YTSEJAM Digest 1934
Today's Topics:
1) Atlantis
by "SchuBert" <H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl>
2) A few more Ytsecon comments
by psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
3) Re: your mail
by "Roland (Shred) Rupp" <al765518@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1933
by El Hombre de Panda <76262.3207@CompuServe.COM>
5) Verbal Outtakes
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
6)
by
7) TABS, was...Re: ...no subject...
by "Roland (Shred) Rupp" <al765518@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1933
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
9) KevMo
by John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com>
10) Con thoughts
by John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com>
11) Re: Marty Friedman "True Obsessions"
by "Roland (Shred) Rupp" <al765518@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
12) you asked for it...
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1932
by John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com>
14) "Anthem" covered on Yngwie Malmsteen's "Inspiration"
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
15) New Band
by Ryan_Rafaloff@tanagraphics.com (Ryan Rafaloff)
16) ACOS transcription, Tool
by "God of Thunder" <PILLSBUR@HUMnet.UCLA.EDU>
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:34:21 +0100 (MET)
From: "SchuBert" <H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Atlantis
Message-ID: <66863.H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl>
Hey, has anybody heard of a prog band called Atlantis? I've found their
Internet page through the DREG Records Home Page, and it said that they
should sound like DT and Rush, but with their own originality, or something.
Can anyone tell me if they're any good?
Love you all,
!!! !!!
!!!!! !!!! ! ! !!!!!
! !! !!! !! ! ! ! ! ! ! !!! ! ! !!! ! !!
!!!!! ! ! !! ! ! ! !! ! !! !! ! !!!!!
!!!!! !!! !! ! ! !! !!! !! ! !! !!!!!
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:40:39 -0400
From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A few more Ytsecon comments
Message-ID: <199610161645.MAA09166@uhura.ici.net>
I just realized the in my review of the con, I forgot the most important
thing - to thank and congratulate Jeff Chew for a job well done! Putting
together something of this magnitude had to have been a logistical
nightmare, but he came through (apparently) unscathed. He gets my vote for
MVJ (Most Valuable Jammer).
I also have questions for all the shutterbugs that were snapping away during
the con, particularly the people who took the IRC and Con group shots at the
end: Has anyone put those pictures up on the web yet? Is anyone *going* to
put them up? If so, please post the URL, because those are pictures I want
to see. :)
__<psull@ici.net>__http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html___
This space for rent...No pithy quotes need apply
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:36:02 -0600 (CST)
From: "Roland (Shred) Rupp" <al765518@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: your mail
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.961016113501.120451B-100000@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
Yse doesnt mean nothing...
but the Dream Theater's first name as a group was Majesty, if you read it
backwards is ytsejam, so there is Ytse-jam
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On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Michael G Ward Jr. wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I have a couple of questions:
> What's Ytse?
> What's the girl holding on the cover of "Images and Words"?
> How can I obtain bootleg videos of Rush and/or Yes's last tour? I'm interested
> in a full stage view, because of the awesome lighting.
> Does anyone agree with Dyslexo that "A Change of Seasons" was happening around
> 1989?
> Later on,
> Michael Ward
> <mgward@mindspring.com>
>
>
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Date: 16 Oct 96 12:54:56 EDT
From: El Hombre de Panda <76262.3207@CompuServe.COM>
To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1933
Message-ID: <961016165456_76262.3207_GHM119-1@CompuServe.COM>
>Now onto the Dream Theater stuff. I would like to propose that everyone write
>to Guitar School magazine requesting "A Change Of Seasons" transcription. I
>have written to them before and they definitely respond to user requests if
>there is enough interest.
Hee hee, too bad for you in the US!!! Just to make you jealous... <since I'm
already quite jealous for you who are in the US, for other reasons ie
transportation costs instrument costs etc. etc....>... In Japan they released a
full band score of ACOS, including all the instrument parts....
<yeah the keyboard and vocal transcription parts suck but those two are obvious
enough for the most part...>...
