YTSEJAM Digest 1905
Today's Topics:
1) Rush tastes (NDTC!)
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1901
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
3) Some things....
by "Richard A. Bond, Jr." <rickbond@concentric.net>
4) This is bad!
by Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu>
5) Clockwork
by "Peter Pignatelli Jr." <74243.363@CompuServe.COM>
6) Old stuff...
by "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
7) Re: There's A Fire In The House
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
8) Stuff...
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
9) DT/win95
by YAP <auhcy@asu.edu>
10) wymen/womyn
by "Susan Ostroske" <spatz13@msn.com>
11) PROG-METAL radio setlist #2.................
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
12) Re: PROG-METAL radio setlist #2.................
by Carlos Alfaro <kurt@fgallery.com>
13) Jason Becker benefit
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
14) New Titles
by "Mark Fitchett" <mafit@msn.com>
15) * Lo DTC
by Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1900
by Tim Spear <Veilmaya@dircon.co.uk>
17) GERMAN JAMMERS - this is for you
by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
18) VAI/SAT/Johnson Dallas TX?? anyone going?
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 96 18:07:41 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush tastes (NDTC!)
Message-ID: <9610050107.AA02186@tengs1>
Ash wrote this:
Phew...the flames earlier this week were nicely fanned (and some
actually quite funny :) ). There was a point about the later Rush
,1980's, as being 'not-as-good' as their earlier stuff. My
collection consists of only MP upwards, and though I've tried
some of the pre-80's stuff I couldn't wrap my head around
Geddy's high-vocals and the muddy/muffled production sound. A
good reason for this is that my first Rush album was HYF, and
this has been my 'reference point' for the definitive sound of
Rush. Does this happen for you guys and other bands with
established histories?
And I reply:
HYF was my first Rush album, too (though I'd been hearing the other
stuff on the radio). I think MP or Archives (2 LP/tape of the first
three albums) were my next... I just started skipping around *especially*
after Presto came out (because I was majorly dissapointed). p/g turned
out to be the last Rush album I bought, probably two years after I
first started. I have no era of preference. I think it depends on the
person. Incidentally, HYF is still my favorite Rush album though I
think that MP and PeW are better all around.
Zach
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:13:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1901
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.961004211227.32154A-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
Please, people, have mercy on me. I'll ask again. How does a stupid-ass
get on the VH mailing list? And any other shed (maybe Shrapnel?)
guitarist's mailing lists? Bless me with a fountain of e-mail knowledge.
Don't hold my spelling, grammar, and punctuation against me. Later. Take
care and be well.
Matt B
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 22:32:47 -0700
From: "Richard A. Bond, Jr." <rickbond@concentric.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Some things....
Message-ID: <3255F2FF.391@concentric.net>
Some things I wanted to respond to. I read in the local newspaper today
that the VH/DLR thing is totally over. Dave seems to think it was all a
publicity stunt because Gary Cherone and Eddie VH have been working
together for the past 3 months, and he is (according to the paper) the
new singer for VH. Again...this is what I read in the paper, so if I'm
wrong...not my fault. Second...why don't start a new list just for this
RUDD guy! ;)
Rick Bond
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:34:30 -0500
From: Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: This is bad!
Message-ID: <199610050236.TAA01934@pawn.ax.com>
Okay who would be the most likely member of DT to show up at the
Ytsecon? I would say Mike Portnoy wouldn't you? Well I looked on the
official DT page under the tour dates section which gives all of
Portnoy's drum clinic dates. Well it seems that on October 12th (the
day of the Ytsecon) Mike is going to be giving a clinic in California!
This doesn't bode well for the Ytsecon. If all else failed I was
counting on Mike being there. I am having second thoughts about
having spent all that money to fly in from Wisconsin. Sue me but I
wanted to meet more than jammers I was looking forward to some members
of the band.
Anyway just thought I would let people know this. See you all at the
Ytsecon anyway.
Jason
Currently Playing: Doctor Butcher - Doctor Butcher
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Date: 04 Oct 96 22:37:52 EDT
From: "Peter Pignatelli Jr." <74243.363@CompuServe.COM>
To: ytse jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Clockwork
Message-ID: <961005023751_74243.363_BHR38-2@CompuServe.COM>
Hey
Sombody mentioned a band named Clockwork playing at a club in October.
This is not the same CLOCKWORK that you jammers have heard of. We are based in
the Philadelphia, PA area. If any of you know this band or are going to the
show we'd appreciate very much if you could inform them that our trademark on
the name is pending.
THANKS
Chris Pignatelli
CLOCKWORK
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:15:28 +0000
From: "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Old stuff...
