YTSEJAM digest 2044

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Date: Thu Nov 21 1996 - 13:39:14 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: rock opera
     by 0lli-Pekka Komonen <op777@freenet.hut.fi>
      2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2043
     by tallufo@juno.com (Tall UFO Productions)
      3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2042
     by tallufo@juno.com (Tall UFO Productions)
      4) Nouveaux. (Very low DTC)-sorry, I'll learn soon. ;)
     by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
      5) The Storm
     by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
      6) Re: My top 5 albums for the year
     by Rajkai Peter <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
      7) Skadz, Hammett, Balls
     by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
      8) Crimson Glory
     by Jan van Huizen <aurora@mail.wirehub.nl>
      9)
     by psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
     10) Rare CD outlets 'n' stuff
     by Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu>
     11) Myung nationality, Di Giorgio
     by akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch
     12) all this nonsense
     by greg massi <gmassi00@sequent1.providence.edu>
     13) Seven stringed monsters!!!
     by The Silent Screamer <tritt@eden.rutgers.edu>
     14) Angra and Vanden Plas in Paris and Lyon (some DT- & Ytsejam-content!)
     by erasm58@cicrp.jussieu.fr (Ties GOEBEL)

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    Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:20:37 +0200 (EET)
    From: 0lli-Pekka Komonen <op777@freenet.hut.fi>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: rock opera
    Message-ID: <199611210820.KAA18627@freenet.hut.fi>

      Hi!

     This is not actually my first post, I posted domething here like 300 jams
    ago, oh well...
     However when DT were in Finland, a Finnish rock magazine called RUMBA
    interviewed them, and one of the questions was "When will DT release
    "Concerto for group and orchestra", and Portnoy's answer was something like:
    "A theme album, I don't know, but I love theme albums, Jethro Tull's Thick
    as a Brick is one of my favourites"
    I am not exactly sure, 'cuz I don't have the mag here right now, but I'll
    check it out...
    The same mag also revieved the reamstered ELP albums, and on scale * to *****
    they got *. This resulted as my immediate reply to magazine, i called them
    prog haters & stuff, but they actually said some good things of other prog
    bands like Genesis and Yes, so I had to write to magazine once again, an
    apoligize my rude letter, my second letter ended with something like "but if
    those better-than-perfect bunch of musicians called Dream Theater will ever
    come to Finland, you will se me drooling in extasy in front of stage."
    And they replyed with: "Dream Theater who use their song writting & playing
    ability extremely right were in finland, and were interviewed in RUMBA blah
    blah blah... (I guess this was in RUMBA 16/96, if any of the Finnish jammers
    has this, could you be so nice and send me a transcription of it, 'cuz I
    didn't buy a copy bakc then, thank you)

    -OP

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    Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 03:33:50 EST
    From: tallufo@juno.com (Tall UFO Productions)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2043
    Message-ID: <19961121.003516.6798.2.tallufo@juno.com>

    begin quote here:
    > 1. Mr. Bungle- Mr. Bungle

            defianatly one of the weirdest albums of all time.
    end quote here.

    You think that album's weird...you should hear their latest release,
    "Disco Volante." It's by leaps and bounds more bizzare and whacked that
    their s/t album. If you would be interested in hearing a band that can
    go from death metal to acid jazz without blinking, that's the album to
    check out.

    -Nate

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    Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 03:33:50 EST
    From: tallufo@juno.com (Tall UFO Productions)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2042
    Message-ID: <19961121.003516.6798.1.tallufo@juno.com>

    {begin quote here:}
    >>>>> Sorry if I come off sounding like a dick here, but WHY THE HELL IS
    DREAM THEATER ONLY #5????? Second, why are they even on this list?
    Didn't
    ACOS come out late last year? Anyway, I would definitely put them in
    either
    #1 or #2 here, but you're right, Steve Vai's new album kicks ass, big
    time.<<<<<<<
    {end quote here}

    Oh...I forgot to mention that they're not in order. I'm not saying I
    like any one of them better than the other...it's just that I've been
    listening to the other four much more recently than ACOS, and they came
    to mind first. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

    -Nate

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    Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:46:23 -0700
    From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Nouveaux. (Very low DTC)-sorry, I'll learn soon. ;)
    Message-ID: <199611210846.BAA75364@kitts.u.arizona.edu>