PMan
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:47:24 -0700
From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Verbal Outtakes
Message-ID: <199610161647.JAA16864@main.cfmc.com>
>From: "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
>
>Anyone ever notice how R&B and hip-hop sounds like old Motown stuff, TLC
>sounds like rewritten Supremes stuff, and Nirvana and the like sound like
>rewritten Jimi Hendrix and stuff? I don't think it's experimentation, all
of that
>stuff was done in the 60's and 70's. Just like the guy I saw in the
>sagging, olive green, courderoy, stovepipe pants and the bright
>orange hunting shirt at Taco Bell the other day. I've got a better idea.
>Just tattoo "Give Me Some Attention" across your forehead. Retro
>sux, I heard the 60's sucked the first time.
Hmmmm....you hear this kind of thing sometimes and I've gotta say I just
don't agree. Contemporary R&B sounds very little like old Motown, to my
ears. I just can't get jazzed up about R. Kelly and Boyz II Men and that
whole bit while there are perfectly good Marvin Gaye tunes out there. I
don't like the production much, to be honest. Just sounds too canned to my
ears. Rap is different still, with a completely different ethos. And, in
all honesty, there ISN'T anything in the 60's that really equates to, say,
Public Enemy.
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I'm not into any nostalgia trip, but remember, the people who are most fixed
on the notion of the 90's reliving the 60's or 70's are people who are of an
age where they're equating what's happening now to what's happening in their
youth. And, most often, it's just another form of deprecation. Not
always....there certainly ARE similarities between some of the Classic Rock
bands and the contemporary Alternative bands, but I don't think most of us
are reliving a past (no comment on the Black Crowes)....
Adam D. Barnhart
adamb@cfmc.com
ydnt85a@prodigy.com
Five Gratuitous CD's:
=====================
1. Rush: Test For Echo
2. Shadow Gallery: Carved In Stone
3. Jethro Tull: Catfish Rising
4. Pearl Jam: Ten
5. Galactic Cowboys: Feel The Rage
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:39:20 -0600 (CST)
From: "Roland (Shred) Rupp" <al765518@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: TABS, was...Re: ...no subject...
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.961016113807.120451C-100000@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
What happened with all the tabs in the FTP servers_?
I want Dream Theater tabs!
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On Wed, 16 Oct 1996 CNG@tcco.com wrote:
> >Pat said.....
> >"It is a shame that the yankees need a 12 year old and a blind ump to win
> >a game..."
>
> That was a SINGLE PLAY out of hundreds! In that game alone, they had over 12
> at bats to win the game and they blew it. Face it, the O's are a good team,
> but they're still the second place wildcard.
>
> Now onto the Dream Theater stuff. I would like to propose that everyone write
> to Guitar School magazine requesting "A Change Of Seasons" transcription. I
> have written to them before and they definitely respond to user requests if
> there is enough interest.
>
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:08:57 -0500
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1933
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961016170857.006d8f90@enteract.com>
>I'd
>love to know what else Vai is going to do from "Fire Garden."
If you can wait till November 2nd, I'll sum up the whole
experience as only a fellow shredder can.
>From: svjohnson@amoco.com
>Subject: DT on Oprah?
> Someone wrote:
>
>>Hell, I'd be proud as hell if DT were on Oprah.
> Another sign that the apocalypse is upon us (Thanks _Sports
> Illustrated_)?
Heh. I like the sound of that.
> I think Oprah is an excellent example of the medioctrity America's
> general population puts up with/accepts. I would also hate to see DT
> appear in People magazine or as cameos on "Friends" (a show that
> hasn't been very funny since its rookie season). It is all the same
> lowest-common-denomenator entertainment. Just like Stephen King is
> the McDonald's of literature.
