YTSEJAM Digest 1972
Today's Topics:
1) Re: tool and Bill Hicks (NDTC)
by "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
2) answer for bafu
by Scott Luttringer <95fa467@dvc.edu>
3) Re: Fates Warning Information (NDTC)
by drkhoe@squirm.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
4) Itchy a heavyweight ? Nah...
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
5) PROG-METAL radio setlist #5.......
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
6) which dt is better?
by John W Happe <jared@stlnet.com>
7) Scaring away, DT sucks, typing, Rush
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
8) Con
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
9) best place to see DT
by M_WASHKE@LVC.EDU
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1952
by "Daedalus (a wiery traveler)" <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
11) Mulcahy's
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
12) Not read: RE: Help Locating CD's
by Aram <aram.van.schoonderwalt@tip.nl>
13) Dec. 4th show
by rod@nlnet.nf.ca (Jeff Taylor)
14) Birch Hill '96
by gregory slang <slanggm@jmu.edu>
15) Lacking show info...
by Allen Karger <akarger@bu.edu>
16) Re: Birch Hill '96
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
17) Re: THE BEST OF PROG. ROCK/METAL????
by "DREG Records" <DREG@hutman.com>
18) Test Mail
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 01:03:42 +0000
From: "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: tool and Bill Hicks (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199610260708.BAA24421@cyberhighway.net>
> I picked up the new TOOL cd, and me and a friend are becoming
> annoyed at who is that guy Bill Hicks. It sounds familiar, but I can't
> place it. If anyone knows, I would be extremely thankful if you let me
My sophmore P.E. teacher's name was Bill Hicks. You know, the kind
that made you do squats until you couldn't bend your legs anymore and
make you run laps till you puke. Hold down one nostril and blow snot
out the other, pick his ear with a key sort of guy. Is it me or are
all P.E. teachers like this?
Chuck Reis a.k.a. "The Other Ibanez"
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
"I feel kinda spooky..."
-- The Silent Man
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 01:21:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Luttringer <95fa467@dvc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: answer for bafu
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961026011549.5514A-100000@viking.dvc.edu>
Bafu asked what the .sig at the end of Mythreindeer's post meant, and he
told me once. It is something like, "A light shines on our meeting." Or
something close to that.
I just wanted to back up Bafu on this.one. I know that some of you on
the jam are friends with this guy, but when I met him at the con, he was
one of the most unfriendly people I met there. I won't miss this guy at
all. Actually, I'll bet both of these clowns will be back soon, once they
realize the mistake they made. Then again, maybe they really are that
fucking stupid.....
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Scott Luttringer zimbob@dreamt.org
"For the first time in a long time...everything was right in my
world...and then I woke up." Dream Theater "A Fortune In Lies"
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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 01:42:14 -0800
From: drkhoe@squirm.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Fates Warning Information (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199604060942.BAA32708@squirm.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, "Kevin W. Madden" said:
>According to Metal Blade, the band will enter the Carriage House Studio in
>CT. on November 13th. Producing will be Terry Brown, whom you know as being
>the long time Rush producer, I am sure...not to mention he has previously
>worked with Fates.
>Thanksgiving, indeed.
>
>Kevin
>
>GO WINGS!!
>GO PACKERS!!
>GO RED!!
Yeah... he produced Parallels if I'm not mistaken, which is so far the
best sounding Fates album in my opinion...
-The Doc
-- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: drkhoe@gmsnet.com #$%#$#$% *$%&%#$* Global Micro Solutions #$#$#@@# *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ $%#$#$## http://www.gmsnet.com/progmetal #$#$@#@@------------------------------
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 12:45:23 +-100 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'The Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Itchy a heavyweight ? Nah... Message-ID: <01BBC33E.4FA62DA0@Dukat.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Steve "Bafu Vai" Borzilleri wrote :
> As if it weren't nasty enough with heavyweights like Scott Cook, Chris > Ptacek, and Mark Bredius locking horns... [snip]
First off, please don't put my name in the same sentence as scott's... Secondly, I get the impression you (and probably some others too) think I'm a YtseJerk waiting to flame someone's ass off... I'm not like that at all... I've been on this list for 11 months now, and it's not the same place it was when I joined... Whenever I see a post from someone who might make things even worse, I can't help 'responding'... Sorry... At least *my* intentions are to make things better on the 'Jam... Scott's just trying to piss everyone off, imo... (see below)
>> My Esteemed Opinion - don't waste your cash on the "E" bands! > > Yeah! Death to Echolyn! Enya! Etheridge! Elfman! Estefan! > Electric Light Orchestra! The Eagles! The Eurythmics! Burn them all! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hey !!! Stop that !!! ELO has been one of my favourite bands for 17 years now !!! They Ruled when I saw them live in '81... I was 10 :-> _____
Craig Wuthrich asked on Jam #1958 :
> Hey Skadz how many people are on the jam and how does that number > compare with max and min?
