YTSEJAM Digest 1997
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1995
by "Eddie J Cooper" <eddie@abacus.co.uk>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1995
by Stan <stys@hotmail.com>
3) gospel
by <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
4) Aynsley DUNBAR
by Eddy M <edrock@connexus.apana.org.au>
5) Title......
by svjohnson@amoco.com
6) Re: James is heavy metal
by Geir Botterli <geirb@hekta.iet.hist.no>
7) Some thoughts about LiT, and some more.
by Geir Botterli <geirb@hekta.iet.hist.no>
8) Stop yuh bitchin', 'cuz it's.......POST TIME!
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
9) Tough call!
by David Neff <dneff@maaco.com>
10) DT thread
by BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
11) Dream theater
by rjohnson@cole.sinclair.edu
12) Response to defining Adrian Legg & MYSTERY!!!!!!!!
by Blenardo Enfericious Zonnzguender <tritt@eden.rutgers.edu>
13) More Drive-By Comments...
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
14) Thoughts & Replies to many posts 1?
by Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:29:48 +0000
From: "Eddie J Cooper" <eddie@abacus.co.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1995
Message-ID: <9611061126.AA26002@sphinx>
> > Subject: Re: WDADU worth buying?
> >
> > The production on this album is bad...
>
> Opinion.
My opinion too... too tinny and sharp... kinda like Mindcrime in
comparison with Empire...
> > better get the same songs with LaBrie singing
> > I know theres an album with those songs....
>
> It's a bootleg called "When Dream and Today Unite."
Are you serious... is it live or studio? ... does it contain all the
tracks? ... is it a complete rerecord or just a dub with new vocals?
.. where the f**k can I get it? H E L P ! ! !
********************************************************************************
Disclaimer: Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental. Any resemblance
between the above and my own views is non-deterministic. The question of the
existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold them is left as an exercise
for the reader. The question of the existence of the reader is left as an
exercise for the second god coefficient.
********************************************************************************
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 07:14:13 +0000
From: Stan <stys@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1995
Message-ID: <32803AC5.5AD@hotmail.com>
> Godot.
as a new album title, they could call it mustard or
cheesecake for all i care, what counts is the music
which is the important part of why i buy it.
-- Stan Tyszka drums and bass SSTYS@EARTHLINK.NET STYS@HOTMAIL.COM (((THIS SPACE FOR RENT)))------------------------------
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:08:18 +2000 From: <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool" To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: gospel Message-ID: <199611061215.OAA10118@pepe.online.ee>
> Here is my DTC: WDADU is ten times more complex (and better) than >AWAKE (and thats the truth)
..and on the seventh day I praised what I liked and put down what I didn't and cursed everyone that disagreed, for I speak the truest gospel of all, which should never be questioned.
Raitz
"One of nature's greatest wonders is the ability of the human ear to distinguish among a million of sounds around us. Listen!"
"BBBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!"
Devin Townsend & Strapping Young Lad
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 22:35:15 -0800 From: Eddy M <edrock@connexus.apana.org.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Aynsley DUNBAR Message-ID: <32818323.2270@connexus.apana.org.au>
Englishman Dunbar did four albums with Zappa and also toured with Frank before being a founding member of Journey. He left/was sacked by Journey after the Infinity album in 1978. He even had some litigation happening against the band. After that he played with Jefferson Starship (who then became Starship) And he did play on Whitesnake's 1987 along with John Skyes on guitar and Neil Murray on bass.