    Hello again,
            I just want to know if anyone else out there has heard of a band
    named "Nouveaux". They're first album (Beginnings) was very metal, but
    they've gone acoustic for the new CD. I must say that they royally kick ass!
            I'm guessing that most of you haven't heard of them since they're
    not on a major label, but you've gotta check these guys out, they're very cool.
            They are a Christian band, but don't let that turn you off if you
    don't believe. I have a friend who's a die hard atheist (if there is such a
    thing!) and when he heard the CD "Beginnings", the song "All That Glitters"
    struck him like only one other song had before ("Pull Me Under"- by our
    favorite band).
            You can find the CD on the indie label BENSON. You can get their CD
    at most Christian shops (once again, don't be turned off if you're not a
    Christian, you'd just be going to get a CD), or by writing to BENSON at:

    Benson Music Group, Inc.
    365 Great Circle Road
    Nashville, TN 37228

            Trust me, you'll like these guys.

    Later,

            
            Peace be with you and God bless.

            ~Vince

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    Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 01:08:44 -0800 (PST)
    From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
    To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: The Storm
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.961121005903.130227A-100000@homer24.u.washington.edu>

    After the last call for all busses leaving for Victoria (5:45 p.m.),
    dozens of seats had opened up in the front sections. What could Rahul and
    I do but move up to the front row?

    There was a brief awards ceremony, and immediately afterwards the four
    main performers proceeded to jam. (Black Bottle was not in attendance for
    the closing fireworks) Dennis Chambers got it started with a funky beat
    that was relatively uptempo (pace of "Innocence Faded"). After all four
    drummers had locked into the beat, heads started frantically turning
    regarding who was going to take the first solo. They went back and forth,
    from Russ McKinnon who whapped all the bells and cymbals his kit could
    muster to Gregg Bissonette who provided a low end with his kickdrum and
    floor tom combos to Dennis Chambers who became a sudden wrench in the
    gears.

    The undefinable, inhuman time signature which Dennis chose to imagine he
    was soloing along to was like most of what Dennis Chambers did - it was
    unbelievable, it only made sense to Dennis Chambers, and it instantly
    caused everyone else to go off-beat. The first snare hit into his solo
    strangely echoed around the stage as each drummer around him travelled
    further and further away from the beat. Portnoy was staring at Chambers
    and really looked like he was concentrating, but after several seconds of
    shaking his head, he stood up and waved Chambers off as if to say, "Yeah,
    whatever, come back to Earth ya freak."

    After that it was Portnoy's turn to solo. He got jipped for making a
    blazing entrance because after hitting one cymbal, a large chunk of his
    right stick kind of FLEW OFF and landed somewhere behind his kit. He
    quickly grabbed another one and did some Latin-sounding tom soloing that
    made me think what he really needed to spice up his kit were some steel
    drums. ;)

    Midway through McKinnon's next solo, Portnoy got up and, in the tradition
    of the court jester that he is, switched kits with Bissonette. Chambers
    noticed this and climbed down from the platform to switch with McKinnon.
    McKinnon climbed up onto the raised platform and paused, standing behind
    Chambers' kit, holding his sticks high in the air in a huge X. The crowd
    roared. Bissonette could be seen apprehensively experimenting with
    Portnoy's wall of rototoms, which he soon got into and began rattling
    around on when it came time for his next solo.

    Chambers went into another mind-blowing display of chaos theory, which
    caused all surrounding attempts at maintaining the beat to go to absolute
    hell. This time the Chambers Centrifuge caused Portnoy to get up and throw
    his sticks down onto the stage in tongue-in-cheek frustration. Everyone
    was laughing it up. Even McKinnon had to play softly and stare at Chambers
    to check his timing. With Portnoy dancing around in a state of total
    confusion over Chambers' being, McKinnon reducing his playing volume to
    about 2, and Chambers ending his solo, the beat began floating away and
    the jam began falling apart. But somewhere high above, the Ethereal Order
    Of The Drum refused to let it all end. The paddles were rubbed together,
    the doctor shouted "clear!" and ZAP!! Out from behind the curtain sprang
    Rejuvination Incarnate in the form of Dom Famularo!!

    Dressed in one of Black Bottle's outfits, kilt and all, he sat down behind
    Portnoy's kit, which Gregg gladly vacated, and jammed along. He played a
    notch faster than everyone else, which added a nice layer of randomness to
    the jam. With all focus on him, he did a really fast kick-roll followed by
    a bizarre cascade of cymbal-crashes to no particular tempo. He looked
    alive though, leaping up and down with each cymbal crash, shouting on each
    one. The crowd roared. He repeated the solo. The crowd roared again.

