YTSEJAM Digest 1971
Today's Topics:
1) Tolkien and Elvish
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1967
by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
3) live DT, triple M, DT peer pressure
by John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
4) tape trading
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
5) DT Winter Shows - Venues
by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
6) Trading{please read}
by John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
7) Re: THE BEST OF PROG. ROCK/METAL????
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
8) Re: DT at Birch Hill
by Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
9) tool and Bill Hicks (NDTC)
by Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1970
by Madelaine <maddy@enteract.com>
11) TDoE-->T/C-->Live Images, Eroto'a a tone poem?, ACoS, Ticketbastard
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
12) iRock - prog radio on internet!
by Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
13) poll
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
14) Re: tool and Bill Hicks (NDTC)
by Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
15) NOOO!!! (Bathetic Blubberings of a Big Baby)
by robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 18:29:07 -0400
From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Tolkien and Elvish
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961025222907.2dd7c516@pop.negia.net>
Greetings, Ytsejammers (tm)...
Mithrandir bid us goodbye with:
>> Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Mithrandir
and Bafu wants to know:
>Since this is probably the last time we're going to see this line (unless
>someone puts it in their .sig), can someone PLEASE tell me what it means?
>A direct translation is okay, but how is this phrase supposed to express
>"farewell?"
"Elen sila lumenn omentilmo," a direct quote from Tolkien's _Lord of the
Rings_, is Elvish for "a star shines on the hour of our meeting."
Interestingly enough, it was usually used to greet someone when meeting them
for the first time, or when meeting an old and dear friend.
Why Mithrandir (a pale imitation of the REAL Mithrandir, AKA Gandalf the
Grey) chose to say goodbye with it, I cannot guess.
DT content: Can somebody who's seen the boyz in concert tell me what the
show's like? I haven't been lucky enough to catch 'em yet, though you can
bet I will this time around...
Cheers,
Phil
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Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net
"Jesus saves...
...but Lemieux picks up the rebound and SCORES!!!!!!"
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 15:30:25 -0700
From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1967
Message-ID: <199610252230.PAA13002@dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com>
Sorry about YJ 1967, don't know what happened there. I'm considering
switching Inet providers. No, I did not do that on purpose, and Chris...it comes
naturally.
Here's what I wanted to say:
}From: svjohnson@amoco.com
} Michael C. ...you must do this once a year...kinda like Christmas,
} huh? Your rhetoric is just plain neanderthalithic (sound it out if
} you can't read it). I'd take this to private e-mail, but I think the
} asshole who wrote the joke and you both need to be made an example
} of.... blah blah blah....to those of you who may agree with the joke
} or "squeaky wheel" comments, fuck you.
Jeepers Steve, ever thought about laying off that crack pipe for a bit?
You know it distorts your perception of reality. You made an example, but
I don't believe it came off the way you intended. Try reading the book "How to
Win Friends and Influence People". This caveman couldn't find neanderthalithic
in my Word dictionary.
It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas.....
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
}From: Charlie Harrison
}Point well taken about all groups of people getting laughed at at
}different times or another. So when's the last time there's been a white
}joke that was offensive on the 'jam.
White people aren't funny they can't even try, cept maybe that dago Steve Borzilleri
aka Bafu Vai. BTW Steve you are Italian aren't you?
************ Ethnic Joke Ethnic Joke Ethnic Joke Ethnic Joke Ethnic Joke ***********
What sound does an Italian car make when it gets a flat?
wop wop wop
Anyone offended yet? Hmmmm, I'll try again later.
}It makes me mad and I had some choice words because somebody thought that
}they were really slick in trying to get people to laugh at a totally offensive
}joke just b/c they assumed that a Black or a Latino couldn't possibly like DT.
}That's racism in itself.
No sir, that's a generalization, there's a big difference between that and racism IMO.
racism
noun
1. The belief that some races are inherently superior to others.
2. Discrimination based on race.
Websters II New Riverside Dictionary Copyright ) 1984 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
}What, am I not smart enought to follow the time changes?
Well Charlie, you did spell enough wrong. :)
Actually black musicians are some of the more accomplished musicians, e.g. Omar Hakim.