Eddy M Melbourne, Australia
-------------------------------------- * EDDY M *
(03) 9830 1142
Beat Magazine Rock n Hard column Melbourne, Australia --------------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 96 07:47:49 -0600 From: svjohnson@amoco.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Title...... Message-ID: <199611061348.AA20035@interlock.amoco.com>
I don't get it. This, to me, is like asking what the set list for a gig was. Why do people care so damn much about the title of an album? Is it gonna change the CD contents? Will you not go to the show? If you're sooooo worried about it, just use electrical tape on the jewel case. On another note.....calling all Jason Becker benefit goers!!! Who's up for some bloddy mary's before the show. A perfect way to start the Sunday! E-mail me if interested. I live with 10 minutes of the Riv and know of some bars to hit, first. Finally, for those who post way un-related items because you're bored (happened recently), go outside and do something productive, but don't post! There's more to life than the computer. :) LATER- Steve
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 17:03:07 +0100 From: Geir Botterli <geirb@hekta.iet.hist.no> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: James is heavy metal Message-ID: <3.0.32.19961106165808.006a02a0@hekta.iet.hist.no>
>Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 01:37:38 -0500 (EST) >From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: James is heavy metal >Message-ID: <199611050637.BAA11901@beasley.cris.com> > >>From: Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net> >>Subject: Re: WDADU worth buying? >> >>I don't really care for James's treatment of "The >>Killing Hand" & "Fortune in Lies", because he gets to "heavy metal" with it >>(if you know what I mean). Charlie's voice was more controlled maybe? > >You're right about James "metallizing" those tunes, especially near the end >of The Killing Hand. But you know, despite how silly it seems, I really >enjoy it. The funny thing about my enjoyment of it, is that I've gotten away >from Metal and Prog for a while, and when I started digging DT, they were as >close to Metal as I'd get. But now, my Metal-years have been rekindled, and >James' metallizing is welcomed by me. >
I agree. I like that James are "screaming" now and then. But then again, DT is one of the "nicest" group i really like. I don't think that so many other jammers than me that are into Black/Goth/Doom Metal. DT is my favorites though! >-Rick >
-- Geir Botterli XMIR geirb@hekta.iet.hist.no DT rules.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 17:03:15 +0100 From: Geir Botterli <geirb@hekta.iet.hist.no> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Some thoughts about LiT, and some more. Message-ID: <3.0.32.19961106165900.006a42d8@hekta.iet.hist.no>
Hi! I have some rather deep thoughts about LiT :) I got the Live in Tokyo a couple of days ago. It's great! I've seen it at least 6 times already. I had never heard To Live Forever before, but it was superb! I was just wondering.. why was Mike P and John P shaved? Does the japanese have a thing against facial hair? just a thought... :)
I have a catalog (Record Heaven) where they sell Instrumental I,II and III. There is also an album called Classic Live, and Excellent/Live N.Y. '93. They are all priced slightly above normal CD-price. What are they, and are they worth getting?
Thanks
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 16:08:47 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov> To: Yts <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Stop yuh bitchin', 'cuz it's.......POST TIME! Message-ID: <3280B80F.446B@mailstorm.dot.gov>
>> From: Jhon W Happe <jared@stlnet.com>
>> i would like to say that i hope dole gets his ass whoped!im very pissed >> that my parents are voting for him (most conservative people make me >> sick)
> From: Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
> Thank you. Very informative and objective. The Jam is a better place now.
Bet your YtseClintonAss it is :):)
> "Who do you most want to see open for DT?"
C'mon, Chris, the Clinton/Wynton duo, of course. Can you come up with a concoction any more progressive? (I can hear the wheels spinning :)
> From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net> > Subject: Onomatopoeia
Third door on your right...
-----------
> after three releases and an EP, you've got a wealth of great material to > pick from.
Hmm, that's interesting. I was thinking just the opposite, that perhaps the reason we're all so damn edgy is because they have so few songs :) I imagine the day when playing all the releases back-to-back will take more than a day! That's what is great for me with bands like Yes, Tull, Zappa and other bands with MANY albums out...
-----------
Think it was Rock 101 GIR out of New Hampshire played TfE last night and then followed it up with Half The World (is that the title?). Rush has managed to get inside me once again by fusing the message in the lyrics with the sound. Well done!
-----------
About the Portnoy clinic at the Ocean State in Pawt. RI: If anyone wants to go and needs a ride, lemme know. General admission on the YtseTruck, so it's first come first serve. Brian gets first choice of seats, though :)
Oh yeah, there's a seperate power outlet next to the cigarette adapter, so if you want to bring amps and shred down 95 South, I'll rip the voltage regulator out and throw a few extra batteries under the hood. I also do quality house wiring, in case anyone is interested (please, please, one at a time) 240? 120? What's the difference, just slap a freakin' resistor in there and shut up :)
Oops, time for the Ritalin shot.....
Regards,
Jon
*------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------*
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:20:19 -0500 From: David Neff <dneff@maaco.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Tough call! Message-ID: <01BBCBD4.81E870E0@W10148>
------ =_NextPart_000_01BBCBD4.81E9F780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hey Jammers!
