YTSEJAM Digest 2023
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Y T S E ????
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
2) quick addition to the y t s e post :)
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
3)
by Steve Yackira <yackisf0@seraph1.sewanee.edu>
4) info of a boring and trivial nature
by "Kevin W. Madden" <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
5) G3
by ORBITMIS@aol.com
6) Bafu Vai on Eric Johnson
by "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
7) Re:
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
8) Re: JS, SV, EJ vs. JP
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
9) Re:
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
10)
by "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
11) Re:
by "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
12) band names
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
13) TSO - Christmas Eve / Sarajevo 12-24 Video
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
14) Psych background?
by Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net>
15) Re: band names
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
16) Downloading real audio files?
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
17) Sava Fanzine -- The Unholy
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
18) Re: band names
by MIKA NUMMINEN <te95mne@student.hgs.se>
19) Re: band names (NDTC)
by saveur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:10:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Cliff Totten <Cliff_Totten@discovery.com>
Subject: Re: Y T S E ????
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961113181009.9891D-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> Can anyone tell me what " YTSE" actually is ??? ( yes, I know it's a track off
> WDADU........what else ?? )
YTSE by itself doesn't mean jack shit.
YTSEJAM is MAJESTY (DT's original name) backwards.
____________________________________________
michael b. ostrich - musical consultant
e-mail: syrinx@dreamt.org
syrinx@wicked.stigmata.org
syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
"..and now you're trembling on a rocky ledge, staring down into a
heartless sea. done with life on a razor's egde, nothing's what you
thought it woule be.."
- neil peart.
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:30:22 -0600
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: quick addition to the y t s e post :)
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961113233022.006f848c@mail.inlink.com>
>
>YTSE by itself doesn't mean jack shit.
>
but it makes for a fun prefix!
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:06:27 -0800
From: Steve Yackira <yackisf0@seraph1.sewanee.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19961114020627.006f7248@152.97.1.50>
Hey jammers,
this may be a sort of strange question, but if anyone knows please let me
know. Is anyone in the band very religious??? I have all of DT's albums,
and there seems to be many refrences about God, heaven and Christanity, but
I could be mistaken. Please let me know if you have an answer.
thanx,
steve
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:20:54 -0500 (EST)
From: "Kevin W. Madden" <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
To: park your zamboni here <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: info of a boring and trivial nature
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961113191948.36476922@pop.pipeline.com>
There has been talk of Public Enemy on the list lately. The album upon which
"Bring the Noise" was originally found would be titled, "It Takes a Nation
of Millions to Hold Us Back." And you thought I only knew metal... The
"drummer get wicked" is from a song called "Wicked Drummer" which I believe
was on a different, earlier cd. Don't have it; can't remember the title. Rap
constitutes less then one percent of my 800+
cds.
/me ducks for gloating.
As for Mike Mangini, who can believe he used to be in that shitty metal band
Annihilator? They really sucked except for one cd, "Alice in Hell," which
wasn't all that good, either. They have been called Canada's answer to
Metallica, but if that's your answer, stick to hockey. No offense to the
Canadians (Rick, Bat, etc)
Beavis failed to mention during his ode to IRC that I was the trivia king.
All hail.
You can get up now...
Kevin
Go WINGS!! Bury the Nordalanche! 7:30pm ESPN
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:23:24 -0500
From: ORBITMIS@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: G3
Message-ID: <961113192324_1283820025@emout20.mail.aol.com>
So, how come we can have an educated discussion about these three artists,
but whenever anyone mentions Yngwie Malmsteen, people go ballistic? Is it
his attitude? Can't we discuss his playing without ignoring his ego? Would
somebody who plays guitar (I don't) please write a quick Yngwie overview, on
his playing, style, strengths & weaknesses?
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Date: 13 Nov 96 16:17:34 -0800
From: "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Bafu Vai on Eric Johnson
Message-ID: <199611140040.QAA26019@mailsun2.us.oracle.com>
Bafu wrote (concerning Eric Johnson):
>>He played with his
thumb visible over the top of the neck, something I've never been able to
do.
