YTSEJAM Digest 1928
Today's Topics:
1) The seriousness of the moment:Bafu
by Walter S Semerenko <wss88274@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
2) Ytsecon III - The Search For Food
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
3) Re: mikes awake solo
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
4) Angra
by vanzin@infinity.com.br
5) Shagging and Snogging
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
6) Re: Marty Friedman "True Obsessions"
by John Shaft <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
7) Steinway to Heaven
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
8) various bands
by Matthew Sirois <ms014e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
9) Fantasy Basketball
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1927
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
11) Re: Steinway to Heaven
by "R. Hailey" <pass@u.washington.edu>
12) CARPE DIEM
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
13) Re: Favorite Guitarrist Poll
by Kain <kain@caribe.net>
14) Re: mikes awake solo
by Analog Kid <jalfaro@caribe.net>
15) Re: New Songs
by Analog Kid <jalfaro@caribe.net>
16) I need some help...
by "Frank Benenati" <mojonet@vastnet.net>
17) Instrumental 1,2,3,etc.
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
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Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 20:52:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Walter S Semerenko <wss88274@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The seriousness of the moment:Bafu
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.961013204725.6469B-100000@pegasus>
> Geez, Bafu, you take things way too seriously nowdays since you have been
> raised from the Ytse-dead. It was just harmless jabbing at you. Didn't
> you see the :P??????
Methinks that Bafu Vai has an ego problem. :->
> Try to relax a little Bafu, breathe in, breathe out...
LOL!...you know something Pat...I've noticed that this summer has been
peaceful on the 'jam. :-)
Walter.
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:56:09 -0400
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ytsecon III - The Search For Food
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961014165609.0068e0f4@ici.net>
Yes, I'm sure there will be a multitude of posts from people about the
'con, and I know it may seem unfair to those who didn't go, but I don't
care. :)
As a first-time visitor to New York City, I'd also like to share some
observations on the city itself. First of all - to whoever picked the
location, it was great if you were flying in, but HORRIBLE if you were
driving. There are apparently no regular streets on Long Island -
everything is a parkway. Driving home from the Power Windows show last
night required us to drive on 3 parkways and one expressway. In a 20
minute drive. We don't even *have* three parkways in MA. Of course, we
were driving D-Man home, so it was worth it, because now I know where he
lives. :)
Which leads to the con, and what it was really all about - the people.
It was great to finally be able to put names with faces, and meet some
really great people, although the requirement that we all kiss Mike
Bahr's feet before we could get into the hall may have been a LITTLE out
of line....
Seriously though, we bought everything Mike brought out for us, a lot of
us bought Gabbo's kewl Ytsejam t-shirts (if you haven't bought one yet -
do it).
We listened to Syrinx and Ibanez doing an (apparently) unrehearsed
acoustic set for us...and we took some probably rather odd pictures that
I expect will be on someone's web page(s) within the next couple of
days.
And no, noone from the band was there. And you know what else? I
couldn't have cared less.
A couple of final points, and then I'm outta here
1) Don't *ever* play lazer tag against Jeff Chew. No matter what he
tells you, he *has played before. :)
2) New York drivers honk their horns way way way WAY too much.
3) If anybody needs to know where a certain airline's terminal is at
LaGuardia, I think we've got you covered. It seems like every time we
tried to leave the hotel (or come back to it), we ended up taking a
scenic route through the airport.
4)To Mike Bahr, D-Man, Wisha, Gabbo, Irene, Pellaz, and all the other
wackos I finally met: As D-Man would say - you guys nok radz! :)
And now, back to everybody else's review......
________Pat Sullivan__________________________________
E-mail: psull@ici.net
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html
IRC: DDictator
NP: Vicious Rumors - "Word Of Mouth"
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 13:13:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: mikes awake solo
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961014131255.11551A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> > Why is it the best solo? simple..... "HEAH THE DRUMMAH GET
> > WICK-ED!!!!!!!!!!!"
>
> Does anybody know where this sample is from? Maybe from a rap song...?
it's from the public enemy (later pe/anthrax) song "bring the noise"
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:11:48 +0300
From: vanzin@infinity.com.br
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Angra
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.10.14.15.11.48.3163793292.121715@infinity.com.br>
Hey jammerz!
YT> DT FANS LISTEN UP:!!!!!!FUCKIN EXCELLENT NEW BAND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO
YT>HAVENT LEARNT IT YET:ANGRA !!!!! ANGRA !!!!!! ANGRA !!!!!!!! ANGRA !
YT>!!!!!!! ANGRA!!!!!!!!
Not SO new, huh?
