YTSEJAM Digest 1893
Today's Topics:
1) Joys of wedded life...
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
2) Scenes from a Memory
by Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
3) Lemur Voice, Shadow Gallery, and DT
by "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu.edu>
4) Baba Booey!
by Big.Swifty@twav.com
5) Two ears and one mouth
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
6) RUSH!
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
7) Re: S Bach/Skid Row
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1892
by Rick <Richard_Harris@brown.edu>
9) Hairball Lives!, G3 in Philly
by David Neff <dneff@maaco.com>
10) web jammers, the beast
by fba25110@centum.utulsa.edu (bruce forst)
11) Support your local almond!
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
12) Re: Support your local almond!
by Carlos Alfaro <kurt@fgallery.com>
13) Dt Icons
by Carlos Alfaro <kurt@fgallery.com>
14) skids!
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
15) vai's voice
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
16) My Latest Trip to Best Buy AKA Heaven
by "Kevin W. Madden" <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
17) NEW "Most Frequent Poster List"
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
18) Connecticut Tape Trees
by The Analog Kid <dhplotki@students.wisc.edu>
19) TICKET INFO: Rush - Philly show (Nov. 6)
by robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 96 15:01:23 +0200
From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de
Subject: Joys of wedded life...
Message-ID: <9610011301.AA00262@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi all
I know my subject sounds like an oxymoron (rapidly becoming the most popular
word on the Jam), but I have a real question that popped (as against pooped)
into my alcohol-crazed mind last night. So here goes:
I know some of you people out there are married (or are planning to do so,
or are living in sin with concubines etc. etc.), and I was wondering whether
any of you have problems with your spouses/lovers/live-in dildo replacements
because of the music you like to listen to. I'm still married (waiting for
divorce procedings to start, which can take a loooong time in Germany), and my
musical taste, or lack thereof, lead to some big trouble along the lines of
"can't you see I'm trying to watch TV, do you have to listen to that stuff so
loud, you'll wake the dogs with that noise, how can you listen to that row,
you didn't listen to this when we first met, why did I ever marry you".
Not that I'm wishing you any of this shit, but be warned: it can happen to you.
But honestly, I would really be interested to know whether you have to take
other people into account when you play music - I guess all you college kids
don't, because I certainly didn't when I was at university. Those were the
days - Sex Pistols, The Clash, UB40, The Cure, Madness, The Specials, The
Police, Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd, and a stereo that only had two volume
settings: OFF and ear-bleedingly load.
Oh well, just remains to say that I'm really looking forward to going to a good
concert tomorrow - Rotting Christ, Theatre Of Tragedy, Moonspell, Samael and
Gorefest. I'll let you know how it went.
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop
(nga@software-ag.de)
Currently playing: Fates Warning - Inside Out
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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:23:00 -0500
From: Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Scenes from a Memory
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=GE%l=AMERIDATA/ADNC/00026181@adnc.ameridata.com>
I just got my copy of Majesty's SFAM. I have two questions,
1. I thought "Eve" had lyrics?
2. Why is the instrumental version of PMU called "Oliver Twist"? Is this
a "pre-PMU" instrumental recording?
These may have already been answered on the JAM, but my opportunities to
peruse this fine piece of electronic literature has sometimes been
sporadic.
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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:32:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Lemur Voice, Shadow Gallery, and DT
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9610011052.A267197-0100000@acs1.bu.edu>
So, I've now listened to all of Lemur Voice, and like, Brian
said, WOW!!!!!!!! This is a great disk! I'm very impressed by the
musicianship of this group! The vocals need a bit of work IMO, but I
think that it may be a function of the language issue more than any thing
else. My favorite song of the album is the first one, and the next two
instrumentals absolutely SHRED!!!!!
But, I'm gonna have to say that Shadow Gallery is better by a
hair tho. Their classical influence and use of piano and
synthesizer interludes in between tracks really add to the feel of the album.
And the song and lyrics merge beautifully. When I listen to the first
track of Ghost Ship, I feel like I'm part of the "pre-party" event before
a big Vikings Invasion or something. Don't Cry, Just Remember, also
matches well with the lyrics.
DT content time... DT of course, beats em all, but could they
PLEASE get a producer so I can listen to some new stuff???
-jeremy
PS Anyone in the Boston area know when the heck Rush tickets for the
early November show go on sale? I wanna go!
