YTSEJAM Digest 1939
Today's Topics:
1) HELP HELP HELP DALLAS TEXAS G3 TOUR....help help
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
2) whatever
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
3) oh my lord, look what syrinx got in the mail.
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
4) fun shtuff
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
5) DT in the morning, better than Caffeine!!!
by BLevy@aol.com
6) Re: help with Tori Amos
by Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
7) Politics
by "Kevin W. Madden" <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
8) The brand new jam vet
by "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
9) Re: new Tool - dare I say prog? (nDTc)
by saveur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
10) covers/fates/tori/free beer/tool
by saveur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
11) Re: covers/fates/tori/free beer/tool
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
12) Misc. Answers
by "Art Hayes" <arthayes@clover.net>
13) check this one out...
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
14) That funky anagram
by Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net>
15) 92.5 (fwd)
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
16) Re: 92.5 (fwd)
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:07:08 -0500
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: HELP HELP HELP DALLAS TEXAS G3 TOUR....help help
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.10.17.15.7.8.14869.16988@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
Hey all,
I want to go to the G3 TOUR in Dallas on OCT 20th. I called
ticket master, and the show was SOLD OUT. :(
Does anyone know where I can get 2 tickets for the show?
I am going to Dallas from Kansas City.
take care,
todd s
I know there are "ticket resellers" in the city, I just don't know
any of them.
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:30:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: whatever
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961017162323.10201C-100000@bdmserver>
al balkewicz wrote:
> Not a bad trader in general - just to you. Ass-kicking should
> not be in order just yet, Pat should be getting a gift in the mail
> very soon - and no its not shit or bombs or anything like that...:)
Whatever... How many times have I heard that in the last, what is it 2
years or so? I dont even know what tapes I wanted from you. I dont even
know what address you have for me since I have moved a few times. Come to
think of it I dont know if I even care at all...
You've gotten a pretty bad rap her on the jam since you have been off it.
Everyone feels that it is well deserved. Anyone who trades with you has
got to be out of their mind.
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| Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
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| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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| Hail to the Redskins 5-1 ************** Go DC United |
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:44:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Yitz-see-jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: oh my lord, look what syrinx got in the mail.
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961017164342.7257A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
howdy, kids.
so, i walk in from work, and there's a package sitting in my
mailbox.
it's carpe diem.
after having a mild seizure, i open it up. it's #84. it's
awsome artwork. i'm listening to it right now (just put it on), but i
wanted to tell the masses that i have it.
be afraid. :)
-----------------------------------------------
Michael B. Ostrich - musical advisor/consultant
email: syrinx@dreamt.org
mostrich@worldnet.att.net
syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
"..and once you gift the gift away there's nothing you can do
about it. nothing that you do or say can change the way i feel about
it. try to look inside of me to find the gift that i am giving. glad
you had a chance to see the gift that i'm delivering."
- bob mould.
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:46:19 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: fun shtuff
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961017214619.0069e2ec@mail.inlink.com>
hey, i was just kind of sitting down thinking, you know how you always kind
of jump back in shock whenever you see a .jpg of someone you've known for a
while for the first time? it'd be a blast to hear what kind of mental
picture everyone has of the jammers they havent seen pictures of or in
person yet.. i bet we'd hear a lot of interesting things too :) get those
imaginations flowing or something :)
~Rip
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:54:31 -0400
From: BLevy@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT in the morning, better than Caffeine!!!
Message-ID: <961017175430_545432563@emout09.mail.aol.com>
Hey all,
Me again, I wanted to let everyone know that radio is not dead, just in ICU.
Over the last couple of weeks I have been hearing both PMU and LIE on the
ONLY radio station I listen to here in NJ, WSOU. I did not think it worthy
of sharing this info as both are not new to the radio. In fact, were it not
for PMU being played on mainstream radio 4 years ago, I would not be here
now, but I digress. Now in the last week, twice in the morning, on my way to
work (which is only ten minutes away) I have been blessed with PMU to jam to
on the way to work. Today, halfway to work, get this, they played
Metropolis!!!! It starts, and I am thinking no big deal, I know this song,
then it hits me, this is DT, this is Metropolis, this is ON THE AIR!!! I
crank my horrible car stereo and jam into the parking lot, but of course it
aint over yet, so I just sit in the car and jam. Who cares if I am 10
minutes late!!!
There is NOTHING like LOUD, HIGH energy music to get you in the right mood in
the morning. Unfortunately, working a helpdesk, it does not take long to be
brought back down to earth, but it is great while the mood lasts.
