YTSEJAM Digest 1961
Today's Topics:
1) Rush
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
2) carpe diem
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
3) NO!!!!!!!
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
4) DT shows
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
5) Tears?
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
6) Tori Transcriptions
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
7) Re: Rush
by skooc@earthlink.net
8) Re: Tears?
by skooc@earthlink.net
9) YTSEJAM digest 1960
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1960
by Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@vwc.edu>
11) why????
by "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" <mmahmed@mtu.edu>
12) Kinesis Progressive Label
by Ryan Good <rtgood@students.wisc.edu>
13) Kick-ass stickers
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
14) Sorry to do this but...
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
15) east coast bastards
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
16) Bootlegs (I wanna trade)
by "Roland (Shred) Rupp" <al765518@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
17) Bidding update
by Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@vwc.edu>
18) Mike Bahr - MIA?
by "Mike Patrick" <mpatrick@netusa1.net>
19) da e-man, n' da DT shows
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
20) Re: NO!!!!!!!
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
21) Dt Video (important) (at least for me) hehe
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:36:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Rush
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961023123535.10536A-100000@bdmserver>
Ok, Its been awhile since I have been to a Rush concert. What side of the
stage does Geddy and Alex stand on?
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| Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
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| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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| Hail to the Redskins 6-1 ** Congrats to the 1996 MLS Champs-DC UNITED |
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:52:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: carpe diem
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961023124935.10536C-100000@bdmserver>
Skooc wrote:
>I don't know Matt, I was one of the first people to order it when Marcel was
>talking about possibly making a disc of a DT show in Europe; I sent him my
>money, which he happily accepted. Now all the problems with the CD writer
>and stuff have been apparently fixed and I STILL don't have it. I would
>recommend waiting till Marcel gets caught up with the people that he owes
>CD's to (like myself) before you order a copy for yourself.
I dont know how everyone paid Marcel but I sent money to Mike Bahr a long
time ago. I am not sure if he has sent Marcel anything yet or when he
will. I just hope Mike Bahr definitely still has me down for having paid
him for Carpe Diem...
There really needs to be a Carpe Diem update like Mike Bahrs....
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| Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
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| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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| Hail to the Redskins 6-1 ** Congrats to the 1996 MLS Champs-DC UNITED |
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:55:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: NO!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961023125305.10536D-100000@bdmserver>
I saw the DT tour dates and I was like cool! I will try to make some of
these shows. Then I looked closely at the dates and....
damn it, damn it, son of a bitch...
I will be in St Maarten at that time. I guess the Caribbean is a
consolation for missing the shows... Um, is it?????
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| Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
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| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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| Hail to the Redskins 6-1 ** Congrats to the 1996 MLS Champs-DC UNITED |
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:51:48 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT shows
Message-ID: <326E4D24.6201@mailstorm.dot.gov>
> Fri. December 13th - The Strand - Providence, RI
Friday the 13th, eh? Only an hour away? hmmm...tough decision :)
> These shows are the WORST possible time of year for anyone in
> school to see them!
Just means more tickets left for the rest of us....muhahahahahaha!!!
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| Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 |
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:05:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tears?
Message-ID: <199610231705.NAA03616@cliff.cris.com>
Hi all,
Those of you familiar with Tori Amos and/or the DT Mind Control bootleg,
perhaps you can explain what the deal is with the tune "Tears" on Mind
Control. I read that it's supposed to be a Tori cover, but I don't see that
song listed on any of her albums....yet it sounds so familiar....like Rush's
"Rivendell" or something.
Anyone care to enlighten me? Thanks.
-Rick
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:34:37 -0500
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tori Transcriptions
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961023173437.006a82e8@enteract.com>
Hey... sorry to those of you who consider this to be spam...
I came up with a pretty simplistic transcription to Tori Amos's "Precious
Things" for distorted guitar. I was listening to it one day and thinking
"How would this sound if it were 'metalized'?" and I decided to try it out.
I could probably send the tab via e mail if anyone wants. It's nothing
amazing, but it's cool as hell to play... mostly power chords and the main
voice of the piano melody. I came up with a way to play both of the main
pianio voicings on one guitar using some nifty chords, but I haven't really
refined it yet, and am not ready to tab it out. It seems to be a cool piece
of music to play in an instrumental context. Maybe I'll tab out the vocals
as guitar parts and see if it's possible to copy any of her emotion to
guitar. Thus far it's not a difficult song to play. I didn't throw in any
32nd notes, and the only time I do anything difficult in it is when I do
some rolling 16th notes as a dynamic picking thing. My bet is that anyone
who's been playing guitar for a year or so could play this tune the way I
have it tabbed now.
