YTSEJAM Digest 2053
Today's Topics:
1) walt mink
by MillerA@act.org
2) EXISES "Reternity"
by Bruno BIORDI <b.biordi@tornado.be>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2052
by rbeall@fdl.fdldotnet.com (Grim88)
4) Mulchay's is an 18+ show
by augustl@serbia-c.it.earthlink.net (Heath Augustover)
5) weird stuff! We're all so alike...
by "Beavis (Wes Foll)" <wfoll@america.net>
6) Re: How to Get to Rte 9 (which is where Birch Hill is)
by "Robert Quezada" <rquezada@ix.netcom.com>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2051
by Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
8) Re: weird stuff! We're all so alike...
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
9) Re: Steve Vai show in Palo Alto, CA
by Alan <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2051
by Tyler Stephan Kushera <tsk7039@unix.tamu.edu>
11) JP and "soul"
by Tyler Stephan Kushera <tsk7039@unix.tamu.edu>
12) Girl
by Graham Borland <graham@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk>
13) Drums, ACOS, Bruce, Vai
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
14) HELP NEEDED!!
by Stephane AUZILLEAU <auzzy@zen.dedal.fr.net>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2051
by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
16) Hobbies & Flame-Bait
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
17) 25 jams
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
18) Ride from NYC to Paughkeepsie
by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 96 15:09:33 CST
From: MillerA@act.org
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: walt mink
Message-ID: <9610248488.AA848877309@SMTP.ACT.ORG>
have any of you heard of a band called "walt mink"? someone told me at work
that someone online mentioned to them that they were a great prog band, but
this guy didn't have any details beyond that. i was at the local music store
yesterday and saw their cd. i didn't want to buy it, because i have *no* clue
as to what they sound like.
anyone? anyone?
thankya. :)
Andrew
(subtlerage)
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 00:25:23 +0100
From: Bruno BIORDI <b.biordi@tornado.be>
To: YTSEJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: EXISES "Reternity"
Message-ID: <3298D962.5A02@tornado.be>
Hi all of you, YtseJammers !!!
Arrggggggg, I bought last week a CD from a group called "EXISES" ! It
kills ! It's incredible ! Believe me ! It's a new revelation ! You'll
like them ! The song's structure are like OUR favorite Band ! The guitar
aren't so aggressive than DT & the keyboard sounds louder ! The singer
kills ! Hear the begining of the second song : " Dying, ohhhh I'm
dying... " . It sounds like 'Morning comes too early..." Wow !!! Wow !!!
It's not a stupid clone of DT, This group has a REAL personality !
Believe me or you'll miss a great CD !!!!
It's a concept album... Look at the tracklist :
EXISES "Reternity"
------------------
- Point of no return (part I)
- Meltdown Sector 6
- Sole Survivor
- S.P.Y.
- Real of Darkness
- The Transformation
- Fatal Miscount
- Action Reset
- Coming Man
- Space Odyssey - The voyage
- Point of no Return (part II)
A PLANET BORN !!
Here's the full CD information : Cymbeline Records. For Europe licensed
to Mascot Records. Germany by IRS, UK by Plastic HEad, Scandinavia by
MD, Italy by Flying, Denmark by Nordic, Greece by Rock City, Portugal by
Musica Alternativa, Switzerland by Disctrade, France by Disque Concorde,
Spain by MasterTrax, Benelux by PIAS. EXISES "Reternity" CYMBELINE
CYMPLY 5079-2 LC 3090.
Sorry but no information for the States ! Please make the effort for
getting this album !!!
In my 6CD player now : - Exises "Reternity"
- Rush "Test for Echo"
- Working Man
- Angra "Holy land"
- Shadow Gallery "Shadow Gallery"
- Dream Theater "Awake"
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:11:18 -0600
From: rbeall@fdl.fdldotnet.com (Grim88)
To: ytsejam@ax.com, Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2052
Message-ID: <199611250011.SAA05170@fdl.fdldotnet.com>
>> um..any Sam Goody's,Musicland,Specs Music,Tower Records have basically that
>>same price on cd's.. every DT cd..and most other cd's have cost me 17.99!..
>>except Rush-Exit stage left that cost me 13$
>
>i would kill myself if i ever was confined to shop at one of those ripoff
>stores. i pay 5-10 dollars per cd, used places are great, look around your
>area.
> ~Rip
>
Also, if you wana get them new, look for Best Buy and especially, Exclusive
Co. CD's range from $8.00-$12.00...of course, they may have bargin bins wiht
cheaper ones in them.