I have wrestled with the pros and cons of this for a while now. I learned to
play with my thumb over the top, except when fretting barre chords. I believe
that with the thumb on top, your hand is in a much better position for
applying strong, accurate bends. I believe I play with a much better "feel"
when playing this way. Then someone introduced me to legato playing, and I
realized that I couldn't play legato very well unless I pulled my thumb down
to the back of the neck. I had to almost relearn the way I fret notes, and am
still improving upon it. The moral of the story is, I can get by playing both
ways now, and I think it's worthwhile to give it some practice. There are
positive aspects to each style. Note: Eddie Van Halen plays both ways also,
if that means anything. He needs to pull his thumb down for some of his
wide-interval stuff, but he plays solid, dripping-with-feeling lines with that
thumb on top..
later,
-Neil.
"Ivanhoe is a story about a Russian farmer and his tool."
<---Bart Simpson--->
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:44:26 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re:
Message-ID: <199611140044.RAA89736@mustique.u.arizona.edu>
At 04:14 PM 11/13/96 -0800, you wrote:
>Hey jammers,
>
>this may be a sort of strange question, but if anyone knows please let me
>know. Is anyone in the band very religious??? I have all of DT's albums,
>and there seems to be many refrences about God, heaven and Christanity, but
>I could be mistaken. Please let me know if you have an answer.
>
>thanx,
>steve
>
As far as I know:
James Labrie: ?
John Petrucci: Catholic
John Myung: Catholic
Mike Portnoy: Jewish
Kevin Moore: Catholic
Derek Sherinian: ?
I could be mistaken, but that's what I've heard.
Peace be with you and God bless.
~Vince
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:39:31 -0400 (AST)
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: JS, SV, EJ vs. JP
Message-ID: <199611140139.VAA16389@mail.caribe.net>
At 01:03 PM 11/13/96 -0800, you wrote:
> . And if your going to insist on
>"worlds greatest guitar player" titles, what about Yngwie Malmstein??? Is
>that spelled right?
>
>
>
>Eric B. Hansen
>
>
Yngwie Malmsteen used to rule in the 80's ..but he's been stuck there
since...i mean he has been doing the same stuff for years and years..his
last releases ,magnun opus and such are kinda boring.. and even thou he is
extremely fast (and especially with that strat with the high strings) John
is much more inovative and into the 90's ... at least this is all IMO..
Yngwie is great...but hes kinda stuck in the 80's
We Can Learn From the past..but those days are gone..
We can hope for the future..but there may not be one...
DREAM THEATER: A CHANGE OF SEASONS
WOWOWOWWWWWW hoooo wowoW WOWWwwwwww hoooo -Devin Townsend
Email: Calfaro@Caribe.net
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:42:06 -0400 (AST)
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re:
Message-ID: <199611140142.VAA16503@mail.caribe.net>
t 02:26 PM 11/13/96 -0800, you wrote:
>>mike's russian?? ive always thought of portnoy being a greek name
> >...and he sorta looks kinda greek..like when he has his beard he
> >looks like Jesus..eheh ...
>
>
>>>>>>Jesus was Hebrew, not Greek
>
I never said he was greek... i just said Mike looked like Jesus...that was
a completely different thing..i shouldve said it separately...
We Can Learn From the past..but those days are gone..
We can hope for the future..but there may not be one...
DREAM THEATER: A CHANGE OF SEASONS
WOWOWOWWWWWW hoooo wowoW WOWWwwwwww hoooo -Devin Townsend
Email: Calfaro@Caribe.net
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:29:23 -0700
From: "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Message-ID: <199611140232.TAA03148@snowden.micron.net>
>If a band is worried
>about someone picking up their "screw-ups" on tape, then they should
>practice more, then the tapes will be good performances.
I'd hate to tell ya, but you could practice 24/7 and still screw up every
now and then.
>any fan with half a brain is going to listen to a live performance
>before purchasing anything.
You're way outta line here. You state this on the Ytsejam where everyday
recommendations cause someone to put their faith in the fellow jammer and
buy something BEFORE listening to it.
>I used to
>wonder if Mike and Ayn Rand were related, but it was probably a pipe dream
>of mine. Portnoy might be a common name in Russia.
hehe cool I used to be in a band called Pipe Dream. We don't use it
anymore, so if anybody is looking for a swell band name...
