YTSEJAM digest 1975

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Mon Oct 28 1996 - 12:44:12 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1975

    Today's Topics:

      1) Not read: Help Locating CD's
     by Scott Hunsaker <shunsa@timetrend.com>
      2) New Iced Earth/Steinway to Heaven, ISTR. III
     by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
      3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1974
     by "Richard A. Bond, Jr." <rickbond@concentric.net>
      4) Birch Hill
     by "Anthony N. Sciamanna" <st96d6z4@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu>
      5) Stuff
     by Kain <kain@caribe.net>
      6) torriiii
     by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
      7) Thanks...................................!!
     by Jennifer Adametz <Dreamline.7466@worldnet.att.net>
      8) Re: torriiii
     by Kain <kain@caribe.net>
      9) Re: New Iced Earth/Steinway to Heaven, ISTR. III
     by Kain <kain@caribe.net>
     10) Re: QR vs. DT
     by "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
     11) OK, THIS time it better get posted
     by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
     12) Re: Wake Up! boot
     by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
     13) Jason Becker Show Tickets... (NDTC)
     by "Brian M. Polka" <Brian.M.Polka@xnet.com>
     14) 24-7 Spyz/trade delays
     by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
     15) Me on crack?
     by robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
     16) Even trade anyone..
     by fish69@juno.com (James D Carey)
     17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1973
     by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
     18) favorites
     by Nick Guadagnoli <nguadagn@acme.csusb.edu>
     19) Fellow Jammers.
     by Jeff Stewart <stewaj01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu>
     20) Tori VH1 Crossroads
     by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
     21) Tour Dates!!!
     by Josh Sager <jsager@cygnus.rsabbs.com>

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    Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 22:23:29 -0600
    From: Scott Hunsaker <shunsa@timetrend.com>
    To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Not read: Help Locating CD's
    Message-ID: <01BBC43E.EC9932A0@user13.timetrend.com>

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    Date: Sun, 27 Oct 96 17:52:59 PST
    From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: New Iced Earth/Steinway to Heaven, ISTR. III
    Message-ID: <9610280152.AA25414@tengs1>

    I got the new Iced Earth CD "Dark Saga" as a present to myself.
    So far, I've listened to it once through. Very much like "Burnt
    Offerings", but with a little harder edge. Good stuff. If you
    like Iced Earth, get it!

    I also got "Steinway to Heaven". It sure is nice to hear a recording
    of classical music that has some _punch_. Cool. I wish they'd included
    the Allegretto (?) part of the "Moonlight" Sonata though. It's much
    more inspiring, in my opinion. Also, the Appasionata (one of the most
    kick-ass piano pieces ever written) would've been better than the
    Pathetique, but it's still all good.

    Then again, we know that this CD is just a money grab like the Working
    Man tribute.

    Rip rote:

    >third- DT's No Sleep Since Brooklyn/Instrumental III. i dig this. even
    tho chris's voice scared the shit out of my friend several times :) also,
    who the hell is that screaming on "7 mini guitar pieces" ?! i also really
    liked the charles manson picture on the actual cd, yeah that really fit well
    :) and who drew the cover?

            CM? I thought that was a picture of Mike Portnoy. I guess
            I'll have to take a closer look.

    Zach

    "I hate white people"

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    Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 21:26:18 -0800
    From: "Richard A. Bond, Jr." <rickbond@concentric.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1974
    Message-ID: <327443FA.6B76@concentric.net>

    > From: "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
    > I've had 2112 for a while now and it's ok, but nothing to call home about.
    > I finally gave in and picked up moving pictures for $9. While IMO the
    > versions of RB and YYZ on the tribute are much better than the originals,
    > there is some good stuff on MP. However, I still fail to see why everybody
    > says that Neil Peart is better than Mike. Am I missing something? Do I
    > have the 2 albums where he doesn't do any crazy drumming? I guess some of
    > his stuff is pretty advanced, but nothing that Mike couldn't do in his
    > sleep. I'm not flaming rush or anything, I'm just really trying to
    > understand why they are so popular.