Ever hear this guy play drums? Listen to John Scofield's "Still Warm", an incredible
display of talent. He also played w/Sting and many other studio musicians as well as
some solo efforts.
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Hey this cutting and pasting really works GREAT!
}Matt writes:
> can someone on this list lay down for me in concrete terms what he
>big deal is with time changes? everyone keeps raving about how wonderful
>various bands are because the keep making time changes... does that ability
>alone really add so much to music?
I know a lot of you's covered this already, but since I think I'm the one who
started this topic THIS time please indulge me.
One of my major attractions to DT is their almost natural ability to defy the norm
when composing their music. As a musician, (though a lowly drummer) I'm challenged by
their change-ups and admire their ability to multitask for lack of a better term, in
any given song/composition. A good example would be The Mirror. The transitions
in Mirror are seamless IMO. A drummer is always concerned with time keeping and
precision and those elements are a challenge when employing these time changes. To
me it's a big deal and it shows that MP has great mastery over joining two grooves
(sometimes opposing) together without a hitch. Learning to Live is a prime example
of how MP has got the math down in the rhythms he executes. Hear the drummer get
wicked...... Sorry, I could communicate this to you in concrete terms, I don't/can't
write what he does though I can copy it.
Hefelunks and woozels - they steal hunny.
Michael C.
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 18:36:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: live DT, triple M, DT peer pressure
Message-ID: <199610252236.SAA15376@beasley.cris.com>
Henrik Gustafsson wrote:
>To start with Dream Theater, then you busy ones can skip the rest, I want to
>give my comment on the aCoS. I completely agree with the ones that are
>saying they like the "bootleg"-versions more.
[snipsnip] [chopchop]
>Do any of you "new" Dt-fan feel the same about aCoS? Perhaps it's just because
>we vets (I've been around since -92) have heard the original version and
>fallen in love with that one, and due to that this new is something like a
>cover.
I only started listening to DT in Dec. 95(less than a year). I almost
always like DT's better when their played live. So I like the
"bootleg"-version better. But I like to listen to ACoS the CD for the song
and DT doing live covers of other songs. Funny thing is I've never seen DT
live and in person(besides JP), yet. Here I come Bitch Hell! :)
>Finally I think Mojoman/Mithrandir and Mindcrimer really had something to
say. >I don't agree, but we must think of what we are typing, and if it is
of any
>interest to ALL, and can't go private. And it is nice to find a "sober" view
>of DT, since we're too deep down, to even dare to criticize them. If you
>really ask yourself, you'll find out if you like DT, or if you just want to
>like DT.
Okay Mojoman/Mithrandir farewell posts had nothing to do with DT, they were
talkiing to us and not DT. Mojoman suggested that we are just bunch of
littlesexhungrycomputerlovingmanicfansthatDTisashamedtobeseenwith, or in
plain he was insulting us! Mithrandir didn't say so much be did insult the
list(but the not the people).
Mindcrimer, is a touchy subject here. I don't know if you were on here when
we had dicussions on him but it gets ugly. We all make fun of him, and he
can't defend himself. If you want to really see what Mindcrimer has to say
go to the queensryche newsgroup and just read his posts that make fun of
Adam Cook, Pat Daugherty, or whoever saids something that Mindcrimer
disagrees with.
And about the last sentence, that has been discussed on here before. I
remember most people said they liked DT for their music but they also liked
DT because so few people have heard of them, too. But they said that they
all liked DT mainly because of music. So, I don't think anyone here likes
DT because all of their friends are listening to them. You know I can't even
see that happening.
John McCabe "I think Im getting stupid here"
caber1@cris.com ~Mojoman(aka Penis-Hater)
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 18:34:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: tape trading
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9610251828.G6257-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Big.Swifty@twav.com
> Subject: Tape Trading Etiquette
>
> Hi all! Friendly question here...does anyone know of a place on the web
> that has a list of "Do's" and "Don'ts" when swapping tapes with someone?
> A few months ago I had the privilege of trading with a wonderful 'jammer
> from Finland. I was unaware of details like "Don't Write On The
> J-Sleeve" and "Save Postage - Don't Mail Tape Cases." :) I know this
DO talk to the person you're trading with beforehand, and find out what
they prefer. Everyone's tastes are different, with respect to writing on
J cards, etc.
