YTSEJAM digest 2064

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Fri Nov 29 1996 - 19:13:44 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 2064

    Today's Topics:

      1) req: ISBN for I&W Songbook
     by Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
      2) Re: H A P P Y T H A N K S G I V I N G ! ! !
     by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
      3) Gary Hoey in Iowa
     by "Todd O. Klindt" <pendragn@netins.net>
      4) latest band craving, cow, moo, etc.
     by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
      5) DT first 3 Holiday Shows Info Needed!
     by Joseph Cristina <joecr@ici.net>
      6) Re: Gary Hoey in Iowa
     by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
      7) Re: Queensryche CD Singles (NDTC)
     by "Eddie J Cooper" <eddie@abacus.co.uk>
      8) Queensryche 'Bridge' CD Single
     by progmetalgjb@s054.aone.net.au
      9) any cool uk mags?
     by Achilles <ep180@city.ac.uk>
     10) Fix for 96
     by psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
     11)
     by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
     12) news from Mtv.
     by Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
     13) What is Prog-music ?!?
     by Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se>
     14) Re: news from Mtv.
     by vgl@u.arizona.edu (Vincent LuPone)
     15) Birch Hill PreMeet
     by Heather Powers <ladydragon@iberia-c.it.earthlink.net>
     16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2060
     by smilodon@data.net.mx (Raul Rodriguez)

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    Date: Thu, 28 Nov 96 18:14:36 -0600
    From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: req: ISBN for I&W Songbook
    Message-ID: <329e2ae92267004@cliff.ou.edu>

    can't find this, got the address for warner bros in Miami (anyone got an
    800#?). It sure helps the (*(*&*###^#@^$^($^_ customer service reps when
    they have the ISBN. I used to work at Barnes & Noble and learned that ISBNs
    are always filed (get ready for this) in NUMERICAL ORDER! However, book
    titles are almost always screwed up. Keyword searching may or may not
    reveal the desired information.

    Also, who is the "official" author? JP was listed as "editor" of the Awake
    book.

    PLEASE EMAIL ME... anyone searching can also email me... I'll have the info
    on file forever, so if you're reading this a year later then try to find
    me... I'll still have it, assuming someone sends it to me.

    Thanks in advance.

    Jazzmin

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    Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 17:36:19 +0000
    From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: H A P P Y T H A N K S G I V I N G ! ! !
    Message-ID: <199611290038.RAA14209@cyberhighway.net>

    > Oh well. Someone start posting lyrics from original material, let's have
    > the critics step out of the closet and get some good technical discussions
    > going relating to literature for a change.

    (Doing his best Horschak impersonation) Oohh... Ohhh.!!!!!!
    (writhing in desk)

    Anyone got lyrics from the new album yet? I know a few of you have
    copies of a couple of the new songs on demos. Slap some of those
    babies up here so we can revel in their philosphical intrigue!
    That would be kewl. :)

    Laterz!
     
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    chikz" are trademarks owned by KorgX3. :)

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    Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:09:02 -0600
    From: "Todd O. Klindt" <pendragn@netins.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Gary Hoey in Iowa
    Message-ID: <329E45BE.32AF@netins.net>

    Hi all,
      Just dropping a note. Gary Hoey and a couple of other folks are gonna
    be in concert in Des Moines on the 19th of December at The Edge. The
    reason I bring this up is because the concert costs $1.03 plus two cans
    of food. There is a radio station in Des Moines that is 103.3 and
    they're putting this whole thing on. If there's anybody that wants to
    see Hoey cheap, this is it.

    see ya'
    todd

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    Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 21:16:24 -0600
    From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
    To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: latest band craving, cow, moo, etc.
    Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961129031624.007041e8@mail.inlink.com>

    well since i spent a good portion of the day on the road with my cds and
    portable cd player, i've discovered a new cd which i'm totally engrossed
    with now. I Mother Earth's Scenery and Fish. at first listen a few weeks
    back i wasnt overjoyed, i thought it was good, but nothing more... by now i
    most definately can say they're one of my favorite bands, and this is one of
    their best releases (even though they've only had two, Dig being the other,
    i used to find superior but now find about equal) if i had to describe
    them i'd say a mix between candlebox, seed, tesla, and on a few tracks red
    hot chili peppers. amazing melodies, and the disc has a cool enhanced cd
    feature where you can view the band Bio, clips from their first cd, watch
    videos, and check out cool pictures, plus more... its well worth your money,
    and its well worth your ear.. even if it takes a while to sink in sometimes,
    if you've got an open mind about exploring new music and get into any of the
    bands i mentioned as influences you're really gonna like this.

    cow.

    moo.
                                            ~Rip

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    Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:29:19 -0500 (EST)
    From: Joseph Cristina <joecr@ici.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: DT first 3 Holiday Shows Info Needed!
    Message-ID: <199611290329.WAA28838@uhura.ici.net>

    Hi Jammers,

    Can anyone going to these shows email me privately (joecr@ici.net)
    and let me know what was the last song the DJ played before DT
    took the Stage and how long the show was? So my friend can prepare
    accordingly to tape the CT & RI shows?

