YTSEJAM Digest 1895
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Disappointing
by SaVeur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
2) Savatage in Japan
by tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
3) Joe Stump's forgotten album
by tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
4) eurocon or whatever
by <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
5) beast stuff
by <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
6) Ben's Virtual Music
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
7) Rush tix
by Coop42@aol.com
8)
by
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1893
by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
10) Tori Amos concert - 10-1-96 Baltimore
by Mike Backof <mbacko1@umbc.edu>
11) For Anthony Sciamanna
by BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
12) Producer4
by "Kevin Donnelly" <KDonnelly@vines.ColoState.EDU>
13) Oops!!
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
14) Re: visual music #2
by Mason Pokladnik <mason@dunn-463.dorms.tamu.edu>
15) dt video
by matt rosin <msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu>
16) Other music styles/bands bashing.
by LOSIER <9482554@vieuxsaturne.cvm.qc.ca>
17) Con attendees (or lack thereof)
by psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
18) Stuff about Under A Cyber Moon, Please read...
by "Rudy van IJzendoorn" <rudy.van.ijzendoorn@tip.nl>
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 03:57:50 -0400
From: SaVeur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Disappointing
Message-ID: <199610020757.DAA09040@cais.cais.com>
At 12:27 AM 10/2/96 -0700, Damon M. Fibraio wrote:
>You know, I am reading more and more and hearing more and more about who
>can't make it to the con. This is disturbing. Next thing you know, I will=
be
[...snip...]
>country, then why can't the rest of you? This of course assumes that Mike
damon damon damon...some of us already had plans b4 the dates for the Con
were set...hehehhehehHEHEHEHEHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA! :)
cuse me for that outburst.
URL:http://www.cais.net/jjens/
ObRush: my band has decided to do a Rush medley. suggestions for parts/songs
to add to it? email *ME, NOT THE JAM* <saveur@cais.com>
Tool =C6nima was released yesterday.=20
buy it.
j . c h r i s t i a n j j e n s @ g m u . e d u
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s h t t p : / / w w w . c a i s . n e t / j j e n s /
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 96 12:32:16 +0900
From: tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Savatage in Japan
Message-ID: <9610020332.AA29266@mail.doshisha.ac.jp>
Hi! I'm Keiji from Japan.
Someone told about Sava's Japan Live thing. So here's their previous live
shows in Japan.
1992-03-12 Club Citta,Kawasaki
03-14 Budohkan,Tokyo (Opening act for Yngwie Malmsteen)
The Budohkan show was video-recorded and aired on TVK 'Sony Music TV'
1994-11-08 W'ohol,Osaka
11-10 Bottomline,Nagoya
11-11 Club Citta,Kawasaki
11-12 Club Citta,Kawasaki
The Citta shows were recorded (for CD and video). It's titled 'Japan Live
'94' available from MVP/Zero.corp.
1996-06-13 Koumei a.m.Hall,Osaka
06-14 Shibuya On Air West,Tokyo
06-15 Club Citta,Kawasaki
The On Air West show was officially recorded by Zero Corp. and we could
hear on radio and their tel service during July.
Well,the sound quality of 'Japan live '94' is nice,but I think a bit
studio-made-live album,'cuz, a lot of sound dub. You can feel they were
playing at arena,though they played at club (capacity,1300+). But their
performance is incredible. The highlight of this live album/video is the
song "Gutter Bullet". Jon Oliva just played guitar and keyboard so far,and
he finally started singing on "Gutter Bullet" (duo with Zach). It's
incredible. This CD doesn't contain full size live set,so video (full set)
is prfered choice,I think.
How about visiting their Japanese label homepage?
MVP/Zero Corp. http://www.pineapple.co.jp/MVP/MVP.html
You can get sound files and visit some on-line shops
About bootleg...
I bought Audience recorded Shibuya show (2CDs). It's nice.Worth paying
4700 yen(43 Us dollars).