DON'T assume that everyone wants the same things (J cards, cases, etc)
that you do.
DON'T run with scissors. (Oh, wait, wrong list.)
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 96 14:47:05 PST
From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT Winter Shows - Venues
Message-ID: <9609258462.AA846283704@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
I am seriously considering flying out to the east coast for some of
these shows. Could some one please post about each of these venues
(positives and negatives). Which of the places do you think are the
better clubs to see DT in?
Any help, mucho appreciated,
~Mike
.~~~~~~~ Michael Kizer -- Computer Sciences Corporation (Tucson, AZ) ~~~~~~~.
| Email: mrkizer@ccgate.hac.com (preferred) -or- mkizer@goodnet.com |
| URL: http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer <--- Dream Theater Song Book here! |
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 18:53:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Trading{please read}
Message-ID: <199610252253.SAA18968@beasley.cris.com>
THIS POST IS ABOUT TRADING IF YOU DON'T TRADE THEN SKIP IT. IF YOU DO TRADE
PLEASE READ THIS. IF YOU HAVE EVER ENCOUNTERED A "BAD" TRADER PLEASE EMAIL
ME AT caber1@pop3.cris.com
Rick Audet wrote:
>Re: James Arin and Subconscious
>
>I emailed him a few months ago and after a while he finally sent me a form
>letter detailing his supposed Subconscious project. I never got around to
>ordering.
>
>Recently, I emailed him again to make sure he's still doing the Subconscious
>thang. No reply. Is it possible he belongs on John McCabe's "Baaad People
>List"? Let the Jammers decide! Speak!
So far no one has emailed me directly about bad traders. I have written
down which traders are still "in the process of completing a trade." So far
I have Al Balkewicz(who says he is going to complete the trade after almost
2 years!), Jermey Haynes aka Sue Moscardini(is this person still on the
jam?), and how CD Cellar adversities about stuff they don't have in
stock(anyone have the email address for them?). If there are _any_ mistakes
about these people or if you disagree with what I have here PLEASE email
ME(not the jam!).
I want to make this a kind of bad traders beware update. This could stop a
new trader from trading with a bad trader. Now I know I'm not the best
trader...
Just a month ago I made my first trade with someone on this list. And I
didn't send the tapes I dubbed out until a little over month after I got
mine from him. But he was patient with me, and just asked, "hey where are
those tapes?" I replied with with a big post about how I forgot(which I
did) and how I would have them out that day. Well, I missed the post office
by a minute or two. I then couldn't mail them the next day because of some
car failure(stupid chevy!). So I mailed them on Friday. And he didn't get
the tapes until Monday(when he should have gotten it on Friday). Well, over
the weekend he must have thought to himself "that stupid kid, he didn't send
the tapes." He must have felt so angry to be tricked in such a cowardly way.
I know that last sentence sounds funny but its the only way I can express
the feelings people go thru when they have been tricked by someone that they
thought they could trust. Well I don't want that thought to happen again to
anyone.
I know if are some circumstances were something comes up and you can't mail
out whatever it is you're trading but there is no excuse if you're just busy
for 3 months and with still the trade not being completed.
Also, what I'm trying to say here is if you've had troubles in the past but
the trade was completed, don't send it my way. This is because if the trade
was completed and that it was probabily that the person really couldn't mail
it. But I'm not going to make this list a list of names. Tell me what the
problem was. Because it might be that the person is sick or lost your real
address and email address. And I post about it every month or so with the
names of people and what they did. It will be a short sentence or two about
each person, just like the above was.
Also, I want both sides of the story send me the person's email address,
name, real address. And where did you meet this person(a.m.d-t, ystejam, etc.)
Oh yeah, almost forgot what this post was about JAMES ARIN. :) If you're
having trouble with him email me. Don't post it on the jam. I don't think
James even reads the jam. Also in the past talking about someone on the jam
gets weird. One person says they didn't get their stuff, and another person
will say wait. Neither person really knows what is happening. And the next
thing you know there's more people saying that they didn't get their stuff
and there's even more people saying wait. One side of the story *never*
gets told the "bad" trader's. This happened just a last week or so with
Marcel(the guy who is selling Capre Diem(sp?) and also with Tim Lodge(both
Tim and Marcel are sending out their CDs so just hold on to whose of you who
ordered from them) I will email these people on your behalf as a neutral
party and see whats going on. I'll post back a list of people if I get
anymore names besides the ones at the beginning of my post.
