YTSEJAM Digest 2024
Today's Topics:
1) ra files & new material.
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
2) CIAW drum solo sample
by Rajkai Peter <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
3) I think I did it!
by nigelb@thehub.com.au (Nigel Bridgeman)
4) subscribe
by Bodnar Adam <ytsejam@eik.bme.hu>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2023
by "Eddie J Cooper" <eddie@abacus.co.uk>
6) band names
by David Alderman <alde0004@gold.tc.umn.edu>
7) stupid chain letters
by rjohnson@cole.sinclair.edu
8) errata
by rjohnson@cole.sinclair.edu
9) Enchant and stuff
by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
10) Jimbo Barton
by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
11) band names
by "Darren Overcash" <bassplyr@hotmail.com>
12) Re: wacky band names!!!!!
by zottpa@consumer.org
13) JP/YM Voices/Ytsejam
by Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu>
14) Old band names
by Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2016
by David Gamble <dgamble@frodi.cs.uop.edu>
16) Mike Mangini
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2018
by David Gamble <dgamble@frodi.cs.uop.edu>
18) Re: band names (NDTC)
by Fernando Ma <fernandm@U.Arizona.EDU>
19) Re: band names
by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
20) Re: wacky band names!!!!!
by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
21) Sanguine Surroundings
by David Gamble <dgamble@frodi.cs.uop.edu>
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 02:13:05 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ra files & new material.
Message-ID: <199611140913.CAA67546@mustique.u.arizona.edu>
Someone posted about Petrucci .ra files on the Mesa Boogie Homepage:
http://www.mesaboogie.com/US/Artists/dt/
So I had to go check it out.
On there, you can only access the Petrucci .ram files. .Ram files
are used by RealAudio players to find a .ra file somewhere on the net and
play it. You can download the .ram file, but it's only a director to the
.ra file. Do I still have everyone? :)
In other words, you can't download the .ra files, but I'm sure someone out
there somewhere has a copy (hint, hint...).
Anyway, I have had absolutely no success finding the real .ra files
because they are under a protected system of some kind. I tried to record
the playback from the RealAudio player I have to .wav format, but I found
out that the RA player uses the wave device to play, therefore I cannot
record these files directly to my PC. The only way that I can record these
.ra files is to tape (I have my PC hooked up to a stereo).
I'd like to know two things:
1) Does anyone have a copy of these .ra files? If so I'd appreciate having
a copy. Thank you.
2) Where did these sound files come from? On the page, it says that
Petrucci recorded and produced them himself, but I'm strongly inclined to
believe the other DT members were playing in these sound files. Is this
stuff some new DT material? If so I'm a very happy camper because it's a
bit heavier than normal DT stuff, but still just as progressive. IMHO it
sounds like one of Pantera's first 2 albums, but played w/ style and it's
much more intricate.
I'd appreciate any and all feedback on this. Thank you all very much.
Later,
Peace be with you and God bless.
~Vince
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:15:49 +0100 (MET)
From: Rajkai Peter <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: CIAW drum solo sample
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.961114101455.10843A-100000@speed.eik.bme.hu>
Hey Hi!
> From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
> Chances are, you won't get people who you've called lamers to spend their
> free time creating samples just to e-mail them to you. I know I won't.
Yeah, but I either wouldn't get people to spend their free time writing
stupid things (eg. that the sample is from BTN... it's probably from
a commercial sample disk so PE and Derek just sampled from that).
And sorry, that PE sux. Ok, IMHO. ;)
> From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
> On the Pe/Anthrax version (which i think is on the public enemy
> album) has it, as far as i know.
> you explain there is a maxi cd or something?? Ok, my friend has the
> PE/Anthrax version, and there it is, but I can't sample from there
> since there is a drum track behind... If you know where can I get
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Get it?
> "Attack of the Killer B's." The PE-only version is on a PE album whose
> title escapes me at the moment (but I have it at home and can look later,
Something with the word "nations" and a lot of other words... :)
I can't recall but anyway I don't give a shit.
Bungle
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:43:44 +1000
From: nigelb@thehub.com.au (Nigel Bridgeman)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I think I did it!
Message-ID: <199611140943.TAA26083@smople.thehub.com.au>
Hiyis
I made a tape of DT songs for my brother, in an effort to convert him to
being a fan, and I think it actually *worked*!
He always criticised me for liking proggy music like DT and Rush (although
he recently admitted to liking Rush, and after I made a tape for him he said
they were cool) so I decided I would try to save his soul (and my own) by
making him see the light and become a DT fan.
