YTSEJAM Digest 1942
Today's Topics:
1) the great criss oliva
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
2) Re: YKYADTFW...
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
3) DT Theme/ACOS
by GRAHAM JOHN BOYLE <progmetalgjb@s054.aone.net.au>
4) Rush = No DT.
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
5) Prism Delivery
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
6) The Drake
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
7) Swapped Binary
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
8) Phish, and tomorrow's Rush show
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1941
by Cunning Linguist <skooc@earthlink.net>
10) Re: Prism Delivery
by Cunning Linguist <skooc@earthlink.net>
11) Rush opener?
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
12) I got 96 Rock in Atlanta to play Dream Theater!!!
by "Beavis (Wes Foll)" <wfoll@america.net>
13) Re: DT and DVD
by drkhoe@squirm.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
14) IM GOING TO THE DALLAS G3 show....!!!!! :)
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
15) Re: Rush opener?
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
16) Re: Lemur Voice
by "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
17) Disorders, Hidden rarities
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
18) Rush/DT, Worms, The shreddable electable
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 15:40:27 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: the great criss oliva
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961018204027.006b1af4@mail.inlink.com>
>
>> October 17 1993
>> Criss Oliva
>> died
>
>Damn... I was just talking about him earlier today with my friend
>about whether Sav would have taken the direction they had if he
>hadn't died. I didn't know that today was the day either. "I'm
>feeling kinda spooky..."
whoa! i was thinkin the same thing! oh wait, thats probably because i
think of it most every day :) seriously, why does shit like what happened
to Criss Oliva and Randy Rhoads always happen to the greatest? Good thing
we still got Petrucci :) <knockin on wood>
~Rip
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:21:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
Subject: Re: YKYADTFW...
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961018182059.21863D-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> ..you spend $20 on the Mechanic/MCA version of WDADU, more for
> completeness than for the liner notes.
>
> But, hell, I got a used version of Yes' "Union" for $3, so why not
> splurge a little, right? :)
How do you think i feel? I spent $40 for the Japanesse AWAKE, and i
bought Union when it came out!@
btw, union _DOES_ suck. :)
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Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 08:21:09 +1000
From: GRAHAM JOHN BOYLE <progmetalgjb@s054.aone.net.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT Theme/ACOS
Message-ID: <326802B8.56C@s054.aone.net.au>
G'day jammers,
I am only new to computers, so forgive me if this sounds really dumb.
I have down loaded the DT and Rush theme for W95, and I have MS Plus!
But how do I get the thing to run?? can anyone help??
As far as I know ACOS has been around since WDADU, James sung the song
as part of his audition for the band (I have the demo)
Cheers Graham
Sydney,
Australia.
)
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:24:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Yitz-see-jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Rush = No DT.
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961018182304.21863E-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Whee@!@!
To any and all of you who are going to the Philadelphia RUSH
show: e-mail me. i wanna get together after the show and hang. I think
Ghost (you know, Ghostland? Him) and i might do something after the show,
and you all are invited. Lemme know.
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Michael B. Ostrich - musical advisor/consultant
email: syrinx@dreamt.org
mostrich@worldnet.att.net
syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
"..and once you gift the gift away there's nothing you can do
about it. nothing that you do or say can change the way i feel about
it. try to look inside of me to find the gift that i am giving. glad
you had a chance to see the gift that i'm delivering."
- bob mould.
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:26:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Prism Delivery
Message-ID: <199610182226.SAA04326@beasley.cris.com>
Ahhh! The receipt of three Bahr Selections occured today with the USPS
delivery of none other than:
1. When Dream And Today Unite
2. Antiquities
3. Scenes From A Memory
4. Critical Mass
Found to be particularly amusing are the liner notes for WDATU. Also, thank
goodness John Arch couldn't accept their offer as replacement to Dominici.
Yikes! What were they thinking? (No offense to all of you early-days Fates
fans.) Now I'm +really+ itching for Precious Things, and then the other
planned Prism Records releases for the coming year. You GO, Mike!
When do we get to hear some Scoobaca?
-Rick
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:13:49 -0700
From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The Drake
Message-ID: <199610181913.MAA13067@main.cfmc.com>
I'm scattered today....I can't focus worth a damn. So one message becomes
two. At any rate...
The Aquarium Rescue Unit. Oteil Burbidge is officially one of the scariest
bassists on earth. Bill Dickens and Victor Wooten were brought up as
similar players, which is actually, legitimately, the class Burbidge is in.
I'd add Muzz Skilling to that list. It's more a picking-hand conceptual
thing that they all have in common. Weird and wild stuff....I TRY at that
kind of thing, but it ain't happening....