Just thought I would share that with y'all; I'm SURE some of you can relate.
L8R,
Brian
IN CD Player-- KMFDM--XTORT
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:51:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: help with Tori Amos
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.961017184421.12368C-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>
On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Abu Shams M. Ahmed wrote:
> since everyone is talking about Tori Amos, can anyone tell me
> which album would be good to start with and what to expect??
Start off with "little earthquakes." That's her 1st official CD and it's
her best.
> is it true that JM was a voilin player???
Yes. He played the violin for 12 years before deciding to take up the
bass.
Brandon (Taco Belhai)
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:49:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Kevin W. Madden" <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
To: Telly Savalas <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Politics
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961017194723.33bf88f0@pop.pipeline.com>
I noticed that people have started making political statements.
(Syrinx, Pat, etc.) Please refrain from doing so. I think that
it would be better for everyone if we were to just leave it alone;
you know whom you like - you aren't going to convince anyone to switch
his vote based on a measly post. This was not meant to be inflammatory-
only to head it off at the pass. I begrudge no one his political opinions, I
just have the feeling that it would be inappropriate material for this list.
Feel free to comment via e-mail...
Kevin
The First Law of the Theory of Fecal Gravitation:
"Shit rolls downhill"
-apologies to SJ Cannell
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:01:21 -0600
From: "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The brand new jam vet
Message-ID: <m0vE2Nt-000TXdC@mis01.micron.net>
To the guy that's managed to start up another flame war: If you're so
interested in other people's opinions about which album is everybody's
favorite, etc., why don't you look on the net? There's tons of polls
about which songs are the best, which albums are the best, which dude in
the band is the best, (all opinions of course, perhaps I shouldn't have
used the word "best") Just trying to save you some trouble.
I agree with D-man. Being a Ytsevet myself, I'd say that he represents the
whole pretty well.
What's the deal with Rupp?!?
Craig Wuthrich
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:48:47 -0400
From: saveur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: new Tool - dare I say prog? (nDTc)
Message-ID: <3.0b34.32.19961017214338.0075ab04@cais.cais.com>
At 08:52 AM 10/16/96 -0700, Paul T. Fini wrote:
>The new Tool album, Aenima, is simply one of the most impressive albums I
>have heard all year (another one being Superior, of course). The=
complexity,
[...snip...]
amen, brother.
>On the 'jam we've never discussed Tool as a "prog" band (please - no ad
nauseum
>discussion on what constitutes prog), and in fact we haven't discussed them
>much at all. How many of you are familiar with their music? If Aenima is
there's a few of us here. i know of at least 1 other jammer who suffers
thru the tool-list as well (hey Dr. Teeth :) and i'm sure there's a couple
more.
>any indication of the direction they're taking, we will probably see more
>discussion of them here. I'll venture to say that on this album you'll=
hear
>flavors of Soundgarden, Black Sabbath, a wee bit Pantera, and a lot of=
sounds
>uniquely Tool.
add to that: influences from Led Zep, Yes, Pink Floyd; a bit of industrial
feel; a new bassist who stands OUT rather than hides (impossible to hide
the bass in TooL); and David Bottrill producing.
i've always held that TooL displays a few prog elements on their previous
releases and =C6nima takes those a step further: odd time signatures, fukd-u=
p
progressions/rhythms, sheer song length and structure, different levels of
meaning, fuk-w/-yer-mind artwork...they kik ass, nok radz, rukn fok..
buy it. (that means u 2 ryan ;)
"Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning. A
non-functioning mind is clinically dead. =B7 Believe in nothing..."
j . c h r i s t i a n j j e n s @ g m u . e d u
e
n
s h t t p : / / w w w . c a i s . n e t / j j e n s /
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:48:43 -0400
From: saveur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: covers/fates/tori/free beer/tool
Message-ID: <3.0b34.32.19961017212440.006f99d8@cais.cais.com>
hey 'Jammers,
just a coupla things...
+ <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) asked:
>I was just wondering if anyone has ever seen a DT cover band or heard
someone=20
>covering a DT song.=20
my band covers PMU. woo.
+ "James Abraham" <omman@uit.net> asked:
>3. What's up with Kevin? Is he joining Fates? I don't know how I feel
>about
>that. The only fates album I have is Parallels and I'm pretty well
>ambivalent towards
>it. Is there a better FW album some one can recommend to me?
try reading Dr. Mosh's FW Listening Guide -available soon at my FW page.=
cha.