I've already seen two concerts of theirs around here: one ni the
first Monsters of rock, in 1994, and one last Saturday. And I missed
the two nights in July.
Their guitar player (Kiko Loureiro) is incredible, I met him at
the Malmsteen show here. I don't like them very much, but their covers
of Maiden's Wasted Years and Juda's Painkiller kick ass!!!
There's another band around here, not prog metal, more to heavy
metal than anything else, and I consider their guitarist much better
than Angra's. The band is called Dr. Sin (I met the guitarist at
Malmsteen's concert too, he was together with Kiko :) ).
YT> Fans of the good old Helloween will especially worship this band....Best
YT>Power Progressive stuff i ve heard in Years!
There's a new album coming out now in October, "Freedom Call". I
think it's worth checking out.
[]'s
Marcelo Vanzin
Sao Paulo - Brazil
vanzin@geocities.com vanzin@infinity.com.br
vanzin@dreamt.org
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/index.html
Always in the #ytsejam!
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:35:10 -0700
From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Shagging and Snogging
Message-ID: <199610141735.KAA12931@main.cfmc.com>
A couple of items from the World of Adam....
I, too, was at the Concord G3 show. I suppose I'll mostly be corroborating
what everyone else has said. Kenny Wayne Sheppard can really play. He IS
still a little derivitive, but he's a good one, in the Eric Gales tradition
of great young blues players.
Steve Vai was good -- he closed with "For The Love Of God," which was, of
course, tremendous. The rest of his set was pretty wild...mostly in a good
way, but his tendencies to excess drew away a little, I'd say, from the
musical content. He's a master showman, though...clearly influenced by his
time with David Lee Roth. And very, very loud. One of the loudest I've
heard in quite a while.
Eric Johnson was tremendous. The mix was a little low the first couple of
tunes....the remodeled Concord Pavilion really bounces around the high end,
which hurt his tone on a couple of tunes. "Zap" was awesome, "Righteous"
was very good....but it was more a workmanlike performance than the other
two times I'd seen him, when he was truly amazing. He may be tired of
playing the tune, but I missed "Cliffs Of Dover," his traditional
show-stopper. No "Soulful Terrain," "High Landrons," "Desert Rose," "Easy
Wes," or "Trademark," either. He played well, but the setlist was only
so-so, I'd say.
Satriani was the highlight, I'd have to say. He was definitely in fine
form, played extremely well....and leaned on his older stuff more than I
thought he would -- didn't play "Cryin'," "War," or "Rubina's Blue Sky
Happiness." A lot off of "Flying In A Blue Dream" and "Surfing With The
Alien," which are his two strongest albums, in my opinion. More of a
"greatest hits" set than the other two. Stu Hamm was awesome and I didn't
miss Mover too much.
The encore/jam thing at the end was nice (and Schon played awfully well). I
have mixed feelings about this one, though....here these wonderful
guitarists are playing intense, brilliant music for a couple of hours and
then the apex of the show is a bunch of guys sitting around, playing "I'm
Going Down" and "Red House." Sure, they uncorked some impressive solos, but
it was probably the LEAST interesting thing, musically, of the night. I
know it's a tradition, but it's a little pale next to the original material
played that night.
One other gripe -- couldn't we get 15 more minutes into each set? Steve Vai
only played a few tunes, and you could really feel that EJ was a little
roped in by the length. On his own, he's liable to really stretch a tune --
give you 10 minutes of "Desert Rose" or whatever. In this setting, he
really gives you interesting and credible renditions of each tune, but I
miss the prolonged improvisation. And maybe we coulda heard "Cliffs of
Dover." Satriani's slightly longer set was actually very good, I should add.
And (in John McLaughlin fashion) Issue Number Two:
I'm highly, HIGHLY recommending the new Galactic Cowboys EP, "Feel The
Rage." It's a GOOD one...."Feel The Rage" was already a great one -- one of
the 'Boys half-dozen best tunes. Add "Paradigm Shift" to that list of
really good ones... and the live version of "Idle Minds" is impressive, too.
It's not the place to start if you're not already a fan, but if you ARE,
this is a GOOD purchase to make...I'm behind it, anyhow.
Adam D. Barnhart
adamb@cfmc.com
ydnt85a@prodigy.com
Five Gratuitous CD's:
=====================
1. Rush: Test For Echo
2. Galactic Cowboys: Feel The Rage
3. Lemur Voice: Insights
4. Tori Amos: Hey Jupiter
5. Pink Floyd: The Division Bell
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 13:08:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: John Shaft <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Marty Friedman "True Obsessions"
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.961014130746.17504B-100000@eehpx43.cen.uiuc.edu>
I happen to pick this up this past weekend also. very good disc. I was
originally looking for introduction though. my friend found this and i
cant seem to find it anywhere. are there any other solo discs other than
these two?
