YTSEJAM digest 1923

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Sat Oct 12 1996 - 03:20:18 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) FW, Jam #2112 action :)
     by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
      2) Tori Icons... Marillion next...
     by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
      3) to the person who asked about Anthrax
     by "Beavis (Wes Foll)" <wfoll@america.net>
      4) YtseCon III (fwd)
     by Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
      5) ATLANTA...here I come..........
     by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
      6) petrucci in Guitar world, vai, johnson
     by Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
      7) Crimson
     by Coop42@aol.com
      8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1922
     by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
      9) Trans-Siberian Orchestra
     by robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
     10) Re: Fates Warning Listening Guide....
     by drkhoe@squirm.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
     11) Re: FW, Jam #2112 action :)
     by drkhoe@squirm.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
     12) toilet drinking/Fates tips
     by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
     13) Savatage Streets-NDTC
     by Kevin Villines <kvill@flash.net>
     14) Recommander
     by robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
     15) old farts
     by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
     16) DT Theme
     by "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>

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    Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 22:05:17 +0000
    From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: FW, Jam #2112 action :)
    Message-ID: <325EC49D.373B@mailstorm.dot.gov>

    > From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)

    > ||s took me the longest to get into, but it is my favorite. I liked
    > PS the first time I heard it.

    Hmm, that's interesting. I was introduced to FW only about a year or so
    ago. It was ||s. When I heard "Leave the Past Behind" for the first
    time, I immediately had to play the song over. The only reason it took
    that long for me to get into it was the fact that I waited for the song
    to finish before rewinding it :)

    I haven't heard PS yet. Is it a much different sound than ||s? I notice
    their sound changes a lot from one album to the next.

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    > From: "Luke B." <s1042724@iplabs.ins.gu.edu.au>
    > Subject: I have the answer...

    You're a sick pup, Luke. :)

    Don't ever change!!!!

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    > From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
    > Subject: Drums, Jason Becker, and "Change of Seasons"

    > It concerns "A Change of Seasons," which I consider to be Dream
    > Theater's crowning achievement thus far. The disc has gotten such heavy play
    > in my player that the center spindle that holds the thing in place in its
    > jewel box is getting worn and doesn't work too well anymore.

    Amen!

    The tape I use for road tunes is so worn, it fakes out the auto-reverse
    logic on the deck; but it's ok, cuz it's on parts that I don't mind
    obsessing on :)

    -----------

    Any pools set up for the birth date of Jam #2112 ?

    Oops, forget I said that. I just had visions of pocket calculators
    overheating and MBs of article compost arriving to make tomorrow the
    birth date.

    TGIF!!!!

    Regards,

    Jon Go Pats!!!

                         NE __ Redskins _

    *------------*------------------------*--------------*
    | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 |
    *------------*------------------------*--------------*

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    Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:04:37 +-100
    From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
    To: "'Freaks Mailinglist'" <freaks@ax.com>, "'The Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Tori Icons... Marillion next...
    Message-ID: <01BBB7D1.CF964400@KEhleyr.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>

    Hey :-)

    I've just finished 83 (!) 256-color Tori Amos icons, plus one very cool
    animated cursor of Tori's latest performance on the Late Show :-)
    If you're interested, you can download them from my homepage...

    There are two icons called "LE_full.ico" and "LE_empty.ico" (the "Little
    Earthquakes" cover with and without Tori) I've created for the Windows
    '95 Recycle Bin.

    Next week or so, I'll replace them with a bunch of *Marillion* icons...
    (still have to make those). After that I'll probably do some *Dream
    Theater* icons too :-)

    Let me know what you think of my TorIcons :-)

      *cough*Sign*cough*My*cough*Uninvited*cough*Guests*cough*Book*cough*

    Mark
    _______________________________________________________itchy@dreamt.org__
    All of us get lost in the darkness _ _____ ___ _ _ _ _
    Dreamers learn to steer by the stars (`)(_```_)/``_)(`)_(`)(`)_(`)
    All of us do time in the gutter RUSH | | ) ( ( (_ | _ | \_ /
    Dreamers turn to look at the cars THE PASS (_) (_) \___)(_) (_) (__/
    ____________________________________________________bredius@globalxs.nl__
    Maintainer of the Official Freaks and Ytsejam "Most Frequent Poster List"
                 URL: http://www.globalxs.nl/home/b/bredius/

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    Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:24:16 -0400 (EDT)
    From: "Beavis (Wes Foll)" <wfoll@america.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: to the person who asked about Anthrax
    Message-ID: <199610112224.SAA05998@atl1.america.net>

    Sorry I had to post here, but my message to you was returned for some
    reason, so I'll just post it here...