Ryan Beall aka: Grim88
rbeall@fdl.fdldotnet.com
grim88@hotmail.com
http://members.tripod.com/~Grim88/index.html
"Might as well. Can't dance" -- Jay "Popinjay" Ackroyd
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 19:51:38 -0500
From: augustl@serbia-c.it.earthlink.net (Heath Augustover)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mulchay's is an 18+ show
Message-ID: <v01510100aebe9d7e55dd@[153.35.7.178]>
Wilson Cat wrote this in the jam:
Someone mentioned the Mulcahey's show recently, and on my ticket
it says:
WBAB & BUD LIGHT PRESENT
DREAM THEATRE
21 yrs & older w/ID
MULCAHEY'S
Maybe they changed it to 18+ ?????
Well, I wrote that because it's true. I have a Mulchay's ticket right next
to me and there's no mention of it being 21+. In matter of fact, I have the
newspaper article in front of me too and it clearly says 18+ on it. Plus, I
just happened to win 2 tickets for the show!!!!!!!! Anyway, I made sure
with the DJ and he told me that it is 18+.
Heath Augustover
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:21:55 -0500 (EST)
From: "Beavis (Wes Foll)" <wfoll@america.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: weird stuff! We're all so alike...
Message-ID: <199611250121.UAA14785@web1.america.net>
hey, I know this thread is a little old, but I just thought I'd add that I
used to love to skateboard, watch anime cartoons (such as Akira etc.) and
stuff. I also read the first 3 or 4 series of the Dragonlance books, and
now of course, I listen to prog rock (oh yah, and lots and lots of
thrash/speed stuff!!). "Weird wild stuff!" as Johnny Carson would say! haha
Right now, I've got 2 Satriani cds and one Stevie Ray Vaughn cd stuck in the
player on shuffle mode...cool eh!? Not that it matters, just thought I'd
give you that little nugget. And in my car cd player I have Pantera's
Trendkill album loaded up ready to go for tomorrow morning's drive to school
and work. Pretty diverse wouldn't you say?! Later on tonight I'll probably
stick in some good new age music in my changer such as Tangerine Dream or
something like that, maybe even Oystein Sevag...he's good too. MUSIC RULZ
Beavis (Wes Foll) http://www.america.net/~wfoll/beavis.htm
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 22:27:45 -0500
From: "Robert Quezada" <rquezada@ix.netcom.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: How to Get to Rte 9 (which is where Birch Hill is)
Message-ID: <199611250329.TAA19876@dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com>
> In NJ there are two MAJOR highways. Garden State Parkway and NJ Turnpike
> Any map will help you to find one of those two.
> If you are on the Turnpike, you want the exit for the Garden State
Parkway.
> Take the Garden State Parkway South to exit 123. It should be the second
exit
> after the 35cent toll.
If you take the Turnpike from the south, it will take you longer to go up
to exit 11 (GSP) and then go south with Route 9 than if you take Route 18
from the Turnpike.
If you're closer to exit 9 (Route 18) on the Turnpike, take that and go
Route 18 south. Keep going until the highway turns into a "freeway". This
should be 10 to 15 minutes. At this point, you should see an exit for
Route 9 south. Take the exit. Birch Hill is a little bit after the
traffic light.
> There are a zillion back roads...but quite frankly, you'll get lost if
you take
> em.
rq
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:33:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2051
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.961124233208.11810A-100000@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
Yo,
If there is anyone out there that would wanna buy 2 Birch Hill tickets
please email me privately and we can set something up. Thanks all!!!
Later,
Dan
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 22:07:18 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: weird stuff! We're all so alike...
Message-ID: <199611250510.WAA21993@cyberhighway.net>
> Right now, I've got 2 Satriani cds and one Stevie Ray Vaughn cd stuck in the
> player on shuffle mode...cool eh!? Not that it matters, just thought I'd
> give you that little nugget. And in my car cd player I have Pantera's
> Trendkill album loaded up ready to go for tomorrow morning's drive to school
> and work. Pretty diverse wouldn't you say?! Later on tonight I'll probably
> stick in some good new age music in my changer such as Tangerine Dream or
> something like that, maybe even Oystein Sevag...he's good too. MUSIC RULZ
> Beavis (Wes Foll) http://www.america.net/~wfoll/beavis.htm
An I thought I was the only person like that. I can be listening to
Les Miserables one minute and throw in some Paradise Lost! or Pantera
the next. Heheh... Rock on!
Disclaimer: All entries posted in this text are copyrighted by
KorgX3 and are subject to applicable laws. Unauthorized
reproduction of any entry contained within without written consent of
the owner is strictly forbidden. "Rokz nadz, kikz butz, and hott
chikz" are trademarks owned by KorgX3. :)
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 01:27:02 -0600
From: Alan <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Steve Vai show in Palo Alto, CA
Message-ID: <199611250727.BAA94341@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
I went to a G3 show in San Antonio, i didnt get pictures, did you?
I would like to have a copy of Mike Keneally CD
I saw him in G3 too, I have a video of Extreme live with Mike Mangini
playing drums if you want it, let me know...
thanks...