Message-ID: <199610050323.VAA29827@cyberhighway.net>
> good reason for this is that my first Rush album was HYF, and
> this has been my 'reference point' for the definitive sound of
> Rush. Does this happen for you guys and other bands with
> established histories?
Well,
I really didn't start listening to any sort of music until about
4 years ago, so my tastes have grown up with the 90's. Most of the
albums that started me into the bands were ones like Empire,
Counterparts, and Handful of Rain. I&W was luckily my introduction
to DT. I dunno if WDADU would have caught my attention like I&W did
because of the poorer production quality. Likely, I would have
dissed DT ever after... That would've sucked!
NP: Queensryche: Rage for Order
IbnzRG570 a.k.a. Mr. Chuckalupugus
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
"Wouldn't you like to be a Warhead, too?"
--Extreme -- III Sides to Every Story
"Let's get us an 8-ball, it'll last us all weekend!"
--Dennis Leary -- No Cure For Cancer
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 96 23:40:52 EDT
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: There's A Fire In The House
Message-ID: <9610050340.AA15911@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Hey, Bafu. Where the hell have you been?
By the way, I read ina post here that somebody thinks the weenie song is
cheesey? What? You're nuts. That song is hysterically funny, the sound
effects are cool. so what, there's no music and the song itself is childish.
That's the point. It's meant to be immature and funny. And I love it.
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Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:38:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Stuff...
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.961005003240.9567A-100000@indy21.gclab.missouri.edu>
Tony wrote:
>Okay, what I want to know is: How well did Mike sing the end of Surrounded?
Don't know...
>Is this on any concert recordings or was this just at one particular
>concert that wasn't recorded?
I haven't heard anything about a boot of this... although it it were out
there, I think it would rank in imfamy with the HftH show where James
forgets the lyrics to Scarred... :)
>I would pay good money to see and/or hear Mike sing.
1.) Buy a copy of Awake.
2.) Listen to The Mirror
The parts with 'Temptation' and 'self control', etc... That's Mike.
>Can anyone help me out. Also, does anyone know what that person said to
>Labrie.
Probably something about Fabio... :)
>And who is KJ?
LaBrie. Kevin James LaBrie to be exact. Read the FAQ. :)
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 22:38:53 -0700 (MST)
From: YAP <auhcy@asu.edu>
To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT/win95
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961004223048.20186A-100000@email1.asu.edu>
I want to thank the person responsible for making the DT theme for
Win95. It's awesome. My brother (NOT a DT fan) loves the wallpaper and
the sounds and he allowed me to set it up on the family computer, yeah!
Now I just need to find something that my other 17 classmates will like
so it can stay on the studio computer instead of the image being
changed all the time.
BTW did anyone write to DT, the design company asking for any info?
Hui-Chi
auhcy@asu.edu
http://www.public.asu.edu/~auhcy
Industrial Design, class of 97
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Date: Sat, 5 Oct 96 06:22:24 UT
From: "Susan Ostroske" <spatz13@msn.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: wymen/womyn
Message-ID: <UPMAIL08.199610050625400304@msn.com>
Just so all you bored Jammers who are e'mailing me about this know, I WAS NOT
aiming for "womyn"... I was being silly... spelling phonetically... etc.
Ok? Ok...
Just another stinking day in paradise...
Suz
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Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 03:15:39 -0400
From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: PROG-METAL radio setlist #2.................
Message-ID: <32560B1B.3FF1@earthlink.net>
Whats up guys,
My second radio show as a student DJ for the College of Mount St.
Vincent (Riverdale, Bronx NY) went a lot smoother than my first. I
have settled into a format in which I will play songs.
1) My first song of the show each week will be an epic!! (Its a lot
easier to settle in when you have 20 minutes to get your shit
together!)..I wanna make the show as progressive as possible and there's
no better way than to just hit 'em in the face right off the bat!
2) My second song will ALWAYS be a FATES WARNING tune....no ifs, ands
or buts about it..they rule and it has to be done!!
3) After the short news break I like to play a double shot consisting
of an instrumental and a regular song.
4) IRON MAIDEN is a requirement!! I would be denying my very
existence if I did not pay this monumental band homage every week! They
are the gods of the thunderous gallops!! I gotta find a marble bust of
Steve Harris for the radio studio!
anyhow, here is my setlist for week #2.....