    Thanx
    Joe

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    Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 21:40:58 -0600 (CST)
    From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Gary Hoey in Iowa
    Message-ID: <199611290340.VAA01240@parka.winternet.com>

    >
    > Hi all,
    > Just dropping a note. Gary Hoey and a couple of other folks are gonna
    > be in concert in Des Moines on the 19th of December at The Edge. The
    > reason I bring this up is because the concert costs $1.03 plus two cans
    > of food. There is a radio station in Des Moines that is 103.3 and

    Hey I saw Gary's Christmas show last year in PHX, AZ. It was a ton of fun.
    Admission was a Toy of some sort, all was given to the PHX Childrens hosptial.
    If you have a chance I would definately go see it.

    Nathan Bradley
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    Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:35:16 +0000
    From: "Eddie J Cooper" <eddie@abacus.co.uk>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Queensryche CD Singles (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <9611290934.AA08752@sphinx>

    On 28 Nov 96 at 16:07, ytsejam@ax.com wrote about YTSEJAM digest
    2063:

    > Spiff asked about the "Bridge" single. There are at least two of
    > these. Part1 and part2. One of them has some live tunes, "Lady Wore
    > Black," Damaged," and "the Killing Words." The other has "Dirty Lil'
    > Secret," "Real World," and "Someone Else - Full Band Version." I
    > think there is yet a third version with more live tracks. I only
    > have two. Part one is an English Import with the live songs. I don't
    > have part two. The other one I have is a German import, with the
    > studio tracks.

    The 2 UK versions of Bridge had "Damaged", "Lady Wore Black" & "The
    Killing Words" on one CD, & "Silent Lucidity", "My Empty Room" &
    "Real World" (ALL live from the London Astoria show at the start of
    the Promised Land tour) on the other.

    The other track listing you have given exists on the UK release of "I
    Am I".

    Laterz };-)~
    Eddie

    Everyone should be a non-conformist.
    Caffeine/Marlboro: not found. Operator halted...

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    Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 21:37:57 +0000
    From: progmetalgjb@s054.aone.net.au
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Queensryche 'Bridge' CD Single
    Message-ID: <199611291040.VAA29597@mail.mel.aone.net.au>

    Hey There Yammer's,
                                       There is also a different version
    of 'Bridge' from the UK . When I was in England last year I picked up 'Bridge' as
    a two part CD set for the ridiculous price of 1.99ea ( About $8 for
    both CD's !), and it has the following tracks on it:
    CD 1 CD2
    1. Bridge 1. Bridge
    2. Damaged * 2. Silent Lucidity *
    3. The Killing Words * 3. My Empty Room *
    4. The Lady Wore Black * 4. Real World *

    * Tracks recorded live at the Astoria London October 20th 1994.
    They are both great CD's, if you can find them anywhere ??!!

    Cheers Graham

    Currently listening to:
    MARILLION- Various Boots.
    VANDEN PLAS- 'Colour Temple', great power/prog metal, fans of SUPERIOR
    will love this album.
    ANGRA- 'Freedom Call', no need to say anymore ?

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    Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:47:22 +0000 (GMT)
    From: Achilles <ep180@city.ac.uk>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: any cool uk mags?
    Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961129133959.1490C-100000@cookham>

    Hello Jammers,
    I was just wandering if there are any cool metal mags in the UK, which are
    about metal as opposed to hardcore,death/black metal, alternative, punk
    etc. If any jammer has a suggestion I'd really appreciate it! thanks!

    and now...

    DT Content!!!

    Anybody ever notice how James LaBrie cannot pronounce properly "H" ?
    for example in live versions of "fortune in lies" you always hear him sing
    "a _k_ero in frozen water" instead of _h_ero...

    and as for the "kyrie eleison" (sp?)

    >By the way its latin for "may the Lord guide me".

    latin? I thought that was Greek... well, I dunno, maybe it has latin
    origins... :)

    Achilles \\ "You turned me round to face myself, //
    Metalhead and \\ made me trust in what I am" //
    Dream Theater fan \\ Rage - All this time //

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    Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:00:55 -0500
    From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Fix for 96
    Message-ID: <199611291348.IAA23028@uhura.ici.net>

    >What audience size will DT be playing for at the Christmas shows,
    >approximately?
    >
    >(No, I'm NOT asking about D-Man's bra size here, I'm asking about how
    >many people will be there).

    I can't speak for all the venues, but the Strand holds almost 2,000 people
    and DT usually gets a pretty good turnout. Say 1200-1500, maybe more this
    time because of "travellers". :)

    -----

    >- Vicious Rumors "Word of Mouth"

    Yesss!!!!! I would recommend this highly. Everyone should order this
    immediately. :) If you are unsure, I have a sound clip from the song
    "Against The Grain" (from this album), among others linked from my web page
    (RealAudio 3.0 format) or directly at
    http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/sounds.html

    Listen and enjoy.