Tool and Soundgarden as progressive: Well, I'D say they are, but a lot of
folks tend not to agree with me. I have a very broad view of progressivity
and would say that, for example, Maiden and Metallica have played some
pretty progressive music (in fact, I'd STILL say Maiden's an increasingly
progressive band, Metallica is probably less so now). Clockhammer, King's
X, Atomic Opera, and Primus are all progressive, I'd say, too. Even some of
the contemporary alternative bands (most, maybe, even) have some LEANINGS
that way. To me, Live and Pearl Jam sound more like Rush, Zeppelin, and Yes
than The Ramones. On the other hand, the whole scene is bastardized --
Warren Cucurullo playing with Duran Duran, Paul Simon and Bill Laswell both
playing with Olodun (and the whole history or Material, really), bands like
Mr. Bungle and the old Band of Susans fusing together hyper-agressivity and
contemporary classicism. And I'd say that mess is, in and of itself, a
progresive mess. At any rate, Tool and Soundgarden fit neatly into a
conversation here, I'd say (there are probably more people here that LIKE
both bands than DISLIKE both bands). Whether they're progressive or
not....hmmmm. My vote is registered.
Adam D. Barnhart
adamb@cfmc.com
ydnt85a@prodigy.com
Five Gratuitous CD's:
=====================
1. Rush: Test For Echo
2. Tori Amos: Little Earthquakes
3. Yellowjackets: Dreamland
4. Charlie Parker: Now's The Time
5. Stanley Clarke: If This Bass Could Only Talk
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:19:35 -0700
From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Swapped Binary
Message-ID: <199610181819.LAA15359@main.cfmc.com>
Thoughts (More than one this time, I swear):
I would say "Awake" is definitely a step AWAY from "Images and Words." I
dunno that I'd say it's forward. Probably off to the side. "Images and
Words" is my favorite DT disc, but "Awake" is also a phenomenal work.
Nothing to be ashamed of, for sure. And I like that the band has been
playing with different things, stylistically and compositionally. All the
great bands (in my book...Rush, Metallica, Jethro Tull, Yes, Zeppelin,
Weather Report) tackle NEW things from album to album. I'm heartened that
Dream Theater has done the same.
The more I'm listening to "Carved in Stone," the more I'm hearing WDADU.
It's a little weird. Particularly in the first couple of tunes....they
certainly wouldn't be totally incongruous on the first record. It's kinda
weird, really. Still, I'd say Shadow Gallery's got a good sound and is
strong, compositionally. I'm increasingly impressed...and would REALLY
recommend the record to those of you who don't yet have it.
Finally, I just want to affirm again that the new Vai and Galactic Cowboys
efforts are awesome. Enough of that.
Adam D. Barnhart
adamb@cfmc.com
ydnt85a@prodigy.com
Five Gratutitous CD's:
======================
1. Rush: Test For Echo
2. Pearl Jam: Vs.
3. Yes: Fragile
4. King's X: Dogman
5. Tori Amos: Little Earthquakes
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:39:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Phish, and tomorrow's Rush show
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9610181853.B20909-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se>
> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1934
>
> Is Phish the same as Fish, former vocalist in Marillion?
No. Phish is a band from right here in my home-away-from-hometown of
Burlington, VT. I haven't heard a whole lot of them, but I've liked what
I've heard. They've been (unfairly, I think) compared to the Dead, but
I'm pretty sure it's because the Dead following has been converting to
Phish, with the following the tour and the chemical amusement aids and
whatnot. They're a four piece band - guitar, bass, keys, drums. They
have some great vocal harmonies, and seem to be very comfortable with
experimentation - time sigs and the like. Again, I haven't heard much,
but I've been meaning to pick some up. I think - and I could be wrong -
that fans of old Floyd and old Yes might dig it. Some really good
instrument playing, some great singing, and some catchy hooks. Find
yourself a used CD and see if you like it.
Those of you that are going to be in Albany tomorrow night - we should
meet somewhere. My seats are 7th row, Ged's side, if you want to find me
(Andy and Brian). Otherwise, we can pick a more accessible location.
Let me know!
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:05:23 -0700
From: Cunning Linguist <skooc@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1941
Message-ID: <3267F113.820@earthlink.net>
> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:46:44 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
> To: ytsejam@ax.com
> Subject: Re: whatever
> Message-ID: <199610181347.GAA20663@pawn.ax.com>
> First of all, this shouldn't be on the 'Jam because I *know* no
> one wants to hear about this anymore. I'm not a Jeremy who goes out and
> specifically is looking to screw people over (I think he's done it to at
> least 5 or 6 people)
No, You're Al Balkiewicz, I person who agrees to trade with a person, then
unfortunately is involved in a bad accident, then over a year after recovery
from that accident STILL can't see his way to complete his trade. Sounds like
an unethical bastard if you ask me. And since you posted this to the jam, you
have made it everyone's business.