This is a silly arguement. My Oprah comment was a
joke... but to some people, that's a valid forum for discussion. Oprah is
(though I'm not big into talk shows that don't involve mutants with 3 arms
n' stuff) a cut above your Jerry Springers and the likes. There's nothing
mediocre about a woman who is intelligent enough to harness the power of a
talk show to help people AND to become one of the most disgustingly rich
people in the world. Further, though I don't watch Friends or tv much at
all anymore (except X Files and the occaisional Sliders) I think it would be
GREAT for them to be on ANYWHERE. I am above putting people down because of
the shows they watch and or the shows they appear on. If DT were on General
Hospital, you better believe I'll watch.
> I can see Bush, Pres. USA, George Michael, etc. joining Oprah. These
> are the artists most of America will accept as excellent.
This is silly too. We all have things we loathe. If
this is what get's your goat, then that's cool. I just think you've missed
the point that it was more a joke than a wish.
> Is this sounding elitist? Yes. Am I slamming these kinds of artists
> or their listeners? No. I like some of George Michael's stuff (don't
> spend my money on it, though). I just don't want DT grouped there.
An understandable desire, but an unneccesary concern.
Dale:
>BTW, WTF is G3 (3 guitarists)?
I will assume you don't know that it's Satriani, Vai,
and Eric Johnson (Along with Adrian Legg and Mike Keneally!). If you mean
"Hey... that's a really gay name, and I could have come up with something
better than that while watching my dog lick itself" then you're probably right.
>> Yeah.. i started with inside out.. and i have to say im not too
>>thrilled about Fates,i mean i like em ..but i prefer SG or Lemur
>>Voice..i think because they sound closer to Dt than FW,and dt-likeness
>>is what i was looking for.. and yeah..Monument is my fave FW song..also
>>Outside Looking In..and leave the past behind..
FW have been around long before DT, and are not
supposed to sound like DT. They share the same genre though, so I
understand the comparison.
>Go for Perfect Symmetry instead of No Exit and Parallels instead of Inside
>Out. They're both respectively better. You can go for IO and NE if you like
>the others.
A Hip-Hop friend of mine said that IO is some of the
best music he's ever heard. Totally listenable metal. Still, I think
that's good advice. A DT fan will PROBABLY like the albums in that order
at first. My fav is IO though. (And don't think there's ANYTHING Hip
Hoppie about that album... it was just an interesting thing to hear from a
hip hopper)
>>>Oh god, i've been calling them levver voice a in lemm-er voice. Is it really
>>>leemer?
>I wonder if someone please could get it sampled into a .wav-file.
>Because this ain't helping at all.
> We all read in different things in those letters, due to our different
>nationalities and stuff.
You don't need a wave. Lee Mer... Lee rhymes with
glee, or he/she/we and Mer rhymes with fur, or purr or slur, or murder.
Good enough?
Hasta.
(P.S. I knocked out a lot of blank lines to save space. If this looks real
cluttered to anyone, write me... otherwise I'll do this from now on.)
"I'm afraid of politicians who have no hobbies." - A.R.U.
Christopher Ptacek EnterAct, L.L.C. We don't suck.
We now have proof.
http://www.enteract.com (312) 248-8511
"#1 ISP in the Midwest, #3 in the USA."
- C|Net (http://www.cnet.com)
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:44:13 -0500 (CDT)
From: John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: KevMo
Message-ID: <199610161744.MAA02586@psa.pencom.com>
Someone wrote:
> I think Kevin is a Fucking Idiot! (sorry, Bafu, kicks are for Trids). He
> left one of the greatest bands of all time because he thought he could do
> better solo. Wrong! The failures far outweigh the exceptions. Even Sting
> isn't as talented as he thought he was without The Policeman.
>
Woah, wait a minute. I don't think Kevin left because he thought he could
do better solo. If you listened to his latest work, you will find it to
be quite a departure from his work with DT. He is exploring an avenue he
is interested in. Kevin fould himself wanting to take a different road
than with DT. You cannot blame anyone for a change of heart.