>Someone I spoke to at the show thought Vai "relied too heavily on the
>whammy bar,"
If anyone has ever seen JP play live we all know that he uses it quite
extensively too. I don't see anything wrong with that. Why limit
yourself? It's like those grunge bands (Nirvana) that make their drummer
use a 5-7 piece kit, because they don't want to sound "Complicated."
>Enough with the G3 tour already. We all know that they are the
>three top players in the world, regardless of who is better. It's just
>personal taste. But lets keep perspective here folks. None can compare
to
>John Petrucci :) The man is lightning. And if your going to insist on
>"worlds greatest guitar player" titles, what about Yngwie Malmstein??? Is
>that spelled right?
I would agree that JP is better than all of them, and I'm a big fan of
those 3. As far as Yngwie being better than any of the previous 4, I would
say no. Remember, there's more to playing than seeing how many notes you
can play per second.
Peace
Craig Wuthrich
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:00:01 +0000
From: "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re:
Message-ID: <199611140305.UAA24566@cyberhighway.net>
> hehe cool I used to be in a band called Pipe Dream. We don't use it
> anymore, so if anybody is looking for a swell band name...
heheh. My band's name used to be:
Lockjaw, then
Cranium, then
Wasted Angel.
What other people have wacky old names for their first bands?
IbnzRG570 aka Mr. Chuckalupugus
"Life is Precious. All of life. And one must try to
take in as much of it as possible." -- Yanni
"Life sucks." -- Butthead
"Yeah, yeah! And then you die!" -- Beavis
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:21:11 -0600
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: band names
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961114032111.006faac4@mail.inlink.com>
>
>heheh. My band's name used to be:
>Lockjaw, then
>Cranium, then
>Wasted Angel.
>What other people have wacky old names for their first bands?
lets see...
1) The Demented Glockenshpiels from Hell,
2) the goblins that hide in your basement and only come out at night and
sneak into your rifridgerator and steal all your food etc. etc. etc. (this
one went on for miles:),
3) Holy Shit,
and my persosnal favorite-
4) "tthtbtbtbbtbtbtbtbtht!!!"
yes, the sound you make when you stick out your tongue and spit. i
just thought it would be hilarious to hear "And tonight, opening for slayer,
its 'PTHTBTHTBHHTHTHTHTBTBT!!!'"
wakky enuff for yaz? :)
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:17:21 -0600 (CST)
From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytse Jam)
Subject: TSO - Christmas Eve / Sarajevo 12-24 Video
Message-ID: <199611140317.VAA29580@parka.winternet.com>
Jammers,
Just wanted to let you know (in case you haven't heard).
The TSO video for Christmas Eve / Sarajevo12-24 is almost completed. It
will be delivered to MTV on Monday (11/18). They should start playing it
around Christmas time, or sooner if there is some requests for it.
If you haven't yet entered the guitar give away contest, do so soon. The
last day for that will be 12/15/96. The URL is
http://www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso
Also check there for an extensive review of TSO , video stills, tips and tricks for finding TSO.
later,
Nathan Bradley
savaweb@winternet.com
http://www.winternet.com/~savaweb/
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 21:31:42 -0000
From: Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net>
To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Psych background?
Message-ID: <199611140531.VAA29347@pawn.ax.com>
The following appeared in Ytsejam #2017:
>One of the guys must have a psychology background.
Or just some very well-read person. I mean, Sting isn't a psychologist,
yet he said many, many people went on to read Jung after he wrote such
songs as "Synchronicity." I just think that there's some bright,
knowledge thirsty guys in DT. I don't know if you were around for the
dissection of "Pull Me Under" as referenced to "Hamlet," and Mike Bahr's
later attempt to compared "1,001 Arabian Nights" to "The Silent Man."
(Watch Mike get hit by explanations for this one! ;) ) There's just a
lot of depth to the music. :)
Jen
o.-.o For millions of years mankind lived just like animals.