    What else was there for Portnoy to do now that he was standing up but take
    over McKinnon's kit, sending Chambers over to Bissonette's. The kit-
    juggling was insane.

    Throughout the entire jam I marveled at how loudly and aggressively each
    drummer continued playing despite the numerous times all four of them
    started sliding away from the tempo. Portnoy tried calming things down by
    playing only his hi-hat at times, but Bissonette was the genius who
    remembered the cowbell and its ability to be heard above all other pieces
    on a drumkit. He used it to get things back in line. I wasn't too
    impressed with Famularo, but it was clear from his general technique and
    the way he played along with everyone that he had more skill than what he
    was displaying.

    Overall Bissonette was the steadiest performer, Portnoy was the most
    humorous (and the LOUDEST), McKinnon was the liveliest with his bells and
    cymbals and Latin craziness, and Chambers was the most alien. And of
    course Rahul and I were there at the Hard Rock Cafe at 7pm, just in time
    for the 8:30pm Drum Invitational Wrap-Up Party. We ran into some really
    cool people while we were there, and one really really really cool
    person...

    Yeah, it's about time I recommended a band to the 'jam...

    Bafu Vai

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    Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:11:21 +0100 (MET)
    From: Rajkai Peter <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: My top 5 albums for the year
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.961121101057.28685A-100000@speed.eik.bme.hu>

    >> 1. Mr. Bungle- Mr. Bungle
    > defianatly one of the weirdest albums of all time.
     
    I think you should hear Disco Volante or Patton's "Adult themes for voices".
     
    Bungle

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    Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 02:34:43 -0800 (PST)
    From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
    To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Skadz, Hammett, Balls
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.961121022854.138097B-100000@homer24.u.washington.edu>

    > From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
    > Subject: REAL IMPORTANT INFORMATION
    >
    > DREAMT.ORG ACCOUNTS
    > -------------------
    >
    > These will be going down tonight somewhere around midnight.
    >
    >
    > ME / MY HOME MACHINE
    > --------------------
    >
    > Basically, as of tonight until I get access from somewhere, my home
    > machine will also be down.

    Notice how Ryan conveniently chose to leave out when HE will be going
    down...

    ----
    > From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
    > Subject: Living in Mbabane
    >
    > Here I am, a bassist by trade, arguing about the relative merits of
    > guitar players.  As if any of 'em could hold a candle to Jeff
    > Berlin...heh.... 
    

    Jeff Who? Did he do that song "Take My Breath Away?"

    > Anyhow, Hammett's playing is really pretty manic -- what he's always > been good at is running in and out of melodic and energetic ideas. I > think his "non-melodicism" is precisely what has defined a great deal of > the playing that has since followed. I wouldn't say it's non-melodic, > as such, but specifically abrasive playing. Without that edge, thrash > soloing wouldn't be that far from traditional Euro Metal.

    Wow. For a self-proclaimed bassist-by-trade, you sure did hit the nail right on the head. Excellent synopsis.

    > I have a little bit of trouble saying Roth is VERY technical. He's > certainly technical, but so is Michael Schenker. Roth's style is a > little more exotic, but he's playing throughout his career was based on > arpeggiation.

    Roth did arpeggios? I thought the reason the rest of the band kicked him out of Van Halen in the first place was because he couldn't sing a simple major scale.

    > Two or three? I dunno if you're just talking simple minor inversions > or if you're talking about using extensions or what. Two or three > doesn't tell me much, aside from the fact that I don't think I'd agree > with any possible interpretation.

    I meant Satriani can do two or three *tapping* licks that I can't.

    > Okay, we're gonna start evaluating Hammett in Exodus with Friedman in > Hawaii or something? "Kill 'Em All" certainly predates Mike Varney > finding Friedman, so I don't know where you're headed with that.

    Ooooh, the bassist-by-trade can whip out the name Mike Varney when arguing about Friedman. Color me impressed... ;)

    > Clapton and Beck are different voices...I wouldn't have any trouble > separating the two at all -- but they ARE similar in several ways.

    You mean Clapton can wail on two turntables and a microphone?

