YTSEJAM Digest 1898
Today's Topics:
1) euro con..
by Tim Spear <Veilmaya@dircon.co.uk>
2) Boston jammers and Rush tickets.
by "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
3) New and exciting thread!
by vanzin@infinity.com.br
4) LiT
by vanzin@infinity.com.br
5) beast stuff
by vanzin@infinity.com.br
6) TFS Delivery Failure: YTSEJAM digest 1897
by admin@cinet.no
7) a long way to go...
by Tim Spear <Veilmaya@dircon.co.uk>
8) post con drinking
by Tim Spear <Veilmaya@dircon.co.uk>
9) Dream Theater FAQ
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
10) Re: Lighten up, baby...
by "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
11) Galactic Cowboys Mailing List (NDTC)
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
12) glorious progressive/melodic metal.........
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
13) more hype for the stl con :)
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
14) RE: YTSEJAM digest 1896
by "Joey Axe Man" <IBANEZ_MAN@msn.com>
15) GIANT
by robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
16) Status on wave files I'm sending to those who requested(NO DTC)
by "Dusty Vestal" <vestal@access.usa.net>
17) www.dreamtheater.com
by Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 96 00:41:42 +0000
From: Tim Spear <Veilmaya@dircon.co.uk>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: euro con..
Message-ID: <199610022343.AA18015@felix.dircon.co.uk>
>I want to go to the YtseCon. It's weird, though . . . when I had lots
>of free time, I couldn't afford to go. Now I have enough money, I have
>no time. Jobs suck.
yup.. well i had to beg to get the time off to go to new york!
>I wish someone would organize a European thang. A EutseCon? I would offer
>to organize one, except I'm crap at organizing. It would be cool to have
>it in Amsterdam ;-)
i wanted to organize a britcon, but not alot of people seemes
interested..(theres no chance of DT showing at it anyhow!)
a few people have mentioned amsterdam, would be cool in my book.. perhaps
u-daz could organize it!
Tim Spear
-- Veilmaya@dircon.co.uk -- http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~veilmaya/ --
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:00:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
To: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu, ytsejam@ax.com, jefffalk@bu.edu
Subject: Boston jammers and Rush tickets.
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961002195540.12481B-100000@bu-ast.bu.edu>
Any Boston jammers out there know where Rush is playing and how
much the tickets are yet? I just got off of the phone with the
ticketmaster lady and had no luck on a price or a location. I THOUGHT it
was the Fleet center, but perhaps I'm mistaken. All I know is when: Nov 9th.
-jeremy
ObDT: hmm. Ever had one of those days when you have been jonesing for a
certain DT song, and of course, its at home, 20 minutes away? I'm in one
of those Bombay Vindaloo moods, and it is at home... *sigh* There, DT
content.
+==========================================================================+
# _ ,/| #grad student, Boston U.# jhallum@bu.edu #
# '\`o O' # Boston, MA 02134 # Seen on the bumper of a Shadow #
# =(_^_)= # Astronomy # Battlecrab: #
# |U| # <*> <*> <*> # Oh, I'm sorry, was that YOUR world? #
# # Jeremy Hallum # Morden '96: He knows what YOU want! #
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:03:44 +0300
From: vanzin@infinity.com.br
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New and exciting thread!
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.10.2.-11.3.44.3163793292.118724@infinity.com.br>
Hey Mike!
YT>From: Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
YT>Subject: New and exciting thread!
YT> If you could make a music video for any Dream Theater song, which
YT>one would it be, and how would you do it?
YT> Personally, I would love to see a Metropolis video (who wouldn't?)
YT>It could be directed by Jonathan Landis and be a short mini movie. They
YT>could use computer graphics mixed with live actors, acting out the story of
YT>the song. When "death the first dance eternal" is released, they could
YT>maybe have a big bomb drop and a bunch of people would die. Then, with
YT>deceit, I don't know, people fighting and lying to each other or something.
(the rest you may already have read, so I erased)
Man, and I thought I was crazy. :) This is one of the craziest
thing's I've read in my life :)
YT>is about a dude with AIDS, right? If they made this video, it would
YT>probably win all the grammies in the house.
Do you really care about grammies? I don't. :P
YT> If they want to win an MTV music award, do a video for Erotomania.
YT>Who gives a shit what the video is like, but hey, with a title like that,
YT>it's destined for success!