    Let's just say that for one...Neil's been doing it since Mike was
    wearing diapers. I have to agree with you...I like Mike more, but I'm
    still in absolute awe over Neil...me being a drummer and all. :)

    Rick Bond

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    Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 21:40:53 -0500
    From: "Anthony N. Sciamanna" <st96d6z4@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Birch Hill
    Message-ID: <v03007800ae99c3042ec8@DialupEudora>

    If any jammers from Philly are going to the Birch Hill show please e-mail me.
    Thanks.

    ***********************************
    * Anthony Sciamanna *
    * Drums and Percussion *
    * CLOCKWORK *
    * st96d6z4@drexel.post.edu *
    * clkwrk@erols.com *
    ***********************************

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    Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 22:43:36 -0500
    From: Kain <kain@caribe.net>
    To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Stuff
    Message-ID: <32742BE8.22D9@caribe.net>

    Hey I'm sorry for this (please flame privately :)) but since you guys
    are the ones who got me into Marillion and now Rush, I was wondering,
    why did Fish leave Marillion in the first place? I know this must (it
    is) be old, but I really want to know. Not that he's better than Steve,
    just wondering. Just got Rush's Chronicles....man this guys rule. A lot
    of their songs are from '74 and they rock! I had thought very highly of
    WM, but now I have WM even higher. Very good work from the guys
    tributing. But nothing like Rush themselves.
    Next is Tori Amos' Little Earthquakes :)

    DTC- Man do I hate all you smartasses who can(and will) go to DT's
    presentations in December :)

    Kain
    P.S. Rush is awesome....

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    Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:55:48 -0600
    From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
    To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: torriiii
    Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961028025548.006db498@mail.inlink.com>

    >
    >Next is Tori Amos' Little Earthquakes :)

    speaking of tori, i just picked up a tori boot from the Little Earthquakes
    tour, which i also happen to be listening to :) Very very cool to hear in
    concert, just her and a piano and all that... simply amazing really. If you
    like tori's studio stuff gotta pick up a boot or something along the way to
    show her raw live ability.. or go see her live... if only she'd come to stl. :)
            
                                                    ~Rip

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    Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 02:58:32 +0000
    From: Jennifer Adametz <Dreamline.7466@worldnet.att.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Thanks...................................!!
    Message-ID: <19961028025828.AAA10588@LOCALNAME>

        I usually just sit back and read all the info that flashes before my
    eyes, but I just have to give thanks where it it due. When my girlfriend
    subscribed to the online service we use, I thought, Nah, It's not worth it.
    Boy was I wrong! There's so much info on here that I could never get
    anywhere else! I'm really impressed! Because of you guys (and Gals) on the
    jam, I get my much needed daily requirements of DT info and other related
    stuff, i.e. rush, the magna carta stuff, Fates, ect.
    I have loved prog rock for years, about 2/3rds of my life, about 20 yrs, and
    I'm forever searching out new groups to listen to. Because of all of you, I
    now have the entire Magna Carta Catalogue to date. And I now have in my
    hands tickets To DT on the 6th of Dec. (Toads, New Haven) and Rush Nov 10th
    (Hartford). Life is good. I've been a fan of DT since 1990 and they totally
    blow me away! When I buy something by another group, I find myself comparing
    how well they play against DT! Not to mention how much money I spent on
    boots and the like, (17 cds in all!) I'm sorry to have rambled I just wanted
    to express my thanks and see you at the shows!
    Matt Wilson
    Dreamline.7466@worldnet.att.net
    or MWilson610@aol.com

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    Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 23:14:24 -0500
    From: Kain <kain@caribe.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: torriiii
    Message-ID: <32743320.78AC@caribe.net>

    RipZero wrote:
    > speaking of tori, i just picked up a tori boot from the Little Earthquakes
    > tour, which i also happen to be listening to :) Very very cool to hear in
    > concert, just her and a piano and all that... simply amazing really. If you
    > like tori's studio stuff gotta pick up a boot or something along the way to
    > show her raw live ability.. or go see her live... if only she'd come to stl. :)
    >
    > ~Rip
    Man you're absolutely right. I've seen her in eMpTyV and she is
    wonderful.
    Her voice and her piano alone, very impressive, that's why I got to get
    ahold of LE!!!!! Oh she used some sort of organ in that presentation,
    I'm
    not sure about what it was (i saw it a while back) but it was cool.
    Enuff....