Why do these things happen to me? Rush and Type O Negative on the same night in Philly. I've seen each band once. As it turns out, I have no choice, and I'm going to TON instead of Rush. Normally it would be no contest, but I've got a back-stage pass to TON. To see Rush, or to see TypeO, and meet them as well.
What would you rather do?
- Dave (dneff@maaco.com)
------ =_NextPart_000_01BBCBD4.81E9F780 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
eJ8+IhkQAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAAAEAAAEAAAAMAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAAOwAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHl0c2VqYW1AYXguY29t AFNNVFAAeXRzZWphbUBheC5jb20AAB4AAjABAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgADMAEAAAAPAAAAeXRz ZWphbUBheC5jb20AAAMAFQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEwAQAAABEAAAAneXRzZWphbUBheC5jb20n AAAAAAIBCzABAAAAFAAAAFNNVFA6WVRTRUpBTUBBWC5DT00AAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAAIB9g8B AAAABAAAAAAAAALYKQEEgAEADAAAAFRvdWdoIGNhbGwhAOQDAQWAAwAOAAAAzAcLAAYACwAUABMA AwAZAQEggAMADgAAAMwHCwAGAAsAAAASAAMABAEBCYABACEAAABERjk2QkM0RUU3MzdEMDExOUM3 NjAwNjA4Q0VCOUQ1QQBXBwEDkAYAwAUAABMAAAALACMAAAAAAAMAJgAAAAAACwApAAAAAAADADYA AAAAAEAAOQBw/iRn/su7AR4AcAABAAAALQAAAFVzICYgVGhlbTogdGhlIFN5bXBob25pYyBXb3Jr cyBvZiBQaW5rIEZsb3lkAAAAAAIBcQABAAAAGwAAAAG7y3/eeRXabGM3KBHQrVhERVNUAAAAHu85 IAAeAB4MAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AHwwBAAAAEAAAAGRuZWZmQG1hYWNvLmNvbQADAAYQavYY jQMABxAjAQAAHgAIEAEAAABlAAAASEVZSkFNTUVSU1dIWURPVEhFU0VUSElOR1NIQVBQRU5UT01F P1JVU0hBTkRUWVBFT05FR0FUSVZFT05USEVTQU1FTklHSFRJTlBISUxMWUlWRVNFRU5FQUNIQkFO RE9OQ0VBUwAAAAACAQkQAQAAACkEAAAlBAAAlwgAAExaRnVNTt9OdwAJAzABAjEAUAEBC2Bu4Gcx MDMzAfcB8Q4BEwRVAgBjaArAc2V0wQLRcHJxMSAIVQeyVwKAApEI5jsJbzAS32X4MjU1FAoVIRTf FekT9H8WEhR/GE8YDRePFb8UD2X4MTI4Hdoe8R6vH7kT9H8f4h5PIh8h3SFfH48jVDk+MiaVKAEg IygAAoJzdNR5bAeQaAngdAAAA/AwZGN0bAqzD5NzMcI2AzBzbmV4EMAHsPcFsADAAnMqCNArMCvQ AGAAZGRpdGl2ZSCiRAEQYXVsBUBQCsCCYQnAYXBoIEYCIb0pMzEdQCo3CiALIHIJUGUwInMwE3c0 HUEQkHDTAdAqy2JhEKBkAiABQN8rgy9QLhAFEAIwLS6wA2EQOiBUbzRQU3ViCmoFkHQ0UERhdGX6 Oi8ENi9/MI8xkynALRA/C4AOkBaQLOEMMCrkMjIzMm8zeFJlLXAQkSBI7mUtEASQLwQ3Ng83Hzgr njA/0DkoNeEOZDI0Oe/MMTg7gQtQeS8uwDEQ+wsRPAVzLwQgADz/Pg8xr19Br0K6NHI0FDVFfQFV M+Y2AUAqMW93KmBFMQGA3m400ABgCfAtIG8A4AIQfywQOHItgAIAELEscjVgbUcLUTVgEUA6XFwF 4E9RASBpY2VOkFcLgHebBbALMFxN8AtwbC46UP50SnAQoCpgQ1BAwAuAK6BbAUBMQW4p0BLwICxy