Yeah, but, as you know, it's instrumental... The video had to be
very cool to overcome that "problem" for most eMpTV watchers. :)
An ACoS video would kick ass. There are plenty of ways to a movie
to fit in those lyrics. :)
[]'s
Marcelo Vanzin
Sao Paulo - Brazil
vanzin@geocities.com vanzin@infinity.com.br
vanzin@dreamt.org
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/index.html
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:03:48 +0300
From: vanzin@infinity.com.br
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LiT
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.10.2.-11.3.48.3163793292.118725@infinity.com.br>
Hey Jammerz!
Has Live in Tokyo been released in Laser Disc too? It's cause I
don't have a stereo VCR, so I always buy LD because the sound is much
better, and I want to buy LiT.
[]'s
Marcelo Vanzin
Sao Paulo - Brazil
vanzin@geocities.com vanzin@infinity.com.br
vanzin@dreamt.org
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/index.html
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:03:56 +0300
From: vanzin@infinity.com.br
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: beast stuff
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.10.2.-11.3.56.3163793292.118728@infinity.com.br>
Hey raitz!
YT>From: <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
YT>Subject: beast stuff
YT>Route 666 - Highway of the Beast
No that's another band's stuff.. it's, like, the "Highway to Hell"
or something. :)
[]'s
Marcelo Vanzin
Sao Paulo - Brazil
vanzin@geocities.com vanzin@infinity.com.br
vanzin@dreamt.org
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/index.html
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 2:05:22 +0100
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 96 00:55:13 +0000
From: Tim Spear <Veilmaya@dircon.co.uk>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: a long way to go...
Message-ID: <199610022356.AA18577@felix.dircon.co.uk>
>the next month or two, go ahead and go. Mike Bahr is coming from Texas
>and bringing rare DT CDs (and an entourage of police escorts, Mike? ;),
>Charone is coming from California, and this trip is costing her a good
>$6-800. That's a hell of a sacrifice for someone living the 'poor
>student life'
errr... yeah i might just make it...
well its only a 450 buck 7 hour flight from london...
:-))
Tim Spear
-- Veilmaya@dircon.co.uk -- http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~veilmaya/ --
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 96 00:55:16 +0000
From: Tim Spear <Veilmaya@dircon.co.uk>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: post con drinking
Message-ID: <199610022356.AA18575@felix.dircon.co.uk>
>ey, I haven't heard anything about what's going on after the Con! Come
>on! I'm going to be in town, and I want to hang out n stuff with you
>crazy peeplez! Does anyone have any ideas of what they're doing
>afterwards?
getting drunk and trying to survive in NY! (im a foreigner -these things
are scary!)
>
>Also... I posted road directions to the con a couple of weeks ago. If
>you missed them, deleted them, whatever, let me know and I'll repost them.
i really need bus directions, or a lift... I can get to port authority
easily.. if some kind jammer could either:
1) give us a ride from there or
2) let me know where to get the bus to...
it would be appreciated!
but chris, no fear... itll be a blast !
Tim Spear
-- Veilmaya@dircon.co.uk -- http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~veilmaya/ --
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:14:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Dream Theater FAQ
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9610022028.B19604-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
Hey, folks. I've been changing the FAQ little by little over the past
while. If you'd like to check it out and let me know if anything should
be changed or added or whatever, feel free!!
A couple of our fellow jammers have been very generous and are hosting
mirror sites of the FAQ. So far, there is the original site in the
Northeast (VT), and mirrors in the Northwest (OR), Southeast (FL), and
Europe (Holland). HTML and plaintext versions are available. If you'd
like to host a mirror site of the FAQ, let me know! I'd appreciate it
greatly.
The version number is still 4.41, although I should probably update it
to 4.5 or something. Version 5 will come out when DT's fifth album
comes out. :)
I think that's it for now. Again, recommendations and mirror hosts are
more than welcome!
-Chris
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:57:47 +0000
From: "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Lighten up, baby...
Message-ID: <199610030107.TAA24780@cyberhighway.net>
> > You're kidding, right? If I ain't mistaken, all the guitar parts in that
> > film were done by Stevie and Ry Cooder. I believe it was Mr. Cooder playing
> > Machio's parts. Imagine, the Karate Kid outplaying Vai? Heh.
You know what the sick thing is? I was sittin' on the toilet a day
or so ago pondering that exact same thing after listening to Vai's
new album. (The things I think of while defacating!)
>Can anyone tell me more about this "Yanni" I've seen mentioned on the Jam? I'm
>pretty open minded when it comes to music so you can e-mail me priv. and give
>me some pointers on him?/her? (Doh!) /Them?!
First, Yanni is male.