    ---- > From: Jeff Hill <jwhill1@students.uiuc.edu> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2039 > > Bloody balls next semester will kick balls.

    You're fuckin'balls right it will.

    > Hell positive.

    Petrucci sucks.

    ---- > From: tbaddley@airmail.net (Tom Baddley) > Subject: Vai still on the 7-String > > Vai switched to his white 6-string Gem for Fire Garden. The only other > guitar that he used was a white Strat on warm regards.

    Didn't he also use a strat on "Brother?"

    Anyway, I'm listening to Janet Jackson's "and I just know we'll have a good time" (don't know the title) right now through headphones, and am stunned at the complexity of the YEAHs in this song. She must have done five or six vocal tracks for these chords, I mean they're REALLY full...

    Bafu Vai

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    Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:24:42 +0100 From: Jan van Huizen <aurora@mail.wirehub.nl> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Crimson Glory Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19961121112442.0069c414@mail.wirehub.nl>

    Hi,

    I've got some great news for all you Crimson Glory fans out there : Apperently they're planning a reunion (so all the original Crimson Glory members : Midnight, Jeff Lords, Dana Burnell, Jon Drenning and Ben Jackson). Hopefully they'll get rid of those silly 80ish silver masks.

    I also got a tracklisting for the new Threshold album (will be called Extinct Instinct) : Exposed, Somatography, Eat the Unicorn, Forever, Virtual Isolation, The Whispering, Lake of Despond, Clear, Life Flow and Part of the Chaos. I don't know when the album will be released. Probably January I think.

    That's about all. A bit DT content : who knows the e-mail adress of DT's management ? I just want to find out who's going to produce DT new album.

    See ya,

    Aurora

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    Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:03:56 -0500 From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <199611211355.IAA03267@uhura.ici.net>

    >Here's my discovery list:

    OKay, this is to everyone that has already posted their lists, and those that plan to:

    Top 5 (3, 10, whatever) lists ARE NOT ALLOWED ON THE YTSEJAM LIST!!

    It is written in the post that Skadz sends to the list every week that if anyone wants to compile a list like this, it is to be done through PRIVATE E-MAIL ONLY. I'm quite sure Skadz has enough to deal with right now without seeing the 'jam degenerate into a bunch of Top 5 lists.

    -----

    __<psull@ici.net>__http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html

    This space for rent...No pithy quotes need apply _________________________________________________________________

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    Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:03:00 -0500 (EST) From: Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu> To: ytsejam <Ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Rare CD outlets 'n' stuff Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91a.961121095512.12600A-100000@christa.unh.edu>

    I just noticed some people talking about how some cd places ripped them off. Well, I never went to CD Europe, but I did go to CD Wherehouse (seriously, thats how its spelled). Anyways, I ordered some import boots of DT. Needless to say, I never recieved anything. I sent them like between $50-$80 (I can't remember exactly) and I paid through a US Postal Money Order. Well, months past and I the Money Orders investigated and as I thought, they were cashed. I wrote letters to them and the Better Business Bureau, but didn't get any response. A month or two I got a savings bond from the government. But CD Wherehouse never sent me my stuff. So, if any of you on this jam are thinking of buying stuff from them, I'd go elsewhere. See ya! Tony

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    Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:46:10 +0100 From: akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Myung nationality, Di Giorgio Message-ID: <v03007800aeba285da1de@[128.178.99.94]>

    >What nationality(ies) is John Myung? I thought he as Japanese....then I saw >something written here about him knowing very little Korean... ??? > >Kamsahamnida... (that's Korean for thank you). > >Suz

    uhh...isn't it normal that if KM's Jap, he knows only very little Korean?? In fact, he's American. BTW, WTF? he's a fellow bassist and that rules.

    >A friend of mine wanted to me to ask what Steve DiMadgio is up to. He >played bass in Sadus once and then in Death on their 1993 album (the >name of which escapes me). Private email please, if anybody does have >the information.

    sorry lost you so no priv mail. First: DI GIORGIO, please. Then I heard he's into jazz. All I know.