cGMAgAWQbHZsAFBSQHX9BQBtUjIBkAAgUsILgAEA/wIwAcFSMRBwDoAAAFJADND5AZAgLhISUigo EFLiLfDvROBTX1RvVX8zUjEFgVcf01gvWT9sNFIxbFbfW599XKUpVawdQFp/X19clGL8ICgCkWB/ UnM18F4vYu//Y/9lD1KgPNBmUlMvZ79oz39VrCAAZl9r32zvbf9SoDn/as9wX3FvcnUK+QMwKj8r QcE8EHkgSmFtB4AQkGYhCoUKhVdoeYA6UCB+dCnQO+F7cDixBCAQcHBecAnwe2B7UAeAPwfwdS0p wCAAcElBeXxwIE99B7FnNVAtYgIge2IKhXNnebAtgAMAZ2gFQHfhUIV74GxCwC4gSSctce8QoHyB PCAQYCA6EH2BAiD7TxCAwEEEIC1Ae2AIcAYxaQhgdCwKhUl8MS1xbmt7UBBgb08BLH1jgOBtHCBn hLAOgHyiVE9O74AhKXA8IX6gZn0TgMAr9L9CwAqFgrFPgC3gQ1BihET/AiEHkINggcCDUIDUhZAF QKNc8DoQY2stdFFnLYD3CrAEEYX0LgqFNHCBIn0T34TwBbF8sYzifbJPhPQHgN8QsHtihXA6IIiA ZYCQjDZfCvN4CnqXNVCIhXkIYCDvLkB7cQXAOlA/eiwz8DVAbS1xKFGQARFAAMAA0G+SLgWgbSkK hX0AlmAAAAADABAQAAAAAAMAERAAAAAAQAAHMOCMVJv7y7sBQAAIMOCMVJv7y7sBHgA9AAEAAAAB AAAAAAAAAAMADTT9NwAA3cE=
------ =_NextPart_000_01BBCBD4.81E9F780--
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 09:46:49 -0700 From: BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT thread Message-ID: <s2806009.024@IOMEGA.COM>
yo jamlings, Someone said to start up some old threads. I'm not sure about that but I do have one. I've been on the jam for over 2 years now and I don't recall having seen this one. Only the older ytsevets will know for sure. Mainly this is for those who have TSM single. On it is TTT, but a demo version differing from the I&W version. Some parts on the demo version I think are better than what was released on I&W. Primarily, James' harmonies and samplings of his voice are I think better produced than the release. Also, there's more Kevin keys and they are more up front. On the down side, there's a spot where it sounds like Mike screwed up in the bridge where James sings 'I can see much clearer now I'm blind'. What do you think? I would've liked to have heard a combination of the two versions. I miss the sample at the first of the song, it isn't there on the demo but the Italian phrase is.
Hopefully, this wasn't already beat to death before I got on the jam. Let's talk about this.
Wilmo
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:05:20 -0500 From: rjohnson@cole.sinclair.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dream theater Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.961106120328.22273A-100000@cole.sinclair.edu>
Mike Portnoy is hosting a clinic at Hauer Music in Dayton, Ohio on 11/10/96. I'm interested in DREAM THEATER TAB!
