YTSEJAM Digest 1903
Today's Topics:
1) JM/ =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C6nima?= /Clockwork
by SaVeur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
2) wymen and loud musik
by "Susan Ostroske" <spatz13@msn.com>
3) Re: glorious progressive/melodic metal.........
by Andrew Berry <andy@aberry.demon.co.uk>
4) Lemur Voice
by Averon DoomHammer <hed@northnet.org>
5) stuph
by "Susan Ostroske" <spatz13@msn.com>
6) Digest 1902
by Irene Raceu <majesty@voyager.net>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1902
by maddy@enteract.com (Madelaine)
8) Jason Becker conert
by NUPRIN <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1900
by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1902
by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
11) Bach
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
12) Tori Amos (NON-DT)
by rhsalsa <rhsalsa@mail.mcn.org>
13) Bass players/yj#1900
by Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu>
14) Prog Source
by etl.etlaywg@memo.ericsson.se
15) Re: LEMUR VOICE CONCERTDATES IN THE NETHERLANDS
by Kain <kain@caribe.net>
16) Visual Music answer
by Marcel Coenen <mcoenen@cobweb.nl>
17) Labrie throws a temper tantrum
by Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu>
18) Re: Labrie throws a temper tantrum
by Kain <kain@caribe.net>
19) KJ-Nevermind
by Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu>
20) MST3KTM/things to crash in StL
by "Dale R. Newberry" <mjnewb@mo.net>
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 03:03:25 -0400
From: SaVeur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: JM/ =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C6nima?= /Clockwork
Message-ID: <199610040703.DAA09368@cais.cais.com>
TooL - =C6nima - buy it.
At 07:01 AM 10/3/96 -0700, Doug Cronkhite wrote:
[...snip...]
>geez.. I don't know how someone can play so smooth, clean, and fast with=20
>the strings being so fat, and far apart.. with a guitar.. it's not hard,=20
>but damn.. he rocks..=20
it's the hair :)
TooL - =C6nima - listen to it.
bafu, it's about goddamned time. now i can finally do my hw.
TooL - =C6nima - understand it.
Clockwork: as some of you on #ytsejam know, my band played open mic nite at
Fat Tuesday's, a local bar. we played PMU (DTC! :) anyway, i was lookin at
their upcoming shows, and low and behold, a band called Clockwork is
skeduled to play Oct. 11. is this the same Clockwork from here? if so, i'm
there. if not, guess someone's changing their name ;)
TooL - =C6nima - live it.
j . c h r i s t i a n j j e n s @ g m u . e d u
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s h t t p : / / w w w . c a i s . n e t / j j e n s /
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 96 07:11:42 UT
From: "Susan Ostroske" <spatz13@msn.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: wymen and loud musik
Message-ID: <UPMAIL08.199610040715030521@msn.com>
>Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:40:12 -0500
>From: SandS@challserv.challenger.net (Sally Murphy)
>doesn't understand why music has to be played loud. Women! Can't live
Hey now!! I'm a wymen and I listen to my music LOUD...or at least I did until
I lost half the hearing in my right hear and a good deal in my left. :| Now,
my inner ear goes numb/ice cold if I overwork it...you really can feel your
inner ear under the right (wrong) circumstances.. but it's certainly a wake
up call for those of us who happen to have nothing beter to do with our lives
than aspire to Petruccidom... so now the volume stays low.. and only last
about 1.5 minutes LOUD before my ear starts ringing like you wouldn't believe
and then goes numb.
Suz
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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 20:32:07 +0100 (BST)
From: Andrew Berry <andy@aberry.demon.co.uk>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: glorious progressive/melodic metal.........
