YTSEJAM Digest 1980
Today's Topics:
1) Yip yip!
by Ben Laussade <laussade@sprynet.com>
2) Birch Hill, DT in school, demos, synths, more!!!
by robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
3) Birch Hill tickets
by "Jill M. Lentchner" <jmlentch@mailbox.syr.edu>
4) happy anniversary! :)
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
5) re: URGENT BIRCHHILL!!
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
6) JP (DTC)
by "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
7) Voices
by "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
8) DT dates?
by gehrig4@seacoast.com (Robert Rivers)
9) Re: Voices
by Kain <kain@caribe.net>
10) Tori in Lawrence this Sunday!!
by NUPRIN <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
11) Re: Clinics
by Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
12) It came from the 80s
by "God of Thunder" <PILLSBUR@HUMnet.UCLA.EDU>
13) Re: that James Arin Colberg guy
by JamesArin@aol.com
14) RUSH TOMORROW NIGHT!!!
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
15) James Colberg
by "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
16) Fine!!
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
17) Re: DT dates?
by Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
18) KevMo
by e8825527@student.tuwien.ac.at (LoneWolf)
19) It Came From The 80's
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:26:17 -0800
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@sprynet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Yip yip!
Message-ID: <199610310126.RAA23750@m5.sprynet.com>
This is my 1000th Jam! Yip yip! :)
Ben Laussade
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:34:40 -0500
From: robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Birch Hill, DT in school, demos, synths, more!!!
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.10.30.-12.34.40.2510543059.294620@bbs.icdc.com>
Thus sayeth Mr. Bahr...
>Hey everyone. Tickets for the Birch Hill show go on sale TOMORROW
>MORNING... that's 10/30/96... WEDNESDAY
I read this thing at about 7:00 pm and practically flipped my wig.
Dialing madly, I punched in the numbers for the TicketBastard in Philly.
Five minutes of hold and four of incompetant operator ("They're playing
at the Dream Theater?") learned me this - I had to call the NJ TM. And
so I did - and learned Birch Hill tix don't go on sale 'til the 2nd of
Nov. Hopefully, this guy wasn't an ignoramous as well, and I was told
the truth...
Anywho, today in Music of the '90s (a course in which I'm getting
105%!!), we began our playing of music samples, to learn us "song
analyzation" (for those kids that don't know what a verse or a chorus is
- these kids make up 87.3% of my class). So, anyhow, mine got picked
("Take The Time"), along with two others to be played. Due to smart
thinking on the part of Teach, TTT wasn't started until about five
minutes before the period ended (this was after a "Uhhh, there's not
enough time..." comment by me). No offense to any Pantera or GNR fans,
but how can "November Rain" and "Becoming" have precedence over DT?
What a hose-job!
As always, there were some interesting comments:
"Pah! Metal?!" -- Jeff, kid who brought in Pantera sample
And an interesting conversation with Tim Lewis before the tape was
played:
TIM: What kind of music is this?
ME: Progressive metal.
TIM: Is that like industrial?
ME: Er, no. It's a lot more like progressive metal, actually.
TIM: Sounds like a spaghetti sauce.
I got a demo tape from a Texas band called Power of Omens in the mail
today. Their sound? Picture Queensryche minus one of the guitars, with
a keyboardist in 'is place. The drumming resembles Mark Zonder's, and
the vocalist is almost a dead-ringer for Geoff Tate. Mix in a bit of
Dream Theater too... Makes for an astounding combo. The tape's free,
available by E-mailing ProgRocker@aol.com.
Since I've taken up so much space already, I might as well add this lil'
query o' mine...
Hi, I'm a keyboardist looking for a synthesizer (or a sampler -
(dis)advantages?). Any suggestions? Keep in mind I ain't made of money
(pails, snails, and puppy-dog tails more like), so price would be a
factor here. Also, this would be a "primary" instrument, not just
another piece to add to a rig (were it that I *had* a rig... <sigh>).