OK, Yanni is a new age composer. Most of his music is piano driven
symphonic-type stuff with a teeny bit of pop sound. His music is
completely original as far as I'm concerned. He also used to play in
and produce a band called Chameleon in the early 80's, although I've
never listened to them. If you'd like to check him out to see how
much he rocks, rent his Live at the Acropolis video. His band can
play almost as good (if not in some cases better) than DT. (didn't
mean to sin there) If anything, check out the bass player in "The
Rain Must Fall." Talk about ripping Geddy Lee a new asshole! All of
his music is insrumental, BTW (except for a few cases when some
chicks come out and harmonize along with it and make it rock harder)
Anyway, I'm a completely devoted Yanni fan-atic and hope to meet him
in rl so I can shred some keys with him.
>hmm... make a video for any song? how about "the silent man"... and just
>have myung sit in front of the camera :)
Yeah! An then they can have people rub their feet on his face and
whisper in his ear and lick him and wrap rope around him and take
pictures of him and make water drip on his head and... I think that
was done already...
NP: Asia: Arena
IbnzRG570 a.k.a. Mr. Chuckalupugus
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
"Wouldn't you like to be a Warhead, too?"
--Extreme -- III Sides to Every Story
"Let's get us an 8-ball, it'll last us all weekend!"
--Dennis Leary -- No Cure For Cancer
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:12:56 -0400
From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Galactic Cowboys Mailing List (NDTC)
Message-ID: <v01520d01ae787b6c06f9@[207.90.116.51]>
There is a Galactic Cowboys Mailing List for all interested. This will be
the last time that I will post this announcement here for a while. I just
wanted to catch any straggler coming back to school. To subscribe *and*
post, use the following email address:
Issue #9 will be out sometime this weekend (tentatively). Back issues are
available on my page in the GCML section.
Later,
Dan
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Dan Temmesfeld - dantemm@erinet.com / s1133627@cedarville.edu
"Home of the Galactic Cowboys & Precious Death Pages"
http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm
http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/pd/pdeath.htm
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Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 21:10:42 -0400
From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
To: uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: glorious progressive/melodic metal.........
Message-ID: <31D9C892.3075@earthlink.net>
> I'm expecting these albums in the mail:
> STRATOVARIUS- 4th Dimension
> GAMMA RAY- Land of the Free
> CONCEPTION- Parallel Minds
> ATTACK- The Secret Place
> MERCURY RISING- ??I forget
> LABRYINTHS- No Limits
> Can't wait till they get here!!! Fat music fest!!
Hi there, you are in for a TREAT my friend.....they ALL rule. now I
know how hard it is to like EVERY disc when you receive a whole bunch
but you've hit the jackpot with these!! First off...
STRATOVARIUS: great guitar (Timo Tolkki is VERY similar to Yngwie but
without the attitude)/keys combos, awesome arrangements, soaring
melodies! (Watch out for the TOTAL Quensryche ripoff though...I'll let
you find it for yourself..its scary)
GAMMA RAY: speed, glorious melody..nuff said! one of the BEST of the
year..incidentally this is one of the rare discs I have that I have
almost lost my voice to because I was singing in the car..took me a
while to commit 100% to it (like "Streets" from the 'Tage) but when I
did I couldn't believe the emotion! "Here in dreamland we will not
obey the bastards.........." I get goosebumps just thinking about this
album!
CONCEPTION: Another fantastic album from them...great guitar work with
intense rythms..2 or 3 clunkers but the rest are a joy! Wonder what
their new one is like?
ATTACK: Great melodic arrangements from these virtually unknown German
metal masters. Well, basically its just Ricky Van Helden..but "The
Secret Place" is lots more progressive than previous efforts (of which
all are great!!)...awesome album!
MERCURY RISING: I just got their disc last week and like it A LOT!!!
"Minute Man" reminds me of classic HELSTAR (not to mention AWESOME
lyrics for that song..I feel like I could crush planets in the palms of
my hands when I hear that song!!!) really dark guitar work..love this
disc more and more every minute!
LABYRINTH: Also got this disc last week and like a lot. Only heard it 3
or 4 times but it ALWAYS kept my interest...definitely talented
musicians...I want more from them!!!
***Also, you must get ELDRITCH!!!! Buy ELDRITCH, ELDRITCH, ELDRITCH,
ELDRITCH..they are otherworldly!!!!! Warp factor 10 guitar/keyboard
solos!!!!!*******************
> MAIDEN and HELLOWEEN were touring in Europe. ARHHHH!!!!!!
> The U.S. sucks!!
Yep..the US sucks!! When I saw Maiden in NYC in March it was a
crappy club that could barely keep the wind out from the blizzard
outside!