Ed
Chat with: talk polzin@isr1165.urh.uiuc.edu
WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/
BOOTLEGS: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/boots/boots.htm
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On Mon, 14 Oct 1996 CNG@tcco.com wrote:
> I just picked this up for $13 and it is by far Marty's best work. It's not
> as "shredding" as his Cacophony/"Dragon's Kiss" work and not as "new age" as
> his "Scenes" album. It's...just right. Good arrangements, decent vocals
> and great guitar playing.
>
> PS - NY Yankees in 5!!!
>
>
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 14:35:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Steinway to Heaven
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961014142923.21158F-100000@bdmserver>
Saw this on rec.music.progressive
This is a new album from magna carta:
>to you before, with a healthy dose of sarcasm. Here's how "Steinway To
>Heaven" shakes out, for those who want to know :
>Keith Emerson............"Ginastera's Dance Creole"
>Rick Wakeman............."Beethoven's Pathetique"
>Jordan Rudess............"Chopin's Revolutionary Etude"
>Chuck Leavell............"Chopin's Prelude In E Minor"
>Chris Ingles............."Brahms' Variations On Paganini"
>David Bryan.............."Beehtoven's Moonlight Sonata"
>Patrick Moraz............"Chopin's Military Polonaise"
>Brian Auger.............."Faure's Pavane Op. 50"
>Mark Robertson..........."Liszt's Sonnetto Del Petrarca"
>Tony Hymas..............."Prokoviev's Suggestion Diabolique"
>Dizzy Reed..............."Chopin's Raindrop"
>Steve Porcaro............"Ravel's Pavane For A Dead Princess"
****
I've heard of Emerson, Wakeman, and Rudess but who are the others?
Is David Bryan the guy in Bon jovi, or am I thinking of someone else...
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| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 14:34:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matthew Sirois <ms014e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: various bands
Message-ID: <199610141834.OAA27020@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
does anyone here know what's up with the band echolyn? i have their
album entitled "as the world." it's really quite good - sounds kind of like
acoustic kansas with queen vocals. very progressive. are they still
around?
and what about anacrusis? i know they've broken up, but does anyone
have any info on what the members are doing? specifically kenn nardi...
i've heard he was involved with a band called tribes with knives, but i
can't find any info on them.
last and least, anyone care about a band called royal hunt?
- matt
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 14:47:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Fantasy Basketball
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961014143748.21158G-100000@bdmserver>
I should have done this for Fantasy Football at ESPN, but I will next year.
ESPN offers Fantasy Baseball, Fantasy Football, and now Fantasy
Basketball. They charge like 29.95 the first time you do one but after
that you can do it for $19.95. This is a one time fee and there are no
other charges. They automate everything so it makes it easy to do. You
can form leagues and play against people you know. I am not affiliated
with ESPN or starwave in anyform. I just enjoy fantasy sport games. Also
if you join you are then allowed to access all the ESPNET subscriber links...
So I formed a private league and am inviting jammers to join up and join
the league. Each league allows 12 teams so for this league there are 10
vacant spots open. So the first 10 to join are in.
The link to sign up is available from:
http://games0-espnet.sportszone.com/cgi/fba97/Request.dll?FRONTPAGE
So sign up and pay for a team then join the league
league name: "From The Foul Line"
password: "nbajam"
I know I should have named it "Ytsejam league" or something like that but
I wanted to name my team Ytse Jammers...
You can get all the rules and stuff from the above link.
If anyone joins, drop me a line letting me know...
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| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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| Hail to the Redskins 5-1 * Yankee fans are jerks! |
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:19:02 -0400
From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1927
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961014191902.2ddf5ea8@pop.negia.net>
Hey fellow Ytsejammers (tm)...
I wrote:
>> "Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They
>> who no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have
>> despaired, gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals
Bafu then wrote:
>It's official. This quote's going on my door soon. :) But since I've never
>seen the name Pablo Casals before, can you please provide some insight?
>I'm guessing he's somewhat into music...
Apparently Bafu *really* wants the answer to this, since it showed up twice
in this digest. :) :)
Pablo Casals is a cellist of extraordinary talent and great wisdom (as seen
in the above quote). I have also heard that he can also play the violin,
though I have no confirmation of this. The last information I had on him
placed him with the Columbia Symphony Orchestra.
Another interesting Casals story: he was being interviewed by a journalist
and the following exchange took place:
Journalist: Why, after so many years of playing the cello, do you still
practice so much? [Casals is over seventy, if I remember correctly].