    Kain

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    Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 23:19:09 -0500
    From: Kain <kain@caribe.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: New Iced Earth/Steinway to Heaven, ISTR. III
    Message-ID: <3274343D.6F75@caribe.net>

    Zack Gemmill wrote:
    > Zach
    >
    > "I hate white people"
    Hahahahahahaha! You know, while most people complain about racial jokes
    and everything, I enjoy them. I just gotta laugh. Most of them are just
    made up but i don't care either. (yes i'll fry in hell). You guys
    wouldn't believe the amount of racial and ethnic jokes I've heard. The
    ones about puertoricans and dominicans are the best I gotta tell you.

    Hey I heard a while back about someone having a tape or something from
    the day when MP sang the end of Surrounded. (correct if i'm wrong) I'd
    like to get my hands on it. So mail me any info, if you know any...

    Kain

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    Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:14:40 +0000
    From: "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: QR vs. DT
    Message-ID: <199610280323.UAA28593@cyberhighway.net>

    > From: ytsejam@ax.com
    > To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>

    > Obviously, you haven't heard of time traveling devices, chap.
    > Queensryche was stumped for lyrics in 1990, zipped to 1992, stole the
    > album title, came back in time to 1990, added them to their song, and
    > destroyed the evidence so well only a genius detective like
    > GuyFurlong@aol.com would be able to figure out their heinous scam. Duh!

    Bah! What a heinous excuse to cover up your lame-ass stupidity.
    Images & words was derived from those lyrics and persay QR flashed
    forward in time to fetch those lyrics, they would not have existed.
    Dream Theater as we know it would have been perplexed as to what to
    call their next album and would not have the lyrics Queensryche
    futuristically superceded from their unwritten album. All time would
    have come to a complete and hideous stop and both bands would be
    completely eradicated. Then this would be the Nirvana newsletter and
    Kurt Cobain would be writing Metropolis Part III, The Suicide and the
    Heroine SpeedBall chaser. :-P

    Kurt would have lived forever, but now he's worm-food. Thanks to the
    lack of time-travelling devices and well-written lyrics.

    Chuck Reis a.k.a. "The Other Ibanez"
         ibanez@cyberhighway.net

    "I feel kinda spooky..."
                  -- The Silent Man

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    Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:27:37 -0700 (MST)
    From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: OK, THIS time it better get posted
    Message-ID: <199610280327.UAA21629@goodguy.goodnet.com>

            This mail keeps failing to post... muy annoying-ado.

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    Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 23:48:01 -0400 (AST)
    From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Wake Up! boot
    Message-ID: <199610280348.XAA10015@mail.caribe.net>

    At 07:26 AM 10/27/96 -0800, you wrote:
    > Hi , I just got the Wake Up boot CD from the Japanese pay-per-view
    >and noticed that in many songs James goes off key and his voice seems kind
    >of harsh. From other live recordings I have heard , I know he doesn't
    >usually sing that way , so I was wondering if anybody knew why that
    >particular night he sang so way off? Anyways it just mere curiosity.
    >
    Yes. i noticed that to..especially during Another Day and Metropolis.. i
    think it was maybe a late show in the tour..and the voice gets tired..also
    the choice of set list might have to do with it ..like..they did AD,right
    after The Mirror/Lie i think..and like after doing all those raging
    screaming rough tones.. i think (im not a singer) that it would be
    difficult to settle your voice down that fast..

