YTSEJAM digest 1938

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Thu Oct 17 1996 - 16:07:14 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1938

    Today's Topics:

      1) Another happy Clockwork camper
     by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
      2) Group behavior...
     by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
      3) Con Video Tapes, G3, MP clinic.....
     by Ryan Webb <ryanwebb@earthlink.net>
      4) Darker side of life
     by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
      5) We're in Time Warp
     by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
      6) Imus in the merrrrrrrrrning
     by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
      7) DT fan club address request
     by Big.Swifty@twav.com
      8) Uncertainty Theory...
     by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
      9) A lot of Stuff... Read this.
     by Nick Guadagnoli <nguadagn@acme.csusb.edu>
     10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1933
     by "James Abraham" <omman@uit.net>
     11) Re: you asked for it...
     by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
     12) anagram fun :)
     by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
     13) Mike Portnoy anagram
     by Taco Belhai <belhai@drew.edu>
     14) help with Tori Amos
     by "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" <mmahmed@mtu.edu>
     15) Rick Audet's Reply to (I&W or ACOS)
     by Jeremy Schwartzberg <jeremy@gator.net>
     16) Re: Please stop
     by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
     17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1937
     by edwilk@juno.com (Ed J Wilk III)
     18) ** New Ytsejam Tshirts **
     by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:44:08 +0000
    From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Another happy Clockwork camper
    Message-ID: <32663828.1CFB@mailstorm.dot.gov>

    Just got the new Clockwork in the mail. Good stuff! I'll be buying the
    new CD.

    Regards,

    Jon
     
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    | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 |
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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:15:29 +0000
    From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
    To: Ytse NOSES <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Group behavior...
    Message-ID: <32663F81.FF6@mailstorm.dot.gov>

    The ones who help to set the mood wrote:

    > Again, "we"? I was talking to and about Carlos.

    And D-man was talking about US. No, he doesn't have multiple
    personalities, but I'm sure he appreciates the concern you have and
    thanks you for asking. Why is it so hard to grasp the concept; or are
    you only concerned with what YOU'RE trying to say and not with what
    WE'RE trying to say?

    Sometimes the delivery ain't the smoothest but the pitch is still a good
    one. If people were perfect all of the time, no one would get upset
    about anything and the response would always be correct and not press
    anyone's buttons. Learning to allow things to bounce off your shoulders
    is where it starts

    In all seriousness :), I think D-man was trying to be civil, but you
    seemed to be in "Stomp all over Carlos mode" still. And besides, I've
    already told you that ACoS is the best already :) Damnit, D-man put the
    fucker in the FAQ or I will drive on up to UVM and have your admissions
    records seized!!!!

    Regards,

    Jon

    Maintainer of the Holy Hand Grenade

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    | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 |
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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:35:44 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Ryan Webb <ryanwebb@earthlink.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Con Video Tapes, G3, MP clinic.....
    Message-ID: <199610171435.HAA14078@germany.it.earthlink.net>

    Hey everybody,

    Yes, I did video tape Ytsecon III this past weekend...anyone
    who wants one, can have a copy of it. I got probably an hours worth
    of stuff, the first half is Rob and Mike playing their acoustic set..
    (It was great, btw) The rest of it is just the camera being taken
    around the room, filming all the jammers that were there. Some of the
    films is a bit shakey, and this is not even close to a professional job.
    A friend of mine actually did most of the filming, so that i could mingle.
    (there's one part that I didn't even know the damn thing was on....)
    Anyway, if anyone wants a copy, all I ask is that you send about 5 bucks,
    so that I can cover the cost of the tape, and shipping.....Please send it to:

    Ryan Webb
    5301-92nd St.
    Lubbock, TX 79424

    Also include your return address, and please e-mail me to let me know that
    you'll be sending a check. Thanks :)