+==========================================================================+
# _ ,/| #grad student, Boston U.# jhallum@bu.edu #
# '\`o O' # Boston, MA 02134 # Seen on the bumper of a Shadow #
# =(_^_)= # Astronomy # Battlecrab: #
# |U| # <*> <*> <*> # Oh, I'm sorry, was that YOUR world? #
# # Jeremy Hallum # Morden '96: He knows what YOU want! #
+==========================================================================+
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Date: 1 Oct 1996 10:48:04 CDT
From: Big.Swifty@twav.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Baba Booey!
Message-ID: <199610011548.IAA10697@pawn.ax.com>
YT> he then asked : "Who IS THIS AGAIN!!!"
YT> So I realized that the phone call was a dead issue...so I proceeded
YT>him if he thought that Rush fan's were going to arrive at concerts with
YT>snipper rifles, due to SRO managements choice on banning the Working Man CD
YT>in Canada:
YT> He hung up on me!
YT>Oh Well...
YT>M O J O M A N
Stuttering John would be proud, Mo. I think it sucks about Extreme, tho-
They were one of a few bands I want to see live before I kick the
proverbial bucket - DT is another, as is Superior. Oh well...
Take it easy, people,
Mark Peters
big.swifty@twav.com
PS - Rick, I was referred to you by my doctor after he diagnosed me with
acute cranial rectosis. He said you had expertise in this area. Can you
help me?
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Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 16:12:26 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Two ears and one mouth
Message-ID: <325142EA.4A7B@mailstorm.dot.gov>
> ....KELVIN MOORE....
Now peforming at absolute zero in a pressurized tank near you :)
By the way, I just listened to chromakey.wav samples and I had a
question for the Music theory folks. What the heck is going on in that
second part? Could someone disect it for me? Is it some sort of complex
overlapping whatcha-ma-call-it poly-thing-a-ma-jig?
Rip got ripped and ripped out the following:
> sure, we may bitch and rant a lot, but hey, we're YTSEJAMMERS. its in > our job description.
you couldn't pay me enough to bitch as much as I've been seeing lately.
have a day,
*------------*------------------------*--------------*
| Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 |
*------------*------------------------*--------------*
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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:19:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RUSH!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961001121902.23927C-100000@bdmserver>
Just heard on the radio that on the current leg of the RUSH tour there is
no opening act and the band will play two sets of about 1 hour 15 minutes!
That is cool. More Rush is always better!
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
|=======================================================================|
| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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| Hail to the Redskins 4-1 * Go Orioles-Playoff bound in 1996!!! |
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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:23:52 PST
From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: S Bach/Skid Row
Message-ID: <199610011625.QAA70383@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 10/01/96 08:00am -0700
Hey,
I think Bach is probably one of the best singers out in music
right now. He can sing better than just about anyone. He can
scream loud, sing loud, even growl a bit...frankly, if Skid
Row wasn't around, that should have been Maiden's new singer
:) What do you expect when you come from the school of Halford
vocal lessons :)
Mark
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
\|
I stand at the promised land with Fire In my Eyes!
WASP-The Crimson Idol
msmeets@ibm.net or msmeets@smartt.com
http://www.smartt.com/~jsmeets/stranger/stranger.htm
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Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 12:44:58 -0400
From: Rick <Richard_Harris@brown.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1892
Message-ID: <199610011646.MAA07521@golden.brown.edu>
> There's been talk on the net recently about what exactly progressive
music is. I don't really have much insofar as a personal definition, but I
do have a question. Would you guys consider bands like The Who or Frank
Zappa progressive? I tend to think that they are, but I'd like to hear what
others think.
Rick from
Providence, RI -- home of "Buddy."
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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:13:38 -0400
From: David Neff <dneff@maaco.com>
To: "'YtseJam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Hairball Lives!, G3 in Philly
Message-ID: <01BBAFA2.C0144FE0@W10148>
Hey Jammers!
Long time no post! For those of you who remember Hairball,
I finally heard back from him (I've been keeping him up to
date about YC3). He says HI! and he's alive and well, living
in North Carolina, but sends his regrets that he won't be
able to make it to the YtseCon. :(
> From: Jack Daniels <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
> Also is Steve Vai and his tour gonna stop in Philly????
> Dan
. assuming you mean G3 ...
YES!! Monday Oct. 28 at the Valley Forge Music Fair!! Woo-hoo!
I don't know when tix go on sale, but I'll be there!
If anybody wants to meet up before the show, drop me a line;
I only live about a mile from there.
See y'all at the YtseCon!