If anyone's interested, here's the track listing I used (a 2 hour tape):
Side1
Metropolis
Surrounded
Wait for Sleep
Learning to Live
Space Dye Vest
Lifting Shadows off a Dream
Scarred
The Ytse Jam
Side2
A Change of Seasons
Afterlife
Ones Who Help to Set the Sun
Take the Time
Only a Matter of Time
Pull Me Under
He admitted to liking DT (he said, "They're ok" when I asked him if he liked
them, then started raving about Rush) which is a better response than I
thought I could get from him.
Just thought I'd share that with y'all.
Cya!
Nigel
Spiff on IRC
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:07:30 +0100 (MET)
From: Bodnar Adam <ytsejam@eik.bme.hu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: subscribe
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961114110650.16801A-100000@goliat.eik.bme.hu>
HI.
How can I subscribe your mag?????
/------------------------------------------------------------------------\
| "Find all you need in your mind...Take the time!" |
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| ytsejam@goliat.eik.bme.hu Bodnar Adam /
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:10:33 +0000
From: "Eddie J Cooper" <eddie@abacus.co.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2023
Message-ID: <9611141108.AA23136@sphinx>
On 14 Nov 96 at 1:13, ytsejam@ax.com wrote about YTSEJAM digest 2023:
> heheh. My band's name used to be:
> Lockjaw, then
> Cranium, then
> Wasted Angel.
> What other people have wacky old names for their first bands?
Strange but true: about 10 years back, my first band was called
"Anne Heap Of Frogs", and my current band's lead guitarist's first
band was called "The Mouldy Cheese Plants"... No shit... Suppose it
must be English eccentricity... either that or someone spiked my
Marlboros back then...
Laterz
Eddie
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Disclaimer: Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer,
my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental. Any resemblance
between the above and my own views is non-deterministic. The question of the
existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold them is left as an exercise
for the reader. The question of the existence of the reader is left as an
exercise for the second god coefficient.
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 06:04:33 -0600
From: David Alderman <alde0004@gold.tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: band names
Message-ID: <328B0AD1.5859@gold.tc.umn.edu>
Lets see...
The lightswitches
Horny Little Devils
And the best one of all... Peace Tree of Youth.
David
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:43:02 -0500
From: rjohnson@cole.sinclair.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: stupid chain letters
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.961114084150.4505G-100000@cole.sinclair.edu>
I am very sorry for the chain letter. Talk to Michelle Phillips about it.
Her email:mp679296@oak.cats.uohio.edu
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:46:42 -0500
From: rjohnson@cole.sinclair.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: errata
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.961114084548.4505I-100000@cole.sinclair.edu>
chain letters email to:mp679296@oak.cats.ohiou.edu
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:51:18 +0100 (MEZ)
From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list)
Subject: Enchant and stuff
Message-ID: <9611141351.AA79772@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Hi!
I've been in touch with one of the owners of the German label InsideOutMusic
(he's also manager of Enchant) for some time now, so maybe I can help you if
you have questions concerning their bands.
Enchant: Their new album, "Wounded", is out here in Germany on InsideOut for
some weeks now. Magna Carta will NOT release this album in the US - they
wanted to, but the band was not too happy about it ;-). I guess you need some
patience till they find an American label. Anyway, it's a very calm album,
just the opener "Below Zero" and the Dream Theater tribute "Missing" (sounds a
bit like "6:00", a weird drum pattern followed by distorted keys ;-), anyway,
great song) show their heavier side. Their third album will be more in the
vein of these two songs, I guess.
Threshold: Their first singer is back in the band. The new line-up already
recorded a new album, which is said to be a lot heavier than the previous
stuff. Their second vocalist has also made a demo (Or even an album? Don't
know.), also very heavy. I haven't heard anything yet, so that's all I know.
There are a lot of other progressive bands on InsideOut here in Europe (eg
Arena, Symphony X, Seventhsign) if there's a question, let me know.
Steffen
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German Dream Theater Fanzine
TheMirror@westend.com
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:52:18 +0100 (MEZ)
From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list)
Subject: Jimbo Barton
Message-ID: <9611141352.AA47682@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Just a thought...
