YTSEJAM Digest 1977
Today's Topics:
1) Re: moreeeee tage
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
2) Re: Non DT Question
by Kain <kain@caribe.net>
3) Queensryche LA show boot (NDTC)
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
4) Need DT Ticket Info
by Pete Davis <75463.2253@CompuServe.COM>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1975
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
6) Email question
by John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com>
7) Accoustic guitarists
by "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
8) EoJ!!!!
by "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
9) Matthew Schnoor (M-Bone)
by "'THE HAND...' R. Ananda" <spod@u.washington.edu>
10) Re: Queensryche LA show boot (NDTC)
by "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
11) Re: Queensryche LA show boot (NDTC)
by "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
12) KevMo "CD",
by "Susan Ostroske" <spatz13@msn.com>
13) Re: KevMo "CD",
by Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
14) Prophecy fulfilled (sort of)
by Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
15) Re: Portnoy's Denver klinik
by Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
16) DT at the Strand
by al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso)
17) Superior/Angra/Selling Out
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
18) Tickets
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
19) Angra mailinglist
by Arsi Koutaniemi <arsi@bitfield.fi>
20) Angra and Judas Priest Tributes
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
21) So where does he hide it?
by psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:07:42 -0600 (CST)
From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: moreeeee tage
Message-ID: <199610290207.UAA20038@tundra.winternet.com>
>
> ok, since i've recently been bogarting savatage cds and filling up the
> collection, i only have three more to go (fight for the rock, dungeons are
> calling, and sirens) i know that both dungeons are sirens were re-released
> in 94 i think with two more tracks on each disc. can anyone help me out on
> which tracks are the new ones and how to tell if its the re-release or not?
> i assume i could check the date on the back, but just to make sure. also,
> which one should i snag first? :) =20
If you find it on CD it is 99.999% chance thaat it is the release. It will
Say Lost Savatage Tracks on it...
Best Buy should have them all for $10.
Order to pick them up in. (Same order they were released in, but I guess it
really doesn't matter).
1.) Sirens
2.) DAC
3.) FFTR
later,
savaweb@winternet.com
http://www.winternet.com/~savaweb/
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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:17:30 -0500
From: Kain <kain@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Non DT Question
Message-ID: <3275774A.4C63@caribe.net>
Art Hayes wrote:
>
> Could someone tell me how to insert an address into my posts so it > becomes a link?
>
> Thanx!! Art..........
Well, if it's a WWW link or Ftp or telnet. Just type the WHOLE address.
Like http://www.dreamt.org or ftp://oak.oakland.edu and the like.
If it's an email address you have to add mailto: at the beggining for
Netscape to recognize it. Like this mailto:kain@caribe.net
Explorer doesn't need the mailto: just kain@caribe.net
Hope this cleared anything...
Kain
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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:47:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Queensryche LA show boot (NDTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.93.961028194041.6460A-100000@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu>
A local store has a QUEENSRYCHE boot video from the LA forum
during their last tour. It is twenty bucks and I don't know
if it is worth it. (They did play some good songs though!)
Anybody seen it?
Also, does anybody have any HELLOWEEN, SAVATAGE, or DT (from
the I&W tour) boot or pro shot videos??!!!
Also, has anybody ordered cds from Dream Disc? Its been five
weeks and I still haven't recieved anything.
Lauters,
Conrad (still impatiently waiting for
GAMMA RAY -Land of the Free
CONCEPTION- Parallel Minds
STRATOVARIUS- 4th Dimension
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Date: 28 Oct 96 22:47:29 EST
From: Pete Davis <75463.2253@CompuServe.COM>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Need DT Ticket Info
Message-ID: <961029034728_75463.2253_FHQ28-1@CompuServe.COM>
I saw the on sale dates for all of the shows. Is Ticketmaster handling the
events? I've already booked my flight (from Houston) and I would feel better if
I knew exactly who to call to get tickets. Last year, the tickets went on sale
well in advance of the shaow date. What's the deal this year?
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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:52:31 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1975
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.961028224941.31000H-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> merlo wrote:
> >In other news, I recently picked up a CD called "VH-1 Crossroads."
> >Pretty cool stuff, from the likes of Blues Traveler, k.d. lang, Del
> >Amitri, etc. But the big deal is that there's a recording of Tori
> >playing Springsteen's "I'm On Fire", and a Quicktime Movie too! It's
> >pretty cool. I'm no huge Tori fan, but I liked it. Get this disc if you
> >like Tori. Also, a lot of the tracks on here are unreleased live stuff
> >that sounds pretty cool.
>
> Was this a boot cd? I taped this show when it was on VH1 awhile back. She
> does like 4 songs on it. Like 3 covers including I'm on Fire and over the
> rainbow. Pretty good...
It's an official release and should be available in any major chain.