As for him working with FW...why not? He is friends with the band (read
the liner notes..) and he has worked with them in the past. Face it, he
is a damn good keys player. If you were the guys in FW, would you rather
work with someome you have worked with in the past (and gotten along) or
bring in someone totally new? Also too, there is the paying the bills
thing. I'd sell beachballs at the beach if it had paid enough but it
doesn't. That is why I do what I do for a living. Kevin is paying the
bills (and getting more exposure) by playing with FW. There is nothing
wrong with that. It wasn't like he said, "Screw you guys, I'm gonna go
and play for Weird Al Yankovick!!!"
Johnny
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:48:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Con thoughts
Message-ID: <199610161748.MAA03279@psa.pencom.com>
Joe Christina writes:
> 8. I'm the Daytona USA Champion, better Luck next time at the next Con
> Johnny Motown :)
>
Ha! You got lucky that I tagged the wall, pal! :D I want a rematch next
Con! :D
Joe also mentioned aobut joining the DT Fan Club. I agree. Do it. Cough
up the $15. You'll be sorry if you didn't. :D
Johnny Motown
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:30:50 -0600 (CST)
From: "Roland (Shred) Rupp" <al765518@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Marty Friedman "True Obsessions"
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.961016113025.120451A-100000@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
There is Dragon kiss a metal album and there is Scenes a new age album
produced by Kitaro
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On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, John Shaft wrote:
> I happen to pick this up this past weekend also. very good disc. I was
> originally looking for introduction though. my friend found this and i
> cant seem to find it anywhere. are there any other solo discs other than
> these two?
>
> Ed
>
>
> Chat with: talk polzin@isr1165.urh.uiuc.edu
> WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/
> BOOTLEGS: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/boots/boots.htm
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>
> On Mon, 14 Oct 1996 CNG@tcco.com wrote:
>
> > I just picked this up for $13 and it is by far Marty's best work. It's not
> > as "shredding" as his Cacophony/"Dragon's Kiss" work and not as "new age" as
> > his "Scenes" album. It's...just right. Good arrangements, decent vocals
> > and great guitar playing.
> >
> > PS - NY Yankees in 5!!!
> >
> >
>
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:16:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: you asked for it...
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961016141415.9542C-100000@bdmserver>
Someone asked about bad traders and well the bad traders I have come
across are:
Al Balkewicz
lives in New Jersey
Jermey Haynes (aka Sue Moscardini)
6 Kish Pl
Wallingford, CT
Beware anyone who lives at 6 kish...
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:26:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Mikes@psa.pencom.com, notes...@psa.pencom.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1932
Message-ID: <199610161826.NAA05859@psa.pencom.com>
Hi all, me once again. Cripes! I don't think I have ever posted this many
times before in one day...
Weiland, um, err, Mike Bahr writes:
> So, uh, guys? Does it suck, or is your silence in awe at the
> majestic splendour of Precious Things? Or are you just still tired from
> the plane trip like I am? :)
>
Nah, it doesn't suck. As you have read by now, I am amazed at your work!
:D I'm not tired of the plane ride, just the drivin'. :D I did a little
over 300 miles between noon Saturday and 4:30am Sunday. And I live in
Jersey... :D
> The Golden Steering Wheel Award goes to...JOHNNY MOTOWN!!
>
Uhhh, thank you. I'd like to thank the Acedemy. I'd like to thank Mike
Bahr who was navigator - I could have sworn it was a right hand turn onto
Old Country Rd! :D And all of the Ytsejammers out there for without whom,
none of this would have made sense to do! (Imagine driving around La
Guardia and Long Island for a day for no apparent reason!) :D
> directions, and keen eyesight into the navigator's chair,
>
Hey, pal, you're the one who called "shotgun". :D
> we only got lost in Queens once, saw one drug deal, almost had less than a
> dozen bad drivers hit us (counting one ambulance), and dinged the exit
> barrier at the airport BOTH times coming on it. I'm rather proud of him!!