At 05:11 PM 22/11/96 -0800, Tall UFO Productions wrote:
>I saw Steve Vai last night at a rather small club. I think capacity was
>about 850 or so...But let me say...THIS SHOW WAS THE MOST FUCKING
>INCREDIBLE THING I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!! Steve was just phenomenal...he
>blew me away. Plus, the opening act, Mike Keneally, rocked just as hard!
> I bought his CD, and it is totally excellent. Very Zappa, but a little
>more on the heavy side. From what I understand, Keneally used to play
>with Zappa. His style and Vai's are quite similar, seeing as how they
>both played with Frank, it's understandable.
>
>But, if Steve's coming anywhere near where you live on this tour, and you
>can't decide whether to go or not, FUCKING DO IT!!! Especially if you
>missed G3...
>
>-Nate
>
>
"You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do
your next."
Stay cool...
at least somebody's cool as you
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 03:03:27 -0600 (CST)
From: Tyler Stephan Kushera <tsk7039@unix.tamu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2051
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961125025606.12428A-100000@tam2000.tamu.edu>
Warning: No DTC... please disregard if you want some.
As a Dallasite, I've heard that Pantera was, as Rip said, a Motley Crue
type of band in the late eighties (but werent they all). I also heard
that they swithed to the "crunch" sound to "make it." Apparently they
sucked until they switched styles, and couldnt sell tickets at Trees, if
you know what Trees is (its on the back of some Dallas based bands's
CD). But this is only what I have heard and is definately conjecture
throughout the Dallas/Ft. Worth/Arlington metroplex.
~tyler
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 03:25:44 -0600 (CST)
From: Tyler Stephan Kushera <tsk7039@unix.tamu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: JP and "soul"
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961125030652.12428C-100000@tam2000.tamu.edu>
I know I'm gonna get slammed for this but oh well... I dont think JP
plays with as much soul as I would like. Passion yes, soul no. I know the
differences are subtle and often they are the same thing, but I see a
difference. I think it has to with his classical training. I dont play
my tombone with
much soul either, even in jazz band, primarily because I'm a classical
player by training. Of course I'm comparing him to SRV and Hendrix.
Most people who are already angry wont take much out of what's next;
during the guiter solo on the DT video, the name of which escapes me
(Live in Japan maybe), you can hear the immaculately clean playing but
there is little in the way of "soul." It seems written out and rehearsed
to death. Even my father, not an authority on music by any means, but a
self taught musician and ex-music producer thought it lacked that little
something.
Dont get me wrong, I think JP is one of the, if not THE, best players in
the world right now. But, as all of my fellow musicians can attest to,
there is always something to work on, to make better. In JP's case, I
think he can work on changing things up and work on his blues/soul
playing.
~tyler a.k.a. the guy who needs to look "soul" up in the thesaraus
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:17:57 +0000 (GMT)
From: Graham Borland <graham@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk>
To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Girl
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.93.961125111704.24075A-100000@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk>
I am a girl, and I like Dream Theater.
I have even signed Kevin Moore's breast.
Graham B.
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 03:47:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Drums, ACOS, Bruce, Vai
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.961125032721.43260C-100000@homer20.u.washington.edu>
> From: saveur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
> Subject: Re: Big Bro etc.
>
> i listened through most of the file. i think Portnoy's cut out of it :(
> he is introduced for the final jam tho -somewhere around 2:09:00, i
> think.
I spoke with a member of the organization known as Ward Music (organizers
of '96 PacRim Drum Invitational). They didn't know anything about the
website and thus disassociated themselves with its creation/maintenance.
They also said that the release of an available audio/video of the show
for public enjoyment would be near-impossible as they would need the
permission of every performer who played at, and every sponsor associated
with, the show. Neat how the fans are the only ones who think it would be
beneficial to get this sort of business done BEFORE the event. Get 'em on
their way IN, not after they've dispersed to the infinite corners of the
earth.
---- > From: saveur <saveur@cais.cais.com> > Subject: Re: Pre-BH gathering? Post-BH gathering? > > 1376 ACoS's till Birch Hell (give or take a couple).HAAAA!! KEEP THE TRADITION ALIVE, SAV!! :)
---- > From: Eric Hansen <ehansen@apu.edu> > Subject: Odd musings, Girls, Bruce. > > I've noticed that there are a few Maiden fans around here. Did any of > you pick up "Balls to Picaso", Dickinson's "solo" project? What did ya > think? I thought it was pretty cool, he's kinda mellowed out since the > Seventh Son... days.
DT had "Cyclops" as one of its crowd-warm-up tunes playing before the Awake show the last time they came around, or it might have been FW who chose it. That song was cool, but I returned the album after one listen.