Thanks for your time,
Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap
"He was too crazy for Boys Town, too much of a boy for Crazy Town..." --
Dr. Hibbert
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:41:38 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jill M. Lentchner" <jmlentch@mailbox.syr.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Birch Hill tickets
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961030203849.25382A-100000@forbin.syr.edu>
Hi! I know I haven't posted in ages, sorry about that. I just wanted to
let everyone know that I tried to get tickets for Birch Hill three times
today. At first I was told that they didn't go on sale until noon. I
tried after noon and was told they don't go on sale until Sat. November 2
at noon. I just tried again and got the same story about Saturday. Did
we get wrong info or has someone else had any luck? If not, try Saturday,
not before then.
Jill -------- Quazel
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:50:00 -0600
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: happy anniversary! :)
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961031015000.006f4b40@mail.inlink.com>
>
>This is my 1000th Jam! Yip yip! :)
<applesauce> woohoo. say... since i've switched to ack mode now... what jam
is it?!
hehe, do i sound like Ash in army of darkness or what? gotta love that :)
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:01:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Andrew Miller <andym@wicked.stigmata.org>
Subject: re: URGENT BIRCHHILL!!
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961030205932.17521B-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> Everybody, please, do yourself a favor and buy KEY'S TO ASCENSION, this is
> without a doubt the best YES album since DRAMA. Steve and Chris have made
> huge come backs. Between me and you I never thought I would like Chris
> over Tony Levin ever again (you know since the whole ABWH thing) but Chris
> once again plays like it's DRAMA or something. I thing a big factor of it
> is the fact that he is back to exclusive us of the Rickenbocker Bass.
Um..
you know i had to step in here.
NOTHING JON ANDERSON CAN DO WILL EQUAL THE SHEER POWER
THAT IS DRAMA. Chris might be able to, but until I get Downes/Horn back,
Drama is the greatest Yes album, and i'll say the greatest ALBUM ever
made.
LET ME REPEAT: DO NOT COMPARE A LIVE ALBUM TO MAKE MONEY WITH THE
GREATEST ALBUM OF ALL TIME.
you think i made my point clear? i think so.
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:47:25 -0700
From: "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: JP (DTC)
Message-ID: <m0vInGB-000QXBC@mis01.micron.net>
if you haven't yet, jump on over to http://www.mesaboogie.com it has a
cool interview with JP and also two 2-minute mini songs by the master
himself. They are RA so you don't even have to wait for them to download.
Does anybody have/use an EBow? Just wondering.
Latest GW cover: Marilyn Manson
It's nice to see that real music is making a comeback.
(Actually I was kidding)
Craig Wuthrich
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:54:15 -0700
From: "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
To: <Ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Voices
Message-ID: <m0vInIW-000QWhC@mis01.micron.net>
I should probably mention that it looks like Voices@arastar.com is going to
start up soon. That means that all you slappies that haven't subscribed
yet better do so quickly. There are currently 93 subscribers compared to
900 on here. come on do it!
Craig Wuthrich
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:24:27 -0500
From: gehrig4@seacoast.com (Robert Rivers)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT dates?
Message-ID: <199610310324.WAA05481@worf.worx.net>
I find it strange that DT would plan a show on the same
night as Rush. I beleive Rush is playing on Long Island the
same night as the Birch Hill show[sat Dec 14] Someone said the
DT show will start at 12:00 midnight, to allow all the Rush
attendees to also see DT. Now Rush plays for 3 hours Albany
and Buffalo both ended at 11:05 pm by time your in your car
and out of traffic its past 11:30. How is it possible to
attend both? not to mention I'm physically exausted after a
Rush show, and then endure 2 hours of being smushed[which I
normally really enjoy] I think its impossible to attend both ,
but if this was the only DT show I would of course choose DT.
But I will be attending the first 4 shows I'm very pumped to
get my FIX FOR 96 !!!!!!
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 23:16:52 -0500
From: Kain <kain@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Voices
Message-ID: <32782834.4F9E@caribe.net>
LRW wrote:
>
> I should probably mention that it looks like Voices@arastar.com is going to
> start up soon. That means that all you slappies that haven't subscribed
> yet better do so quickly. There are currently 93 subscribers compared to
> 900 on here. come on do it!