Uh... about 800, right Skadz ? About the same amount of people who are subscribed to the Marillion mailinglist (also on the ax.com server). Around 40 of them are subscribed to both lists :-) _____
Scott Cook bitched :
> If anyone knows Frank or John Cahill, tell them I said good fucking > riddance!
You *can* e-mail them privately, and tell them yourself... _____
Btw, I will always love this list for being part of the reason why I finally checked out Tori Amos early this year :-) Just thought I'd mention that :-)
Mark _______________________________________________________itchy@dreamt.org__ All of us get lost in the darkness _ _____ ___ _ _ _ _ Dreamers learn to steer by the stars (`)(_```_)/``_)(`)_(`)(`)_(`) All of us do time in the gutter RUSH | | ) ( ( (_ | _ | \_ / Dreamers turn to look at the cars THE PASS (_) (_) \___)(_) (_) (__/ ____________________________________________________bredius@globalxs.nl__ Maintainer of the Official Freaks and Ytsejam "Most Frequent Poster List" URL: http://www.globalxs.nl/home/b/bredius/
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 11:40:05 -0400 From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: PROG-METAL radio setlist #5....... Message-ID: <327230D5.D4E@earthlink.net>
Whats up people, This week's show (student radio at the College of Mount St. Vincent in the Bronx) was by far my most enjoyable one because I finally got a legitimate request!!! (not some turd asking for Green Day)...What happened was I had just given an intro. to GAMMA RAY's "Land of the Free" (history and stuff, etc.) and was about 30 sec. into the song when the phone in the studio rang and the guy asked for a request. Already prepared for the worst I said "shoot", he goes , "How 'bout some more GAMMA RAY?" Now since I had given up on my brain-dead audience so far i thought this was just a joke from one of my classmates who thinks that "prog" is just a city in Europe. I said, "Yeah, ha ha...real funny!!" He was like," Umm, no I mean it, do you have GAMMA RAY?" I wanted to test him so I said what album (something only fans would know) and he said, "you have "Sigh No More"?..Kai Hansen is my favorite guitarist!" I nearly dropped the phone when I heard that...Yes!! There is hope for America after all!! I asked him how he knew them and all that good stuff! He said, "You're the only DJ I've ever heard that plays this...I don't know anyone else who is into this!" I thought that was awesome! What was funny was that he was just getting into the music and said," I wish they had more albums" and then I told him that GAMMA RAY had about 6-7 other releases and he flipped. Then I asked him if he had HELLOWEEN's "Walls of Jericho" and "Keepers 1 & 2" and he said (I'll never forget this!!) "Wait..you mean the holiday Halloween..who are they?" Ahh..the glory of discovery! He then said ,"You know STRATOVARIUS..they have a great guitarist" I was like, "Yep..I have all five" He asked about DREAM THEATER and RAGE (of all bands)..I just couldn't believe what I was hearing...At the most I expected someone to request QUEENSRYCHE or something...not friggin' GAMMA RAY or STATOVARIUS!!!! This is America after all and this music isn't exactly the most popular shit on the air waves ya know! I predict that in 5 years I WILL see GAMMA RAY and BLIND GUARDIAN on US soil. I can dream damnit!!!!
Here ya go:
ICED EARTH "Dante's inferno" <--In all of its 16-minute glory! FATES WARNING: "Static Acts" NEVERMORE: "C.B.F." KING DIAMOND: "Mother's getting Weaker" HELLOWEEN: "Steel Tormentor" CRIMSON GLORY: "Where Dragons Rule" ANNIHILATOR: "Brain Dance" THOUGHT INDUSTRY: "Third Eye" MEGADETH: "Tornado Of Souls"
**news**
ELDRITCH: "Incurably Ill" ELDRITCH: "Deaf And The Blind" HELSTAR: "To Sleep, Per Chance To Scream" HELSTAR: "Harker's Tale (Mass Of Death)" GAMMA RAY: "Land Of The Free" IRON MAIDEN: "Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner" GAMMA RAY: "Rebellion In Dreamland" <---played this as the guy's request CONCEPTION: "War Of Hate"
I love this music!