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 96 12:14:38 EST From: Blenardo Enfericious Zonnzguender <tritt@eden.rutgers.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Response to defining Adrian Legg & MYSTERY!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <CMM-RU.1.5.847300478.tritt@er6.rutgers.edu>
Hello fellow jammers, Well, its been a "really really" long time since I wrote in but one message in particular was bothersome to me. PROGROCKBOY wrote in YTSEJAM DIGEST #1992 that Adrian Legg is a shredder. According to my definition he is one as well, in fact, I share the same definition as Nick's. However, I cannot categorize Legg's music as folk. Rick, I am not flaming you at all... this is just my opinion about the categorization of Adrian Legg's genre. I believe Legg's style seems to adopt many different styles which include medieval and classical music, British folk, and a genre which hasn't been introduced yet claimed only by Legg. Anybody as unique as Adrian cannot be "fit" into a specific category. Dream Theater is another example. I, personally do not believe Dream Theater is a progressive rock, progressive metal band, or whatever. They are a band whose styles encompass many different styles, one of which is progressive rock. However, if you listen to WDADU, one finds a lot of classical influence, standard and progressive rock not to mention a whole slew of other genres. Its like this, Dream Theater is a rock band with MANY different influences one of which happens to be progressive music. Does this mean that one should categorize a band by only one influence? No, all this means is that one CANNOT completely categorize a band that has such a vast difference in influence. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dori Tritt "Like a scream but sort of silent" tritt@eden.rutgers.edu - John Petrucci screamer@dreamt.org A W A K E A STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:36:20 -0800 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: More Drive-By Comments... Message-ID: <199611061736.JAA13875@main.cfmc.com>
Adrian Legg: Yeah, he's folk. And bluegrass. And country. He's inherited a tradition of folk musics....several of which were popular in England at the appropriate time. Calling him a Country musician IS a little bit of a misnomer, but that's certainly a part of his makeup....after all, there was an American Country scene in England (that talked a lot to the Skiffle musicians) about the same time Blues became prevalent there. Mark Knopfler is another example of a musician influenced by exported Country. And, certainly, there's a strong relationship between Folk and Country -- in fact, one might be very accurate to say that Bluegrass may very well be that intersection on amphetamines. Other Country/Folk folks: Rickie Lee Jones, Steve Earle, Nanci Griffith...although I guess I'd have to say there's a dose of rock in all three of 'em, too.
Content of this list: Basically, there are two types of lists that one can assemble -- a "Purpose" list and a "Community" list. Of course, all lists are neither one or the other, but exist on some continuum, combining both elements. But a "Purpose" list basically stays "on target"...containing only discussion those things explicitly the subject. A "Community" list brings togther a number of people with a similar interest or interests and contains discussions of issues that relate to the subject of the list. For example, it seems a number of people who like Dream Theater like Lemur Voice, Rush, King's X, and Shadow Gallery. This is an issue worth discussing...it's an issue that brings most of us together....and we can mull over why one person likes Pink Floyd better than IQ, where someone else hates the entire Floyd catalog. Handled well (that is, without a whole lot of sniping about preferences), we get a load of good INFORMATION, along with recognition within the list (for example, some of you are aware that along with Progressive Music, I have a great fondness for Jazz). But if you're only looking for a source for Dream Theater information, this is not the most efficient way to collect it. So you've really gotta figure out whether you're looking at a load of chaff or interesting conversation here.
And this is where we're at something of a crossroads. The Voices mailing list is finally getting going, where you've got a moderated forum for discussing Dream Theater. This is good. What I think might do our ENTIRE community of fans is for all of us to evaluate where we want both lists to go. I think you can already see what I'm saying and leaning towards -- I LIKE this list as a "Community" and would hate to see us trim too much "fat." I like the notion of self-editing and think, despite the volume, that this list is worthwhile reading.
This message has been brought to you by the Coalition to Preserve Mailing List Rights.
Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com
Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Rush: Test For Echo 2. Sublime: Sublime 3. Megadeth: Youthanasia 4. Led Zeppelin: IV 5. Dokken: Beast From The East
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:33:42 -0600 From: Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Thoughts & Replies to many posts 1? Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=GE%l=AMERIDATA/ADNC/0006ECE8@msb01ncadctmsge.ameridata.com>
>>>>>>> The production on this album is bad...
Opinion. > better get the same songs with LaBrie singing > I know theres an album with those songs....
It's a bootleg called "When Dream and Today Unite."
Since it is a boot, don't expect the *best production* on WDATU either. Mike Bahr has done an excellent job of gathering and *cleaning up* the material from various sources of various quality for the true DT aficionado.
>>>>>Onomatopoeia > > Anybody remember this word from English class?
Words that are pronounced in such a way to *imitate* the sound they represent. *Hiss* is a commonly used example. *Sucks* also comes to mind.
>>>> an old Radio Shack TRS-80
The Trash 80, the first true *personal computer* the boat anchors that they are.
>>>>> I can't believe I've read about four posts involving the use of "country-ish" when referring to Adrian Legg, and not once has the term Blue-grass popped up....
I had forgotten about him when suggesting good acoustic guitar. He plays very well, if you like his style. Its is more along the B-G line. And he does record for *Relativity* -the guitarists recording label.
>>>>> Btw, I've seen a bunch of stuff from Angra at the local store.
