YTSEJAM Digest 1897
Today's Topics:
1) satch!!
by "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" <mmahmed@mtu.edu>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1887
by SandS@challserv.challenger.net (Sally Murphy)
3) Re: Lighten up, baby...
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
4) music video's
by fba25110@centum.utulsa.edu (lucky the clown)
5) G3 (NDTC)
by al587725@campus.cegs.itesm.mx (Marcelo Martinelli)
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1896
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1895
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
8) Re: Post-Con activities?
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1896
by shields@onr.com (Jim Shields)
10) Re: videos
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
11) Best Endings for DT Songs
by "Joe Kruger" <jkruger@ee.net>
12) Re: Savatage: Live in Japan video
by Bill.POLYMENAKOS@sb.com
13) G3 in Philly
by Bill.POLYMENAKOS@sb.com
14) I'm back
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
15) Re: videos
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
16) Re: G3 in Philly
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
17) Re: music video's
by Carlos Alfaro <kurt@fgallery.com>
18) Re: Best Endings for DT Songs
by Carlos Alfaro <kurt@fgallery.com>
19) Re: videos
by Carlos Alfaro <kurt@fgallery.com>
20) Re: Lighten up, baby...
by Carlos Alfaro <kurt@fgallery.com>
21) Re: videos
by Carlos Alfaro <kurt@fgallery.com>
22) TFS Delivery Failure: YTSEJAM digest 1896
by admin@cinet.no
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:25:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" <mmahmed@mtu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: satch!!
Message-ID: <199610022126.RAA01113@garlic.csl.mtu.edu>
hi all,
sorry for the non DT content ....but I gotta ask this ...
does anybody remember that satch said he was going to do a PBS program for
Christmas?? do you know when's it going to or what not???
on DT context ...any body know if the intro of the solo to KH is from
any classical thing. if it is who's the composer and what's if called.
by the way any one know if the RACER-X - Second Heat is out of print or not?
I was listning to the first one today (Street Letheal) and realized how
scary Paul Gilbert used to be. < o.k. they call it masterbating the strings now
but few has the balls to play their ass of these days)
later
Minhaz
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:45:45 -0500
From: SandS@challserv.challenger.net (Sally Murphy)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1887
Message-ID: <19961002214544913.AAA220@SandS>
>I wouldn't mind
>driving out to, say, a ytsecon on a Mississippi River steamboat. In
>fact, I motion that the next ytscon be on a steamboat, lasting two or
>three days as we float down the river...
>
>Glenn
Yes! That would rock! Considering I live in Baton Rouge, LA, and NY is
super far away from me! BTW, any jammers in this area? Anyone going to the
RUSH show in N.O. in December? Send me a personal e-mail, please! Thanx.
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* Shane Hunziker 12625 Coursey Blvd., #1046 *
* SandS@mail.challenger.net Baton Rouge, LA 70816 *
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* "O come let us adore him, abuse him, then ignore him. No matter *
* what, don't let him be. Let's feed upon his misery. Now it's *
* time for them to deal with me." - Dream Theater, "A Change of Seasons"*
*************************************************************************
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:53:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Lighten up, baby...
Message-ID: <199610022153.RAA13729@beasley.cris.com>
>From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
>Subject: Lighten up, baby...
>
>The movie Crossroads was on the tube this past weekend. For those who
>may not have seen it yet, I COMMAND THEE TO RENT IT! If for nothing
>else, to see how much Steve Vai needs to learn about guitar. Ralph
>Machio can shred scales around him. If you don't think Ralph is better
>than Steve, you have no concept of what music is about and I'll quite
>simply have to mow your ass down with a cheese grater.
You're kidding, right? If I ain't mistaken, all the guitar parts in that
film were done by Stevie and Ry Cooder. I believe it was Mr. Cooder playing
Machio's parts. Imagine, the Karate Kid outplaying Vai? Heh.