RUSH: "Xanadu"
FATES WARNING: "The Arena"
STRATOVARIUS: "Lord of the Wasteland"
SAVATAGE: "Gutter Ballet"
VIPER: "A Cry From the Edge"
YNGWIE MALMSTEEN: "Disciples of Hell"
MANOWAR: "Ride the Dragon"
THOUGHT INDUSTRY: "Blistered Text and Bleeding Pens"
---(news break---
IRON MAIDEN: "Genghis Khan"
IRON MAIDEN: "Killers"
HELLOWEEN: "March of Time"
KING DIAMOND: "The Family Ghost"
GAMMA RAY: "Tribute to the Past"
TAD MOROSE: "Fading Pictures"
MASTERMIND: "Long Distance Love Affair"
LEVIATHAN: "Confidence Not Arrogance"
ANGRA: "Painkiller" <-- (Judas Priest Tribute Vol. II)
RUNNING WILD: "Riding the Storm"
I like to have a small promotional giveaway kind of thing (a free pack
of gum!) if anyone can answer my question but it looks like I'll never
get a correct answer :-(
I asked if any student knew who the original vocalist for FATES
WARNING was?? No one called up! I think an easier question would have
been who Kurt Cobain's great-great-great-grandfather was! Well, hope
this list gets you people into more of these bands and more great music!
cheers,
Carlo
--
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maybe then you'll begin to understand | |
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--IRON MAIDEN (Hallowed Be Thy Name)
"Neo-classical, progressive, melodic music"
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Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 04:38:56 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <kurt@fgallery.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: PROG-METAL radio setlist #2.................
Message-ID: <32561EA0.22DA@fgallery.com>
ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
>
>
>
> anyhow, here is my setlist for week #2.....
>
> RUSH: "Xanadu"
> FATES WARNING: "The Arena"
> STRATOVARIUS: "Lord of the Wasteland"
> SAVATAGE: "Gutter Ballet"
> VIPER: "A Cry From the Edge"
> YNGWIE MALMSTEEN: "Disciples of Hell"
> MANOWAR: "Ride the Dragon"
> THOUGHT INDUSTRY: "Blistered Text and Bleeding Pens"
>
> ---(news break---
>
> IRON MAIDEN: "Genghis Khan"
> IRON MAIDEN: "Killers"
> HELLOWEEN: "March of Time"
> KING DIAMOND: "The Family Ghost"
> GAMMA RAY: "Tribute to the Past"
> TAD MOROSE: "Fading Pictures"
> MASTERMIND: "Long Distance Love Affair"
> LEVIATHAN: "Confidence Not Arrogance"
> ANGRA: "Painkiller" <-- (Judas Priest Tribute Vol. II)
> RUNNING WILD: "Riding the Storm"
>
>
> Wheres dt?? :)
> --
> _
>
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Date: Sat, 05 Oct 96 11:42:10 GMT
From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
Subject: Jason Becker benefit
Message-ID: <M.100596.134210.45@wxs4-5.worldaccess.nl>
Maybe John Petrucci could take the twins too? That way he could combine the
benefit with the birthday party, take his wife, and all you lucky 'Jam bastards
that can actually get to go to the concert may see all of them, all those great
guitarists and maybe a glimpse or two of Jason Becker...
You have my envy, most profoundly so...
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Date: Sat, 5 Oct 96 13:01:53 UT
From: "Mark Fitchett" <mafit@msn.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New Titles
Message-ID: <UPMAIL06.199610051304080246@msn.com>
I just checked out the two new DT song titles on the homepage - clocking in at
over 90 mins now (YES!) - I was thinking - is it just me or does "Peruvian
Skies" sound like an instrumental song title??
By the way for those of you who dont get the fanzine I&W(youre missing out!)
the lyric credits for the first 8 songs go:
JPx4
MPx2
KJLX2
It says JM had lyrics for a song (possibly 1 of 2 new ones) + Derek had
written all music for Anna Lee.
Sorry if this is old news for anyone, just trying to help!
Adios
Ytsemark
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Date: Sat, 5 Oct 96 16:24 DFT
From: Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: * Lo DTC
Message-ID: <m0v9XeF-0002joC@tellus.thn.htu.se>
Hi folks,
I went down to the local record shops and found:
I Mother Earth DIG -93
all I knew about this band is that they toured with DT on the Awake-tour, so
I gave them a listen. Do you know if this is there only CD? To me it their
sound was quite hard to categorize. Some parts were really funky, while
other were more hard core metal. Can't say I really liked it, though.
There were quite a lot of people in the store, so I just gave them a short
try, but even though it just costed 60 SEK ( $ 8) ( used) I didn't buy it.
If I change my mind, I know it will always be there, because in Trollha:ttan
I'm all alone listening to DT-related stuff, (I miss you so...).