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    Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 21:39:23 +0000
    From: "Brian M. Polka" <Brian.M.Polka@xnet.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Jason Becker Show Tickets... (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <199610280336.VAA05473@mail.xnet.com>

    Hey all,

         As I'm sure you all remember, we are putting on a Guitar Benefit
    show for Jason Becker and the Les Turner ALS Foundation. I just
    wanted to let you all know that tickets are now on sale through
    Ticketmaster and the price is $35 a piece. That's a hell of a price
    to pay to see all these incredible guitarists together. Rather than
    bothering the entire 'jam with the post again, if you have any
    questions or want to know more about this show, e-mail me personally
    and I will help you our however I can. Hope to see you at the
    show!!!!

    Brian
    (rycher@xnet.com)

    "The key to immortality is first living a life
    that is worth remembering"

                       Bruce Lee

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    Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 21:56:18 +0000
    From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: 24-7 Spyz/trade delays
    Message-ID: <199610280404.WAA07584@Walden.MO.NET>

    About Doug Pinnick singing for Spyz, I think he was/is supposed to
    sing a tune or two on eht upcoming (?) album or something like that.
    I think I remember reading something along those lines on the KX list
    a while back. Oh, and Rip (and any other interested St. Louis
    jammers), just this past summer (maybe about a
    month or so ago), Spyz played the Side Door dowtown (just a few
    blocks from union Station). I saw Fleming & John there like a week
    before they were supposed to play. They had fliers up for it and
    stuff. I've never really evben heard their stuff all that much.

    Oh, and about how some trades can get delayed for various reasons,
    yeah, I totally agree with the post in a recent jam. My tapes for
    the prog tape swap have been delayed due to one tape being eaten,
    some changes that were made on another, and waiting for a better
    source for a certain song. To everyone who i owe tapes too, hold on,
    they're coming sometime soon. I do remember a trade I made over a
    year ago with someone on the U2 list. he had taken a long time
    getting them to me, and not only did I find the two tapes he owed me
    (some OLD demo stuff and live/outtakes), but I also found two
    complete tapes with the Achtung Baby outtakes on them. That made an
    impression on me (my first trade). I also got some DT tapes in the
    mail about a day or so after that, so I was set. I can only speak
    for myself, I don't make promises I don't intend on keeping. Sorry
    for the lack of DT content and the rambling, but it's been a LONG
    day. Cheers.

    Dale R. Newberry

    "The clientele here isn't exactly the picture of moral rectitude."
    -from millenium (10/25/96)
     
     

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    Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 00:49:56 -0500
    From: robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Me on crack?
    Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.10.28.0.49.56.2510543059.286057@bbs.icdc.com>

    >> (3) I'm still pissed at my luck. Who'd of thought Dream Theater'd sell
    >> out the CoreStates Center in less than 15 minutes?!

    >WHAT?

    >The Center is 21,000 seats, there poncho. Maybe Rush sold out (which i
    >think they have), but to say DT sold out the center...ARE YOU ON CRACK?

    I wish!

    The header would've explained it all, but somehow, it was cut off.
    Stupid header gone - make no sense me... No, really - it *would've*
    been funny! Honest!

    Hey, I heard a song off the new Yes album today. Should be sweet!

    Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap

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    Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 01:51:55 PST
    From: fish69@juno.com (James D Carey)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Even trade anyone..
    Message-ID: <19961028.015636.16367.2.fish69@juno.com>

                    Hello fellow jammers.. well, just a quick note.. Would
    anyone be interested in possible trading straight up a copy of DT live
    in Japan (the Japanese PPV one which if my understanding is correct.. is
    basically the Mind Control boot on video) for a copy of RUSH live in Binghamton during the "Roll The Bones" tour.. Not a bad boot.. pretty decent
    quality. Was shot from the middle of the floor and pretty descent
    sound. Only two drawbacks though.. one, It was shot with a camcorder so
    it wasn't "professionally" done, and two; During the song "Spirit Of
    Radio" security came around and the person who filmed it had to put down
    the recorder.. So during editing he put in a still shot of the guys..but
    you still get to hear the song. So.. if anyone is interested drop me a
    line.