John McCabe "I think Im getting stupid here"
caber1@cris.com ~Mojoman(aka Penis-Hater)
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 18:51:50 -0400 (AST)
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: THE BEST OF PROG. ROCK/METAL????
Message-ID: <199610252251.SAA05878@mail.caribe.net>
At 07:10 PM 10/24/96 -0700, you wrote:
>I was wondering if there is a "Best of" Progressive Rock/Metal CD(s)
>around....anywhere. Something of like the best of the best from a variety
>of prog. artists, from the past and present.
>
You can check out the best of the Internet Prog Bands.. called "Dregs Of
The Internet" ..its on the dreg home page.. which i dont know the adress to
heheh
We Can Learn From the past..but those days are gone..
We can hope for the future..but there may not be one...
DREAM THEATER: A CHANGE OF SEASONS
WOWOWOWWWWWW hoooo wowoW WOWWwwwwww hoooo -Devin Townsend
Email: Calfaro@Caribe.net
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 19:30:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: DT at Birch Hill
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.961025192600.16559B-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
On Fri, 25 Oct 1996, Gary M. Gettier wrote:
> >Where exactly is Birch Hill in Jersey? Is anybody planning on going from
> >the Big Fruit of NYC? If anybody's got the number for Brich Hill, please
> >let me know. Thanks!
>
> Isn't this the place where they REALLY PACKED people into last time?
> Many people vowed to never go there again.
I almost fainted at the Birch Hill in December. Just too many damn people.
I think the capacity for the club is 8-900 and they let in about 1000-1200
people. Or something like that. I forget the exact numbers. But I'd go
there again if DT was there. And what da 'ya know? They are gonna be
playing there again. I guess I just feel like fainting again. I think I'd
go see Dream Theater if they were playing in a very small closet and they
were letting 200 people in. I'm just a fool that's all.
Brandon (Taco Belhai)
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 20:08:24 -0400
From: Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: tool and Bill Hicks (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199610260007.RAA04831@desiree.teleport.com>
I am extremely sorry for the lack of Dream Theater content.
I picked up the new TOOL cd, and me and a friend are becoming
annoyed at who is that guy Bill Hicks. It sounds familiar, but I can't
place it. If anyone knows, I would be extremely thankful if you let me
know, via private e-mail.
Oh, and the cd rocks too. (I've only listened to it once so far though)
Michelob
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 20:46:52 -0500
From: Madelaine <maddy@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1970
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961026014652.006ab10c@enteract.com>
WTF????!!!!! I just sped thru a jam that had about 98% useless content!!!
And if _THIS_ isn't a reason for a good mailbombing, I don't know what is...
:P
>Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 18:03:09 -0400 (EDT)
>From: "Gary M. Gettier" <gmg@mtolympus.ari.net>
>Subject: Looking for this prog and metal stuff
>
>This looks like as a good a place as any. I'm looking for this prog and
>metal stuff. My for sale/trade list is at the end.
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 96 18:57:48 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: TDoE-->T/C-->Live Images, Eroto'a a tone poem?, ACoS, Ticketbastard
Message-ID: <9610260157.AA05771@tengs1>
>I have only heard about these two popular boots, T/C and Dance of Eternity.
>Word has it that DoE is the best boot available. However, T/C is indeed a
>copy, with a cover as far as I know, and supposedly has equal fidelity to
>DoE. So if the fidelity is the same, what's so "cheap" about the copy?
That it's a copy !^)~ I have the boot "Live Images" which is a one
disc copy of TDoE. It doesn't have ACoS on it, but it does have
Eve (w/lyrics)/Pull Me Under. The semitransparent green case is *way*
cool. The thing that makes me cringe is the naked boy on the cover.
I guess pedarests are into bootlegging bootlegs, too.
Btw, would you be pissed if I offered my copy of Subconscious for $30?
*JUST KIDDING* everybody.
*****
>By my standards, Erotomania is not a "tone poem". Tone poems are works
>that tell a story. Things like 1812 by Tchaikovsky are often thought of
>as tone peoms. I (and I do mean myself only) dont think E, without
>V and TSM, tells a story. Sorry if you think it does....