Galactic Cowboys Machine Fish -96
First I thought that this was brand new stuff, than I realized it was from
January, so perhaps it's already discussed here.
I was so disappointed! I love the space-stuff -91, but this one had nothing
of chorus-singing, and was just plain mainstream heavy music to me. sorry if
I tread on a your toes!
Otrah Morningrise -96
The label said: Extremely progressive metal. 5 songs sums up to over one
hour with these swedish gods.
That sounded interesting! All songs are more than 10 min, and they were all
very epic, and This is great!, I was thinking, until the "singer" started.
He directly made King Diamond sound like Julio Iglesias!
Too bad!, because they sound good musically. Like a very metallish Anekdoten
( that is a very good grade!), still perhaps a bit too fast for me, but I
could live with that, because their slower, more epic parts really got to my
heart.
And I was extremely surprised when I heard the last one. It was slow, with
good vocals. Some sort of a love-song, still heavy. Is there something
called accoustic-doom? Will fit.
Please listen to them, if you have a chance. I am still too puzzled to know
if I'll spend $ 20 on them.
Letterman
I've noticed that you talk a lot about the DLetterman-show. Why is that? We
can see it here in Sweden as well, but I think nobody does, I haven't heard
anyone comment on it. Is he really big/important over there?
To me it sounds very strange that you guys give flames upon person that
calls Rush, Marillion, Nirvana, PearlJam progressive/alternative/sell-outs ,
if you stick to that kind of program Letterman gives. That, to me, is the
most commercial TV-show you can imagine.
OK! Go ahead ,flame me. I can take it!
If you really are into progressive culture you should be reading the
Nobel-prize-winners. Them to me are the least commercial creators upon
earth. and do avoid movie-stars as well...
Just don't get me wrong. I've never tried any Nobel-prize winner, and I
guess I never will, and I too like basic films once in a while, and plain
TV-shows, going to discos, or other normal stuff. Just don't think that your
way of thinking is the better one all the time.
I do consider a person that loves Green Day and say Salvador Dali ,
interesting. He just has another form expressing his "progressive"-vein.
(I'll increase DT-content until next time)
All for now/
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Henrik Gustafsson
Quality deployer
henrik@thn.htu.se +46 (0)520 47 50 49 (fax +46 (0)520 47 50 98)
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Date: Sat, 5 Oct 96 15:44:55 +0000
From: Tim Spear <Veilmaya@dircon.co.uk>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1900
Message-ID: <199610051446.AA28065@felix.dircon.co.uk>
>who is that that yells right before Bombay Vindaloo? I think this was a
>thread before but I didn't have it then so I didn't care. Is that someone
>on here?
>
>Craig Wuthrich
it depends which yell you mean? :-)
the guy who did the long yell was in front of me...
but you can hear me calling for "status seeker"
(doubtless Ill get flamed for 'ruining' the recording! )
Tim Spear
-- Veilmaya@dircon.co.uk -- http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~veilmaya/ --
Official Homepage for C://OLLAPSE
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Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 17:04:41 +0200 (MESZ)
From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list)
Subject: GERMAN JAMMERS - this is for you
Message-ID: <9610051504.AA52434@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Hello!
A short note for all German (or German speaking) DT-Fans -- if you don't
understand a word, don't worry, you wouldn't care anyway.
--- snip
Ja, ja, ich weiss, es hat laenger gedauert, als angekuendigt, aber das sollten
Dream Theater-Fans ja inzwischen gewoehnt sein ;-|....
Die ersten THE MIRROR-News (also das erste Infoblatt) sind fertig und gehen
Montag raus. Fuer Ytsejam-Leser duerfte an DT-News nicht viel neues dabei sein,
die sind aber diesmal eh nur Nebensache. Wichtiger sind genaue Informationen
ueber THE MIRROR und wie Ihr da drankommen koennt.
THE MIRROR ist das neue deutsche Dream Theater Fanzine. Wie immer die Bitte:
Wenn Ihr Fragen, Vorschlaege oder was auch immer haben solltet, sofort melden!
e-mail: TheMirror@westend.com
WWW: http://www.westend.com/TheMirror (noch 'heavily under construction';-))
Steffen
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Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:46:10 -0500
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: VAI/SAT/Johnson Dallas TX?? anyone going?
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.10.5.12.46.10.6651.7726@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
Hey,
I live in Kansas City and I am going to the Dallas TX G3
tour on Oct 20th. Any ytsejamers going to that show?
I need to get tickets. Good tickets. Anyone can help?
take care,
todd s
Dallas Texas...here I come!
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