Message-ID: <Marcel-1.08-1003193207-b49evuQ@aberry.demon.co.uk>
On Thu 03 Oct, Carlo D'Angelo wrote:
> > I'm expecting these albums in the mail:
> > STRATOVARIUS- 4th Dimension
> > GAMMA RAY- Land of the Free
> > CONCEPTION- Parallel Minds
> > ATTACK- The Secret Place
> > MERCURY RISING- ??I forget
> > LABRYINTHS- No Limits
> > Can't wait till they get here!!! Fat music fest!!
>
>
> Hi there, you are in for a TREAT my friend.....they ALL rule. now I
> know how hard it is to like EVERY disc when you receive a whole bunch
> but you've hit the jackpot with these!! First off...
>
> STRATOVARIUS:
I got their new one, "Episode" recently, which is amazing. Are the others
(such as 4th Dimension) as good? I expect they are, but I thought I'd
better check...
> GAMMA RAY: speed, glorious melody..nuff said!
[snip]
Agreed! Their best yet.
> "Here in dreamland we will not obey the bastards.........."
~~~~~~~~
According to my CD it's "masters"...
>
> CONCEPTION: Another fantastic album from them...great guitar work with
> intense rythms..2 or 3 clunkers but the rest are a joy! Wonder what
> their new one is like?
IMO Parallel Minds is their best. Some people may like the new one a
lot, but it needs a few more faster sections to hold my attention. All their
albums are well worth getting.
Cheers,
-- +---- Andrew Berry --------------------- http://www.aberry.demon.co.uk ----+ | Metal Links - 1195 links to 548 metal bands' pages across the internet | +--------------- http://www.aberry.demon.co.uk/metallist/ -----------------+ +- URLs wanted to be added to the list - mailto:andrew@aberry.demon.co.uk -+------------------------------
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 00:49:33 -0700 From: Averon DoomHammer <hed@northnet.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lemur Voice Message-ID: <3254C18D.1434@northnet.org>
Hello! I Couldn't help but notice the post from Marcel about the Lemur Voice tour dates. Is there any chance they will be comming to the US? I've listen to their CD "Insights" about 6 times, and I must admit I am completely floored. I must see them live. anyways, thanks for listneing.
--
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 96 07:23:31 UT From: "Susan Ostroske" <spatz13@msn.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: stuph Message-ID: <UPMAIL08.199610040726590511@msn.com>
Hewwo...
It's my bday... and JP didn't even coem to wish me a happy one. :P Oh well... tomorrow: Vai... }:)
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Suz http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/3781 (guess I should go update that bio page, huh, John? :P)
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 03:31:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Irene Raceu <majesty@voyager.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Digest 1902 Message-ID: <199610040731.DAA04075@vixa.voyager.net>
Hello,
Just read the post about the Jason Becker benefit concert, and I just wanted to say that I think that's a great idea! It's nice to hear that he's still being recognised even though he can't play anymore. It seems like all the guitar magazines out there forgot about him.
I'd love to go to this, but I just can't afford it. Is there by chance any way to make donations for the event without attending? Please let me know. Thanks :)
Oh, and just wanted to say "Welcome back, Bafu" :) Good to have you back on the jam :)
Well, see you later :) Hope to see everyone at Ytsecon :) Take care..
Irene
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 07:07:21 -0500 (CDT) From: maddy@enteract.com (Madelaine) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1902 Message-ID: <199610041207.HAA00119@enteract.com>
>Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:35:54 +0000 >From: rycher@xnet.com >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Jason Becker Guitar Mania Benefit Concert (NDTC) >Message-ID: <199610040032.TAA01037@mail.xnet.com> > >Hey fellow 'jammers, > > I apologize for the non-DT content of this post but I think most >of you would be interested in this. My guitar instructor has >organized a benefit concert for Jason Becker... I'm sure most of you >know who he is already. This show is going to take place in Chicago >on Nov. 17 and is going to be an INCREDIBLE collection of guitarists >putting on a hell of a show for a good cause.
YIPPEE!!!!