    <btw, The Killing Hand is AWESOME as hell...in fact, so is the whole WDADU
    album rules...in fact, everything DT has ever done rules...see ya!>

    --------failed message:----------
    To: andS@challserv.challenger.net (Sally Murphy)

    hey, yeah, Anthrax used to have a different bassist. He was only on their
    first album "Fistful Of Metal" back in 82 or somewhere around then. Here's
    the band lineup for this album:
    Scott Ian--same as now
    Dan Spitz--lead
    Neil Turbin--vocals (before Joey...)
    Dan Lilker--BASS
    Charlie Benante--hmmm...hehehe

    Dan Lilker, btw, is still great friends with most of the dudes in thrax. He
    was in SOD with Scott, and Danny in '85-86 or so (I think it was danny...I
    don't have any SOD stuff...).

    So he was auditioning for a play?? details!!! gimmee details...8)
    Beavis (Wes Foll)
           /|
          / ||\
         / || \ ______________ _ ______ _ __ __
        //| || \\_____ _____| ||___ // |\ \/ /
       //_| || \ | || || | | || |/ ///|| \ /
      / __ || |\ \ | || || |__| || <//_|| / \
     / / | || | \ \| || || __ || |\ \__ |/ /\ \
    /_/ |_||_| \ || || | |_||_|/\ \ || / \_\
                   \ || ||/ \_\||/
                    \ ||/
                     \|
    "What is, is.
    What is not, is not.
    What is is, and is not, is is, and is not."

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    Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 19:28:33 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
    To: The BafuJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: YtseCon III (fwd)
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95L.961011192402.19393A-100000@namaste.cc.columbia.edu>

    Dear jammers,

    This is the last update that I'll be sending, so these are all of the
    checks/money orders that I have received over the mail. I'll see you all
    at the Con!

    Yours,
    Jeff =)

                <*> Jeff Chew <*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/ <*>
        <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> jeffc@dreamt.org <*> jchew@rsabbs.com <*>
      <*> (516) 674-4828 <*> Dorm (212) 853-2238 <*> Beeper (917) 712-4828 <*>

           "Smile! No one will know what you're up to!" --- Lea Salonga

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 19:56:05 -0400
    From: Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
    To: The BafuJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.music.dream-theater
    Subject: YtseCon III

    Dear jammers,

    Hey there! Here's an update for the YtseCon III! First of all, it will
    take place at the La Guardia Marriot (Queens, NY), on Saturday, October
    12th from 1pm to 5pm. We have spoken to Dream Theater and management, and
    they say that there is a good chance that they will be there.

    The cost for pre-paid tickets is $20 per person. The cost at the door
    will be $25 per person. This will cover the cost of the conference room
    and other miscellaneous stuff (name tags, programs, etc.). If you would
    like to pay in advance, please send a check to:

    YtseCon III
    c/o Jeff Chew
    350 Broadway, Suite 703
    New York, NY 10013

    When you send a check, please include a note or letter that says your
    name, return address, e-mail address, and phone number. This makes things
    a lot easier for us when we send the tickets back to you, plus if we ever
    need to get in contact with you.

    Since the Con is coming up pretty close already, and we haven't had the
    chance to get our acts together to mail out the tickets/name tags, we've
    decided to distribute the name tags (they will be numbered) at the door.
    So, you will have to bring a form of ID so you can pick up your ticket.

    Due to the lack of reservations, we have decided to return the block of 75
    rooms to the Marriot. So, we have arranged it so that you can contact the
    Marriot through their 800 number. If you need a room, call the La Guardia
    Marriot at 1-800-882-1043. *REMEMBER TO TELL THEM THAT YOU ARE GOING TO
    THE "DREAM THEATER CONVENTION"*. The deadline to reserve a room is
    October 4th. If you need to find someone to split a room with, the staff
    is still doing that (well, Greg is), so you can contact him at
    grc8@columbia.edu.