    Later 'vryone,

    ............................................. D A V E K I N G b a s s & v o x M T 2 0 p r o g m e t a l

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    Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:35:45 -0500 From: greg massi <gmassi00@sequent1.providence.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: all this nonsense Message-ID: <96Nov21.114510est.20833@gateway.providence.edu>

    I'm really starting to get a little annoyed because when I signed on to this list I was hoping to find some worthwhile information on a band that I love, namely Dream Theater. For the most part that is true and besides that I also get info on similar bands and there is a really cool fanbase here that spreads great information, there are some bands and albums I've heard of on here that I would have never thought about before but now I might just check out. However the main reason I am writing is because I'm fed up with the recent tlk about " Hammet vs. Friedman",etc, and I'm going to have to agree with Vince that its really becoming quite asanine. Kirk Hammet was one of those guitarists that was a primary influence on my soloing. Maybe on Load some of the solos aren't really great but this is the man who WROTE and recorded the amazing solos on " Ride the Lightning" which continue to leave me breathless to this day. To say he is an un-original schmuck is completely stupid and insane. I also love Friedman, Satriani, definitely Petrucci, and a bunch of other guys, who have a great ability to come up with these solos that always inspire me to new levels of creativity. Hammet is certainly one of them. Just because latley he hasn't been putting out these stupendous solos doesn't change what he did in the past, or what he might be capable of doing in the future. And in my opinion, yes I will agree that he did incorporate the soloing ideas of Mustaine into the " Kill'em All " solos but have you ever listened to Mustaine's versions of those solos on the " No life Till Leather" demos. If you have then you might find that they blow chunks. He bends out of tune, hits completely wrong notes, ends on wrong notes, just shreds for no good reason, and basically makes them suck big time. Granted he has gotten better now because I listen to his solos now and love them to death, but when Kirk came in he added some new ideas to the already present ones and fixed all the mistakes and made them incredibly better overall. That right there just shows to me the kind of creativity he has. This is all my opinion and I'm not saying everyone has to agree with me, all I'm saying is give some respect. I'm sure the Dream Theater guys don't want to be reading the jam and reading these long overdrawn messages about the same thing, in fact I just skip over them because they are all predictable and boring, and I move on to the more, in my opinion, relevant topics. So I want to apologize for this long message because I feel very strongly about this issue, and it me a little longer than expected to get these feelings out. So having said that, goodbye and see you at the Providence Show on the 12th. Ibanez guitars rock!!

    greg

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    Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 12:05:00 EST From: The Silent Screamer <tritt@eden.rutgers.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Seven stringed monsters!!! Message-ID: <CMM-RU.1.5.848595900.tritt@er7.rutgers.edu>

    Hey guys!!! First and foremost, Steve Vai used ONLY 6 string guitars on his most recent release, "Fire Garden." While it is true that certain songs like "Blowfish" sound like seven stringers, they are detuned six string guitars. Vai mentions in Guitar Magazine (I think its the November issue, the one with him on the cover) everything about his studio experience for Fire Garden. Second, JP probably will continue using his seven string guitars on DT's next album (so I was told from an inside source). For the guitarists out there who have not bought a seven string guitar and admire JP's sound and gear, Ibanez will release a JP seven string signature guitar series in the near future (I think this means in the next 3 years or so). Ibanez's Bill Cummiskey was at the NYC JP clinic over the summer and had a chance to ask John about it. So I am definitely not circulating some kind of a rumor. That's all Folks!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ screamer@dreamt.org "Like a scream but sort of silent" tritt@eden.rutgers.edu - John Petrucci Dori Tritt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:20:39 +0100 (NFT) From: erasm58@cicrp.jussieu.fr (Ties GOEBEL) To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: erasm58@cicrp.jussieu.fr (Ties) Subject: Angra and Vanden Plas in Paris and Lyon (some DT- & Ytsejam-content!) Message-ID: <9611211820.AA56604@ibm1.cicrp.jussieu.fr>