> The 1st Midwest Jason Becker Guitar Mania > Benefit for ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease) > >Presented by: Toshi Iseda,
WHA??? Um..er...*cough* *giggle*
**Madelaine falls off her chair laughing and goes into convulsions where she lay on the anti-static mat...**
(Good thing I didn't have coffee this morning!)
> >Scheduled to Perform: > > Eddie Van Halen Toshi Iseda** > Zakk Wylde Micheal Angelo > Vinnie Moore Chip Znuff > Tony MacAlpine Dave Uhrich > Micheal Lee Firkins Steve Lukather > Richie Kotzen Billy Sheehan > Rod Morganstein > With More to Be Announced!!!!! > >** CD Release Party
Sorry, folx, but if all of you had ever met Toshi...*smirk* I believe a few years ago one of the bigger Chicago critics said something to the effect that, one time when he was up wanking on stage, the place cleared out "Faster than a bathroom at a Texas chili contest." ;) Unfortunately, I probably won't go to this (medical reasons) as much as I love Jason Becker and his work!
Sorry, just had to share all that with you. Now you can get on with your regularly scheduled readings... ;)
Oh, DTC: Hey, if they can't find a producer, *I'll* do it! I spent a year in recording tech...besides, the engineers are the ones who do most of the studio work..the producer just sets budgets and is nitpicky. I can do THAT! :)
-M
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 07:41:54 -0500 (CDT) From: NUPRIN <nuprin@wichita.fn.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Jason Becker conert Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.961004074041.8165A-100000@wichita.fn.net>
Hey, just wanted to comment that the Jason Becker concert would not even come close to being complete if Jason's long-time partner and guitar god Marty Friedman wasn't there. Has it been mentioned to him???
/, \> /< John Nguyen (aka NUPRIN) } /> Musician/Artist/Programmer/Lover/Parent [\\\\(@):::>|=+=+========================================--- } \> ...and Defender Of All Worthy Women!! \< "all I want is to have my peace of mind" /> --BOSTON \' http://www.feist.com/~nuprin
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 08:46:39 -0500 (EST) From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1900 Message-ID: <v01510104ae7a7e3ef799@[137.238.26.12]>
> And you can't leave out the best part of all . . . getting to meet BABS! >Woo Hoo! ;-)
Stop, you're making me blush....
Actually the best part of the first Con for me was getting to meet everybody that I was writing to and watching Mike Portnoy hustle his butt across the room to get Marlene a brownie (does anybody else remember that?) - that was funny. Geez, sure hope that he's not reading this (laugh). No wait a minute, really the best part was after Mike P played the tape of ACoS and when it was finished he nabbed the tape saying "I'd better grab this before someone else does..."
-BABS
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 08:52:09 -0500 (EST) From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1902 Message-ID: <v01510105ae7a80d793cf@[137.238.26.12]>
>Wait a minute..."ytsejam"...is this some kind of Dream Theater list or >something? > >Bafu
Hey, I just noticed that you were back. Look everyone the Prodigal Child has returned home!!!!!!
-BABS
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:18:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Bach Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961004091214.19686B-100000@bdmserver>
Shane wrote: >Hey, I forgot to send in a card for BMG, and they sent me Skid Row's >"Subhuman Race," and it's actually pretty decent. I was pleasantly >surprised. Sebastian does have a pretty awesome voice, and the playing is >pretty good all-around. Hell, my roommate paid full price for it, too! Go >to BlockBuster and have a listen. You might be surprised, too.
To me Skid Row changed alot from their first album to their third Subhuman Race. I find it a little grungy and that it sounds too much like the last Motley Crue album Motley Crue. Just a little too grungy. Bach does sound great though on Working Man and on another tribute called Spacewalk-tribute to Ace Frehley.
And on the topic of significant others, my live in fiancee does like DT to some degree. She like some of my music but hates others. She doesn't really care for Fates Warning and really hates King's X and Sepultura...