Thanks for the input so far. I live in city of half a million, and even the biggest *record* stores suck when it comes to prog-metal. I found Shadow Gallery's *Craved in Stone* in the used CDs. How it got there I don't know. They don't even carry it in their regular new stock. Heaven forbid they carry any of the bands I've asked about.
(c)rap/beebop/r&b/country sucks real hard; simplistic music for simpletonic minds. EMpTV
BTW, I'm using a pre-release marketing beta of Microsoft Office 97 to write this post. The corporation I work for gets most of the MS pre-releases for PC's. MSO97 is pretty kewl, although it can be a memory hog at times. Great new interfaces/OLEs,etc.
begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(AL1`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$(@ <` M& ```$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`0F `0`A````13E!-S<V M,C=!03,W1# Q,4%$-3@T-#0U-3,U-# P,# `X@8!(( #``X```#,!PL`!@`+ M`#D`%0`#`$ !`06 `P`.````S <+``8`"P`A`"H``P`]`0$-@ 0``@````(` M`@`!!( !`"0```!4:&]U9VAT<R F(%)E<&QI97,@=&\@;6%N>2!P;W-T<R Q M/P!1# $#D 8`O X``"0````+``(``0```$ `.0!@P):G",R[`1X`< `!```` M) ```%1H;W5G:'1S("8@4F5P;&EE<R!T;R!M86YY('!O<W1S(#$_``(!<0`! M````%@````&[S BF'"=VI^HWJA'0K5A$15-4``````,`!A!=KJ-$`P`'$+D% M```>``@0`0```&4```!42$504D]$54-424].3TY42$E304Q"54U)4T)!1$]0 M24Y)3TY"151415)'15142$5304U%4T].1U-7251(3$%"4DE%4TE.1TE.1TE+ M3D]75$A%4D5304Y!3$)535=)5$A42$]3``````,`$! '`````P`1$ $````" M`0D0`0```,@*``#$"@``*!<``$Q:1G4`B2CL`P`*`')C<&<Q,C5R,@Q@8S$# M, $'"V!ND0X0,#,S#Q9F90^23P'W`J0#8P(`8V@*P'.$970"T7!R<3(``)(J M"J%N;Q)0(# !T(4!T#8/H# U,#04(?,!T!00-'T';0*#`% #U/L1_Q,+8A/A M%% 3LACT%-#[!Q,5Y#463Q=?&&<4%!C2>13186@#<17D%% :?C(4,S@;A" = MY"!#1<\>118_&7$?_7ER'D4/P%D:C3$V(6$@&D<)T6O?'D4BD21>#E @"U0( M<!Y%41IO,3@V'_Q"!T!TKPW@`H "D0CF.PEO,"T?^F4.,#4N2B]A+Q\P*2XT M_S!2+K\RCS)-,<\O_RY/$&#\,C@X&CDQ..\Y^2XT.B*_.(\\7SP=.Y\YSSV4 M.0Y0'T#D0D$Z8T) `H)S='GJ; >0: G@= ``$U #\%!D8W1L"K%<1)AAF&1J M=4.P!1!G: 5".R%B# %C"<!$H ,P<V[\97@;8 >P!; `P )S$Q"<8W,/D ,P M1=!D:2P02G83@$0!$&%U+ `@"E *P&$)P&%P:"!.1@(A0W,:4FDM#Y XN0% M;&E+PT1_1.-B"R#><@E03>(:T$WB=RFQ3> \<W !T$D"1?]'"