>5. What's the rumor about this 60 minute long FW song? And which album
>has "Ivory Gates of Heaven" on it?
the 60 min (or so. i've heard 53 and 56 mins as well) is supposed to be the
new album that ppl keep posting bits of info about. really sux Joe's not
playing on it :\=20
i dunno which album "Ivory Gates of Heaven" is on...but "Ivory Gate of
Dreams" is on FW's album No Exit :)
+ "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" <mmahmed@mtu.edu> asked:
>since everyone is talking about Tori Amos, can anyone tell me=20
>which album would be good to start with and what to expect??
i always recommend starting w/ Little Earthquakes, her first album. as
fellow #ytsejam addict, ryan, discovered recently, expect to be blown away.
Tori's a lyrical and musical deity.
+ buy TooL - =C6nima
j . c h r i s t i a n j j e n s @ g m u . e d u
e
n
s h t t p : / / w w w . c a i s . n e t / j j e n s /
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 22:36:42 -0400 (AST)
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: covers/fates/tori/free beer/tool
Message-ID: <199610180236.WAA15087@mail.caribe.net>
At 06:55 PM 10/17/96 -0700, you wrote:
>
>hey 'Jammers,
>just a coupla things...
>
>+ <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) asked:
>>I was just wondering if anyone has ever seen a DT cover band or heard
>someone=20
>>covering a DT song.=20
>
>my band covers PMU. woo.
>
>My friends band covers pull me under..and lie.. and theres a band here in
PR called Dreamline (ironic huh) that is a Dt/rush cover band
We Can Learn From the past..but those days are gone..
We can hope for the future..but there may not be one...
\ / \ /
\ / \ /
\\ \/ \| //
\\/ \/
\\ //
|| DREAM THEATER: A CHANGE OF SEASONS ||
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 23:04:06 -0000
From: "Art Hayes" <arthayes@clover.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Misc. Answers
Message-ID: <03120138902215@clover.net>
Here are some answers for all that I might actually know!
1. I heard a rumor that Portnoy said at a clinic that Metropolis
part 2 is done. Is it true, and if it is will it be on their next album?
I saw Mikes clinic in Ohio a couple months ago and at that time he said
that 'yes' Metropolis 2 would definitely be on the next album.....
2. Whoa! The track listing for their next album seems to be 90+ minutes.
what do you think, do you think we can convince them to go ahead and
make it a 2-CD set (A dream come true!!) or do you think they'll cut out
some
of the music?
At the same time Mike said that, while they would like to put out a double
album, the label was a little reluctant, but the band still had
hopes....waddaya say all? Should we flex our considerable influence and
let the label know what we think?
5. What's the rumor about this 60 minute long FW song? And which album
has "Ivory Gates of Heaven" on it?
The tune 'The Ivory gate Of Dreams' is off the No Exit CD. It runs 21:25
and is presented in eight movements. IMO this album isn't that great for
various reasons and I much prefer 'Parallels'. But I don't think anyone
should try to compare FW to DT. Just take FW for what they are, enjoy the
music and hope that DT will be around as long as they have been!!!
Draven (formerly Art)......
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 96 21:22:52 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: check this one out...
Message-ID: <9610180422.AA13808@tengs1>
>I am creating a music site of peoples' TOP 5 Records (or CDs) of all time.
>If you would email me with "TOP 5" in the subject and then your list I will
>then post all of them on a master page.
>Try to use line breaks between each item.
>For example:
>1. Rolling Stones - Goat's Head Soup
>2. Jimmy Smith - The Cat
>3. Curtis Mayfield - Curtis Live
>etc., etc.
>I would appreciate putting just your first name and state at the top of your list.
>
>**YOUR ADDRESS WILL NOT BE SOLD TO ANY LIST OR USED FOR MARKETING**
>I will notify everyone that participates when the page is done.
email to: planet@tiac.net
enjoy!
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 96 21:36:17 -0000
From: Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net>
To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: That funky anagram
Message-ID: <199610180433.VAA14285@pawn.ax.com>
Brandon decreed the following in Ytsejam #1938:
>The anagram poster forgot to include "my porno kite" for Mike Portnoy.
>Where's my porno kite? I WANT MY PORNO KITE!!!!!!
Were you the guy who used to put "my porno kite" in as their "real name"
line? Sheesh, for the longest time, I couldn't figure out what the heck
that meant! <g>
Jen
o.-.o For millions of years mankind lived just like animals.