How do you know it is not? Maybe this is something to ask one of the boyz.
_
I know Mojo (mo hoe?) wouldn't approve, but we don't have to worry about
that anymore now, do we? By the way, I think that crap Mith' had at the
end of his .sig was some funky sh*t from Lord of the Rings.
*****
>Henrik said something about being an "old-timer" and liking the original
>ACoS version better than the old one...
I'm an old-timer, too, and I never did know why you guys liked the
"original" ACoS. When we knew that they were going to release the EP,
I ran and listened to the original a few times so I'd be more familiar
with the material. Sure, there are one or two part that are better on
the old version, but as a whole, the new one leaves the old one in the
dust.
*****
>Hey everybody! I just called a few places, and I got my tickets for
>Toad's on the 6th....12.50 each plus $1 for credit cards. I also spoke to
>somebody at the Chance, and those go on sale tomorrow (SAT) for $15, $17
>redit cards.
You know, this is total bullsh*t. Businesses have to pay the credit
card company a _fee_ in order to take credit at their establishments.
This is why one used to see the credit vs. cash prices at gas stations.
One more way for a f*cking monopoly to have us bend over every time we
patronize it.
Zach
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 19:08:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: iRock - prog radio on internet!
Message-ID: <199610260208.TAA02981@fraser>
Hi,
sorry for the NDTC, but i thought that there would be people here who
are interested in this...
there is a web page that plays progressive rock (and selected non-prog bands)
over the internet via RealAudio or iWave. I checked out their setlists
and they are very impressive! I wish i could install realaudio on these
computers at school :)
anyway the url is: http://www.iRock.Com/main.html
tim
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 22:22:24 -0700
From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: poll
Message-ID: <3271A010.71A3@dreamt.org>
A few days ago, someone posted about some page where you can vote for
best and worst metal album, singer etc. Does anyone remember the URL?
========================================================================
Andy Miller:I'm one of the Andy Millers
Me: Hi. I'm DreamNDay
Andy:Damn! You post every day! It's like your job!
October 19, 1996, Albany NY
later--------------Brian
DAYS TILL DT HITS UPSTATE NY!!
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 01:12:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: tool and Bill Hicks (NDTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.961026010437.12309A-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>
On Fri, 25 Oct 1996, Mike Estok wrote:
> I picked up the new TOOL cd, and me and a friend are becoming
> annoyed at who is that guy Bill Hicks. It sounds familiar, but I can't
> place it. If anyone knows, I would be extremely thankful if you let me
Bill Hicks was a comedian who died (I think) in 1992. The band has stated
in interviews that they share some of his views and were inspired by him.
They dedicated their previous album "undertow" to him. And there are many
audio snippets of him talking on the new album.
Oh yeah, I forgot to say that Bill Hicks died of cancer.
Brandon (Taco Belhai)
REAL AND COMPLEX ANALYSIS I (10/21/96):
my math teacher: "I have your tests graded today and I want you to know
that they are not so good. In fact, I am really disappointed. But don't
worry...we're all on the same boat."
my classmate: "yeah...it's called the Titanic."
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 02:25:02 -0500
From: robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NOOO!!! (Bathetic Blubberings of a Big Baby)
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.10.26.2.25.2.2510543059.282159@bbs.icdc.com>
>2) The Birch Hill date on the 14th is going to be moved, probably to the 7th,
Geez! I'm going to see Rush on the 6th (7th row, center, BTW), and will
probably not be allowed to go to to shows in a row, considering they're
both "school nights" (Wednesday and Thursday). Stupid parents... Dammo
- how green is that valley, Hyffyth?
Posts *don't* get any better than Ytse-whines, huh?
And I need a MIDI writer program... WAAAH!
Wait a second... <slaps forehead> Rush is November, DT is *December*...
Don't I feel dumb now? Rhetorical, but yes, I feel a plum idiot (I
don't think he appreciates it much either). Whew. In the clear, eh?
I still need a MIDI writer program, though. DOUBLE WAAAAAHH!
Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap
"They come from the snowlands of Monhario... Or whatever." -- Adam Ford
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