cheers, Carlo (aka Fates, aka YtseSatan) -- _ __| |__ "When you know that your time is close at hand |__ __| maybe then you'll begin to understand | | Life down here is just a strange illusion." | | |_|
--IRON MAIDEN (Hallowed Be Thy Name)
"Neo-classical, progressive, melodic metal"
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 12:00:37 -0700 From: John W Happe <jared@stlnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: which dt is better? Message-ID: <32725FD4.1011@stlnet.com>
us all being dt fans someone saying wich cd is better awake are images , most people would say well there both dt cds and there both the best and who could you even say that! Well im trying to break open the music and see witch one was truly better in my opinion on awake james labrie voice is much better he not only uses his high voice but he tries out the lower and heavier side of his voice , they also use the heavy palm muting like on caught in a web , lie and the mirror wich i also like better , but when it comes right down to it i think images is a better cd i think it is put together better and the insturmentals are mush better like on take the time , in the middle they have a great instrumental , i love that part. and on learning to live all the song is put together great with the time sigs changing rapidly through the whole song making very complicating , and someting that isnt done by many groups , some of the sigs they use are 15/8 14/8 7/8 10/4 9/4 wich they are constantly switching back and forth . learning to live has that great part where the piano plays the part from wait for sleep and then the rest of the band comes in , that is the coolest part in the whole cd. in images they also put together the songs more like chopan , are bathovan would . i rate images on a scale from 1-10 a 10 and awake a 9.999999999999999999 . i hope the new cd is a mixture between the 2.any opinions on the cds?
happe
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 11:20:53 -0700 From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Scaring away, DT sucks, typing, Rush Message-ID: <32725685.9C3@dreamt.org>
>I think someone said something like "all the flames are scaring away new >jammers.." YOU made it? How about me?! I lurked for a while, not really reading the jams, but when I first posted, I believe I made some kind of reference to Derek's sexuality, and the ENTIRE jam seemed to hate me. How do you think I felt? I could've gotten scared away, but I went on to post a gazillion times a day and look at me now! WOHOOO!
>"Dream Theater sucks and REM is better. You know why? Because REM has >been >on Rolling Stone many times. And what about your favorite band Dream >Theater? They have never been on the cover." hehe brandon. I hear you. It's like that guy on the 311 newsgruop saying Rage was better than Dream Theater because they haven't had a hit single in years.
>PS I can't type. If anyone read my last post I said box instead of vox, >meaning vocals. Please bear with the fact that I type WAAAAAAAY too >fast >for my level of technical proficiency. :) yeha me too. Anyone who has neen on irc in a while knows tahat!
PS. To this whole "You guys must see this" or whatever it was about the rush list, I totally missed the original post. Could someone let me know what it was all about?
======================================================================== Andy Miller:I'm one of the Andy Millers Me: Hi. I'm DreamNDay Andy:Damn! You post every day! It's like your job! October 19, 1996, Albany NY later--------------Brian 39 DAYS TILL DT HITS UPSTATE NY!! ========================================================================
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 11:05:21 -0700 From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Con Message-ID: <327252E1.76A8@dreamt.org>
Ok, everyone, I haven't really gotten much of a response to the con idea. I have a feeling that this is because not many of you are going to the Poughkeepsie show, either because it's too far away, or you don't know where it is, or you just can't make it there on a wednesday night. Let me tell you that Poughkeepsie is just a couple of hours north of New York City. If you have teh money, I would reccomend going to as many Christmas shows as you can, as they are playing new materials and have been known to change their setlist night by night. Also, The Chance is really a good club. It's small, it's intimate, and you can almost always meet the bands that play there after the show. For anyone like myself who was unable to go to the holiday shows last year because they are under 18, the age limit at The Chance is 16, but they do not ID you unless you are going to be drinking. I hope that some more people want to come to the show and possibly a little get together before it. If I don't get too many people to show, I guess myself and the few people that are interested in this idea will just meet and hang out for an hour or two before the show. ======================================================================== Andy Miller:I'm one of the Andy Millers Me: Hi. I'm DreamNDay Andy:Damn! You post every day! It's like your job! October 19, 1996, Albany NY later--------------Brian 39 DAYS TILL DT HITS UPSTATE NY!! ========================================================================
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 11:11:29 -0400 (EDT) From: M_WASHKE@LVC.EDU To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: best place to see DT Message-ID: <961026111129.af19f@LVC.EDU>
Michael Kizer, You wrote in the last jam wanting to know the best place to see DT. I went to see them at the Birch Hill last year and I felt it was an amazing show. A friend that went with me saw them the night before and said they were better in the Birch Hill. When I talked to Portnoy at Derek's party he even said he like the Birch Hill the best of all the Christmas shows. Just be ready to get squashed in the crowd wherever you go. I'm going to the Birch Hill this year again. Well, it is the closest to me too. Any questions? e-mail me.