- Dave Neff (dneff@maaco.com)
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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:32:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: fba25110@centum.utulsa.edu (bruce forst)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: web jammers, the beast
Message-ID: <199610011932.MAA14906@pawn.ax.com>
>I've been working on my website since early July, and I've finally put the
>finishing touches on it. There are still a few mistakes, but I finally
>think it's presentable. It's only registered on Alta Vista right now, but
>I'll have it on other search engines soon. If you get a minute, check it
>out and lemme know what you think. The background and Electro Voice things
>are courtesy of Paintbrush. The URL is:
>
>http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/8243/index.html
>
>Mark Tomko
I checked it out for ya, looks good in Netscape 3.0. The background though
kinda reminds me of the blood slides I used to look at in phys. lab. hmmm..?
Ytseblood. How much space does geocities allot? I may want to try this.
>YT>667: Neighbor of the Beast
>
> Maybe 668 would be more logical :P
yea, 667 is the guy across the street who can't help but look through the
curtains everytime the beast comes home. 668 is the bastard next door who
always comes home at three a.m with some rap song booming a new faultline,
keeping the beast up when he's trying to get some well deserved rest.
Hey!! Maybe frederico was just trying to make us forget about mindcrimer? It
worked I suppose. And he apologized...
I just wanted to say also that Brain Wherry ROCKS!!! That is so cool. If you
haven't checked out the local talent do so... could I get a tape?
http://acs.bu.edu:8001/~bwherry/music.html
Just one more thing. I don't think a band ever starts with the intention of
making crappy music. The focus of the band ultimately determines the music.
Some feel that they have something to offer even if they aren't the best
musicians in the world. They have something to say. Its tempting to slag a
band just because they can hardly play an instrument and can't carry a tune
but its art not sport. I paint and I suck at it too. To those that
intentionally sell their souls to be famous I piss on their hedges in contempt.
A white bronco just pulled up... gotta run. -bruce
----b-r-u-c-e-f-o-r-s-t--------------------------------------
The tea was begging to be steeped
And the shower was hissing for some attention
But the only thing that was on my mind
Was lunch in the sun
----------------------------------B.W. Kull-------------------
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Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 19:38:26 GMT
From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Support your local almond!
Message-ID: <3251703a.1801540@mail.inforamp.net>
Good afternoon,
>Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 16:31:18 +0100
>From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
>The good news: SUPERIOR will play the German tour for Kamelot! YES! :)
Alright Bernd Almond! :)
Congrats and good luck on the tour! Break lots of legs! ;)
>That's it. I'd be happy if I would meet some of you there...
Fly me over and I'm there. :)
>Sorry for NDTC... At least I'm looking forward to the new album. :)
Oh shit Bernd! You're family and we're all interested in
Superior. Go ahead and talk about your exploits! :)
Cheers,
Rick
Toronto
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Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 16:03:18 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <kurt@fgallery.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Support your local almond!
Message-ID: <32517906.75B6@fgallery.com>
ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> >Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 16:31:18 +0100
> >From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
>
> >The good news: SUPERIOR will play the German tour for Kamelot! YES! :)
>
> heyyy congrats!!
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Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 16:22:04 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <kurt@fgallery.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dt Icons
Message-ID: <32517D6C.6BB1@fgallery.com>
Does anyone remember..or can anyone send me the Dt icons for win95?
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Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 16:00:33 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: skids!
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961001210033.0069bc2c@mail.inlink.com>
>
>I know Skid Row is exactly an innovative band, but what does everyone think of
>Sebastian Bach (nice name...)? I thought his tracks on Working Man were
>pretty good. I think he sings with a lot of conviction and would make a
>helluva frontman for a progressive metal band.
AAAAAAAOUU!!!! i LOVE skid row :) hell, i just watched "Oh say can you
scream" last weekend. Subhuman Race was a phenomenal album too, i'd bet a
lot of jammers, even if you're not a fan of the older material, will like
this. people had talked about how low bach sounded on working man, and he'd
'grown nads' so i was expecting some different bach... but his vocals are no
lower on working man than they are on subhuman race, and he puts a hell of a
lot into it. And i think he's a helluva frontman for a great band already.
Dave and Scotti know where its at on them geetars :)
~Rip
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Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 16:02:12 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: vai's voice
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961001210212.006aad30@mail.inlink.com>
granted, vai has a phenomenal voice.. does anyone else think he reminds
them of George Michael? no joke. its not a bad thing, george michael is a
great vocalist, its just i dont care much for the music backing the vocals,
where in vai's case i love it :)
~Rip
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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:28:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Kevin W. Madden" <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
To: The Pat Daugherty Pro-Oriole Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: My Latest Trip to Best Buy AKA Heaven
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961001172611.302f8332@pop.pipeline.com>
Hey people! I just returned from stuffing myself on ribs
at Applebee's and then shopping at Best Buy. What did I buy?