Richie
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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:06:59 -0600 (CST)
From: John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Email question
Message-ID: <199610290406.WAA01321@psa.pencom.com>
Someone posted a question about how to get an address to show up as a link on
your mail.... Not sure of what you mean. Drop me a line with more details.
Are you looking for someway to highlight links or are you interested in putting
in a .sig file with your address (or URL)...
Geek of the week,
Johnny Motown
______________
John Mastin, Jr. johnny@pencom.com
Pencom Systems Administration
"The best way to live life is to REALIZE that you're living it."
-Mike Bahr
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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:23:36 -0700
From: "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Accoustic guitarists
Message-ID: <m0vI5je-000TWzC@mis01.micron.net>
Can anybody recommend some cool accoustic stuff along the lines of Al
DiMeola. I always like to have some around in case I get in an acoustic
mood. What's up with Michael Hedges? What kind of stuff does he play? I
think I'll go listen to Lights
Out. I love that song.
Dark Skies!!! YES!!!!
Craig Wuthrich
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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:30:26 -0700
From: "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
To: <Ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: EoJ!!!!
Message-ID: <m0vI5qG-000TXqC@mis01.micron.net>
I finally got my first end of jam after being on the list forever. I'm so
proud. Chuck is in the process of sending me a bunch of DT boots and
stuff. I thought I'd take the opportunity to say what a swell guy he is.
So if anyone feels inclined, mail him and say "you're swell." or not.
ummmm I think I'll go eat some more yogurt.
BTW Chuck=IbnzRG570
Is it just me or do the drums on the first part of "Another Rainy Night"
sound way too happy? I can imagine the dude up there with a big smile on
his face playing the little happy highhat beat like Ringo.
Craig Wuthrich
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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:30:04 -0800 (PST)
From: "'THE HAND...' R. Ananda" <spod@u.washington.edu>
To: Fucknuts <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Matthew Schnoor (M-Bone)
Message-ID: <Pine.PTX.3.95c.961028192845.20308A-100000@carson.u.washington.edu>
Sorry about this but:
Would M-Bone please e-mail me? Pretty please?
/me has a proposition.....
Rahul Ananda : spod@u.washington.edu or thehand@dreamt.org
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The universe divided as the Heart and Mind collided : At
paranoia's poison door : The pen won't stay the Demon's wings :
The Weaver and the Web that he made : The youngest of the
family is moving with authority : Willing to risk salvation
to escape from isolation : You've drowned in your soul's
emptiness : Bus stop rat bag haha charade you are : Knights
of the Green Shield stamp and shout : Searching for the
answers but there's D A M A G E
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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:34:54 +0000
From: "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Queensryche LA show boot (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199610290542.WAA03659@cyberhighway.net>
> A local store has a QUEENSRYCHE boot video from the LA forum
> during their last tour. It is twenty bucks and I don't know
> if it is worth it. (They did play some good songs though!)
> Anybody seen it?
If it's Saints and Sinners (2 CDs) get it! The sound quality on that
one is pretty good, but lacks in some areas. It has the whole
concert and rokz nadz! Cost me $40. If it's Operation: Promised
Land, be wary. They packed too much onto the CD somehow or another
and screwed it up. I bought this first and most CDs won't play it.
The first track was screwed up. It also has a skip in Silent
Lucidity and in Someone Else? Pissed me off. Those were the songs I
mostly wanted the live boot for... They're both from the same
concert so I believe the sound quality is the same. The 2CD set is
best, though.
Hope this helps!
Chuck Reis a.k.a. "The Other Ibanez"
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
"I feel kinda spooky..."
-- The Silent Man
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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:55:55 +0000
From: "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Queensryche LA show boot (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199610290603.XAA06699@cyberhighway.net>
> > A local store has a QUEENSRYCHE boot video from the LA forum
> > during their last tour. It is twenty bucks and I don't know
Upes!
I read too fast, I thought you said CD, not video. Sorry..
Chuck Reis a.k.a. "The Other Ibanez"
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
"I feel kinda spooky..."
-- The Silent Man
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 07:49:07 UT
From: "Susan Ostroske" <spatz13@msn.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: KevMo "CD",
Message-ID: <UPMAIL08.199610290752180486@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:10:46 -0600 (CST)
From: Ann M Sutton <asutton2@Bayou.UH.EDU>
>I heard Kevin Moore went solo from DT. I assume this means he'll be
>putting out a CD sometime? Does anyone know when this will be released?
Cruise to www.chromakey.com.
Suz
http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/3781
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 03:50:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: KevMo "CD",
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95L.961029034629.22483A-100000@unix21.andrew.cmu.edu>
On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Susan Ostroske wrote:
> Cruise to www.chromakey.com.