Sound quality is nice. If you like Sava',then you should buy this boot.
Yeah,I think MVP/Zero will not release what they recorded (Releasing
Live-in-Japan-album every time the band come to Japan will not appeal
commercialy.) So we'll never get official recorded DWD tour,so
audience-recorded boot will be the only way.
Thanks.
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 96 12:32:26 +0900
From: tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Joe Stump's forgotten album
Message-ID: <9610020332.AA29390@mail.doshisha.ac.jp>
Hi!
Speaking of Joe Stump,he(no,actually as the band) released another album. It's
Joe Stump's Reign Of Terror "Light In The Sky"
He organized his band Reign Of Terror and released this album from
Brunette/Alfa on Feb.'96.
here's line-up:
Joe Stump (G)
Brian Sarvera (Vo)
John Risti (B)
Jamie Curci (Ds)
This is 11 tracks heavy metal album. (10 tracks with vocal and 1
instrumental song.) It's very '80s style. IMO,it sounds like Yngwie plays
with Annihilator. I'll recommend this album,if you want to know about Joe
Stump.
Thanks
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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 04:49:45 +2000
From: <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: eurocon or whatever
Message-ID: <199610010207.FAA11191@pepe.online.ee>
>I wish someone would organize a European thang. A EutseCon? I would
>offer to organize one, except I'm crap at organizing. It would be cool
>to have it in Amsterdam ;-)
Fucking A! Only that it shouldn't happen before next summer if you
ask me, for some monetary reasons and due to the fact that
hitchhiking is a damned cold job to do in the wintertime. In the
summer, the journey from Estonia to Paris, thru Copenhagen and
Amsterdam was a minor piss in the snow, but now... Ugh.
Our Dutchmen here... What'd'you think? ;-)
raitz
How could I forget such a revelation
to love without fear and learn without question
how could I regret the meant occasions
I must begin this day again
Cynic, "How Could I"
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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 04:55:15 +2000
From: <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: beast stuff
Message-ID: <199610010205.FAA11174@pepe.online.ee>
>YT>667: Neighbor of the Beast
> Maybe 668 would be more logical :P
666 is a number of the Beast, but did you know that:
$665.95 - Retail price of the Beast
$699.25 - Price of the Beast plus 5% sales tax
$769.95 - Price of the Beast with all accessories and
replacement soul
$656.66 - Walmart price of the Beast
6, uh... what
was that number
again? - Number of the Blonde Beast
00666 - Zip code of the Beast
1-900-666-0666 - Live Beasts! One-on-one pacts! Call Now!
Only $6.66/minute. Over 18 only please.
Route 666 - Highway of the Beast
666 F - Oven temperature for roast Beast
666k - Retirement plan of the Beast
6.66 % - 5 year CD interest rate at First Beast National
Bank, $666 minimum deposit.
i66686 - CPU of the Beast
666i - BMW of the Beast
DSM-666 - Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the Beast
668 - Next-door neighbor of the Beast
* * *
Got you right there. :-)
By the way, I just received a jam from August 6. I wonder where are
those coming from. :-)
raitz
How could I forget such a revelation
to love without fear and learn without question
how could I regret the meant occasions
I must begin this day again
Cynic, "How Could I"
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 96 10:21:12 GMT
From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
Subject: Ben's Virtual Music
Message-ID: <M.100296.122112.73@wxs7-11.worldaccess.nl>
Say, Ben, wasn't that particular 'sound effect' the Kobe earthquake when DT
visited Japan during the "Waking up the World" tour?
-- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Richard Karsmakers cronos@worldaccess.nl | \--------------------------------------------------------------/ C.R.I.M.E. Development; "Twilight World" Magazine; WWW-MMM alt.music.gwar FUQ II maintainer P.O. Box 67, 3500 AB, Utrecht, Netherlands /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk?" | \--------------------------------------------------------------/------------------------------
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:20:19 -0400 From: Coop42@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Rush tix Message-ID: <961002062019_298806817@emout14.mail.aol.com>
Hi there! Do you even have the slightest idea, how frustrating it is for a European to read that all you US-jammers are getting tickets for the Rush shows!? I guess I'll really start suffering when you'll be posting your reviews and say how great it was... ;-) I just had to let that out.