&)A_1M 9 (@ M2/%'DQI02B %$*T","U*P -A.B!0;U- 4%-U8FH%D'130$3P871E.DL4*O%+ MKTR__TW/3M]/YT0`3Z +@ X22/&?##!&I Y04/]2#E)E28!Q&S$@2&5/H 20 M2Q0W?U3_5@]7'U@M"&!$T N 9;M#X$F ; % 61]:(C!E`.4(T&(*L'0X6IA? M(0]C?C(BD%M?4@5ED%U@"U!YWB]*T%A "Q%=U7-+%!_A_U[?7^]@_UA/3^]F M_V@/:13W4V)3!%0Y.6M/17\#,&5#/CEO(BG";Y]<.'8P1&_\8W4'@ (P!=!* MD$-S# '\<V$.(&L_=*]O'W=?;C&Z0@1P>2!01[%(9C(.D6]))PH@?3A(X5-[ MX (@9[\L07KB>D!Z@&SA`8!N4\!_`& )\$DP>* "`4@@6>)EEP#P>*!#P' P MP%QV")#T=VL+@&0BD(2B!/ '0/\080% #@!LLD00>Y"&!0(0WF\%0AM1$O)4 M4&T+451042# .EQ<4I!O2G%M;TK `Q 'D(BP30W@`V!S<F\!@"!/`2 -X(/P M7*V*9D4`P ,0+EP0=('0;QM >H!'86,"> % @P%N[T00+3",!$G$8P,@$O,` M@/$%D&QV; !0CJ .<$@@_XZ2`9 `((\BA/%XX0'!CI$_&Q /< ``CJ ,T &0 M("[_+%*.B Y0CT(L`'K0C[^0SW^1WP_ CJ %@9-_E(^5GVR[(I".H&R3/Y?_ MF04ID@S?*<"6WYN_F/2 <"@"D9S?_X[3*O":CY]/H%^A;X\`7J#_HK*/CZ0? MI2^2#!_@HK^H/_^I3ZI?CP!SD*<_K,^MWZ[D^PKYC&(S$_!Z+WL_?$X(P;9F M6S5'X#ZXPP*1=K@+UB L8K@H5$00(!N@!'"7#G L$ (@(+OA=&@$`&H@!T!B M>, @O&%;T&3^+KU0"H6SI ,PM.^U_PC!_[ADO8NT!GF?ON^V;[=YN&3\3W + M@+O1O7RT#\-/Q%]WMSRY7[@*8AM05% %P&?_&U"\,1. PK '@,[ @8$$(,,# M\+Q ($QA0@B!SL ?6B%:(;V&R_^Z3$D@:__(X<Z"+3"\<0.@O)3/@[Q _Q-B MSR.]4;U_R/^_G\"OP;]/PL_7C\J_Q?I)= `0<7YUAT#.L;R O1"',4/@9VX@ MA9%#X(Q29 )@WT17>T00`Z!$+3")(0!P<B)DVF%^L%4#`%10+@`0X/>_V7_( M0MMOW'_=C@J%4PN GXJ@O. %0+QBW],L(%P1O]\F!4!'L(1@Y8#.@RH"D5^ M<,W@0["[60*0*KP"5W!$0515ZL#/D020+MD%T&EK$X KX&@%P!L0_P0@7!$3 M@ .11["*H."!>/'\:F^ <(H@SD!40(TQ6B$_XB/KA(XP7?"Q,>! =7!?[-+. MD@# SA$',2 #4B#^=@K N]#FP,\1"'"*H 0@__!A\^;?0 = 25!^L(-QSH/W MYN *4$F@5+R BH&[T>:0_F_5QN/OVH-J,<B/; ]M'V]N+]V/N!ZZ3$\34/,! M;_1P;^V@8?@_R$_EK_UO'\M_T<_9*P9_NDQ!;GGOZ:!^H2TPSO!MS>#V,NE1 M[G?V($=@\Y-%#W!JX$0`\_'!6^!S/]7?`X_7_@VU_E<,0>E@SZ!40+R +3"[ M4MT8$'7HX4=@`L%SDR!*L)\@L&D@?K !0.MU:6U)4/]40?*&]&'B0<Z1"S(; MH-/0]WCA[@#KA$@:L>S2Z5,LD/QM;>RP:,#R4%OQZL&)(,^(,.,0ZW53H&-K M%S.\D/^*$!?"T]$3P11@@Q#WO?_6O[ADNC.X9-0!+*!'8%):`1T3T%,DT!G M(%!24RWO:K <B/?,NR)42E -(6JP_^G@SI)J8"3PSG'VHNN#N$;?A& D\/=A M\W 7T7!BX&FP_QR(\J3IH!'"Z.#4\"?0$93_%:,1\1M?N,$=*=,@A9#J*?_- MX&K@77'3$-\F28'AX4=@?F'IH&+@]@'T@+M0U0!T^^E@`L!V'@"$H/$!SI(8 M89_P4N#9&H 2@ 40>2T-$=_C.<]PX9(X,(> <O#C$\&N0?N@`9 "T$S@,&?I MX/_Q,A)@AU#LL.CQ[L+V4VFP=0RP0D 1+4IQ%R L07#_A&!'8/)@U9(?;PVU MTR!9\?WV`F>'0%10U!