>
> Craig Wuthrich
And what's that list supposed to be about? Just wondering since we
already have the Jam....
Kain
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:19:51 -0600 (CST)
From: NUPRIN <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tori in Lawrence this Sunday!!
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.961030211801.26805A-100000@wichita.fn.net>
Just wondering if there are going to be any Jammers at Tori Amos this
Sunday up in Lawrence, KS. If so, please say hi! (the last jammer I saw at
the Dallas G3 show didn't even say hi even though I said hi to him...what
a jerk!). Anyways, I'll be wearing my Jam Tshirt!
/,
\>
/< John Nguyen (aka NUPRIN)
} /> Musician/Artist/Programmer/Lover/Parent
[\\\\(@):::>|=+=+========================================---
} \> ...and Defender Of All Worthy Women!!
\< "all I want is to have my peace of mind"
/> --BOSTON
\' http://www.feist.com/~nuprin
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:20:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Clinics
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.961030190611.28184D-100000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
On Tue, 29 Oct 1996 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 12:04:15 PST
> From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
>
> How come Mike or John never come out to Northern CA (Bay Area)?
> I mean, the home of Primus, Y&T, Metallica, and Satriani shouldn't
> be ignored!
>
Yeah, no kidding. I was wondering the same thing myself when I saw that
Mike was making several stops in the L.A./Orange county area. I guess
I'll just have to wait until AFTER the next album's released, 'cuz I
don't expect Mike to be coming out here again anytime soon.
As for John, I dunno...maybe we'll get lucky.
Younis Hilal-------------------------------yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:36:06 PST
From: "God of Thunder" <PILLSBUR@HUMnet.UCLA.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: It came from the 80s
Message-ID: <203AE9C2C30@113hum2.humnet.ucla.edu>
Regarding the MTV metal special:
I saw the MTV special this summer when it first ran. They were just
reviewing the 80s metal era, discussing its high points and its
demise. There were a lot of very interesting interview clips with
some of the big names of the time and these were very revealing.
Most of the guys seemed very mellow about the whole thing and not in
the least bit bitter about being pushed aside by Cobain et al. It
was quite refreshing to see that they had some class and could talk
about their experiences with some intelligence and charm. Lita Ford,
on the other hand, was just a bitter old bitch. There's a reason
your music wasn't popular, Lita. That's because it was dumb.
You tried to play with the boys and you lost. Get over it and get
over yourself. I was impressed by the girl from Vixen (an even more
unknown band than Lita's various incarnations) who basically said
"Hey, it was fun. It's over, I'm doing other things with my life
now." As for any "comeback" of the 80s sound, wait about 10 years.
Remember, KISS' tour is all stuff from '78 and before. Therefore
the tour is not designed to resurrect an 80s ethos. Van Halen was
also quite popular before the 80s thing, so the fact that they're
still "hip" isn't evidence of an impending 80s rehash, but rather of
Van Halen's longevity as a single band. Besides, people who
desparately want an 80s comeback are just desparate for their
childhood/adolescence. I don't think I would get into a new Poison
album the way I did back then (ok...I admit it...go ahead..flame
me...). In 10 years, I'll go to the money-making reunion concerts,
but until then, I've got way too much other music to listen to and
really get to know. Shouldn't we all????
Glenn
^Mirror
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 23:15:38 -0500
From: JamesArin@aol.com
To: ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net, ytsejam@ax.com, caber1@cris.com,
Subject: Re: that James Arin Colberg guy
Message-ID: <961030231535_134537678@emout15.mail.aol.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996
>Has anyone ever gotten their Subconscious CDs from that James Arin
>Colberg guy? It's been a month since I sent the money and I did receive an
>e-mail from him that he'd received my check. Maybe it got lost in
>the mail, maybe he lost my address, maybe he's this Al guy in
>disguise. If you are on the list James, could you please mail me and
>let me know what's going on? Hopefully if it got sent to the wrong
>address, it was someone who liked it. $25 for a new DT convert
>wouldn't be half bad. That's the only good thing that could've happened,
>I guess.