She doesn't understand playing music loud (unless it is her music!). When we are in the car she always turns down my stereo (I can't talk to you when its that loud). Hello! I can't hear it when you are talking...
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Hail to the Redskins 4-1 * Go Orioles-Playoff bound in 1996!!! | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:37:31 -0700 (PDT) From: rhsalsa <rhsalsa@mail.mcn.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tori Amos (NON-DT) Message-ID: <199610041337.GAA03070@mail.mcn.org>
Just thought I would let some of you know that Tori will be on David Letterman tonight.
Shay
"I like my stupid life just the way it is" - Oingo Boingo
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:50:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bass players/yj#1900 Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91a.961004093914.18964B-100000@christa.unh.edu>
I Was just scanning through the latest of the ytsejams and I noticed that someone was talking about Tony MacAlpine's bass player, Ricky Wolking. I'm not here to doubt this person's opinion about Wolking, but I was thinking of another bass player that rips it up. I'm talking about none other than, Mr. Big's Billy Sheehan. This guy is a sick bass player. He practically plays the bass at the speed of Paul Gilbert and his guitar. You probably have heard Billy bringin' the house down on the Rush tribute. Some of the stuff that he did with David Lee Roth is absolutely mystifying. If those of you who are afraid to go into a record store to buy a Mr. Big album, your missing out on a bunch of outstanding musicians. Billy's speed tricks are showcased on a Mr. Big video called, Mr. Big: Live in San Fransisco (from the Warfield) Billy trades licks with Gilbert which are just as fast. He wouldn't surprise me if he could do sweeps on a six-string bass. Anyways, I'm just trying to let everyone know that Billy and Mr. Big can play with the best of 'em. For all the progressive fans out there, on Mr. Big's new album, Hey Man, one of the songs is in 18/8 time. Later!
Tony
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 15:48:54 +0200 From: etl.etlaywg@memo.ericsson.se To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Prog Source Message-ID: <01IA90ZLGOEA8YNNRT@edt.ericsson.se>
Hello all,
I've found a source for prog. rock in the UK. Their catalogue has apparently all the bands discussed frequently on the list. Their name is GFT and the number is 0181-339-9965 (Mon-Fri). So, now there is no reason to miss out on the great stuff the US jammers have got their grubby mitts on :), as it seems my credit card will now be going into overtime in the next few months...
I've received Echolyn's 'As the World', and though it's not as heavy as my usual stuff, it certainly grows on you; they seem to be a mixture of King's X and Alice in Chains (both of which I really couldn't 'get into').
Recently I also got hold of Angra's 'Holy Land', (as frequently recommended here also), and you know what?, this one of the most musically beautiful CDs I've got this year, it's just brilliant. How did you guys get to hear about them in the first place? BTW if you like Angra, then give Conception's 'Parallal Minds' and more recently 'In Your Multitude' a try. They are quite similar and the lead singer also has the same fantastic soaring vocals as on Holy Land.
Somebody earlier recommended a Prodigy 'techno' album that might be of interest to jammers. I also suggest the soundtrack from Mortal Kombat. It has a mixture of pumping-dance tracks and grinding metal from GZR, Nalpalm Death, and Type-O Negative. Graham B., I remember you recommending 'Ozric Tentacles' from a few jams ago - are they similar to the above? Thanks in advance.
Phew...the flames earlier this week were nicely fanned (and some actually quite funny :) ). There was a point about the later Rush ,1980's, as being 'not-as-good' as their earlier stuff. My collection consists of only MP upwards, and though I've tried some of the pre-80's stuff I couldn't wrap my head around Geddy's high-vocals and the muddy/muffled production sound. A good reason for this is that my first Rush album was HYF, and this has been my 'reference point' for the definitive sound of Rush. Does this happen for you guys and other bands with established histories?
Neil (DTIFC), thanks for another good issue. BTW will I miss out on the DT photographs when I renew my sub.? as my current sub. had not expired when DTIFC was re-launched with all the goodies for new subscribers.