    -----

    __<psull@ici.net>__http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html

           This space for rent...No pithy quotes need apply
    _________________________________________________________________

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    Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:46:20 -0500 (EST)
    From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Message-ID: <199611291746.MAA00261@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>

            On the subject of guitarists: You really can't judge anybody and
    how they play their particular instrument. You either like what they do, or
    you don't. That easy. You shouldn't judge anybody for playing a different
    style of music. Kurt Cobain (in my opinion) sucked in comparison to
    Petrucci but I still respect Cobain for his work.

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    Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:10:35 -0500
    From: Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: news from Mtv.
    Message-ID: <199611292009.MAA26051@desiree.teleport.com>

            Wow, quite the interesting news bit was in this mornings "Oregonian"
    newspaper. Apparently, MTV has decided to change its format drastically.
    They are "going against the grain", looking for the "next big thing". So,
    as it says, they are majorly cutting their hip-hop, rap, and alternative
    rock playlists. They are going to be more diverse and showcase "all" types
    of music, not just what is popular. The thing that caught my eye is the new
    show "Enter the Mosh Pit" starting next month for "hard-edged music". Whoa!
    This is the same description MuchMusic gave to its excellent show Loud.
    Does this mean we might see Pantera, Fear Factory, Sepultura and maybe even
    DT on MTV soon? Here's hoping!

            michelob, who is wondering if our letters made a difference!

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    Date: Fri, 29 Nov 96 22:01 NFT
    From: Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: What is Prog-music ?!?
    Message-ID: <m0vTa3b-0002fKC@tellus.thn.htu.se>

    Hi all,
     please forsee me uncunningness, but I for one have a problem here. First I
    guess I have to say that I'm a Swede, because when I speak about music with
    my friends here, they define groups like DT, Rush, Saga, Marillion as
    Symphonic, NOT Progressive. Is it the same with any of you?
     Progressive, here, stands for very political stuff (read:
    socialistic/communistic), and that type of music has a lot to do with the
    68-movement. The same sort of stuff that made Woodstock and
    Students-revolutions and all that. So here you can not use the word
    progressive music, while talking about our DT.
     Is there a universal definition of symphonic, or what does it mean for you
    personally? Is it exactly the same as progressive, or what? Which bands
    would you put in each category?
    =20
     Please note that this topic belongs to the list, and therefore you may
    preferably use public-mails (ie Yts=E9 Jam).=20
    Take care, amigos/
    -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D=
    -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-
    Henrik Gustafsson henrik@thn.htu.se
     Quality deployer +46(0)520-47 50 49 [fax +46(0)520-47 50 99]

       =20

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    Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:04:21 -0700
    From: vgl@u.arizona.edu (Vincent LuPone)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: news from Mtv.
    Message-ID: <199611292104.OAA28528@nevis.u.arizona.edu>

    You've gotta be kidding me!! eMpTyVee is gonna play METAL???? WHEN THE
    HELL DID THIS HAPPEN???? If you could, post some more details on this little
    tidbit. I'm sure everyone on this list would be mighty interested in the
    "ENTER THE MOSH PIT" program. AWWWWW, I miss the Headbangers' Ball.

    Later all,

            Peace be with you and God bless,

            ~Vince

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    Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 16:48:15 -0800
    From: Heather Powers <ladydragon@iberia-c.it.earthlink.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Birch Hill PreMeet
    Message-ID: <BMSMTP8493145440ladydragon@mail.earthlink.net>

       Ok... I give up. Seeing as how Im the local, I guess I'm organizing the meet
    ( unless someone else wants to , cause we all know how I dread the idea of this
    kind of thing now) TGIF's will take us, no problem. I need an aproximate count
    ASAP though. How far in advance I have to reserve depends upon that number. E
    Mail me at ladydragon@earthlink.net.
     If you need directions, then also tell me where from and I'll attempt to draw
    you a map.

    Till Later,
    ladydragon

    Happy Late Turkey Day.....gobble gobble click click chuchink

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    Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 16:11:08 -0600
    From: smilodon@data.net.mx (Raul Rodriguez)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2060
    Message-ID: <199611292211.QAA04729@nic.data.net.mx>

    >From: W_RICK_PIERPONT@BDHQ.BD.COM
    >Subject: John Petrucci
          
    > Personally, I think that some of JP's rhythms are more difficult
    > than his solos. More importantly, they are rich and textured, adding
    > much to overall quality of the song.

    hi there

    I agree, JP rhythms are more dificult to play for me. The solos are great
    but if you study speed, scales, arpegios, etc, you can play it,it is not
    easy but you can achieve the goal. Sometime you focus your plaing in the
    dificult stuff and forget the bases "the rhythm". that is why i like JP, he
    is a complete guitarrist

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