Mike Washkevich
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:31:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daedalus (a wiery traveler)" <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1952 Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.961026142456.25506A-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
Holy shit!!!!!!!!!!! I had my real-life guitar wet-dream last night! WE MISSED VAI!!!! God damn the fucking traffic in NY!!! SF isn't even that bad. But oh well. Eric was amazing. Joe sucked at first and then played some good stuff IE. Surfing. Not very creative endings, though. Every one of them was first one end power-chord-drum-roll-wank-off-solo and then another final chord. That gets boring after a while. When Eric busted into cliffs, I could have creamed in my jeans right there. But I have two words for anyone: Stew Ham. What the fuck?!!!!! I've never heard such an awesome bass solo! He makes McAlpine's bassist look stupid. Jesus! I don't play bass, but I know that that shit was just as impressive as Satriani's best solo of the night. That man is amazing. The end jam was pretty good, too. I loved how they all played "Red House." Eric and Joe really oughtn't sing so much though. Could someone who's heard MacAlpine, Moore, and the g3 boys please email privately and tell me what to look for in Satriani's stuff? I'm a shred phan, but I don't see why Joe is so amazing. I think Vai and Johnson play him under the table. I don't want to start a flame war, but please gently guide me. OK. Too much band width wasted. Be well and take care. Matt B
"Three men can keep a secret if two of them are dead." (Ben Franklin)
"The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams College)
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:34:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mulcahy's Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.961026142226.9237E-100000@oak.liii.com>
I was at Mulcahy's the other night and they didn't have any info about the Dream Theater show.
A few observations:
1- This place has less floor space than Birch Hill. It's mainly a sports bar, so they leave a sports game on the monitors (which are all over) during the band's performance. Not really that annoying if it's an important game :) The place is pretty big, but the bar areas take up about 75% of the club.
2- They told me that ALL shows at Mulcahy's are 21 and over.
3- They have tons of security. I'm not sure if this is always the case since Marshall Tucker was playing and maybe they were expecting a rowdy crowd. I did notice that most of the place was drunk even before the opening band went on.
4- It's only 5 minutes from my house :)
Andy
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Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 13:47:15 +-100 From: Aram <aram.van.schoonderwalt@tip.nl> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Not read: RE: Help Locating CD's Message-ID: <01BBC369.905FCB00@ede30.pop.tip.nl>
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 15:37:53 -0300 From: rod@nlnet.nf.ca (Jeff Taylor) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dec. 4th show Message-ID: <199610261836.QAA22771@terra.nlnet.nf.ca>
To anyone who will be attending the Dec. 4th DT show (I can't remember where because I deleted the Jam that had that info) and also plans on taping the show, could you please e-mail me privately? I would love to get a copy of that show, good or bad, because that's my birthday, but being here in Labrador I don't think it's very likely that I'll be able to be there in person.
Thanks in advance, Jeff Taylor
"We have assumed control..."
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:37:38 -0400 (EDT) From: gregory slang <slanggm@jmu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Birch Hill '96 Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.93.961026143532.19897A-100000@falcon.jmu.edu>
I haven't been reading too much into the jam of late. Could a kind jammer please tell me if DT will indeed be playing Birch Hill on the 14th and if or when the tickets are going on sale? I'd be much appreciative.
-- Greg, <slanggm@jmu.edu>
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:43:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Allen Karger <akarger@bu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lacking show info... Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9610261427.A98820-0100000@acs2.bu.edu>
Hey all, You can always count on the important information showing when you have too much homework. I skipped the Jam for a few days and I missed all of the news on the December shows. So, I ask any of you out there who care to help...What is the info on getting tix for the shows? When do they go (or have they already gone) on sale? Are there phone numbers for ordering? I checked the "lifting Shadows" web page but it is a bit slim on real info. Thanks all. Adios, Allen K. akarger@bu.edu
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:47:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: gregory slang <slanggm@jmu.edu> Subject: Re: Birch Hill '96 Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961026144642.314A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> I haven't been reading too much into the jam of late. Could a kind jammer > please tell me if DT will indeed be playing Birch Hill on the 14th and if > or when the tickets are going on sale? I'd be much appreciative.
As of right now, we don't know. There are reports to the 7th or the 14th. I assume we should wait a week and see what happens. I'll call Birch Hill in the middle of next week to see if they have any answers.
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 10:59:01 +0000 From: "DREG Records" <DREG@hutman.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: THE BEST OF PROG. ROCK/METAL???? Message-ID: <1365795417-12536730@hutman.com>
> From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> > > At 07:10 PM 10/24/96 -0700, you wrote: > >I was wondering if there is a "Best of" Progressive Rock/Metal CD(s) > >around....anywhere. Something of like the best of the best from a variety > >of prog. artists, from the past and present. > > > You can check out the best of the Internet Prog Bands.. called "Dregs Of > The Internet" ..its on the dreg home page.. which i dont know the adress to > heheh
That would be:
Thanks!
-steve DREG Records
************************************************** DREG homepage: http://www.hutman.com/dreg/
Available now:
* "DREGs of the Internet - Vol 1" - a dozen of the internet's best independent progressive rock & metal bands... * Facade's "fade" - original progressive rock... * FREE Dream Theater Theme for Windows 95 Plus! **************************************************
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 15:24:57 -0400 From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Test Mail Message-ID: <199610261924.PAA05993@wicked.stigmata.org>
Just testing
Skadz
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