-Rick Audet
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:14:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: fba25110@centum.utulsa.edu (lucky the clown)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: music video's
Message-ID: <199610022214.PAA14805@pawn.ax.com>
I've always thought that "the mirror" would be an excellent video just
because of the movement, narrative and atmosphere that song has. Just like
the song "Sober" by tool was just great. And if I made a video I would find
a way to keep the actual members out of it, not because they're ugly or
something just because it would make you focus on the song and the themes
more. I tend to think that you lose most people in the first few seconds of
a song, if you can get them to forestall their judgement for a while you can
pull them in. If the first image somebody sees is jp and mike p. its "metal
band" *click*
my vision:
intro (the chu-chu-chu part) b/w stills of people
drums start: man walking down the street in a paranoid state eyes darting
and looking around...
faster tempo:(half time)the scene get oppresive and dark
faster tempo:(double time) he breaks into a run down a NY street brushing
people aside as he runs.
the wah and keyboard parts start: his vision begins to blur and he's getting
a little wobbly as he starts up a stairwell... and slams the door just as
the drums and guitar go... chu-chu-chu....
in front of a mirror: "temptation....etc."
the rest of the video would try to explain the reason for the man's
confusion and anger; his own foolish mistakes and the tragedy that has
brought to his life and the realization that he needs to live for himself
and the people he loves.
of course I would direct and mike p. could help with the snacks or something
and maybe I would let them play some bit parts....hmmmm?
dt's management can reach me at:
bruce-forst@utulsa.edu
----b-r-u-c-e-f-o-r-s-t--------------------------------------
The tea was begging to be steeped
And the shower was hissing for some attention
But the only thing that was on my mind
Was lunch in the sun
----------------------------------B.W. Kull-------------------
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:21:19 -0500
From: al587725@campus.cegs.itesm.mx (Marcelo Martinelli)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: G3 (NDTC)
Message-ID: <9610022221.AA18585@campus.cegs.itesm.mx>
Hi evreyone , I just wanted to ask if anybody knows the prices for
the G3 concert in San Antonio , TX on October 18 . I'm planning to attend
but since I'm coming from Mexico , I need to order the tickets by phone
(which is a drag because it is a long distance call and there you are
listening to Mozart for 10 minutes...) Anyways I need to organize myself and
figure a way out to receive my tickets. I would greatly appreciate a private
response.
By the way has anybody seen the dream-theater server ? I was surfing
some time ago and I encountered a www.dreamtheater.com . It is a page
of designers of something I don't remember but it is bizarre. I hope
someone can help me with the G3 info. Thanx!
-Marcelo Martinelli-
-Monterrey , Mexico-
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/
-It dawned on me one day that I should not be making sandwiches for a living-
---John Petrucci---
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/
---"You say you want everyone happy
--- Well , were not laughing "
-Scarred
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:21:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1896
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.961002171834.10515A-100000@enteract.com>
Ralph Maccio is GOD! He taught Eddie Van Halen everything he knows. DID
TOO! Let thine arses not be mow-ed by yon graters of cheese.
Rip, the Silent Man idea.... genius. I love it!
Let's start a Ytsemail campaign to tell DT to get with it and get a
producer! We're like a pack of hungry dogs here, just waiting to tear
into some new threads!
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Christopher Ptacek at Enteract, L.L.C.
Technical Support Engineer
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T h o u g l e e k i n g o n i o n e y e d d e a t h t o k e n
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:28:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Jack Daniels <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1895
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961002182601.22043B-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> I attended a Dream Theater concert in Philadelphia during the Images and
> Words tour, it was at the TLA on South Street. I now remember James
> Labrie stating that the turn out for the show was very small (there was
> about a hundred people there) Could this be the reason why Dream Theater
> does not play in Philadelphia anymore?? Also I would love to see a James
> Labrie version of When Dream and Day Unite!! How does that sound people!!!!
1: There is a version of James doing WDADU. E-mail Mike Bahr, or contact
me at syrinx@astro and i'll set you up.
2: When speaking to Mike about this particular subject (at the infamous
Ethyl Mertz gig where i accidentaly p'ed Derek off - sorry again
derek!@), he stated that they _WILL_ hit philly again. remember that
they did play birch hill (only a touch over an hour away) last december.
if they play philly, they'll either play the trocadero or the electric
factory.
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Michael B. Ostrich - musical advisor/consultant
email: syrinx@dreamt.org
syrinx@wicked.stigmata.org
syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
"..your offer is tempting, but it's not what it seems. you take
advantage of everybody else's dreams. you create the perfect picture by
dressing up the scene, trust our hopes and lives to your death machines.
your point is not well taken because that's not what it means. i will
refuse!"
- pailhead.
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:29:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
Subject: Re: Post-Con activities?
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961002182843.22043D-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> Hey, I haven't heard anything about what's going on after the Con! Come
> on! I'm going to be in town, and I want to hang out n stuff with you
> crazy peeplez! Does anyone have any ideas of what they're doing
> afterwards?
i know i gotta go back to philly. bob mould is playing an accoustic show
that night, and my ass (along with the rest of me) is there.