Been there a few times in the past couple days. Every time
I get the message "document contains no data."
I'm hoping this is cuz Kevin's updating the page
for the new album, and thus the new album will be
available very shortly.
anyone have any new info? cuz I'm just speculating...
and on the subject of Kevins,
I highly recommend Kevin Gilbert (the other
Kevin, I like to call him). His Thud CD is awesome. Definitely
something I think the Tori Amos or Kevin Moore (solo)
fan would love.
-max
Anton Max
MadMax+@cmu.edu
http://thunderdome.pc.cs.cmu.edu/aepithex.html
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:11:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Prophecy fulfilled (sort of)
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.961029020602.15325A-100000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
I was reading some old Jams, and I caught this post and couldn't believe
it. Hey, Mark, just what is YOUR connection to the band?:)
Keep in mind, this is from at least 2 days before word went out on the Web
about these shows.
Younis Hilal-------------------------------yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu
>
> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:17:08 -0400
> From: Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
> Subject: Home for the Holidays Part Du ??
>
> Well, not to get greedy BUT in looking at the calendar I realized that the
> holidays are just around the bend. Hmmmmm.......
>
> Was curious if someone who is connected with the band might be able to
> convince them that it would be in their best interest to test run some of
> their new songs in anticipation of the release of the new CD. You know,
> kind of like how those cool grunge bands play small intimate shows out thar
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:48:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Portnoy's Denver klinik
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.961029021214.15325B-100000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:26:41 GMT
> From: tbaddley@airmail.net (Tom Baddley)
>
> I know that most of you have already read the rundown on the Portnoy
> drum clinics...but here's a brief synopsis of what transpired:
I've probably read through about 15 or 20 of these clinic summaries
already, and I always want more. I've never had a chance to go to one of
these things, so reading these summaries is as close as I can get to 'em.
And I READ (not skim) every goddam one of 'em.
> past 2 hours. Mike is doing everyone; drummers and non-drummers alike
> a great service with these clinics. I can't think of a better way
> that a musician could spend his time away from their band. This
> clinic was truely awe inspiring. Imagine all of the musicians who are
> and will be influenced by Mike simply because he took the time to
> share tips and techniques with everyone.
You got that right, man. I hope he's getting a shit-load of positive
feedback about them, too. He mentioned in an interview once that he
wasn't sure if he was cut out to do clinics. I guess he's changed his
mind:).
> BTW...I was the only person with a ytsejam shirt on....were none of
> you there last night? Or did you just not want to be "that guy"! :)
Hmmm..."BE that guy!" Sounds like a slogan for a cologne.
> Mike also mentioned Metropolis Pt. II as making Pt. I look like a trip
> to Disneyland. He also mentioned the double CD thing again, as if
I guess Mike's been to Disneyland (and yes, it really is as lame as Mike
makes it sound, or as lame as I THINK he's making it sound; you follow?).
> they still hadn't completely ruled it out. They definitely have
> enough music for it. However, he mentioned next SUMMER before the CD
> will be released! You guys better polish up your DAT's for these
> December shows...I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL SUMMER!!
Well, I guess I should have expected that. Next summer. Jesus! By then,
I'll have graduated and everything. But I have mixed feelings about that.
On the one hand, I'll have to wait longer for the album (duh!!!). But the
extra time will also give the guys a chance to re-work, re-arrange,
re-demo, re-allthatshit (what the hell do I know about recording an
album) the songs, and perhaps come out with one hell of a polished album
in the end. Also, it will give Portnoy more time to get his way with the
double-CD deal (I hope like hell that he does). And just for good
measure: hell. There.
> "Well, I do have a third arm...but I'm not using it on that section."
> Mike Portnoy in response to a fan's question.
AHA!!! I KNEW it all along! Now all he has to do is confess to having
four legs and a couple of additional heads which he also uses on his kit.
Younis Hilal-------------------------------yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:05:27 -0500 (EST)
From: al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT at the Strand
Message-ID: <199610291205.HAA08161@osfn.org>
I called the Strand, asked them for information on the DT show
scheduled for December 13th - and they said it hasn't been confirmed... Does
anyone know anything about this? (I mean, if management posts it as a date, it
should be all set)..
-- I'm witness to redemption heard you speak but never listened Can you rid me of my secrets? Deliver us from Darkness? - DT------------------------------
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 12:12:14 +0100 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de Subject: Superior/Angra/Selling Out Message-ID: <9610291112.AA00231@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi all
I saw Superior and Angra on Friday, and I thought some of you may be interested in my extremely subjective impressions.