---- > From: tallufo@juno.com (Tall UFO Productions) > Subject: Steve Vai show in Palo Alto, CA > > But, if Steve's coming anywhere near where you live on this tour, and > you can't decide whether to go or not, FUCKING DO IT!!! Especially if > you missed G3...
Unfortunately Keneally said the chance of them hitting the Northwest was very slim, so I doubt they'll make an appearance here.
Bafu
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:12:17 +0100 (MET) From: Stephane AUZILLEAU <auzzy@zen.dedal.fr.net> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: HELP NEEDED!! Message-ID: <199611250712.IAA23413@zen.dedal.fr.net>
Hi Jammers,
Are there some jammers in New Jersey that plan to go to the 3 first shows of "the fix for 96 tour" (Poughkeepsie, Long Island, New Haven)? I will come from France for these shows and the hotel where I stay is in East Rutherford (NJ). I'm looking for a seat in a car or I can rent a car and drive you for free to the shows, but I need some help to find the venues. I hope that someone will be able to help me. Please e-mail privately at: auzzy@zen.dedal.fr.net I'm thanking you in advance for your help and solidarity. I think I will bring with me some interesting gifts for those who will help me. Hope to see you in Poughkeepsie and after!
Stephane Auzilleau editor of Your Majesty, French DT fanzine.
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:53:50 -0500 (EST) From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2051 Message-ID: <v01510100aebf0e27e1f3@[137.238.26.12]>
>There's a fair number of us here. Those who occasionally post are Jaime, >Babs, Jazzmin, Pam, Madelaine, (I hope I'm spelling your name >correctly!), Charone, Rachel, Irene, , Suz, Jen A. et al. The cool thing >is that a number of us are in pretty regular communication with each >other outside of the list. Who knows how many lurk!
Uh-oh - that last sentence is gonna torment the men on this list (laugh).
-BABS
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 06:02:01 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Hobbies & Flame-Bait Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.961125055222.64914B-100000@homer16.u.washington.edu>
> From: nicole mercedes gerace <lunitaria@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: DT and DL > > i have noticed that most of my friends who are into Dream Theater are > also into the same hobbies outside of music. For instance, we *all* > read DragonLance, about half of us used to skateboard, and *all* of us > love anime. has anyone else noticed this?
I've never read DragonLance. I've never skateboarded. I've seen about two or three animes in my life. One was called "Ranma," which featured characters who were having difficulty in maintaining a set gender, but was nonetheless very entertaining. The other was called "Appleseed," which I thought was kinda cool. Regardless of the plot, both of these animes featured a healthy number of big guns.
> another query - is it really so rare for a female to love DT? I noticed > one other besides me (i think her name is Jill) on the list, and in my > area, I am the only chickie. hmmm.......any explanations or ideas?
Someone once said that DT's music was complex and intricate. "Thinking" music that an untrained ear or mind would have to plow through and ponder upon first contact in order to truly appreciate or understand.
I venture that this has something to do with the parallel theory that men display a heightened usage of the analytical regions of the brain whereas women use more of the empathetic regions. This pattern of thought and choice within the human brain is not my decision or preference. It existed before I was born. I am observing what Is and answering a question based on a conclusion I have arrived at. Anyone with an eager swastika-brand may feel free to disinvite me from their sandbox.
Analytical : Empathetic :: Progressive Metal : Country
(No, Elliott, this is not a slam against country music. I just think it's more music that you feel, and feel immediately, whereas a lot of progressive music I've heard takes several listens to assimilate and get into.)
Of course, it could just have to do with the fact that men are naturally violent and enjoy breaking stuff and destroying things. Man do we love it! Ain't nothing like strangling some random guy in a moshpit (ESPECIALLY during a really good drum solo with lots of rototoms and double-kick action)! Energetic music allows us to further realize our potential for obliteration of objects/people. I disbelieve that country music could ever move me to violent, abusive activity. But Dream Theater? Let's get ready to RUMBLE!!
"You open the airlock, you suck wind."
Bafu
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:36:23 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: 25 jams Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961125093507.22734A@bdmserver>
Only gone a week and there are only 25 jams in my inbox to read...
Have to read them all in case there is 1 or two important posts...
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Hail to the Redskins 8-4 ** Congrats to the 1996 MLS Champs-DC UNITED | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:16:20 -0700 (MST) From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Ride from NYC to Paughkeepsie Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961125091226.1659C-100000@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Hey jammerz! Me and Brian Levy are planning on going to the Paughkeepsie in one short week, but we need some help. If anybody is heading north from the city or Jersey, we could really use a ride. I've looked into MetroNorth trains, and we could get to the venue, but there's no guarantee that there will be a train coming back after the show. I don't want to get stuck in Paughkeepsie for the night, with work on Thursday, etc. No offense, I'm sure its a raging town!!! :) Anyhelp would be appreciated! Please e-mail me back privately if you can help two DT fanatics!! Thank you! -Adam
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