    Now, on to my thoughts of the con.....
    I had a great time this past weekend....sure, I was a bit dissapointed that
    no one from the band showed up, but thats not what it was all about. I
    really enjoyed meeting the jammers there, especially the ones that I've
    gotten to know really well on irc. Finally got to meet Ibanez, Wisha,
    D-man, Augie, Pellaz, Syrinx, Mike Bahr, Jeff Chew, WilsonCat, and a ton of
    others I can't think of now...I have never seen so many CD's sold in such a
    short amount of time..hehe..by the time I moved from the back of the room,
    to where Mike Bahr was selling, most everything was gone...damn, oh
    well....After it was all over, Ibanez, Charone, WilsonCat and his g/f,
    Zimbob, Emre, and myself all went to downtown Manhatten....that was sure an
    experience...it was a nice place to visit and all, but I'm glad as hell I
    don't live there..haha..Many thanks go out to Jeff Chew, and his staff for
    putting this thing together. I can't even imagine all of the hard work that
    went into pulling this off... Thanks again Jeff :)
    I can't wait till the next con...for all you that didn't make it, I would
    strongly recommend trying to make it to the next one, wether DT is gonna
    show or not, it's a lot of fun...Oh, and the ytsejam T-shirts by Gabbo,
    those are great!!!! If he still has any left, ya'll should order them, you
    won't be dissapointed!! well shit, this is getting long....

    now onto G3
    I'll be going to the G3 show this Sunday (oct. 20th) in Dallas Texas..
    Anyone else going to this one?? I'll be wearing my new Ytsejam T-shirt
    (thanks Pat)...and I'll be most likely right up front, (since this is a
    general admission show) I can't wait for this....from what everyone else
    has been saying, it looks like one awesome concert.. Is Sheperd boy still
    opening?? or was that just for the first few shows?? Oh, and Saturday
    morning, I'll be going to a guitar showcase, and Satch and EJ are supposed
    to be there...it'll be cool :)

    one more thing..hehe
    I'll also be going to the Mike Portnoy clinic in Dallas on Nov. 9th...any one
    else going? again, I'll be wearing the same ytsejam shirt(yes, I'll wash
    it), and will most likely video tape the clinic also. can't wait to hear
    some of the new material :) (I'll also copy this one for anyone that wants
    the tape:)

    Ok...finally, I'm done

    later everybody!!

    Ryan
     

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 96 16:41:29 +0200
    From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de
    Subject: Darker side of life
    Message-ID: <9610171441.AA00308@sundoc13.software-ag.de>

    Hi all

    the straps on my strait jacket have been loosened for a couple of minutes to
    allow me to pass on two CD tips for those of you who, like myself, like some
    of the darker and more melancholy music that is around:

    MY DYING BRIDE - Like Gods Of The Sun

    The long-awaited follow-up to their successful album 'The Angel And The Dark
    River'. The wait was well worth it. The music is heavy, dark and almost
    threatening, backed up by some good drumming and symphonic keyboards, plus of
    course, the mourning violin. The vocals are cleaner and clearer than in the
    past, too. Look out for the tracks 'A Kiss To Remember' and 'For My Fallen
    Angel'.

    ELEND - Les Tenebres Du Dehors

    This band continues where The 3rd And The Mortal or Theatre Of Tragedy stop.
    No guitars, no drums, just keyboards, violins, 2 sopranos and screams. It's
    almost impossible to pigeon-hole this music: gothic/classical/doom/new age/
    simply beautiful. Very sad and almost tragic, very expressive and emotional.
    This album is a must for anybody who likes to get goose pimples even when the
    central heating is turned full up. Warning: if you're feeling suicidal, playing
    this album could just possibly cause you to jump... Those two sopranos are
    just amazing though. Also good if any of you school kids want to brush up on
    your Latin.

    Obligatory mininal Dream Theater content: Dream Theater is *not* an anagram
    of Majesty.

    Obligatory cocktail receipe with mininal Dream Theater content. The Ytsedypso
    proudly presents:

    LONG ISLAND ICED TEA (well, the band come from Long Island, don't they?)

    1/2 measure vodka
    1/2 measure gin
    1/2 measure white rum
    1/2 meaure tequila
    1/2 measure triple sec
    dash of coke (the liquid sort, certainly not the white powdery stuff)

    Pour the spirits into a tall glass and add coke to fill. Enjoy carefully.
    Consult your physician before drinking a second one.