> But enough about that, this is supposed to be about DT and stuff,
> right? I just got "Carved in Stone" by Shadow Gallery and an Anacrusis
> CD (for $3!).
Pardon me if I find this last line confusing, but you just said that this
list is about DT then you go on about SG and Anacrusis? Hmmmm
>Al Balkiewicz
>vocals, Half Naked
maybe the band should change their name to Half-Wit!
> From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
> Subject: yank this!
>
> > NY Yankees in 5!!!
>
> Try Atlanta.........in 3 :):):):):):):):)
How about DT in February?
> From: Geir Botterli <geirb@hekta.iet.hist.no>
> Subject: RE:Yngwie's name
> Actually, it's yng-ve , y as in say, e as in _e_ver. At least in
> Scandinavia it is :)
After seeing him live last month I think Fat and Bald is a better description
of him. ;)
> From: Mike Backof <mbacko1@umbc.edu>
> Subject: T-Shirts, CDs
> Hello Jammers,
>
> Carpe Diem is a very clear audience recording, a but low on output
> but you can jack it up and it sounds good.
Speaking of things I never got, I was one of the first to EVER send money in
for Carpe Diem and I STILL haven't got mine; Now I know better than to deal
with people accross the pond. From now on my money stays here in the USA.
> >The shirt itself is fairly priced, but how can the $9 for s&h be explained?
> Simple. I went to the post office. I checked on shipping overseas to
> places where the bulk of the orders are coming from (Australia, Germany,
> Belgium, Switzerland, etc...). The average price to ship the shirts
> overseas is $9.25. I'm not doing it because I hate you people, I'm doing
> it because I can't afford *not* to. Believe me, if there were a cheaper
> alternative, I would take it, but I don't see one. Sorry...
I can concurr on this. I sent a sweat shirt and sweat pants over to Holland
and to send it surface mail was over $12 and to send it air mail was $25! The
whole package weighed LESS than 3 lbs.
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 15:57:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Cunning Linguist <skooc@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Prism Delivery
Message-ID: <199610182257.PAA18313@armenia.it.earthlink.net>
Also, thank
>goodness John Arch couldn't accept their offer as replacement to Dominici.
>Yikes! What were they thinking? (No offense to all of you early-days Fates
>fans.)
John Arch really didn't want that track put on the CD (yes, he knows about
it) because of the quality of the performance. I know some people tend to
think that vocalists are perfect all the time, but they're not. I think if
this were a properly mixed recording where the vocals weren't so prominent
in the mix it would've sounded much better. The reason I say this is because
of the Arch stuff from his Fate's days I think his voice is great, and to
judge him by a inferior bootleg recording isn't fair.
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:09:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush opener?
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.93.961018160906.2669A-100000@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu>
Any idea who is opening for RUSH?
Lauters,
Conrad
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:19:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Beavis (Wes Foll)" <wfoll@america.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: I got 96 Rock in Atlanta to play Dream Theater!!!
Message-ID: <199610182319.TAA14649@atl1.america.net>
>Aw....man, I wish I could get a radio station around here that had enough
>balls to break away from the mainstream and play some f'ing DT.
>Actually, I did hear PMU on Z-Rock, the national station, the other day at
>lunch time. I was really surprised.
Check this out, I FINALLY got my local station 96 Rock in Atlanta to play
some DT and other metal!!!!!! It's the Perfect ALbum Side they do once a
night, and you send in 6 songs. They havne't played it yet, but the dj said
they would. Here's what I sent to the local dj, with her words included in
a reply to my request...see ya! Oh, and notice, the dj is ASKING me to
request DT!!!!!!!
--------deejay's words------
>Hey don't shoot the messenger -- but you need to resend your perfect album
>side too ( and please put the Dream Theatre in there ---)
>We'll let you know when we're gonna play it if you send it again, now that
>we have your # and address...
-------My return reply-----------
Okay, here we go. 8) ALL the info in one message for once hehe. Dream
theater included. Feel VERY VERY free to take out however many songs you
need to, so that Dream Theater can be played. THEY are awesome!
1. Rock N Roll -Zep
2. Symphony of Destruction --Megadeth "Countdown to Extinction"
3. Floods --Pantera "Great southern trendkill"
4. Paranoid --Black Sabbath
5. Albatross --Corrosion of Conformity "Deliverance"
6. Metropolis Pt. 1 --Dream Theater "Images and Words" if this is too
long, then Pull Me Under would be cool.