I'm also working on a fingerpicked "Michael Hedges-esque" version of
Winter... this one is sounding cool, but it'll be a while before I have it
done. It will be pretty advanced... when I fingerpick I like to keep
everything as close to the original as possible, regardless of the technical
problems this may cause. If it comes out the way I'm planning it, I
wouldn't suggest making this one of the first fingerpicking tunes you learn!
:) Lemme know what kind of interest this brings up... preferably by private
e mail. Oh, and if anyone wants to add to these tabs let me know if you
come up with anything cool for them. Precious Things was only about 5
minutes worth of work, so I am SURE it can be improved on.
(p.s. no I'm not selling the tabs... just offering them to anyone that wants
em.)
"I'm afraid of politicians who have no hobbies." - A.R.U.
Christopher Ptacek EnterAct, L.L.C. We don't suck.
We now have proof.
http://www.enteract.com (312) 248-8511
"#1 ISP in the Midwest, #3 in the USA."
- C|Net (http://www.cnet.com)
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:55:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: skooc@earthlink.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Rush
Message-ID: <199610231755.KAA21749@denmark.it.earthlink.net>
At 09:38 AM 10/23/96 -0700, you wrote:
>Ok, Its been awhile since I have been to a Rush concert. What side of the
>stage does Geddy and Alex stand on?
>
from a audience angle, Alex is on the left and Geddy is on the right.
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:57:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: skooc@earthlink.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Tears?
Message-ID: <199610231757.KAA21886@denmark.it.earthlink.net>
At 10:10 AM 10/23/96 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Those of you familiar with Tori Amos and/or the DT Mind Control bootleg,
>perhaps you can explain what the deal is with the tune "Tears" on Mind
>Control. I read that it's supposed to be a Tori cover, but I don't see that
>song listed on any of her albums....yet it sounds so familiar....like Rush's
>"Rivendell" or something.
Tears is a Rush song and is on 2112.
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:59:16 -0500
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1960
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.10.23.12.59.16.8350.14661@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
Hey,
Did anyone get a dat tape of the G3 show in DALLAS TX?
I was at the show, and stood in a VERY long line. I did
see some other Ytsejam t-shirts. (I saw about 4-5 there).
but a DAT tape of the show would be great.
Is the G3 show making it to ATLANTA? or
surrounding area...
see ya
todd
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:06:19 -0300
From: Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@vwc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com, Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1960
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961023140629.28bfd2d4@mailhost.vwc.edu>
E-man wrote:
<< Oh no!!! It really breaks my heart to see that someone feels that they need
to part with goodies like those. I made the mistake of selling stuff
once... It really eats me up inside every time I think about the stuff I've
sold in lean times... There are other ways to earn money and get out of
debt! Sell sperm (well you can't)... or eggs... look up Pharmakinetics in
the Yellow Pages... Just don't sell Subconsious or Tragedy/Comedy! >>
Well then, YOU try explaining to your parents how you managed to run through
$1300 in two months. ;) Actually, about half of it was for legitimate
expenses, but I still can't for the life of me figure where the rest of it
all went -- I can only account for about half of that. I need to learn how
to budget... or at least learn to say no once in a while when my friends
want to go to Denny's at 3am or to the mall. <G>
Besides which, I understand Portnoy's coming to Norfolk (FINALLY!!!). Need
to have money for that. (muhahahahaha) Currently I have $1 in my checking
account, $5 in savings. Don't think that'll get me in...
Mike Backof wrote:
<<10/23 Rusted Root (tonight at Towson State University)>>
Rusted Root kicks ASS! 'Nuff said.
Jaime the Dragon
"With the light in our eyes, it's hard to see
Holding on til we believe
I'm not touched, but I'm aching to be
I want you to come, walk this world with me..."
- Heather Nova
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:08:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" <mmahmed@mtu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: why????
Message-ID: <199610231808.OAA01674@colossus.csl.mtu.edu>
why do they have to have a new toure??
why is it have to be only five shows??
why in only that part of the world??
why am I at Michigan
why these kind of things always happen???
is there an end of this??
why Minhaz why???