> Also... I posted road directions to the con a couple of weeks ago. If
> you missed them, deleted them, whatever, let me know and I'll repost them.
i have them also, so if anyone needs them, just lemme know.
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Michael B. Ostrich - musical advisor/consultant
email: syrinx@dreamt.org
syrinx@wicked.stigmata.org
syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
"..your offer is tempting, but it's not what it seems. you take
advantage of everybody else's dreams. you create the perfect picture by
dressing up the scene, trust our hopes and lives to your death machines.
your point is not well taken because that's not what it means. i will
refuse!"
- pailhead.
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:36:38 -0600
From: shields@onr.com (Jim Shields)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1896
Message-ID: <v01530500ae78aa4b51b8@[206.104.9.3]>
> If for nothing
>else, to see how much Steve Vai needs to learn about guitar. Ralph
>Machio can shred scales around him. If you don't think Ralph is better
>than Steve, you have no concept of what music is about and I'll quite
>simply have to mow your ass down with a cheese grater.
The only problem is, i though Arlen Roth played most of the guitar playing
for that scene. Another thing, Ralph was SUPPOSED to sound better (so the
good guy would win, etc), so Vai isn't going to play at his best or his
most intelligent. Granted, I haven't seen the movie in years, but remember
those little cinematic factors which one must consider. ;-D
Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a. . . oh. . . I'll get right on it then.
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:35:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
Subject: Re: videos
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961002183445.22043H-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> hmm... make a video for any song? how about "the silent man"... and just
> have myung sit in front of the camera :)
accoring to mr. portnoy, there _IS_ a video for the silent man.
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Michael B. Ostrich - musical advisor/consultant
email: syrinx@dreamt.org
syrinx@wicked.stigmata.org
syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
"..your offer is tempting, but it's not what it seems. you take
advantage of everybody else's dreams. you create the perfect picture by
dressing up the scene, trust our hopes and lives to your death machines.
your point is not well taken because that's not what it means. i will
refuse!"
- pailhead.
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:26:51 +0000
From: "Joe Kruger" <jkruger@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Best Endings for DT Songs
Message-ID: <199610022237.SAA29054@ee.net>
My vote: #1) A Vision
#2) Innocence Faded
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Date: 02 Oct 96 18:28:41 -0400
From: Bill.POLYMENAKOS@sb.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Savatage: Live in Japan video
Message-ID: <1003014759-Re:.Savatage:..Live.in.Japan.video*.@MHS>
> Anyone out there own a copy of the Savatage: Live in Japan
> videotape from '94? The videotape, not the CD... it also helps if
> it's a format compatible with U.S. VCR's. If you've got one and
> are interested in getting rid of it, or have one and would be
> willing to dub it for me, please respond... this thing is
> practically impossible to find anywhere.
You should try Terrible Ted's Import Music. He has "Savatage: Live in
Japan 1994" listed in his catalog for _65.99. I've dealt with
Terrible Ted's before so I can vouch for his legitimacy. In fact, he
was able to get me some discs I've never been able to get before --
even though CD Connection, CD Europe, etc. Check him out at
http://members.aol.com/terteds/terrible_teds.htm.
Bill
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Date: 02 Oct 96 18:32:42 -0400
From: Bill.POLYMENAKOS@sb.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: G3 in Philly
Message-ID: <1003015200-G3.in.Philly*.@MHS>
To anyone wondering about tickets for G3 in the Philly area (Valley
Forge Music Fair to be exact) THEY ARE ON SALE! They went on sale
last Friday. I just got three today and I was already in row 15.
There are only 21 rows in the place, so you better hurry up. You can
reach the box office at 610-644-5000.
This might be your last chance to check out the VF Music Fair before
they tear it down and put up a Giant supermarket...
Bill
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:52:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I'm back
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.93.961002154326.16517B-100000@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu>
Finally back on the jam from vacation. Thanks to Neil for
re-doing the fan club. The autographed picture is great!!
I managed to pick up the RUSH tribute which is very good! It
may have been mentioned already, but who has Deen Castrovono
played for? (a studio drummer I beleive?)
Although I'm not a big Rush fan, I shelled out forty plus bucks
to see them at the L.A. Forum in late November.(My friend is
dragging me) Looks like I won't be getting the new MAIDEN album
now. It has a bad ass cover!! How do people like the new song
'Virus'?