Beavis (Wes Foll)
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:26:04 -0800
From: drkhoe@squirm.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT and DVD
Message-ID: <199603300026.QAA03277@squirm.gmsnet.com>
Actually... they could try producing a regular double sided CD...
-The Doc
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:59:46 -0500 From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: IM GOING TO THE DALLAS G3 show....!!!!! :) Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.10.18.-14.59.46.14639.4946@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
I finally found some tickets for the G3 Dallas show Oct. 20th.
I *WILL* be wearing my Ytsejam Dream Theater SHirt!!
say hi if ya see me.
see ya
todd s
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:47:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu> Subject: Re: Rush opener? Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961018204702.19348A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> Any idea who is opening for RUSH?
easy. no one is.
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:47:49 +0000 From: "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Lemur Voice Message-ID: <199610190054.SAA24253@cyberhighway.net>
>this oriental girl playing classical stuff arranged as techno/ dance >music with her violin. I thought it was cool. I know they had done
That would be Vannesa-Mae. I saw that show to and bought her CD, "The Violin Player" (Duh!?!). It's actually pretty good. It has a few references to classical music (Toccata and Fugue in D minor, etc.) all played with drums, guitars, etc. I recommend it for those who like electric violins and stuff. She can rock and stuff, but not quite rok nadz.
>have a few gripes. I can barely understand the vocals, which I think >has something to do with the production since I can understand Gregoor
Hey, Mike! While you're giving out award and stuff, why not gice Gregoor the infamous, "I sing like James LaBrie during the interlude of Innocence Faded and noone can understand me! Award." Serious, they give it out at the Grammys every year! I can follow along in the liner notes and still not figure out what he's singing. Great voice, though. Kinda Gary Cherone-ish with a touch of LaBrie. IbnzRG570 aka Mr. Chuckalupugus
Striving for Most Frequent Poseur on the Dream Theater Mailing list...
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Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 02:32:48 GMT From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Disorders, Hidden rarities Message-ID: <32681b56.4972689@mail.inforamp.net>
Good Evening!
>Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 17:09:41 -0700 (PDT) >From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
>Sadistic humor at a pinnacle. ;) "Join the mafia and threaten to break >people's skulls if they don't check out DT."
That's funny, the people I terminated yesterday didn't seem to see any humor in the procedure at all. Oh well, maybe they suffer from seasonal affective disorder. ;)
>> * Couldn't get a Subcon, but my friend wants me to sell his Acoustic >> Dreams at auction. It's #002. His asking opening bid is $100. > >Is the disc made of brass?
It's a standard disc, but the liner contains a small packet of cocaine autographed by John DeLorean. ;)
Cheers,
Rick Toronto
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Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 02:32:59 GMT From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Rush/DT, Worms, The shreddable electable Message-ID: <32681bef.5125765@mail.inforamp.net>
Hiya,
>Date: Mon, 14 Oct 96 17:16:40 PDT >From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
>Anyway, I'm off to cast my votes. I hesitate to vote for DT as my >favorite band. I feel Rush has made such an impact on music today that >I want to state that publically. I'll vote for DT using my friend's >account !^)>
Ah, a man of true conviction! ;)
Actually, I agree with you. Rush has been my favorite band since I bought their first album in 73. However, I won't be saying that if Counterparts 3 is released in 2 years. ;) DT is my panacea for complexity in hard rock, but Rush is a part of my life. It was around during some of the most important points of my life and it is truly a part of what makes me ME.
>Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:20:37 -0700 >From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
>Speaking of who influenced who, I wish that DT would influence Rush! I >pratically dropped Rush like a hot potatoe when DT came along. I >prefer music that makes me think a bit.
Woah! That's opening a big can of worms!
After all of the themes that Neil has explored lyrically, I'm amazed that you can say that. Nobody's Hero deals with anonymity vs. celebrity and the true value of human contributions. Time Stand Still discusses the need to embrace life lest we should let it slip by all too quickly. Witch Hunt reminds us of the dangers of ignorance and prejudice. Losing It reveals the pain of abilities and dreams lost. Red Sector A deals with the liberation of the camps from the Nazis. Those are all things that not only make me think, they strike an emotional chord as well. I think you would find it difficult to find one person on this list who hasn't had at least one Rush track as a meaningful back drop to their life.
>Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:33:27 -0500 >From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
>no way, i say we make Petrucci a write in candidate :) With liberty, and >shredding for all :)
JP for Prez!?
OK, I'm in! Get me a green card! ;)
Cheers,
Rick Toronto
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