    Time to put the jacket back on, I think. There's a big pink elephant outside
    trying to sell me a Blind Melon album.

    stay safe and happy listening
    Neil Gallop
    (nga@software-ag.de)
    Currently playing: ELEND - Les Tenebres Du Dehors

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:43:59 +0000
    From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: We're in Time Warp
    Message-ID: <3266462F.ABD@mailstorm.dot.gov>

    > If my memory serves me correctly ACOS was written (at least the original
    > arrangement) in the late 80s-early 90s. In fact it was going to be on
    > Images and Words but was dropped. This being the case does it mean that
    > Dream Theater took a step back with Awake?

    You're absolutely right. I was thinking more of the releasure time.
    Didn't they spend time re-working parts? For me, every aspect got better
    with that release, especially the sound production.

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:46:36 +0000
    From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Imus in the merrrrrrrrrning
    Message-ID: <326646CC.31DF@mailstorm.dot.gov>

    > And to the person promoting Clinton: ARE YOU NUTS????

    Vote for that old guy, Robert Dole
    Bubba Clinton's bought to lose control............

    NOT!

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    | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 |
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    Date: 17 Oct 1996 10:54:58 CDT
    From: Big.Swifty@twav.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: DT fan club address request
    Message-ID: <199610171600.JAA02279@pawn.ax.com>

    YT>Joe also mentioned aobut joining the DT Fan Club. I agree. Do it. Cough
    YT>up the $15. You'll be sorry if you didn't. :D
    I've been having server problems, and that means I haven't been getting
    some 'jams. Could someone either email me or post some information about
    how to join this fan club? I'll be sorry if you don't :)
    *******
    YT>> > PS - NY Yankees in 5!!!
    YT>> >
    5 what? Years?
    *******
    Thanks all,
    Mark Peters
    big.swifty@twav.com
    PS - great idea about snipping blank lines, Chris Ptacek

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:55:32 -0700
    From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Uncertainty Theory...
    Message-ID: <199610171555.IAA13320@main.cfmc.com>

    Coupla things....

    Dan's the resident Galactic Cowboys expert, so I do this with some
    trepidation, but I think I'd disagree with the notion that "Machine Fish" is
    more "laid back" than the first two albums. I'd say it's a more aggressive,
    noisier record. Not bad, but I don't relate to it in the same way.

    I DO agree with the "Space In Your Face" assessment. It's their best, I'd
    say, and "Still Life Of Peace" is wonderful. I'd rank the four this way:

    1. Space In Your Face
    2. Galactic Cowboys
    3. Machine Fish
    4. Feel The Rage

    ..they're all outstanding, though.

    Damn....don't remember the other thing. I'm sure I'll remember later.

    Adam D. Barnhart
    adamb@cfmc.com
    ydnt85a@prodigy.com

    Five Gratuitous CD's:
    =====================
    1. Rush: Test For Echo
    2. Soundgarden: Superunknown
    3. Bad Religion: The Gray Race
    4. Tori Amos: Boys For Pele
    5. Live: Mental Jewelry

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:26:14 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Nick Guadagnoli <nguadagn@acme.csusb.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: A lot of Stuff... Read this.
    Message-ID: <199610171626.JAA07662@acme.csusb.edu>

    The Nickster has a few replies to make:

    >I'll share my meaningless opinion on this, since no one else will. I&W is
    >what got me started on DT, so it has that "something special" about it. I
    >love every tune on that album, and it's a good thing it's on CD otherwise
    >I'd have picked up several (analog) copies to replace the ones that I
    >wore
    >out. As for ACOS, the tune itself might be my favorite DT tune of all
    >time,
    >but I'm a little bored with the covers. Sure, I still dig listening to
    >the
    >covers, but lately I find myself playing the ACOS disc just for ACOS,
    >then
    >putting something else on.

    ACoS is bitchin', and please realize that even if you're putting that disc
    in just for track one, you're listening to DT for 23 minutes... And
    listen to the covers with a different ear each time. You'll hear things
    that you didn't hear before.

    >> However, my real forte' is the keyboards... does ANYONE know of any
    >> transcripts (either in songbook form, or just put together and on the
    >web)
    >> of the keyboard parts for any DT stuff (especially I&W or Awake)?
    >
    >Me, too, It took me a longass time just trying to figure out how to
    >play Wait for Sleep. I have a friend with a program that can scan
    >midis and make Sheet music out of 'em, but I don't know how good it
    >is.