((^)) Then something happened which unleashed the power of our
O) _ (O imagination...we learned to talk. (Steven Hawking)
O/ \O
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:53:20 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: band names
Message-ID: <199611140553.WAA74556@nevis.u.arizona.edu>
How 'bout:
Polaris
Moose Fart
Wonder Chicken
Yogi Fukin' Bear
Castrata
Catheter
~Vince
At 07:28 PM 11/13/96 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>>heheh. My band's name used to be:
>>Lockjaw, then
>>Cranium, then
>>Wasted Angel.
>>What other people have wacky old names for their first bands?
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:58:13 -0500 (EST)
From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Downloading real audio files?
Message-ID: <199611140558.AAA24020@umbc8.umbc.edu>
Does anyone know if there is a way to download the new kick-ass
RealAudio files of JP on the mesa/boogie web site? I'm able to
play them online but I'd like to save a copy to be able to play
later on when I'm off line. I tried the old "Left click ->
Save this link as..." trick but that didn't do it. It seems like
it just saved a shortcut to that file.
Does anyone know what these clips are from? HIs upcoming Sega game?
Anyone think we should start a petition and send it to BIrch HIll
or DT's management or Old Bridge's Fire Marshall and beg them not
to pack the place to 4 times its capacity? What a nightmare that
was last year...
Does anyone have any high quality Rush video boots from the new
tour? I'd love to get one. Especially if there are any of the
US Air arena show circulating already.
See ya!
-- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ -=- Miami Dolphins - All the way in '96!!!! -=- / / L. Jason Hartman "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend \ \ lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu And I'll never be open again / / And I'll have no more dreams to defend \ \ Univ. Of Maryland, And I'll never be open again " / / Baltimore County - Kevin Moore : Dream Theater \ \ / / "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:56:34 -0600 (CST) From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytse Jam) Subject: Sava Fanzine -- The Unholy Message-ID: <199611140656.AAA28385@tundra.winternet.com>
Jammers,
Clay Marshall, a long time writer and contributor to the Savatage web pages, is starting a new Savatage fanzine, to be called The Unholy.
The premiere issue will include :
Page 1: Big Cover Picture Page 2: A Personal Story Page 3: Dr. Killdrums pt. 1 Page 4: Dr. Killdrums pt. 2 Page 5: Spotlight on Jeff Plate Page 6: and 7: Fan Memories Page 8: and 9: Album News, including an exclusive on Greatist Hits track "This is Where You Should Be". Page 10: Jon, Chris and the WWF Page 11: Legion Merchandise, a section called "Did you know?" Page 12: Side Project News and TSO Video Pictures.
Also in there are announcements about the fan club denim jacket giveaway, the Savatage song poll Clay has started, and of course, a plug for the greatest website known to man.
Clay is asking for fans to write him with stories (brief or extended) about how you got into the band, your first time hearing/seeing/meeting them, or whatever. Other possible writing topics: reactions to the TSO album, your favorite Sava album and why, or whatever else you want to.
He is doing a Savatage Song Poll, so send him your Top 10 Savatage songs (#1 being the best.)
Clay's Address is Pwankers@aol.com
Or
Check out the web page at
http://www.winternet.com/~savaweb/zine
thanks much, Nathan Bradley savaweb@winternet.com http://www.winternet.com/~savaweb/
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 09:12:35 +0100 From: MIKA NUMMINEN <te95mne@student.hgs.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: band names Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961114081235.1b778ce4@pop.student.hgs.se>
I remember two:
211&one
and the best one:
Monster of Muppets!!!
That one ruled!
Mika Numminen, aka Viking
MAIL: te95mne@student.hgs.se URL: http://www.hgs.se/~te95mne ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."
Nietzsche "Beyond good and evil" ------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:07:24 -0500 From: saveur <saveur@cais.cais.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: band names (NDTC) Message-ID: <3.0b34.32.19961114040707.006c8424@cais.cais.com>
~Vince sed: >How 'bout: > > Polaris
no, *i* was in Polaris... and Prophecy (i think it's mandatory that every hs have a band named Prophecy) and Heir Apparent (no, not the /real/ prog band) and 2 Lonely Guys currently: perception (someone plz tell me this is already taken).
4 weeks, 2 days til DT @ Birch Hell :)
j . c h r i s t i a n j j e n s @ g m u . e d u e n s h t t p : / / w w w . c a i s . n e t / j j e n s /
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