    Hi! During the last weekend I was at three really great concerts of two really great bands, so I'm sending this review to the 'jam as well as to the Summer Metal Meeting II mailing list (tm) and to some other people that might be interested. :) Special thanks to Stephane! 14.11.96, Paris, Arapaho, Vanden Plas (acoustic concert): Originally this was supposed to be a day-off of the French Angra / Vanden Plas tour, but VP/their management decided to do a special free acoustic gig at a small club (well... maybe not that small: at least 400 people were there!). I was there very early so I got a place in the first row and had an excellent view during this excellent concert. When Olivier Garnier (of CNR music, the French record company of Angra, Vanden Plas, Superior, Eldritch...) entered the stage to announce the band, the crowd started shouting "Olivier!Olivier!", knowing what a great job he is doing promoting "his" bands in France (I guess Bernd can confirm this!) ! This was the second time I saw Vanden Plas live, so I knew what to expect, and again, it was a great show! Among their own songs, they played a lot of cover versions, the second song they played was "Wait for Sleep"!! After the ending chords I prepared myself for "Learning To Live", but well... who would honestly expect an acoustic version of LTL... Some special guests joined them for a couple of songs: Kiko Loureiro, one of Angra's guitarists, played bass on Marillion's "Kayleigh", Andre Matos, Angra's singer and keyboarder, played harmonica (at least that's what VP's singer Andy Kuntz called it, I hadn't seen this instrument before...) on a Sting cover, other guests were a German cello player (!!) and Patrick Forgothislastname (guitar player for Jean-Michel Jarre) who seemed to be kind of a local hero for the audience. After a song from the musical "Jesus Christ Superstar" which I didn't know but which sounded excellent, all guests plus Angra's drummer Ricardo Confessori joined the stage (which was quite a chaos but fun!) for the last song, a Saigon Kick cover. All in all, it was an awesome show, kind of VP's Ronnie Scott's... ;) After the show I saw a guy with a Ytsejam-T-Shirt (I was wearing mine, too!), and -bien sur- it was Stephane who was ditributing flyers for the French DT fan club! Again it was cool to meet someone in person who I only knew via e-mail! We talked for a while and he told me that he's the local promoter of the Angra/VP-show in Lyon two days later and he invited me to come to Lyon for the show! Needless to say, I agreed... :)

    15.11.96, Paris, Aquaboulevard, Angra & Vanden Plas: A nice surprise before the concert: Among flyers for the DT fanclub, the Angra fanclub and Lemur Voice (whose album I like though it's not easy to get into...), promo tapes with two songs each of Superior (I hope you know them!) and Eldritch (Italian prog metal band who once opened for DT, they have a new album coming out soon) were distributed! Another example of the great job CNR music does in France! Vanden Plas got quite good reactions from the audience (1500 people!), a lot of people seemed to know their album "Colour Temple". Highlights of their show were "Soul Survives", IMHO their best song (with some Savatage/DT-elements...) and the moment when the vocalist sang a part of a song ("How many tears...") in French ("Combien de larmes..."). Great performance! And then came Angra. They kicked ass, what more can I say... They are all great musicians, both guitarists played solos, one acoustic, one electric, and this was the first time I saw a bass solo at a concert, I'm quite impressed! I loved to finally hear masterpieces like "Carolina V" (with a percussion-intro played by the whole band!) live. They recorded the show this evening for a live album which is planned to be released in may 97. Although the sound wasn't too good, the crowd was like crazy and I'm sure some parts of the album will be quite impressive! Andre Matos did all announcements in French (he talked to me in German, gives the interviews in English, while his mother language is Portuguese...)! During this concert I was near the stage, just in the middle of hell, with feet of crowd-surfers stepping on my head and all... quite an experience. After nearly two hours, the last song they played was Judas Priests "Painkiller" (which they also do on the second JP tribute).

    16.11.96, Lyon, Rail Theatre: Angra & Vanden Plas Hard to believe, but this concert was even better! The sound was great this time, and for me it was a completely different show, 'cause this time I had a place where I could sit and relax, with an excellent view (I had time to choose the best place during the soundcheck of Vanden Plas, thanks to Stephane!). :) Since it was the last date in France, the show wasn't over after "Painkiller": Andre Matos (in French): "Now a little gift for Lyon and our friend Stephane: A song by Iron Maiden!" which was "Wasted Years". And after that, two technicians entered the stage to play guitar/ sing Slayer's "Reign in Blood" (Mike Portnoy content!) with the band. The crowd (the show was sold out,by the way, nearly 600 people) just went crazy. After the show I was talking for a long time to the guys from Vanden Plas, great guys! They are planning to release a new album early next year, the keyboarder, a big Kevin Moore-Fan by the way (good old time KM, that is ;), told me that there will be more songs like "Soul Survives" on the new one, and that's fine with me! :)

    This mail has become very long anyway, so I will end it with a list of my current faves, check them out if you can: Symphony X: The Damnation Game Theatre Of Tragedy: Velvet Darkness They Fear Waltari: Yeah! Yeah! Die! Die! - Death Metal Opera In Deep C Angra: Holy Land

    Macht's gut,

    Ties

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