Well, the first thing I saw was the new Judas Priest tribute
(import version) and on it there are tracks by Fates Warning,
Testament, Helloween, Gamma Ray, Mercyful Fate, and others.
I can't wait to hear this! Unlike the Rush tribute, this had
the full blessing of the band. I also finally broke down and
bought the "Live in Tokyo" video, which I bought realitively
inexpensively for about $15.00. I also picked up a video of
Dark Angel (DT link? Drummer in DA is Gene Hoglan, who played
in Death with James Murphy, who played with James LaBrie on the
Rush tribute. Ha.) Candlemass, and someone else live for $1.97.
For that price you can't lose. I also picked up one of those
really cheap classical double cd sets. This was a Schubert - Death
and the Maiden, etc. Why should you care about all this? I don't
really know.
P.S. Pat. It's good to see that your baseball team has such class.
Robbie Alomar is a punk. Go Indians, starting tomorrow.
Kevin <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
GO REDWINGS 8-0-1 Preseason.
GO PACKERS 4-1 Regular Season.
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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:53:30 +-100
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'The Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: NEW "Most Frequent Poster List"
Message-ID: <01BBAFF0.EBB5E980@Spock.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Hey there !
The NEW "Most Frequent Poster List" (September '96) is available at :
http://www.globalxs.nl/home/b/bredius/
Enjoy :-)
NAME:Mark 'Itchy' Bredius
_______________________________________________________itchy@dreamt.org__
All of us get lost in the darkness _ _____ ___ _ _ _ _
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars (`)(_```_)/``_)(`)_(`)(`)_(`)
All of us do time in the gutter RUSH | | ) ( ( (_ | _ | \_ /
Dreamers turn to look at the cars THE PASS (_) (_) \___)(_) (_) (__/
____________________________________________________bredius@globalxs.nl__
Maintainer of the Official Freaks and Ytsejam "Most Frequent Poster List"
URL:http://www.globalxs.nl/home/b/bredius/
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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:02:59 -0700
From: The Analog Kid <dhplotki@students.wisc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Connecticut Tape Trees
Message-ID: <v03007801ae775f939116@[144.92.209.159]>
Anyone here in Jamsville know what's up with the 12/27 and 12/30 tape trees
from the holiday shows? Haven't seen any posts lately :(
That's all...
Dave Plotkin
A planet of playthings
We dance on the strings
Of powers we cannot perceive
"The stars aren't aligned-
Or the gods are malign"
Blame is better to give than receive
Neil Peart, 1980
Individually we are a ass, but together we are a genius...
Neil Peart, 1996
RUSH * DREAM THEATER * YES * FATES WARNING * LEMUR VOICE * CYNIC * ECHOLYN *
MEDESKI MARTIN & WOOD * PHISH * ENCHANT * PRIMUS * PANTERA * OZRIC
TENTACLES *
G LOVE AND SPECIAL SAUCE * THE POLICE * DAVE BRUBECK * JOHN COLTRANE *
MILES DAVIS * WES MONTGOMERY * BILL FRISELL * WYNTON MARSALIS *
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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 18:02:24 -0500
From: robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: TICKET INFO: Rush - Philly show (Nov. 6)
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.10.1.-14.2.24.2510543059.218856@bbs.icdc.com>
I got this from a friend o' mine (for those non-NMS subscriber Rush-fans
among you)...
--- Someone just called [John] DeBella on 94.1 just as I was tuning in (great timing, eh?!) Anyway: CA: 'When's the date for the Rush show?' JD: November 6th CA: 'When do tix go on sale?' JD: "They do not go on sale this weekend," with the obvious implication that they did. He then babbled on for about 45 seconds about how 'he couldn't tell you this weekend that they went on sale' and 'he couldn't tell you that they went on sale this weekend' and variations thereof.<snip>
Saturday 10am for November 6th at CoreStates Center!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He just made the announcement "officially" He also said (old stuff for us) that it was called "An Evening with Rush"- no opening acts.
<snip>
Official- Saturday 10am. What I time I picked to turn on the radio!
----
Wheee! I'll be there by 6:00 (on an October morning)!
Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap
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