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:00:14 -0500
From: Ryan Good <rtgood@students.wisc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Kinesis Progressive Label
Message-ID: <199610231855.NAA57316@audumla.students.wisc.edu>
Ok all of you prog heads out there, listen up.
I (Madison Student Radio Rep) was fortunate to listen to a copy of the
Kinesis label progressive music sampler.
I'll give you the list of the artists, and the web page address, and the
rest is up to you. CAUTION: Many of these artists are NOT LIKE Dream
Theater in many ways, but ARE LIKE them in other (that's my DTC). I'll tell
which ones may be of interest to you all.
1. Castanarc - "Peyote" from Journey to the East 4:34
2. Craft - "Leo" from Craft 8:36
3. Multi-Story - "The Wire" from East/West 5:56
4. Ken Watson - "Next X" from Assembly 5:35
5. Haze - "Ophelia" from In the End, 1978-1988 7:17
6. Fonya - "Bluefoot" from Soul Travels 5:55
7. Iluvatar - "Exodus" from Iluvatar 7:11
8. Cathedral (not the one you may have heard before) - "Pinocchio" from
Kingdom of Ends 10:06
9. However - "It's Good Fun" from Sudden Dusk 3:42
10. Earthstone - "In the Winter of Night" from Seed 10:56
11. Jeremy - excerpt from "Deep Sleep" from Pilgram's Journey 3:00
To begin, I'll have to tell you that none of these groups fit into
the Progressive Metal category (ie DT, FW, QR, LV, and so on). These are
more Genesis, Ozric Tentacles, maybe neo-prog rock related (My stepmom would
refer to the music as "dreamy"). Many of the artists (remember, this is
after like 2 listens MAX) remind me of Magna Carta's Enchant, Cairo, and
World Trade. More song and texture oriented, rather than pure power like we
seem to like.
The first must have of these groups is Iluvatar (big i, little l,
uvatar, I don't know how to pronounce it). Very nice feel to the tune.
Laid back, but with feeling, which is great.
Another out-standing group is Castanarc. Very Yesish, Enchantish.
Still somewhat subdued, but honestly, would probably sound even more
impressive in an altered state (read: stoned). The second half of this
tune, Peyote, is very triumphant, worth checking out.
DISCLAIMER: The personal opinions of Ryan Good are not necessarily those of
Madison Student Radio, and so on, I think you understand what I mean.
Check out the web page of Kinesis at http://www.kinesiscd.com
e-mail for info at: info@kinesiscd.com
If anyone has comments, please post so other Ytsejammers know what's up.
The sampler is available for purchase, as well as any of
_____________________________________________________
"I'm pushing my brain to think a little harder. To learn from the simple
and question the complex. If logic and reason are the gods that you
follow, then you'll drown in your soul's emptiness"
--Echolyn, "As the World"
_____________________________________________________
Ryan Good - Madison Student Radio; Music Stapher
the Unofficial-Official Madison Progressive Rock Monster
Home - 608-258-1587
Pocket - 1-888-845-1150
"Madison Student Radio: It's coming!"
MSR Homepage: www.msr.org
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:00:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Kick-ass stickers
Message-ID: <199610231900.PAA18047@beasley.cris.com>
I just got a wad of DT stickers in the mail from fellow Jammer Todd S.
(mystery last-name). They are advertised on the http://www.dreamt.org page,
and the scan of the sticker (the new one) is exactly what it looks like
(except for maybe the size, depending on your screen's resolution). I don't
know a whole lot about sticker-quality and such, but this one certainly
seems to be built to last. I recommend that you all go to that page and
check them out, then pick up a bunch. I ordered 10, and if you're lucky like
me, maybe you too will get a little "bonus" from Todd ;-)
Later,
-Rick
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:27:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Yitz-see-jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Sorry to do this but...
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961023152700.18086J-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
..can mike bahr PLEASE e-mail me? thanks.
____________________________________________
michael b. ostrich
musical advisor/consultant
e-mail: syrinx@dreamt.org
syrinx@wicked.stigmata.org
syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
"..and once you gift the gift away there's nothing you can do
about it. nothing that you do or say can change the way i feel about
it. try to look inside of me to find the gift that i am giving. glad
you had a chance to see the gift that i'm delivering."