>
I never touched the exit barrier!! :D Plus too, if they had signs that I
could read, I would have been over with room to spare! But seeing Gabbo's
girlfriend's expression when we got out of the car, I guess we got a too
little close for comfort. Thank God I am not a professional driver on a
closed course. Woo hoo!
Johnny Motown, former NY taxi driver but got let go because I didn't honk
the horn often enough. :D
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 96 18:35:21 GMT
From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
Subject: "Anthem" covered on Yngwie Malmsteen's "Inspiration"
Message-ID: <M.101696.203521.56@wxs2-12.worldaccess.nl>
Some of you may know that Yngwie Malmsteen did a cover CD called
"Inspiration". He recorded this one in his home studio with a variety of
singers (including former comprades Turner, Boals and Soto) and keyboard
players (including Jens Johansson and David Rosenthal). Anders Johanssen plays
all the drums, Yngwie plays guitar and bass (except on one track, "Carry on
Wayward Son", where Marcel Jacob does) and sings on "Manic Depression".
It's a very interesting CD, featuring "Carry on Wayward Son" (Kansas),
"Pictures of Home" (Purple), "Gates of Babylon" (Rainbow), "Manic Depression"
(Hendrix), "In the Dead of Night" (?), "Mistreated" (Purple), "The Sails of
Charon" (UFO? Old Scorpions?), "Demon's Eye" (Purple), "Anthem" (Rush) and
"Child in Time" (Purple).
Of course, all songs are slightly overplayed when it comes to the guitar bit -
but I love it. And I think "Anthem" is better than the one on the Rush tribute,
mostly because Mark Slaughter doesn't sing it. I had high hopes for "Child in
Time", but in fact it's been rearranged a bit too much (especially the
beginning and the bit where the screaming starts) and the guitar solo ("crazy",
according to Malmsteen) is awesome and super-fast but, after a minute or so,
frankly, and this hurts me as I am an Yngwie fan, tedious (up and down the
neck, up and down, down and up, for about 3.5 minutes) . Highlights on the CD,
IMO, are "The Sails of Charon" (never heard the original, but it sounds very
interesting and Phrygian) and "Gates of Babylon".
The CD liner notes are pretty cool. Lots of pictures of Yngwie with guitars
(two with at least 33 Strats in the background). Quite a few of the songs fade
out on guitar solos, which I think is a shame.
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 96 15:25:19 -0500 From: Ryan_Rafaloff@tanagraphics.com (Ryan Rafaloff) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New Band Message-ID: <227120.ensmtp@tanagraphics.com>
Hey folks,
Has anyone heard of this band Kula Shaker? Cool new sound..... Their stuff almost sounds like a cross between Floyd and Phish.......but it's far from DT
Later,
-Raf
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:40:07 PST From: "God of Thunder" <PILLSBUR@HUMnet.UCLA.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ACOS transcription, Tool Message-ID: <ABB3610F3E@113hum2.humnet.ucla.edu>
Jammers-
About the whole ACOS transcription idea, it's a fine idea except I would propose that somebody transcribe it first and GIVE it to them as they would undoubtedly screw it up by themselves (re: Erotomania, and the DT books(Warner Bros. but the point stands)). I'm sure we have some excellent musicians on the Jam who would jump at the chance to do this. Whether or not GFTPM or GW accept an outside work, I don't know. Perhaps a Wolf Marshall-esque discussion could be included. I do think it would be great and (for me) useful to have a good transcription though.
Regarding Tool, I must say I'm incredibly intrigued by them, having been told numerous times how amazing they are. I've listened to a little of the new album but I need to really sit down and work through it. As for the prog categorization, my gut tells me they're doing stuff that could be considered prog the way Faith No More could be considered prog. And I really like Faith No More. Hmmm. I did almost buy the album because of the bitchinly freaky cover. I guess I'm just mired in indecision, hence I should go and wallow in it (or do laundry...yea...better do laundry before wallowing...or I could wallow in laundry).
Glenn
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