    If you plan on flying to the YtseCon III, we have arranged something with
    Rich Worldwide Travel so you can reserve airline tickets through them by
    calling their 800 number. Please call 1-800-431-1130, and tell them that
    you are going to the 'Dream Theater Convention'.

    If you can provide a ride to the YtseCon III, or if you are in need of a
    ride, please contact me by either e-mailing me or calling me and I will
    see what I can do.

    Syrinx gave me the idea of writing up a list of paid tickets. If you sent
    out a check to me and you're not on the list, let me know! IT could be
    either lost in the mail or it didn't get to me yet. Well, here goes:

    1N - One night reserved at the Marriot (these are only the ones that were
    sent to me rather than directly to the Marriot)

    2N - Two nights reserved at the MArriot

    R - Providing rides
     
    L - Providing a place to stay
     
    Paid:

    001 Ryan T. Rafaloff 002 Ryan T. Rafaloff 003 David Neff
    004 Sean Haider 005 Sean Haider 006 Brian Anderson + 1N
    007 Brian Anderson 008 Brian Anderson 009 Pat Gravino
    010 Mike Ostrich + 1N 011 Mike Ostrich 012 Dave Pack
    013 Brian Levy 014 Jason Breitweg 015 Mike Bahr + 1N
    016 Josh Sager 017 Josh Sager 018 Josh Sager
    019 Josh Sager 020 Jeff Chew 021 Greg Chew
    022 Michael Pomerleau 023 Michael Pomerleau 024 Matthew Erwich
    025 Paul Cashman 026 Brian Kirk 027 Brian Kirk
    028 Jeffrey Falk 029 Pat Sullivan 030 Joe Cristina
    031 Irene Raceu 032 Pat Griffin 033 Craig Moran
    034 Ryan Redfern 035 Scott Luttringer 036 Nathan Bradley
    037 Nathan Bradley 038 Ryan Webb 039 Ryan Webb

     
    Okay, that's it so far. It's not looking very good so far, and I really
    need the money to put the deposit on the conference room, so I'd prefer if
    you guys sent me the money ahead of time rather than paying more at the
    door. That's it for now. If there are any mistakes, e-mail me! I'll
    talk to you soon!

    Yours,
    Jeff =)

                <*> Jeff Chew <*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/ <*>
        <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> jeffc@dreamt.org <*> jchew@rsabbs.com <*>
      <*> (516) 674-4828 <*> Dorm (212) 853-2238 <*> Beeper (917) 712-4828 <*>

           "Smile! No one will know what you're up to!" --- Lea Salonga

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    Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:54:12 -0500
    From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: ATLANTA...here I come..........
    Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.10.11.-14.54.12.3724.11560@clubmet.metrobbs.com>

    Hey all you ytsejamers in ATLANTA.

           If things work out right, I will be moving to Atlanta GA before
    November.

           Paul Cashman...write me. thx.

           Did you say the G3 show is skipping ATLANTA? and if so, where
    is the show playing near there? when?

    see ya

                           todd

    market@clubmet.com

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    Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:26:59 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: petrucci in Guitar world, vai, johnson
    Message-ID: <199610120026.RAA07571@fraser>

    check out www.guitarworld.com

    there is a new petrucci lesson based on a passage from ACOS.
    there is also a couple of great interviews with eric johnson and steve vai.
    someone was saying that he thinks that one of the piano parts on vai's new
    album is sequenced. steve answers that. he also tells a few other interesting
    stories :)

    later,
    tim

    ---
    i'm going to see G3 in seattle!!!! YES!!! but if it wasn't for ticketbastard
    i'd be a lot closer...oh well.
    this is a friendly reminder to use decent subject lines...i skip any post
    that has YTSEJAM #xxx in the subject...i'm sure i'm not the only one :)
    ---end of sermon---
    

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    Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 20:29:41 -0400 From: Coop42@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Crimson Message-ID: <961011202936_124631094@emout11.mail.aol.com>

    Hello, People of the Jam!

    John wrote: >Also, I've been trying to get a hold of a CD called Crimson by a band >Crimson. I remember someone here posted about it in May or June. I >remember that it only had one song on it called, that's right you guessed >it, Crimson. It clocked in at 55:00. Well, email me or post it(they are a >prog band, I think).