Superior played a set of about 35 minutes, all of the songs coming from the 'Behind' album. They were somewhat handicapped by the lack of a keyboarder: it seems he broke his arm at one of the first gigs on the tour and had to drop out. However, the singer/keyboarder from Angra stepped in and helped out on a couple of the songs. The band played well, and I was especially impressed by Bernd's guitar work. A couple of the songs had new introductions, and these came over well. The guys didn't have much stage presence, but I guess this will come with time. My only major criticism was the singer - he seemed to be straining sometimes to hit the high notes (a lot like James really). I think he would be a lot better if he stuck to a lower range. From the way that some of the songs were greeted, I can only assume that I wasn't the only person in the crowd who owned the CD, which can only be good for the guys.
Angra played for about an hour. It was the first time that I had seen them live, but it certainly won't be the last. Very tight, great sound, good selection of old and new, tons of stage presence, a singer who can get away with singing all of those 'tight-trouser' notes live (I wasn't afraid that he was going to pop a couple of blood vessels), and a guitar duo who sometimes reminded me of the old Thin Lizzy and Wishbone Ash days. The highlight for me was the percussion introduction to and the performance of 'Carolina IV' (easily on a par with the live version of 'Kaiowas' by Sepultura). They finished with a cover of some song by Judas Priest (I think it was called Pain Killer, but it's on the second part of the Judas Priest tribute album if anybody is interested).
I got to chat with Bernd after the show, and he seemed pleased with the way the tour is going, excluding, of course, the setback with the keyboarder. The band aren't going to be making any money, but they are getting lots of exposure. There are tentative plans to go into the studio again sometime next summer. And possibly good news for Kraut Jammers: Superior may (note, only may) be teaming up with Vanden Plas and Angra for a gig in Kaiserslautern sometime next spring.
Now to the point of bands selling out. There has been lots of talk about various bands selling out lately (M*tallica, Type O Negative, Smashing Pumpkins, the list goes on). I'm not going to comment on whether any of these bands may or may not have sold out, or attempt to define a sell-out, but rather I have a simple question for the elder members of the Jam: do any of you remember the pressure that was on Led Zeppelin after they had released the runes album? Everybody was expecting something similar, and when the band put out "Houses Of The Holy" everbody started yelling 'what is this shit? Reggae? Sell-out", me included. But over the years, "Houses Of The Holy" has become my favourite Zep album of all, full of great music, and I now view it as anything but a sell-out, rather a much needed change in direction, without which the band would have become stale and just a parody of themselves. Anybody else agree? Anybody understand this? Anybody give a flying fuck?
More from me next time: it's nearly my lunch break so I'm off to frighten pensioners in the park (everbody needs a hobby).
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: U2 - Under A Blood Red Sky
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:32:48 -0800 From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tickets Message-ID: <327623A0.768D@dreamt.org>
The tckets for the Chance aren't on sale yet. The tickets go on sale this coming Saturday. I dunno if DT can sell the Chance out, so get them as soon as you can.
======================================================================== Andy Miller:I'm one of the Andy Millers Me: Hi. I'm DreamNDay Andy:Damn! You post every day! It's like your job! October 19, 1996, Albany NY later--------------Brian 36 DAYS TILL DT HITS UPSTATE NY!! ========================================================================
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 14:43 GMT+0200 From: Arsi Koutaniemi <arsi@bitfield.fi> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Angra mailinglist Message-ID: <m0vIDVo-00002tC@bitfield.fi>
Those who are interested.
There is Angra mailinglist that started out a few weeks ago. Marcela Sofiati is running it as well as the excellent Angra page "Reaching Horizons".
To subscribe send a mail to: woody@regra.com.br Just add your name and your email-address.
Or check Angra's homepage http://www.regra.com.br/musica/angra/
Grretas, Arsi ------------------------------------------------------------------ - I see the strangest faces - Arsi Koutaniemi - - faces that I've never seen before - - - they see through empty spaces - Arsi@bitfield.fi - - spaces that do not exist no more. - - - - King Diamond - - ------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 8:05:02 EST From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Angra and Judas Priest Tributes Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+s+URmA@tcx.tcco.com>
I just got my Angra "Angels Cry" CD and it smokes! I think it's a lot better than "Holy Land" - a lot more straight-forward with touches of shredding.
Does anyone else think that they sound an aweful lot like Helloween? I noticed that it was recorded at Kai Hansen Studios, so that would probably be responsible for it...
PS - anything in particular that stands out on the Judas Priest tribute CDs? I got them but haven't taken the Angra CD out yet.
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:49:02 -0500 From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: So where does he hide it? Message-ID: <199610291340.IAA14261@uhura.ici.net>
>"Well, I do have a third arm...but I'm not using it on that section." >Mike Portnoy in response to a fan's question.
So THAT'S how he does that stuff...... :) I was always amazed at some of the stuff the esteemed Mr. Portnoy could do on a drum kit with just the standard number of human appendages. Actually, some of it would be tough even if he *did* have an extra arm. :)
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