If James Barton isn't involved in the production of the new Queensryche
album this time, doesn't he have some spare time now? (hint, hint)
Steffen
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http://www.westend.com/TheMirror
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Date: 14 Nov 1996 14:49:56 -0000
From: "Darren Overcash" <bassplyr@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: band names
Message-ID: <19961114144956.16652.qmail@hotmail.com>
How about:
Bloodgate
Fury
Arcane
We thought it would be cool to name the band "Pile of Chopped Potatoes." We
would abbreviete it "PCP." Then, people would ask us why we named our band
after an illegal drug and we would tell them the real meaning. Pretty cheasy
huh!
Of course, there's always the classic name of "Free Beer" or "No Cover, Free
Draft." Other classics include "I Forgot" or "I Don't Know" in case you were
announced on the radio.
Those were the good old days weren't they.
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 09:53:06 EDT
From: zottpa@consumer.org
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: wacky band names!!!!!
Message-ID: <9610148479.AA847994133@gatemaster.consumer.org>
In YTSEJAM # 2023, IbnzRG570 wrote,
>heheh. My band's name used to be:
>Lockjaw, then
>Cranium, then
>Wasted Angel.
>What other people have wacky old names for their first bands?
I remember a local band called wasted angel! Are you from the Orange
County, NY area? It's weird sometimes to think that the Internet can
put you in touch with people on the other side of the world, then you
find that some of them are also in your "backyard". Just wonderin, by
the way, my band's names were. . .
Scrotal Assault, then
Lost Cause
Then I grew up a little, and now I'm in NEGATIVE REINFORCEMENT!
I won't go into a whole promo thing here, cause I'm not sure if you're
allowed to do that on here. If anyone is interested though, we're a
thrash/speedmetal/hardcore band, with an intelligent twist, from NY.
We play mostly in NYC! Anyone want to know more, or have I already
stepped over the line?
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:17:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu>
To: ytsejam <Ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: JP/YM Voices/Ytsejam
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91a.961114100405.19217B@christa.unh.edu>
Someonw wrote about Yngwie Malmstein(???) possibly being the best guitar
player in the world. I will be the first to admit that YM is incredibly
gifted, but in no way is he the best. I don't think he know how to play
mellow. He shreds great, but he does it ALL the time. Even on a slow
tune, the solo is like constant 32nd or higher notes. This is where John
Petrucci blows YM out of the water. (IMO only) JP can shred with the
best of them, but he also knows when to play slower and more melodic. (ie,
Eve, part of Scarred, etc.) I guess I just like Petrucci's more flowing
style. The deal with Voices and Ytsejam is sort of simple. People who
are actively involved with voices want just DT info. Which they will
get. I subscribed to Voices, but I haven't recieved any info which
wasn't put up on the jam. The reason there is little or no DTC in the
jam is because they are not really doing too much right now, even though
they are doing 5 shows in December. I enjoy the jam more than voices
because I get valuable info about other related bands (Hard
Rock/Prog/Metal) AND Dream Theater. This is just my opinion.
See ya!
Tony
P.S. Anyone else planning to go to the Providence show?
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:39:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu>
To: ytsejam <Ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Old band names
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91a.961114103421.19217D@christa.unh.edu>
I got a few cool ones!
-Alter Ego
-Stool Pigeon
-The Max Rebo Band (just kidding rick:)
One time I had a band with a few different people and we played a couple
of shows without a name!
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:26:56 -0800 (PST)
From: David Gamble <dgamble@frodi.cs.uop.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2016
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.961114082436.1236A-100000@uop.cs.uop.edu>
YES!!!
A disclaimer--my opinions on Mr. Eric Johnson are not as low as I
made them out to be. Some of you have jumped to defend him. One of you
hopes not to start a "war". There'll be no quarrel here good man...Eric
Johnson is the CAT'S ASS!!! I was just hoping that one of these days
someone would reply to something I had posted. I'm new, but I don't have
much patience. I was just looking to rile somebody up---and it worked.
Later - Dave Gamble
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:28:01 -0500
From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Mike Mangini
Message-ID: <328B4891.5A25@earthlink.net>
> Yesterday I was watching a video of Extreme live, this was a video of
> their last tour and Mike Mangini was with them (people who saw any G3
> show knows Mike is great) and before Play With Me, Mike plays a solo,
> I was with a friend who is drummer, and he was really amazed of the way
> Mike played the drums, he said that he is very fast, that he can play
> like left and right handed and that he never saw anybody play like him
> (he is a great DT fan) he said that the only person who can play like
> that is Castronovo, can anyone say whats better on Mangini and whats
> better in Portnoy?
> that would be interesting..
I totally agree..he was also in ANNIHILATOR before they became the JEFF
WATERS project.