Take Care, Andreas Berger
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Excuse some of my wording and the spelling of names, since I'm translating this from Japanese to English... The original Japanese was also translated from English to japanese, so what you're reading here is what Geddy Lee said, --->translated to Japanese ----> translated to English by me, so please bear with me...
<enough rubbish>
Player> By the way, we've heard that you had some problems with the recently released rush tribute album, "Working Man", but please expand on that...
Lee> It's not as big to have to call it 'trouble.' First, when I heard about the album, I had heard that the label <magna carta> was one that only released Tribute Albums. However, they weren't making it to show respect for the artist, but they were trying to use our -name- to grab money from the fans. That's a betrayal to the fans. It's not that I don't like the idea of a tribute album. Niel just made a tribute to Buddy Rich, <sp?> for example. The focus of the matter is, the motive to make the album. If it were not only for money, and also had to do with paying respect, then I'd be happy to have it made. Just that... we didn't oppose the album THAT seriously. We were too busy making an album of our own. The articles saying something about us being furious, were totally ridiculous.
Player> If you were to make a tribute album to somebody, who would it be?
Lee> Within the realm of rock musicians, it would be Pete Townsend of the Who. He's the ultimate rock songwriter. But almost all the artists that I respect, including Pete, are still in the business; the word "Tribute" sounds like something you make after he died, you know...
They also said something about making a live album, out of some performances in the last tour, etc...
That's it for me... Sorry if the sentences were kinda hard to read, translations don't come too naturally to me...
PM
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 08:43:10 -0500 (EST) From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1893 Message-ID: <v01510103ae77db08d440@[137.238.26.12]>
Hello everyone, it's BABS! This is for Neil. You're going to see a band called Rotting Christ and you wonder about why your marriage is on it's way out? (ONLY TEASING). Have you guys tried to compromise at all? Like you could wear headphones while she watches the tube or you could send her out to the movies with a friend while you sit at home and crank the tunes??????? Just a suggestion....
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 09:44:59 -0700 From: Mike Backof <mbacko1@umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com, sarahann@wam.umd.edu Subject: Tori Amos concert - 10-1-96 Baltimore Message-ID: <32529C0B.4D71@umbc.edu>
Hello Jammers,
I went and saw Tori Amos live for the first time last night at the Lyric Opera House in Baltimore. The former lead singer of School of Fish (I believe that was the band's name, they sang a song called 3 Strange Days) opened for Tori, he played guitar and sang, and was a pretty cool entertainer. Tori came on after a 30 minute break and had a harpsichord and piano facing each other so that she could just turn and switch off, she also got some guitar accompanyment on some tunes. Later in the show they crew replaced the harpsichord with an organ. I can't remember the order of the songs that well but she played:
Beauty Queen / Horses / Blood Roses / Tatula / Caught A Light Sneeze / Cornflake Girl / Precious Things / Me and a Gun / Somewhere Over the Rainbow / Daniel (Elton John) / Hey Anastasia / Sweet Dreams / Little Amsterdam / Twinkle / Leather / London Girl
I believe that includes all of the songs. The best word to describe the concert is "emotional", Tori draws you into her world, where things are painful and her music is her release, and she presents that music to her audience. The silence during Me and a Gun was paralyzing. Great stuff for those of you (and I know there are many) on the jam who like Tori, go see her live if you get a chance, you won't regret it.
On to lighting, some nice projections on an obtuse triangular screen, and below the screen to the right were three light pods that when in use accented the screen since they were also in a triangular pattern. There were light pods that hung from the ceiling and moved about. The projections were usually water or a multicolored light wash. But the lighting accented the music well, Peter Frampton wouldn't have felt at home under this lighting set, and that is a good thing.