- bob mould.
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:31:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: east coast bastards
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.93.961023122958.1695D-100000@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu>
Everybody who lives on the east coast near Poughkeepsie,
Island, New Haven, Providence, or Old Bridge are lucky
bastards!!! ARGHHHHHHHHHH!
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:29:41 -0600 (CST)
From: "Roland (Shred) Rupp" <al765518@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Bootlegs (I wanna trade)
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.961023142552.97389D-100000@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
I want to know if Dream Theater demos as Majesty are good, and if anyone
has Kevin's demos...
I saw Majesty demos at 150 pesos (like 22 US dollars) is the price ok?
I want to get some bootlegs from DT or some videos...
I dont have nothing rare but the silent man single with Eve and Take the
Time (demo version)
If anyone wants to trade something for that, or Extreme bootlegs, ok,
just email me...
I have Pearl Jam, Samshing Pumpkins and Red Hot Chili Peppers bootlegs too...
I have some Colombian rock Cds or I can get you any CD from any mexican
group (im from Mexico)
Thanks...
Visit The Great Extreme Page (With news, sound clips and the mailing list) at:
http://mars.superlink.net/user/jkramer/extreme.html
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:32:15 -0300
From: Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@vwc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Bidding update
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961023163226.27df2288@mailhost.vwc.edu>
Arright, here's the bidding status thus far:
Tragedy/Comedy is currently going for $70.
Subconscious is, at the moment, $100.
No other offers for the Savatage vinyl, and none period for the Ryche
records... may have to post that over on Screaming In Digital.
I'm not sure when I'll make a decision... probably tomorrow or Friday,
Monday at the *absolute* latest, and I'll post who got what then. :)
Jaime the Dragon
"With the light in our eyes, it's hard to see
Holding on til we believe
I'm not touched, but I'm aching to be
I want you to come, walk this world with me..."
- Heather Nova
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:26:15 -0500
From: "Mike Patrick" <mpatrick@netusa1.net>
To: "DT" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Mike Bahr - MIA?
Message-ID: <199610231937.PAA28642@gatem02.netusa1.net>
Hey, where does Mike hang out these days? Did I miss something? It's been
over a year since I've been on the 'Jam, but back then he used to post his
shameless self-promotion :) EVERY day. Now that I've got some money
burning a hold in my pocket, he's nowhere to be found. What up with that?
Mike
mpatrick@netusa1.net
mepatrick@iquest.net
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:35:10 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: da e-man, n' da DT shows
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961023203510.006cb22c@mail.inlink.com>
>
>Gee, can you tell I FUCKING HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE CALL ME KIM!!!!!! :)
calm down 'kim :) slow deep breaths :)
>
>>>Sat. December 14th - Birch Hill - Old Bridge, NJ
>
among various other dates.... the point is- I HATE ST LOUIS, MISERY! bleah.
someone better get some sweet DATs of this for me :) ok, so who's helping
me organize a JP clinic in my living room followed by a cookout and DT
concert in my back yard? :) everyone's invited, all i ask is that when the
cops ask, i'm not the one in charge :)
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:53:12 -0400 (AST)
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: NO!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <199610232053.QAA21079@mail.caribe.net>
>I will be in St Maarten at that time. I guess the Caribbean is a
>consolation for missing the shows... Um, is it?????
>
Give me Dt anytime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ... well maybe because i live in
the caribbean... hehe .. but if i could.. i would go to any of the
shows.,.even if i had to take 2 planes on the same day but i have no$$
We Can Learn From the past..but those days are gone..
We can hope for the future..but there may not be one...
DREAM THEATER: A CHANGE OF SEASONS
WOWOWOWWWWWW hoooo wowoW WOWWwwwwww hoooo -Devin Townsend
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:59:47 -0400 (AST)
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dt Video (important) (at least for me) hehe
Message-ID: <199610232059.QAA21350@mail.caribe.net>
Ok..ive posted this like 3 times.. um.. anybody who has a copy of
the Awake Japan PPV video..please email me... i had a copy but it wore out...
We Can Learn From the past..but those days are gone..
We can hope for the future..but there may not be one...
DREAM THEATER: A CHANGE OF SEASONS
WOWOWOWWWWWW hoooo wowoW WOWWwwwwww hoooo -Devin Townsend
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