                                            ArchAngel
                                            fish69@juno.com

                    "As a child, I thought I could l
                     live without pain without
                     sorrow"
                            -Metropolis-

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    Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:45:14 -0500 (EST)
    From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1973
    Message-ID: <v01510107ae9a315f5260@[137.238.26.12]>

    > Here is my new weekly posting about how to get the most
    >(or least if you don't like us) out of the ytsejam.

    Ryan,

    I think that you should publish a book titled something similar to that and
    make it mandatory that every 'jammer purchase it before subscribing
    (laugh)...

    -BABS

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    Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:54:47 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Nick Guadagnoli <nguadagn@acme.csusb.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: favorites
    Message-ID: <199610281554.IAA19574@acme.csusb.edu>

    Allright... I have to know... Everyone on the jam sound off on this one:
    What is your favorite Dream Theater Song?? the only limit on this is that
    for purposes of an effective survey, you may only pick songs of which
    there are versions on WDADU, I&W, Awake, or ACOS...

    Thanks and respond only to my personal email (so I don't get flamed.)
    nguadagn@acme.csusb.edu
    Please put DreamTheater in the subject field.

    later--
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    Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:50:34 -0600 (CST)
    From: Jeff Stewart <stewaj01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu>
    To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Fellow Jammers.
    Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.961028104755.28592A-100000@condor.stcloud.msus.edu>

    Hi there,
            If any of you are going to the Oct. 29 Rush concert or the Nov. 2
    G3 concert in Minneapolis, please email me. I will be at both of these
    shows and would like to meet some fellow jammers. Thanks and sorry for
    the non-DT content.

    _____________________________________________________________________________
    Jeff Stewart (AKA Remo) |"For the first time in a long time
    remo@dreamt.org | Everything was right in my world
    stewaj01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu | And then I woke up..."
    stewaj01@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu | --Dream Theater
    http://condor.stcloud.msus.edu/~stewaj01|
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    Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:47:30 -0500 (EST)
    From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
    To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Tori VH1 Crossroads
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961028114509.13404A-100000@bdmserver>

    merlo wrote:
    >In other news, I recently picked up a CD called "VH-1 Crossroads."
    >Pretty cool stuff, from the likes of Blues Traveler, k.d. lang, Del
    >Amitri, etc. But the big deal is that there's a recording of Tori
    >playing Springsteen's "I'm On Fire", and a Quicktime Movie too! It's
    >pretty cool. I'm no huge Tori fan, but I liked it. Get this disc if you
    >like Tori. Also, a lot of the tracks on here are unreleased live stuff
    >that sounds pretty cool.

    Was this a boot cd? I taped this show when it was on VH1 awhile back. She
    does like 4 songs on it. Like 3 covers including I'm on Fire and over the
    rainbow. Pretty good...

    I dont have 2 VCRs at the moment so no trades possible. Hopefully I will
    have 2 soon...

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    | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
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    | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
    | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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    | Hail to the Redskins 7-1 ** Congrats to the 1996 MLS Champs-DC UNITED |
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    Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:37:24 -0500 (EST)
    From: Josh Sager <jsager@cygnus.rsabbs.com>
    To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Tour Dates!!!
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.961028133538.7216B-100000@cygnus.rsabbs.com>

    I just got off the phone with management, and here are the dates that the
    tickets go on sale:

    Show On Sale
    ---- -------
    Dec 4th Nov 2nd
    Dec 5th Nov 1st
    Dec 6th Nov 18th
    Dec 13th Dec 2nd
    Dec 14th Nov 30th

    For the locations of the shows, go to:
    http://www.rsabbs.com/dt/whatsnew.html

    That's it for now. Later.

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    Creative Director 8001 B Lincoln Drive West (609) 988-8587 voice
    jsager@rsabbs.com Marlton, NJ 08053 (609) 983-9197 fax

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