Later all,
Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Backof mbacko1@umbc.edu http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1 WWW Pages - Unsigned Bands: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/munsign.html WWW Pages - Inferno Page: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/inferno.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 08:03:15 -0600 From: BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: For Anthony Sciamanna Message-ID: <s2522392.016@IOMEGA.COM>
Sorry to clutter the jam this way. But Anthony Sciammanna if you read this email me. I tried to email you with your new address but it bounces back as need recipient. email:huston@iomega.com.
Thanks
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 96 8:00:56 MDT From: "Kevin Donnelly" <KDonnelly@vines.ColoState.EDU> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Producer4 Message-ID: <vines.0,16+MKbIma@vines.ColoState.EDU>
Jammers;
Do I hear that DT have written plenty of new material for next album but have not started recording due to lack of producer?
Knowing little about the music/recording industry, I somewhat hesitate in making a suggestion BUT, I think that Peter Collins has done some great work with Rush and Queensryche and several others. (In fact, when I first heard "Silent Lucidity" I went out looking for the album and I literally bought Empire based on seeing Peter Collins on credits on back of CD, honest!)
Anyone know anything about this gentleman and the possibilities?
Kevin D.
Playing : SKYCLAD - Prince of the Poverty Line
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 14:38:26 GMT From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Oops!! Message-ID: <32527d5c.2121423@mail.inforamp.net>
Dear Jammers,
Please accept my apologies for accidentally reposting about 90% of Jam 1891. I was in the process of replying when my stupid cat jumped onto my mouse and managed to click send. I wasn't at the machine at the time and wasn't able to stop the send. :) I'm REALLY sorry for what will surely be a massive digest.
Okay, everyone line up for free shots.
Once again, my apologies.
Cheers,
Rick Toronto
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:44:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Mason Pokladnik <mason@dunn-463.dorms.tamu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: visual music #2 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.961002093957.1157A-100000@dunn-463.dorms.tamu.edu>
> This next Visual Music (#2) isn't a melody...it's a sound effect in a DT > song...shouldn't be too hard to recognize. :) > > > brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAA > AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<roomshaking>RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHHGGGGGGRRRRRR > RAAAAAAAAAABBBBBRRRRRRRRAAAAAAA<windowsbreaking>RAAAAAAAAAAAAAARBBBBBGRRRRRR > RRRRRRRRRRRRRRBUUUULLLLLLLLLLRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think that has to be the rising slide guitar riff at the end of Take the Time. I know I still can't turn it up in the car while John and mike are playing together or my speakers start to be anthropomorphized in my mind into the growling dogs they are.
------------------------------------------------------- -Mason Pokladnik mason@schwanda.dorms.tamu.edu- -eia@tamu.edu http://schwanda.dorms.tamu.edu/~mason- - the cost of living hasn't affected it's popularity - -------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:04:14 -0500 From: matt rosin <msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: dt video Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961002082456.1ebfe418@tam2000.tamu.edu>
a video for any dt song?
ACOS, definitely. for obvious reasons.
-matt.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ m a t t r o s i n / imagescape@tamu.edu S U R R E A L I T Y / http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape/ dark ethereal music / SURREALITY II AVAILABLE NOW ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 11:15:00 -0700 From: LOSIER <9482554@vieuxsaturne.cvm.qc.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Other music styles/bands bashing. Message-ID: <3252B124.35F0@cigogne.cvm.qc.ca>
> > > >Alright, let's review this. You feel that the world is a better place to > >live since Kurt Cobain is dead? > > 8< Level-headed wisdom snipped >8 > > > It's even more sorrowful that in > >the end he could only find his peace from a bullet. > > > >Alright, that's enough of my rambling. > > > >-Babs > > Well said, Babs. Thank you for those words. It chills me to think that > there are people out there who take joy in someone's death.