((^)) Then something happened which unleashed the power of our
O) _ (O imagination...we learned to talk. (Steven Hawking)
O/ \O
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:54:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: 92.5 (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.961017215008.122995B-100000@homer11.u.washington.edu>
Thought some of you might enjoy this little exchange. Venom's reply
follows this post...
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:26:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Venom <*******@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: 92.5
This number represents:
A. My present body temperature.
B. The number of notes Yngwie Malmsteen can play during the time it takes
the average civilian to open a can of Diet Coke.
C. The total running time Dream Theater currently has for their new album
due out next February.
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:57:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: 92.5 (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.961017215505.122995C-100000@homer11.u.washington.edu>
Here's his reply. It helps if you've heard The Jerky Boys. And this is NOT
from an actual interview, by the way... ;)
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:31:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Venom <*******@wam.umd.edu>
To: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: 92.5
Guitar Player : "So, John, we've heard that there's going to be a lot of
fancy guitar work on the new project. Anything we haven't heard before?"
John Petrucci : "Hell yeah! I spent all the time we were supposed to be
recording this one making up new techniques for the guitar. I can play
circles around you guys!"
GP : "Uhh... Yeah. Well we also heard that this is going to be
jam-packed with music. Are you going to top the 75-minute `Awake' album?"
JP : "Fuckin'a right! After I made up all those new techniques I just
grabbed the band by the balls and went into the studio -- without the
producer. We've been in there since June recording every note of our
jams, our practices, even some live shows we did when we got bored. We've
been recording fifty to sixty hours of material a week! I'm negotiating
with the label right now over how much of it will make the new album, but
I'm pushing hard for a 7-10 CD box set -- yeah, all new shit, too!"
GP : "What does the label think of that?"
JP : "Yeah... well I had some problems with that. The label rep says to
me, 'nobody's gonna pay $100 for your new album.' So I slam his face into
the desk and I say 'you make this fuckin' album or I'll break your fuckin'
head!' Yeah, I think I got their attention."
GP : "Well John... that's just super... To change the subject, how has
the band been holding up...uhh emotionally."
JP : "Well I'm feeling great! I mean I stopped sleeping a couple of
months ago and that gave me a lot more time to write music and practice,
especially with those 8 hour studio sessions every day. Mike loves
it...he's a real animal. That guy's been taking some vitamins and speed
and shit, some protein powder... All kinds of stuff. You should see him
-- with all that drumming he looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger.. He's the
one that got me on to the no-sleep thing in the first place.
"As for John and Derek, they're hangin' in there. I gave them the day
off today, and I let them sleep when they're not in the studio. It's kind
of rough on them, but they're real troopers.
"I'll tell who we got to watch, though, is James. I give him every
other day off, 'cause after eight hours of screamin' like a demon he
sounds like I ran his mic through a couple of Mesa Boogie TriAxises! But
after a day's rest he's good for at least one ballad."
GP : "Speaking of ballads, what's the new album going to sound like."
JP : "Everything...and nothing you've ever heard. I mean it. No matter
what kind of music you listen to there'll be at least three songs of that
type on the new album. Derek did some techno, we got country, blues, I
brought in Wynton Marsalis and put down a couple day's worth of jazz stuff
I've been writing. Metal, Thrash, Rock, Pop -- Alanis sat in for one of
our live shows. But I'll tell you one thing: every minute of this stuff
is original. I even punched Wynton in the face when he tried to quote
Miles Davis' during a solo... Yeah that was the last track I did with
him. I really should apologize, but it's so important to me that this be
brand new. This is going to be the single most important work in the
history of music.
"It's supposed to be a secret... but I'll let you in anyway. The
band kind of got sick of this at the beginning of August so I let them
take a couple weeks...well, really the whole month off. But anyway,
during that time I recorded my first nine symphonies with several
different orchestras, Atlanta, Chicago...well, I went through a lot
because they didn't like my conducting -- lazy morons. Those guys can't
sit still for more than four hours at a time... But anyway, at least four
of the nine of them will be on the new album.."
GP : "That was a joke, right?"
JP : "What was a joke? Those symphony players being lazy? No, they're
lazy as shit! If I could play 100 instruments at the same time I wouldn't
need those guys at all."
GP : "Nevermind, I guess it wasn't. Scary. You're a scary guy John."
JP : "Wait 'till you hear the 12-tone stuff!
GP : ...
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