    If you guys need Keyboard or guitar transcripts, I'm pretty good at
    transcription... I'm not at Berklee or anything, but I am a music student
    and I can use the practice... Just remember that I may take a while, cuz
    homework comes first, and 32nd notes are really dense.

    >Welcome to the 'jam, Nick. But I have to give
    >you your first flame. That's like sacralige, dude. Don't steal from DT.

    Don't flame me yet, friend-- Like I said, I got caught, and then years
    later, my truck got broken into, and most of my CD collection was
    stolen... About $900 worth including all of my DT CD's save Awake. So I
    think karma caught up with me.

    >If my memory serves me correctly ACOS was written (at least the original
    >arrangement) in the late 80s-early 90s. In fact it was going to be on
    >Images and Words but was dropped. This being the case does it mean that
    >Dream Theater took a step back with Awake? I guess I will be hunted
    >down.
    >
    >Richard Warren
    >rwarren@memphisonline.com

    Richard-- your memory serves you correctly, but (!) ACoS was given a major
    rewrite, (lyrics, movements, and a lot of stuff for the SevenString)
    before it was recorded again. So you won't be hunted down... It just
    goes to show that a LITTLE bit of info can change a whole lot of
    knowledge.

    ProgressiveThanks,
              _ __
       ____ (_)____/ /__
      / __ \/ / ___/ //_/
     / / / / / /__/ ,<
    /_/ /_/_/\___/_/|_|

    The ProgRockBoy

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 11:03:46 -0500
    From: "James Abraham" <omman@uit.net>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1933
    Message-ID: <199610171733.MAA16595@dns.uit.net>

    Okay, it's been awhile so I have many questions......

    1. I heard a rumor that Portnoy said at a clinic that Metropolis
    part 2 is done. Is it true, and if it is will it be on their next album?

    2. Whoa! The track listing for their next album seems to be 90+ minutes.
    what do you think, do you think we can convince them to go ahead and
    make it a 2-CD set (A dream come true!!) or do you think they'll cut out
    some
    of the music?

    3. What's up with Kevin? Is he joining Fates? I don't know how I feel
    about
    that. The only fates album I have is Parallels and I'm pretty well
    ambivalent towards
    it. Is there a better FW album some one can recommend to me?

    4. Is the ChromaKey Tape still available?

    5. What's the rumor about this 60 minute long FW song? And which album
    has "Ivory Gates of Heaven" on it?

    Thanx guys!
    James

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:38:55 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: you asked for it...
    Message-ID: <199610171740.KAA03645@pawn.ax.com>

    >
    > > Someone asked about bad traders and well the bad traders I have come
    > > across are:
    > >
    > > Al Balkewicz
    > > lives in New Jersey
    >
    > hmmm/. i'm not too far from there. want me to kick his ass for ya? :)
    >

            Not a bad trader in general - just to you. Ass-kicking should
            not be in order just yet, Pat should be getting a gift in the mail
            very soon - and no its not shit or bombs or anything like that...:)

            Going to see I Mother Earth Fri. the 18th - should be kewl.

            New Korn rocks, as does new Marilyn Manson for those into them...

            Please flame me personally, God knows the Jammers have had enough
            ranting and raving to look at on the 'Jam.....

                                                    - Al Balkiewicz
                                                      vocals, Half Naked

    @#%^@#$%^@#$%@#$%#$%#$%#$^#$%^$%^$%^$%^#$%#$%#$%#$%#$%#$%#$#$%#%^
    | |
    | I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.... |
    | |
    #$%^#%&#%^$*%&*^&*%&(%^&(%^&*(%^&*(*%^&*$^&*#^%&#^*$%^&*#%^&*#$%&
    | Al Balkiewicz SEND MAIL HERE --->balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu |
    %@#$^@#$^@^%%$&#$&^*$%&*$&*$%^$&$%^&$%^*$^%&*$%^&*$%^*$%^&%$^&%$%

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:05:27 -0500
    From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
    To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: anagram fun :)
    Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961017180527.006cb194@mail.inlink.com>

    >Mike Portnoy: pork in my toe
    > perky motion
    > monkey to rip
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    eeeeeeeep! This really tempts me to fwd something to the jam but i wont
    just to save a few of your souls who might get aggrivated... :) SEND ALL
    YOUR MONKEYS TO ME!!!!! BWAHAHA!!!