Another extremely shitty thing is that NEVERMORE is opening for ICED
EARTH in Europe..what an AMAZING show..both bands!!! I think I'll crawl
up into a ball and start weeping for America's musical future now!!
cheers,
Carlo
--
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__| |__
"When you know that your time is close at hand |__ __|
maybe then you'll begin to understand | |
Life down here is just a strange illusion." | |
|_|
--IRON MAIDEN (Hallowed Be Thy Name)
"Neo-classical, progressive, melodic music"
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 20:16:41 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: more hype for the stl con :)
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961003011641.006b06e0@mail.inlink.com>
>Yeha, dude. I can see everyone trying to knock the Arch over. Or
>maybe seeing how many we can fit in one of those teeny elevators that
>goes up to the top, then trying to open the windows so we can all hurl
>out it. YEE HAAA!!!!
woooo! the arch is HISTORY now! can you imagine the text books in the
future? "a bunch of psychotic raven lunatics who called themselves the
"ytsejammers" sadly destroyed the arch the summer of 1997..."
>hey, wait a minute. Aren't you a bit young to be
>a "drunk ytsejammer?" :^).
ok ok, but hey, everyone else can still get drunk :) besides, i dont need
no alkohawl, i can be perfectly demented in my normal state of mind :)
> And we could all go over to the Science
>Center and catch the Laser Floyd show after the con (maybe we could get
>a special DT Laser show). Or we could go crash the midnight showing of
>the Rocky Horror Picture Show at The Tivoli. I'm psyched already.
alright! lets see-
1. raid the arch
2. raid the science center
3. raid the Tivoli
hm... there's got to be more things to raid around here...... well, we can
always-
4. raid various shops on the landing
5. raid downtown
6. raid some munchy stores
hm.. lemme ask the jammers on irc right now... :)
hehe
7. raid my cd collection (but no merlo, you're not keeping any:)
8. raid the 7-eleven here :) Tempus INSISTS its the best place to raid :)
see, this just wont be a ytsecon in one little hotel lobby, we're gonna take
this city by storm . RRRRRRRAH! :)
~Rip
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 96 01:59:33 UT
From: "Joey Axe Man" <IBANEZ_MAN@msn.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 1896
Message-ID: <UPMAIL04.199610030200110058@msn.com>
TRIAXIS is well worth the price...although i dont use it for everything...i
seem to like non tube amps somewhat too...so half of our music is triaxis and
half is the rocktron progap (solid state)
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:53:32 -0500
From: robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: GIANT
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.10.2.-10.53.32.2510543059.221893@bbs.icdc.com>
>This might be your last chance to check out the VF Music Fair before
>they tear it down and put up a Giant supermarket...
"Hi, I'm Alan Noddle. You're all smart shoppers who *know* GIANT offers
the lowest prices...
..So, whether you're looking for T-bones or toothpaste, you'll find the
lowest prices at GIANT. Honest."
Sorry. After working there every day, it gets ingrained. Brainwashing?
Quite possibly.
Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap
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Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 08:12:50 +0000
From: "Dusty Vestal" <vestal@access.usa.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Status on wave files I'm sending to those who requested(NO DTC)
Message-ID: <199610030305.VAA06485@mail.usa.net>
Just letting those know who requested wave files, that I'll send a
bunch more out to everyone on Friday....Got really busy and ran out
of time. However, I'll make some more on Friday....Take Care...
Dusty
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:15:10 -0500
From: Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
To: Vomiting In Digital <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: www.dreamtheater.com
Message-ID: <v01540b00ae78cc99d3c9@bootp-246-17.bootp.virginia.edu>
> From: al587725@campus.cegs.itesm.mx (Marcelo Martinelli)
> By the way has anybody seen the dream-theater server ? I was surfing
> some time ago and I encountered a www.dreamtheater.com . It is a page
> of designers of something I don't remember but it is bizarre.
I checked this thing out. It is really, really cool. Digital Studio sort
of thing. Lots of awesome graphics, and it looks like they're a relatively
well-budgeted little operation, HTML and VRML and model-building and weird
fantasy design and stuff. Appropriately named, I guess.
But it has absolutely nothing to do with Our Band, though...! I wonder if
these people even are aware that there is a band with the same name!
I hope this doesn't turn ugly in the copyright department... the web
company already has all these elaborate logos and designs and things. I
don't think they can both coexist with the same name, you know?
Better tell Mike P and the Boyz to start brainstorming new names...
Directly from the website:
"We at Dream Theater have used our collective talents to combine creative
thinking with cutting edge technology. We approach all projects from an
exhilarating cinematic angle employing an exciting visual aspect that
commands attention. Dream Theater creates excitement."
True.
I think I'll mail the webmaster and ask for an email account.
Scott.
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