And I think we're all here to talk about our favorite (or one of our favorite) band. Let's not try bashing other styles of music or other bands. Let's discuss Dream Theater, or Dream Theater related music. Let's keep the bashing for the bands who bash DT (LET'S BASH BLIND MELON, KILL BLIND MELON).
Btw, I'm still waiting to hear about the release of the next DT album, by reading here I saw that it's in production. That's a good thing. Can't to hear about Metropolis Part II.
Hmm, do anybody here know why DT seems to be shunning Montreal? They did not came here in a whole long time (Since after the release of Images and Words), I know there was at least 2 or 3 tours after that... I was at the last show and we received them well...I don't know why they didn't came back!
And Oh, I'm a huge rush fan! (Rushfan before DTfan). Emmanuel Losier 9482554@cvm.qc.ca http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/alley/2714
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 11:10:51 -0400 From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Con attendees (or lack thereof) Message-ID: <199610021515.LAA28489@uhura.ici.net>
I just finished reading Damon's post on people NOT going to the con, and I have to agree with him. I'm *very* disappointed that many of the people that I wa looking forward to meeting there are no longer going to go (or weren't going in the first place, as the case may be).
Look, folks - this is a big deal. :)
Those of you who were talking with me on IRC the other night know that my GF and I are having a baby real soon now. Those of you that *didn't* know, *do* know now. :) Now, that being the case, I obviously don't have a lot of diposable income to fritter away on non-essential activities....but I absolutely AM GOING to the Ytsecon. (The way I figure it, I'm not going on any *other* trips for about the next five years now, better get while the getting's good. :))
Now D-Man had a good excuse. If that's the only day the test is offered, you gotta do it. All I can say, though, is that I'm gonna be in NYC Friday morning until Sunday afternoon and if you don't at least put in an appearance, there'll be hell to pay. :)
And to anyone who's not coming because they think money is an issue.....
T H I N K A G A I N ! ! ! ! :)
Live a little, folks. I'm gonna be there. It's gonna be, like, kewl.
__<psull@ici.net>__http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html___
This space for rent...No pithy quotes need apply ____________________________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:58:58 +0100 From: "Rudy van IJzendoorn" <rudy.van.ijzendoorn@tip.nl> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Stuff about Under A Cyber Moon, Please read... Message-ID: <m0v8Tol-000DlAC@parijs.tip.nl>
Fellow Dream Theater fans,
Lately all I seem to do, when I write to the mailing list, is talk about my DT site on the net, but I have to talk about it at least one more time. Sorry if I bore you with this shit, but I hope some people actually care.
1. My site is back!!! Halfway last month my provider decided to shut down my homepage, because of the reason that I generated too much datatraffic. (which I still think is absurd) Therefore I am moving my page shortly to a new location, details follow. Right now the page can still be visited at: http://www1.tip.nl/users/t198275
2. Because of the fact that I mirror the DT Faq (by D-Man) and the song- book (by Michael Kizer), I will still keep some files here in Holland (for geographical reasons)
3. The YtseNet pages (IRC) are nearing completeness, only thing is ---> please <--- send me a short bio and a picture to be included in it. Also what is vital to put in your bio: your Nickname! I hope to see some more bios and pics soon.
4. Also if any of you have some more DT related computerprograms, art etc etc. then please notify me about it, so I can put it on my site...
Well then, that about wraps it up, flame me personally about this post if you hated it (SPAM! - hehehe).....
Later -=U-dAZ=- ----------------------------------------------------------- 'I was blinded by a paradise' 'Utopia high in the sky' 'A dream that only drowned me' 'Deep in sorrow, wondering why' (Dream Theater) ----------------------------------------------------------- Under A Cyber Moon Website http://www1.tip.nl/users/t198275 ----------------------------------------------------------- rudy.van.ijzendoorn@tip.nl judas@worldaccess.nl judas@dreamt.org -----------------------------------------------------------
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