Casals: Because, after all this time, I have some notion that I am improving.
Cheers,
Phil
--------------------------------------------
Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net
"Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who no
longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired, gain
new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:05:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: "R. Hailey" <pass@u.washington.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Steinway to Heaven
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.961014115444.88882A-100000@homer12.u.washington.edu>
On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Pat Daugherty wrote:
> Saw this on rec.music.progressive
>
> This is a new album from magna carta:
>
> >to you before, with a healthy dose of sarcasm. Here's how "Steinway To
> >Heaven" shakes out, for those who want to know :
> >Keith Emerson............"Ginastera's Dance Creole"
ELP
> >Rick Wakeman............."Beethoven's Pathetique"
Yes
> >Jordan Rudess............"Chopin's Revolutionary Etude"
Dixie Dregs
> >Chuck Leavell............"Chopin's Prelude In E Minor"
Allman Bros.
> >Chris Ingles............."Brahms' Variations On Paganini"
Shadow Gallery
> >David Bryan.............."Beehtoven's Moonlight Sonata"
I think you're correct about Bon Jovi
> >Patrick Moraz............"Chopin's Military Polonaise"
Yes, Moody Blues
> >Brian Auger.............."Faure's Pavane Op. 50"
> >Mark Robertson..........."Liszt's Sonnetto Del Petrarca"
Cairo
> >Tony Hymas..............."Prokoviev's Suggestion Diabolique"
> >Dizzy Reed..............."Chopin's Raindrop"
Guns and Roses
> >Steve Porcaro............"Ravel's Pavane For A Dead Princess"
> ****
> I've heard of Emerson, Wakeman, and Rudess but who are the others?
>
> Is David Bryan the guy in Bon jovi, or am I thinking of someone else...
that's all I can come up with.
I've heard some good things about this,
and hope to find it soon...
r.christopher hailey
it is not the earth that the meek will inherit...
pass@u.washington.edu http://weber.u.washington.edu/~pass
...but the dirt.
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:08:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: CARPE DIEM
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961014150532.21158I-100000@bdmserver>
I sent Marcel (v932407@si.hhs.nl) a message a few weeks ago making sure
he had a valid address to send me the cd since I have moved. I received
no response and dont know if he got it or not. It has been a long time
since he gave an update on the discs. It seems to me that only European
jammers have received the discs.
Marcel, what is the story on your boot cds?
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| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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| Hail to the Redskins 5-1 * Yankee fans are jerks! |
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:07:27 -0500
From: Kain <kain@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Favorite Guitarrist Poll
Message-ID: <32629D7F.4A@caribe.net>
Carlos Alfaro wrote:
> ..since they have no way
> of separating the multiple voters from real one time voters..
They *can* know who is connected and from what server. I've connected to
a few servers that their main page says something like this:
"You have visited *this site* from *your address and server* and using
*your browser*, this is just for security measures " and blah blah. I
changed from Netscape to Internet Explocrap and instead of saying
netscape they identified the browser. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't
being ripped off or anything, but they can know what server you're on.
Omar Torres
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:28:08 -0400 (AST)
From: Analog Kid <jalfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: mikes awake solo
Message-ID: <199610141928.PAA07626@mail.caribe.net>
At 09:29 AM 10/14/96 -0700, you wrote:
>> Why is it the best solo? simple..... "HEAH THE DRUMMAH GET
>> WICK-ED!!!!!!!!!!!"
>
>Does anybody know where this sample is from? Maybe from a rap song...?
>
>Peter
>
> oh come on..even a non rapper can recognize that as public enemy!
>
Uh.. burrito.
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:30:24 -0400 (AST)
From: Analog Kid <jalfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: New Songs
Message-ID: <199610141930.PAA07692@mail.caribe.net>
At 09:40 AM 10/14/96 -0700, you wrote:
>Where are you getting all these information?
>I want to check it out!
>
> check out the official page.. www.rsabbs.com/dt theres all the new info
Uh.. burrito.
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:35:57 -0400
From: "Frank Benenati" <mojonet@vastnet.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: I need some help...
Message-ID: <199610141935.PAA29929@link1.vastnet.net>
If anyone recieved YtseJam #1925 ...could you forward it to me???
thanks...
M O J O M A N
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Frank Benenati
mojonet@vastnet.net
http://www.vastnet.net/~mojonet
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:46:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Instrumental 1,2,3,etc.
Message-ID: <199610142046.QAA19898@cliff.cris.com>
Hey, has anybody here tried to email Tim Lodge about his supply of
Instrumental and Majesty Demos CD's? Does he answer his email? Does he
deliver? I'm real wary of ordering from him.
-Rick
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