketmaster is providing you with a service and
>asks just 3 or 4 dollars in return. If you don't like the service charge
>then get off your ass and buy your tickets at the venue's ticketwindow.
$3-4?!?!? Tell that to the people that sold my G3 tickets. Perhaps you
should aim at like $6-7. There is no such thing as "Handling" the tickets.
That's like a grocery clerk charging handling fees for gving you your
groceries in a bag... what's next? Cart Rental? Further I appreciate the
insinuation that we all lazy and not just EMPLOYED. You can't always go on
a whim to a Venue's ticket window. TicketBastard is helpful in that
respect.... but many venues themselves charge TicketMaster fees.
>Ticketmaster is a money saver if you consider the amount of money you spend
>driving to the venue and the time you spend in line.
No. It doesn't take $5-7 to get to and from most shows. And they didn't
save me from my 4 hour wait for the G3 show tonight (I'll go into detail in
a moment)
>Ticketmaster is also the responsible for slowing down scalpers.
I've never paid more than $10 over ticket price from a scalper. I would not
be at all pleased if I were to lose the option of getting a ticket after a
show has sold out.
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Now.... My G3 Experience!
I don't need Dream Theater or Fates Warning or any of the bands I'm into
anymore. This concert put every live performance I've EVER seen before to
SHAME. There is no greater stage performer than Steve Vai. There just
isn't... he was SO on targer... SO perfect.... and still TOTALLY amusing.
They came out and after the first tune Steve came up to the mic and said "Oh
my, I think this is gonna be a good night!" because the crowd was so TOTALLY
eating up his performance. Mike Keneally is far beyond how great I thought
he was... They played The Attitude Song, Little Alligator, The first tune
off Fire Garden, Blue Powder, the Animal, For the Love of God, Tender
Surrender ( I think that's the one it was... it was off Alien Love
Secrets... I'm no good with instrumental song titles! ) and Bad Horsie. I
may have missed one or two.
There is no reason to speak about the rest of the concert... it left little
impression. Eric has no stage presence and I have seen Satch a few times
already... this was just another concert for him... nothing new here.
I had to stand out in the freezing cold for 4 hours to get to the front row.
I met some dude who has TONS and TONS and TONS of bootleg videos... he told
me I could represent him on the jam.... so tell me what your looking for and
I'll find it through him for ya. We didn't get backstage because we were
impatient and wanted to get t shirts after the show instead of hanging on to
the CHANCE that the people who told us they'd get us backstage would
actually come back down from the aftershow party... but we did meet Mike
Keneally and he's a great guy.... I stopped him as he was walking buy and
he was very cool about just stopping to talk. If you still have an
opportunity to see this show.... you will never realize the magnitude of the
experience that you risk missing. It was just dumbfounding to see someone
play like that.... andI've seen LOTS of shredders.... no one holds a candle
to Vai anymore... there were contenders ysterday... but they've vanished
like dust.
See G3, or be passed by!
"I'm afraid of politicians who have no hobbies." - A.R.U.
Christopher Ptacek EnterAct, L.L.C. We don't suck.
We now have proof.
http://www.enteract.com (312) 248-8511
"#1 ISP in the Midwest, #3 in the USA."
- C|Net (http://www.cnet.com)
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Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 02:26:32 -0600
From: David Alderman <alde0004@gold.tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: what a surprise!
Message-ID: <327B05B8.1E3C@gold.tc.umn.edu>
This evening I turned on the television to watch the Timberwolves game
(which they won- a sure sign that the apocalypse is nigh) and when they
were doing the big introduction with all the smoke and lights they were
playing Metropolis. Needless to say I was quite surprised.
David
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Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 04:13:16 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Hard Rock
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.961102041219.78544E-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
This rocks!!! I never would have thought I'd hear so much support for 80s
hard rock on the jam. I'll sleep very well tonight.
Richie
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