    I guess you mean the album Crimson from Edge of Sanity. They're a Swedish Death Metal band, but their main songwriter Dan Swanoe is a huge fan of prog rock, so expect some prog influences. I have to admit though, that I don't know Crimson, but I absolutely recommend their album The Spectral Sorrows. That one offers a large amount of Death Metal-power AND an equally large amount of variety. Check it out! I hope that was helpful...

    Andreas Berger Coop42@aol.com

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    Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 20:00:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1922 Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.961011190529.23548B-100000@enteract.com>

    I personally get really noticably pissed off when people start making racial remarks like that OJ joke. I have no room in my life for fucking ignorance.

    On a good note, Anthony from Clockwork sent me a copy of "Weaving," and while I think it's got a lot of room for improvement, it sounds to me like this was caused by being "rushed" in the studio. This is some great material, but I felt they needed to relax more and flow. Now I hear they have a new singer, and I can't wait to hear the new music. They have good taste in writing, esp. in keys and lyrics. There was a great sequenced intro opening up the demo. The guitars actually remind me of me. They have the same little alternate picking problems (that only someone that plays like us would notice) I have, and at times, a similar "Jason Becker" sounding influence. Not that I'm saying I'm as good or not as good. I don't compare myself to anyone in quality really. That's tacky. :)

    I think this band is gonna knock some socks off when they come out with some well rehearsed music. More power to bands like this. Gives us a lot to look forward to.

    ACK! Steve Johnson, you actually saved my ASS by saying that G3 sold out here in Chi-town. I was going to get my tix 2 days ago, and something came up. I almost shat myself when I saw that it was sold out. My buddy introduced me to his "scalper" friend, and I got his last two tickets. My procrastination is costing me $45 a ticket though! Heh. Money's not an issue though. Mike Keneally, Steve Vai, Eric Johnson, Joe Satriani, and Adrian Legg... that will be a show!

    The New Michael Hedges is great. Anyone into acoustic music, looking for some wild and crazy compositions should check him out. Mail me and I'll give you a list of some albums to check out, or maybe get you a .wav or two.

    You may proceed.

    -------------------------------------- Christopher Ptacek at Enteract, L.L.C. Technical Support Engineer -------------------------------------------------------------------------- T h o u g l e e k i n g o n i o n e y e d d e a t h t o k e n

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    Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 22:37:30 -0500 From: robert.henderson@ICDC.COM To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Trans-Siberian Orchestra Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.10.11.-10.37.30.2510543059.243516@bbs.icdc.com>

    BTW, in other Atlantic news, ALL SAVATAGE FANS LISTEN UP: Very soon there is going to be a release by a group called Trans-Siberian Orchestra called "Christmas Eve And Other Stories." This album is partly the brainchild of Savatage's JON OLIVA and features guest appearances by none other than Al Pitrelli and Zak Stevens. It is best described as a heavy metal Christmas concept album. Think of it as "Dead Winter Dead" meets "Jingle Bells" and you get the idea. There is a story line which contains both original songs and reworked versions of Christmas standards. Some of the arrangements are very Savatage-esque and will blow your mind. Speaking of which, Savatage's very own "Christmas Eve/Sarajevo 12/24" turns up here and is not out of place, which gives you an idea of what kind of album this is. I've heard it an it is unbelievable. Imagine: a heavy metal release by a major label. Who would have thought. Anyway, look for it under "Symphonic Rock Christmas" sections in your record stores. You won't be disappointed.

    Cyberburlap

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    Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 21:40:21 -0800 From: drkhoe@squirm.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Fates Warning Listening Guide.... Message-ID: <199603230540.VAA10388@squirm.gmsnet.com>

    YEah, I need to update all the old shit in it...