$KL[Q0U''_X9(3$#'0Z_'P\C= NX"\@.LNL3CQ8\Y M=11Q[?%=T;N[4 *@>>E@78%^L'?OL=7IX&GP<'GU4"!JX.Y!_[Q20[/N`-\` M+)'I8!@`$@''O)"!@<Z#0BU'/&%'H/_N``K01V"[,5P0T]%"`!J _PQ2]B$B MNUU@B$%)</71))K^+<Z2.C07$"R!0#3P\@*@QRH1)S\H3$)T=^G@*II_7; W M@KT0$H%*L/!A!0!U_XKP\X0*T#0!O(#.=#Y A9'_//$]\34O(&C4`!G0]@<" MP/\D0<\1\X Z<],@:N J80+![_= ]>'P8>[ ;/!PZ8 48/_@@+O1,?1=<;PB M)7%U@#C2_R*L0#0DFDKC]$$9L3 4Z2'S&H>[86<MSO"PP(N@3H+/+ 'B01ZA M@A$@1^!R+P#[WR@BNT.)$"I@$L.!4.\1SR2:`L$M52N 0T35@%W0_]-AZ2$W M0=.$TQ'J"]-"[@#_NR%^L.H,41*%D#"P?K#I(O]1,R(0"T$Z, *@Z*!P\--P M_TKA&<!<$6F 7\*#<5&0%87_8 34`$]S)5/Q,>E@*IIP4"_N0"N%[@#WS*F) M$' O#<W@9>F@9Y!R)F(OORZU5&- $O-A[L#C0#O0,?>((4/!.@%M]6 Z`?82 M:?,?AY#LL&IRA/%<`45-<,145O?,0E171RD,L/]JL?$"NU$SX#!P\>$MH8MP M?G+N0#D#S>'I@/!AB<X@]#DW$[)W=7#J@KQ2+%+[7G,7P7(!8(D0N\/3( PQ M/Q[@]A+.43W"[ %D)4U3,V\:31100]\G[@%33[]R$7+R,'#.`'ZP[D!W.]'_ MO)#4X3BPS[!5$M0!S>!0`O^($/8@?K#4\/$1SG$44-/0_>X`1^'AAU!AH@+ MSA&-X('TH2]/3$5S+(>01F-+,??-?0``?W #`( 0_____PL`"H (( 8````` M`, ```````!&``````.%`````/__`P`,@ @@!@``````P ```````$8````` M$(4````````#``> "" &``````# ````````1@````!2A0``4 T``!X`"( ( M( 8``````, ```````!&`````%2%```!````! ```#@N, `#``F "" &```` M``# ````````1@`````!A0````````L`"X (( 8``````, ```````!&```` M``Z%`````````P`-@ @@!@``````P ```````$8`````$84````````#``^ M"" &``````# ````````1@`````8A0```````!X`$( (( 8``````, ````` M``!&`````#:%```!`````0`````````>`!& "" &``````# ````````1@`` M```WA0```0````$`````````'@`2@ @@!@``````P ```````$8`````.(4` M``$````!``````````,`)@```````P`V```````"`?D_`0```!X````````` MW*= R,!"$!JTN0@`*R_A@@$`````````+@```!X`^#\!````%0```%-Y<W1E M;2!!9&UI;FES=')A=&]R``````(!^S\!````'@````````#<IT#(P$(0&K2Y M" `K+^&"`0`````````N````'@#Z/P$````5````4WES=&5M($%D;6EN:7-T M<F%T;W(`````0 `', #8B-L"S+L!0 `(," #5_4+S+L!`P`--/T_```"`10T M`0```! ```!4E*' *7\0&Z6'" `K*B47'@`]``$````!``````````L`*0`` M````"P`C```````"`7\``0```$@````\8SU54R5A/5\E<#U'125L/4%-15)) M1$%402]!1$Y#+S P,#9%0T4X0&US8C Q;F-A9&-T;7-G92YA;65R:61A=&$N '8V]M/@"'9TY# ` end
------------------------------
End of YTSEJAM Digest 1997 **************************
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b30 : Thu Apr 01 2004 - 17:58:54 EST