His drum solo blew me away...no offense..but portnoy's solos bore me..
all IMHO anyone who knows what Mangini's solos and Dean Castronova's
solos sound like can vouch for me on this one.."Forbidden City"
anyone???
I saw EXTEME when they hit Long Island at the Malibu (basically went
to check out Mike and Nuno's playing at they were both great..I can't
emphasize mike mangini enough though..Check out the bootleg of when they
played Donnington a few years ago with Mike..solo is INSANE!!!!
It would be awesome...if he would play the JASON BECKER benefit...3
days left!!!!! Since I'm driving from NY to CHicago for this..can
anyone in between tell me just how much snow was dumped in norther
Ohio..its only November damnit!?!?
Anyhow, back to my thesis..but yeah..Mike Mangini rules!
cheers,
Carlo (aka Fates, aka YtseSatan)
--
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"When you know that your time is close at hand |__ __|
maybe then you'll begin to understand | |
Life down here is just a strange illusion." | |
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--IRON MAIDEN (Hallowed Be Thy Name)
"Neo-classical, progressive, melodic metal"
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:44:15 -0800 (PST)
From: David Gamble <dgamble@frodi.cs.uop.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2018
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.961114083927.1236B-100000@uop.cs.uop.edu>
Lookie people-
Now I feel bad for starting this little "spat" of people who think Vai
kicks Satches ass, while Johnson kicks Vai's ass and Satch rules, or
something!!! I was not looking to start anything (though it's kinda
fun), but I'm sure nobody's opinion of there favorite performers (mine
being DT AND VAI) by posting mudslinging rhetoric about them. Must we
continue to compare apples to oranges to passionfruit? All three kick
ass or they wouldn't be on stage together (just like most everybody
gracing the stage of an MTV event have in common that they all suck!)
I seriously don't want to make any enemies being a relatively new jammer.
Thanx.
Dave Gamble (who has committed the ultimate crime of posting the third
straight message with NO DTC---slap on the CUFFS, DANO!)
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 09:55:51 -0700 (MST)
From: Fernando Ma <fernandm@U.Arizona.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: band names (NDTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.961114095538.55034A-100000@tortola.u.arizona.edu>
ours was Lunacy.
Fernando Ma
Materials science & engineering
University of Arizona
http://bigdog.engr.arizona.edu/~ma
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:00:28 -0700 (MST)
From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: band names
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961114095729.24118C-100000@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
There's a band in the San Francisco area calles FUCK. The Chronicle did a
story about them a few weeks ago. (My mom sent the article to me.) I was
in a band in high school called "Splittin' Image" which was a horrible
cheese band, then in college I was in "Nasal Jam" and "Sour Mash", now I'm
in "Culture of Despair" and another project I'm working on, I'm trying to
push the idea of "Free Beer," "Wun Dollah" or "Nocturnal Emissions"
-Adam
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:08:21 -0700 (MST)
From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: wacky band names!!!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961114100705.24118D-100000@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
sorry, wrong button.... DREAM THEATER!!!! There, DTC Oh, BTW, I got my
tickets for Mulcahy's and Birch Hill in the mail, and both tix say "DREAM
THEATRE".....how annoying.
-Adam
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 09:52:31 -0800 (PST)
From: David Gamble <dgamble@frodi.cs.uop.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Sanguine Surroundings
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.961114094230.2255A-100000@uop.cs.uop.edu>
To all Ytse-jammers.
A demo of "Sanguine Surroundings - Stalemate" is set to be printed in
limited edition early in the new year. This is a stripped down version
of progressive metal music that uniquely combines Dream Theater and Rush
prog with the fire of instrumentalists Vai and Satriani. It is in no way
comparable to those artists in texture and sound quality however, due to
the low $800 budget the two 19 year old musicians had to work with.
So far, the set list of the demo is as follows:
SANGUINE SURROUNDINGS : Stalemate
1. PAWN (7:32)
2. KNIGHT (8:10)
3. QUEEN (5:36)
4. KING (11:11)
Guitar and Bass: Dave Gamble (A fellow ytsejammer!)
Drums and Perc.: Ramz
The idea is to get a small group of people to dig the music, and
hopefully a following will grow... These youngins' have plenty of time
and patience.
As of now, the demos sell for $5 plus $2 S/H
The band looks only to break even and pay some people back for their
contributions.
If you would like to inquire about the band, the demo, etc, send private
e-mail to
dgamble@uop.edu and you will be answered promptly
Thank you jammers----
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