Regards everybody,
Ash.
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 11:07:05 -0400 From: Kain <kain@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: LEMUR VOICE CONCERTDATES IN THE NETHERLANDS Message-ID: <32552819.2646@caribe.net>
Whoa, about the VM from Lemur Voice, I said the wrong name...I guess it's the second one..Akasha Chronicles -- /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | "Best way to love anything, is keeping in mind you might lose it." | | "Spread before me is my soul, I'm learning to live." Dream Theater | | mailto:kain@caribe.net | | Visit the official page of the world's best band, Dream Theater at | | http://www.rsabbs.com/dt | \---------------------------------------------------------------------/
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:33:34 +0200 From: Marcel Coenen <mcoenen@cobweb.nl> To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Subject: Visual Music answer Message-ID: <199610041533.RAA01103@spider01.cobweb.nl>
Hi there, the answer to the visual music thing from Lemur Voice is ofcourse the beginning part of:
AKASHA CHRONICLES
That's all folks !
Marcel
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 11:37:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Labrie throws a temper tantrum Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91a.961004113233.7103C-100000@christa.unh.edu>
I just happened to pick this out of the latest jam that I have: >i just read the faq file and i was wondering why james walked off of >the stage and mike had to sing the end of surrounded. could anyone >explain this to me?
>The way I heard it was that someone yelled something derrogatory at >James in the quiet part and James got pissed. At least he didn't >jump the stage and beat the fuck out of the guy, though I would have >liked to have seen that! Anyway, now you know. Don't fuck with KJ! >At least he knows how to handle stress. ;-) Okay, what I want to know is: How well did Mike sing the end of Surrounded? Is this on any concert recordings or was this just at one particular concert that wasn't recorded? I would pay good money to see and/or hear Mike sing. Can anyone help me out. Also, does anyone know what that person said to Labrie. And who is KJ?
Because inquiring minds want to know, Tony
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 11:49:58 -0400 From: Kain <kain@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Labrie throws a temper tantrum Message-ID: <32553226.16CA@caribe.net>
Anthony G LaSorsa wrote: > And who is KJ? > > Because inquiring minds want to know, > > Tony As far as I know it's labrie. Kevin James LaBrie -- /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | "Best way to love anything, is keeping in mind you might lose it." | | "Spread before me is my soul, I'm learning to live." Dream Theater | | mailto:kain@caribe.net | | Visit the official page of the world's best band, Dream Theater at | | http://www.rsabbs.com/dt | \---------------------------------------------------------------------/
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 11:50:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: KJ-Nevermind Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91a.961004114851.19716A-100000@christa.unh.edu>
Nevermind about my last question about KJ. I was just reading the DT biography. I didn't want to sound like an idiot, so I sent this in.
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 11:02:18 -0600 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <mjnewb@mo.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: MST3KTM/things to crash in StL Message-ID: <3255431A.3B38@mo.net>
Hey, I was just watching Mystery Science Theater sooo: The Movie last night and noticed a reference to a revered prog band (not DT here) that I hadn't noticed when I saw it last Spring. For those of you who haven't seen it (and you should, really :), there's a scene where the flying saucer in the crappy movie the guys are watching lands on this planet (obviously a very cheesy painted scene thing). Well, one of the 'bots watching the flick says something like "hey, they're landing on a Roger Dean album cover," to which one of the other guys says "yeah, these guys are big Yes fans" or something like that. I almost fell out of my chair. That has got to be the funniest movie I have seen in a LONG time. Hey, one more activity for jammers to do at a St. Louis con. We could crash the Steve & DC show (though we'd have to get up early). They're broadcast out at Westport, and they have one of those keen windows where you can watch them as they do the show, so this would be an easy one to do. BTW, they have used DT as bumper music before (it's a morning talk show (that's REALLY funny) for those of you who don't know). Later all.
Dale R. Newberry
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