    >> >> heheeh sorry.. didnt know this was an old thing.. :)

    -The Doc

    -- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: drkhoe@gmsnet.com #$%#$#$% *$%&%#$* Global Micro Solutions #$#$#@@# *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$

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    Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 21:41:27 -0800 From: drkhoe@squirm.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: FW, Jam #2112 action :) Message-ID: <199603230541.VAA10429@squirm.gmsnet.com>

    I always considered Parallels darker then Inside Out... but... to each his own tragedy... ;)

    -The Doc

    -- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: drkhoe@gmsnet.com #$%#$#$% *$%&%#$* Global Micro Solutions #$#$#@@# *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$

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    Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:01:51 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: toilet drinking/Fates tips Message-ID: <199610120503.AAA08627@Walden.MO.NET>

    <snip about people drinking coffee out of toilet-shaped mugs, and how disgusting it is)>

    NO WAY!!!! That would rule. I mean, my favourite drink and my favourite seat. Who could ask for anything more?

    Thanks for the Fates tips. I have by no means given up on No Exit. That was just my first impression. I am very interested in hearing Inside Out and Parallels now. And yeah, I kinda dig the darker tone once in a while.

    KEWL!!!! The Great Cornholio just came on!!!!

    Dale R. Newberry

    "I WANT ALL YOUR CRRRRRAPPUCCINO!!!!!"

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    Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:34:57 -0500 From: Kevin Villines <kvill@flash.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Savatage Streets-NDTC Message-ID: <325F2E01.64A@flash.net>

    Whoever posted recently about trading a copy of Savatage's Ghost in the Ruins/Final Bell-Live album for Streets, could you E-Mail me at kvill@flash.net I would be willing to trade Streets or something else in order to get the live CD. Thanks, Kevin.

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    Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 02:59:50 -0500 From: robert.henderson@ICDC.COM To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Recommander Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.10.12.2.59.50.2510543059.243918@bbs.icdc.com>

    For anyone considering getting the DREG records progressive compilation/sampler album "DREGS of the Internet - Vol. I", lemme just pass along my recommendations. This is a great album - every track is solid (that's right - no stinkers!). And its featured Clockwork? Fat city - new vocalist. This CD is a great way, like the tape swap currently going on, to be exposed to a substantial number of bands at once. Whee, auk-cellent.

    My condolences to all those stuck at the Ytsecon, as, I'm sure you realize by now, the *real* party is here at my house. You're welcome to come on over, but you'll have to be real quiet-like, so as to not wake my parents. We could play Nintendo -- I've got Contra *and* Duck Hunt! Only one controller, though, so you'll have to watch me play... Up, up, down, down, left-right, left-right, B-A-B-A, select, select, start - the true key to success in life.

    Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap

    Currently in the 'player': Wishbone Ash, "Argus"

    "I'll give you fifty dollars to transfer out of this class." -- Mr. Canby, Earth n' Space Science teacher

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    Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 02:10:38 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: old farts Message-ID: <199610120712.CAA09426@Walden.MO.NET>

    Hey, I just saw this old dude (I'm talking elderly here) the other night at the grocery store that was wearing this hat (one of those ball caps with the white foam front and blue mesh back) that had "Rush" on it in those sort of fuzzy-type letters you can get at sporting goods stores (for team shirts and stuff). Needless to say, my first thought was "hey, kewl, a really old dude that's into rush," but then I figured his name's probably Rush and forgot about it. I did see a kid (probably about 10 or so) wearing a Counterparts t-shirt, so that was sort of cool.. Man, it's late.

    Dale R. Newberry

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    Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 21:30:18 +0000 From: "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT Theme Message-ID: <199610120710.BAA26632@cyberhighway.net>

    > >Where can I get this DT theme ?? > >Please reply personal.

    That may be a good theme and all, but, my new DT theme is scheduled for completeion by Sunday. (Hopefully!) Maybe sometime next week, latest, but it's gonna rock nadz over the old one, I think. :) I'm getting the animated icons done tomorrow. (Sorry, Ivan, yer's is still really kewl!) I had to cheat though and use a flaming heart, too. Not the same one, though, I don't plan on ripping of other people's work. Just their ideas!

    NP: Shadow Gallery (still!) First CD in 6 months to oust Yanni to the #2 slot in my CD changer!. Give these guys a hand!

    Crystalline Dreams has been stuck in my head all damn day. What sux is I don't know the words yet, so they just come through garbled... Better than the "Menthos" song, I guess...

    Mr. Chuckalupugus

    "Life is Precious. All of life. And one must try to take in as much of it as possible." -- Yanni

    "Life sucks." -- Butthead "Yeah, yeah! And then you die!" -- Beavis

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