                                                    ~Rip
                                 

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:19:32 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Taco Belhai <belhai@drew.edu>
    To: the cool people <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Mike Portnoy anagram
    Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.961017141823.629223496A-100000@drew.edu>

    Hey-

    The anagram poster forgot to include "my porno kite" for Mike Portnoy.
    Where's my porno kite? I WANT MY PORNO KITE!!!!!!

    Brandon (Taco Belhai)

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:48:41 -0400 (EDT)
    From: "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" <mmahmed@mtu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: help with Tori Amos
    Message-ID: <199610171848.OAA12807@icu18.csl.mtu.edu>

    hi all,

    since everyone is talking about Tori Amos, can anyone tell me
    which album would be good to start with and what to expect??

    on DT stuff ....

    is it true that JM was a voilin player???

    'later

    Minhaz

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:03:30 -0400
    From: Jeremy Schwartzberg <jeremy@gator.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Rick Audet's Reply to (I&W or ACOS)
    Message-ID: <32668302.1A21@gator.net>

    I totally agree with Rick in that Awake sounds more "mature" than
    I&W. DT seems to have a more developed sound, in a sense more
    professional sounding. I'm not knocking I&W because I love that album
    (especially Metropolis), but Awake sounds more like the sound DT has
    been working for. WDADU, on the other hand, is pretty crappy. The only
    songs worth listening to are YTSE, Fortune in Lies, and maybe The
    Killing Hand. The rest sound pretty cheesy. It's a really bad recording,
    the vocals suck, and the distortion just doesn't have the same punch as
    their more recent albums. Well, anyway, that's just my opinion.
    P.S. - Has anybody saw the Yngwie Malmsteen concert? I'm going to see
    him this Friday in Orlando.

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:49:03 -0400 (AST)
    From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Please stop
    Message-ID: <199610171949.PAA01715@mail.caribe.net>

    At 05:12 AM 10/17/96 -0700, you wrote:
    >Please stop sending mail at mamba@energy.it !
    >
    >unsubscribe...

                 We Can Learn From the past..but those days are gone..
                 We can hope for the future..but there may not be one...

                \ / \ /
                 \ / \ /
                  \\ \/ \| //
                   \\/ \/
                    \\ //
                    || DREAM THEATER: A CHANGE OF SEASONS ||
                    || ||
                    || ||

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:56:09 EDT
    From: edwilk@juno.com (Ed J Wilk III)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1937
    Message-ID: <19961017.155443.4831.0.EdWilk@juno.com>

    >But on another note, probably contrary to many Jammers' opinions, I
    think I
    >like Awake a bit more than I&W. With the exception of CiaW and IF, that
    >album is so amazingly 'nad rockin', as a fellow Jammer puts it, I just
    can't

            I find a lot of people are saying this. I'm going to have to
    borrow that CD from me friend Brett and really give it a good listen.

            Ed

    Thanks for the civil response, by the by.

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    Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:58:56 -0500 (CDT)
    From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
    To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: ** New Ytsejam Tshirts **
    Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.961017145734.18654B-100000@indy21.gclab.missouri.edu>

            +-------------------------------------------------------+
            | |
            | Ytsejam T-Shirts |
            | |
            +-------------------------------------------------------+

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ** new since last update * new in last two updates
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

    ** Well, the sales at YtseCon III went fairly well, thank you to everyone
    ** who bought a shirt. I've sold something like 70 shirts in all, which
    ** is a good start. I'm hoping that orders will pick up again soon, now
    ** that the Con has come and gone and things have calmed down a bit.

    ** I have the shirts in my possession now, they are sitting in three big
    ** boxes that take up too much space in my tiny dorm room. :) They all
    ** came out exceptionally well, better than I expected, in fact. Process
    ** jobs (printing color graphics one color at a time) are notorious for
    ** severely distorting the graphic, but in this case, it came out very
    ** true to the original.