I'm expecting these albums in the mail:
STRATOVARIUS- 4th Dimension
GAMMA RAY- Land of the Free
CONCEPTION- Parallel Minds
ATTACK- The Secret Place
MERCURY RISING- ??I forget
LABRYINTHS- No Limits
Can't wait till they get here!!! Fat music fest!!
MAIDEN and HELLOWEEN were touring in Europe. ARHHHH!!!!!!
The U.S. sucks!!
Later on,
Conrad Chi
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 17:51:35 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>, Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: videos
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961002225135.0069e398@mail.inlink.com>
>> hmm... make a video for any song? how about "the silent man"... and just
>> have myung sit in front of the camera :)
>
>accoring to mr. portnoy, there _IS_ a video for the silent man.
>
just a quick one on this... yep, there is. it was never showed in america
and i think a few times in europe but thats about it :) oh well <sigh>
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:08:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Bill.POLYMENAKOS@sb.com
Subject: Re: G3 in Philly
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961002190800.7831B-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> To anyone wondering about tickets for G3 in the Philly area (Valley
> Forge Music Fair to be exact) THEY ARE ON SALE! They went on sale
> last Friday. I just got three today and I was already in row 15.
> There are only 21 rows in the place, so you better hurry up. You can
> reach the box office at 610-644-5000.
>
> This might be your last chance to check out the VF Music Fair before
> they tear it down and put up a Giant supermarket...
How much?
-----------------------------------------------
Michael B. Ostrich - musical advisor/consultant
email: syrinx@dreamt.org
syrinx@wicked.stigmata.org
syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
"..your offer is tempting, but it's not what it seems. you take
advantage of everybody else's dreams. you create the perfect picture by
dressing up the scene, trust our hopes and lives to your death machines.
your point is not well taken because that's not what it means. i will
refuse!"
- pailhead.
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 19:20:01 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <kurt@fgallery.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: music video's
Message-ID: <3252F8A1.2F1E@fgallery.com>
ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
>
>
>
> my vision:
>
> intro (the chu-chu-chu part) b/w stills of people
> drums start: man walking down the street in a paranoid state eyes darting
> and looking around...
> faster tempo:(half time)the scene get oppresive and dark
> faster tempo:(double time) he breaks into a run down a NY street brushing
> people aside as he runs.
> the wah and keyboard parts start: his vision begins to blur and he's getting
> a little wobbly as he starts up a stairwell... and slams the door just as
> the drums and guitar go... chu-chu-chu....
>
> in front of a mirror: "temptation....etc."
>
> i was actually picturing this in my mind as i read it.. and i think it would work really well.. that song has that paranoid kinda feel to it.. cool idea
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 19:21:42 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <kurt@fgallery.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Best Endings for DT Songs
Message-ID: <3252F906.4EF7@fgallery.com>
ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
>
> My vote: #1) A Vision
> #2) Innocence Faded
whats "a vision" never heard of that dt song.. please email me or
something..
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 19:22:50 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <kurt@fgallery.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: videos
Message-ID: <3252F94A.6E9@fgallery.com>
ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
>
> >> hmm... make a video for any song? how about "the silent man"... and just
> >> have myung sit in front of the camera :)
> >
> >accoring to mr. portnoy, there _IS_ a video for the silent man.
> >
>
> just a quick one on this... yep, there is. it was never showed in america
> and i think a few times in europe but thats about it :) oh well <sigh>
>
> ~Rip
yeah ,,thats what i thought.. i think if im not mistaken theres also a
vid for ciaw???
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 19:17:43 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <kurt@fgallery.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Lighten up, baby...
Message-ID: <3252F817.5223@fgallery.com>
ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
>
> >From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
> >Subject: Lighten up, baby...
> >
> You're kidding, right? If I ain't mistaken, all the guitar parts in that
> film were done by Stevie and Ry Cooder. I believe it was Mr. Cooder playing
> Machio's parts. Imagine, the Karate Kid outplaying Vai? Heh.
>
> -Rick Audet
of course he was kidding..i think! :)
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 19:16:36 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <kurt@fgallery.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: videos
Message-ID: <3252F7D4.7B46@fgallery.com>
ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
>
> hmm... make a video for any song? how about "the silent man"... and just
> have myung sit in front of the camera :)
>
> ~Rip
i know this is a joke..but isnt there a video for silent man already?
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