    ** The shirts were premiered at the Con this past weekend, and everyone I
    ** talked to seems very happy with them. When I get the chance, I'll try
    ** to lift all the comments I have gotten on them and stick them on the
    ** Ytsejam Shirt web page.

    ** The first set of mail orders was shipped out yesterday. A total of 15
    ** orders were filled, including one airmail to Australia. Three orders
    ** were not filled because of sucky banking laws in Missouri (I can't cash
    ** a check in Columbia, because my savings account is in St. Louis!), but
    ** I've already taken steps to fix that situation, and those orders will
    ** ship out next Wednesday.

    =======
    Details
    =======

    The Ytsejam shirts are two sided prints. The front of the shirt features
    a *full color* raytraced graphic from Chris Hailey in Washington. The
    graphic is a beautifully done scene with the Majesty logo floating behind
    a group of marble columns on a tile floor with a wide view of space
    visible behind.

    The back of the shirt is in a solid light blue color. The majority
    of the design is a huge Majesty logo, framed by the Dream Theater title
    at the top, the mailing list address on the sides and "Ytsejam" at the
    bottom. Below that is "Internet Mailing List" between two more Majesty
    logos.

    ** The current lot of shirts is 217 (they printed up more than I asked
    ** for, but I'm not complaining). If those run out, and demand is high
    ** enough, I may run another with a slightly different design.

    You can check out all of the details, as well as a preview of the shirts at:
    http://www.cclabs.missouri.edu/~c675311/ytsejam/

    Please note: Due to some legal issues, the University will no longer allow
    me to keep this commercial advertisement on their server. To sidestep this
    issue, Chris Merlo was kind enough to put the page up on his account.
    Please go to the URL above and follow the link to the new site.

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    Pricing
    =======

    The cost of the shirts is $16 each. The shirt is damn close to concert
    quality, so $16 is a steal (last Dream Theater concert I was at charged
    $23 for a shirt!). If you require a size larger than XL, please let me
    know ASAP so I can get those orders in. There is an additional $1 charge
    for each size increase (ie. XXL = $17). If you are picking the shirt up
    from me directly the $16 price stands. If you can't get the shirt in
    person, you can order one through the mail for $20 to cover shipping.

    I spoke with the people at the post office and I've decided to set the
    shipping prices outside the USA at $9, for a total of $25. I realize
    this is damn expensive for a tshirt, and I'm sorry. If individual prices
    are signifigantly less expensive, I will gladly return a check for the
    balance.

    The rundown:
    M, L or XL shirt, picked up: $16
    M, L or XL shirt, mailed in the US: $20
    M, L or XL shirt, mailed outside the US: $25
    XXL add $1
    XXXL add $2

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    Availability
    ============

    Size: Sold: Reserved: Remaining: Total:
    ----- ----- --------- ---------- ------
    M 1 0 4 5
    L 16 1 22 39
    XL 45 0 102 147
    XXL 11 0 11 22
    XXXL 3 0 1 4
    ------ ----- --------- ---------- ------
    Totals 76 1 140 217

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    Ordering
    ========

    ** The shirts are open to mail ordering now. Mail orders will be shipped
    ** out every Wednesday via Priority Mail for US orders, and airmail for
    ** all others. Checks and money orders will be cashed before the order goes
    ** out, most likely on Monday. So far, mail orders have gone well, the only
    ** problem I have had has been with the bank, not the post office, so don't
    ** worry about your orders. All US orders are insured for the amount paid
    ** for the shirts and shipping, and insurance on airmail depends on the
    ** country and other aspects.

    To order, send a check or money order for the proper US dollar amount (see
    pricing above) to:

    Pat Griffin
    573A Hudson Hall
    1202 E. Rollins St.
    Columbia, MO 65201

    Make them payable to Pat Griffin, and remember this in US dollars.

    Be sure to include:
            Your name.
            Email address.
            Mailing address.
            Phone number.
            Quantity of shirts you want to order.
            The size of each.
            Whether this order is for pickup for mail order.

    I will keep you up to date on the status of the shirts through email.

    =============
    Miscellaneous
    =============

    Remember that all the info can be found online at:
    http://www.cclabs.missouri.edu/~c675311/ytsejam/

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    If you have any questions feel free to email me.

     
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