Chuck,
I mailed your disc on 10/23 please let me know when you get it. The
only reason I am answering you on the Jam is that the question was posed on
the Jam and it caused some other people to wonder about me. You did e me
privately (see below) but I recieved it after you posted to the Jam. No
problem I just wanted everyone to see that everything was cool. :^)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996
>Heya, there!
>I was jus' wondering if you'd happened to send mine out yet...
>I remember getting an e-mail from you about the time my money order
>should have arrived, but I can't remember when it was. Pre Sept.
>20th or so... :-) Smileys mean this is not a gripe letter, I am
>just concerned about it 's all. You've gotten some good responses
>and I know yer honest and all. Here's my address again, just in case
>:-)
>Chuck Reis
>Thanks, alot!
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996
>Subject: Trading{please read}
>THIS POST IS ABOUT TRADING IF YOU DON'T TRADE THEN SKIP IT. IF YOU >DO
TRADE PLEASE READ THIS. IF YOU HAVE EVER ENCOUNTERED A >"BAD" TRADER PLEASE
EMAIL ME AT caber1@pop3.cris.com
Rick Audet wrote:
>Re: James Arin and Subconscious
>I emailed him a few months ago and after a while he finally sent me a form
[snip]
>Oh yeah, almost forgot what this post was about JAMES ARIN. :) If you're
>having trouble with him email me. Don't post it on the jam. I don't think
>James even reads the jam. Also in the past talking about someone on the jam
>gets weird. One person says they didn't get their stuff, and another person
>will say wait. Neither person really knows what is happening. And the next
>thing you know there's more people saying that they didn't get their stuff
>and there's even more people saying wait. One side of the story *never*
>gets told the "bad" trader's. This happened just a last week or so with
>Marcel(the guy who is selling Capre Diem(sp?) and also with Tim Lodge(both
>Tim and Marcel are sending out their CDs so just hold on to whose of you who
>ordered from them) I will email these people on your behalf as a neutral
>party and see whats going on. I'll post back a list of people if I get
>anymore names besides the ones at the beginning of my post.
>John McCabe "I think Im getting stupid here"
>caber1@cris.com ~Mojoman(aka Penis-Hater)
Hi John,
I think the third party idea is great. You hit it right on the head go
to private e-mail first. Chuck had e-mailed me privately a while back so he
had every right to be worried. As far as reading the Jam I read every one
scanning for subjects of interest. :^) The problem is when I purchased my
new computer (IBM Aptiva C73 200Mhz Pentium Tower) I ran into a problem and
ended up with a back up of e-mail including 100 ytsejams.' The M-wave card
blew on me and I had to transfer my whole system, hardware and software,
twice. :^( Not cool!!! Everything is working now so there should be no
more delay in shipping.
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996
>From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Arin/T.C./Rising Power/NP/DSP/exam/friday
>Message-ID: <199610250551.BAA00687@beasley.cris.com>
>Re: James Arin and Subconscious
>I emailed him a few months ago and after a while he finally sent me a form
>letter detailing his supposed Subconscious project. I never got around to
>ordering.
>Recently, I emailed him again to make sure he's still doing the Subconscious
>thang. No reply. Is it possible he belongs on John McCabe's "Baaad People
>List"? Let the Jammers decide! Speak!
Hi Rick,
Again I am answering this to the Jam because it was asked here and
people need to feel safe in who they are dealing with. I do beleive I did
reply but I took a while to do so do to the above mention situation. :^( I
have filled about 90 orders combined for Subconscious and AD and as far as I
know all those people are satified because I have heard nothing to the
contrary. :^) Anyone? Anyone? Beuhler? Beuhler?
Thanks,
Jim
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:27:00 +0000
From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RUSH TOMORROW NIGHT!!!
Message-ID: <199610310436.WAA17886@Walden.MO.NET>
Hey, if anyone who i haven't talked with is going to the Rush show
tomorrow night at the Kiel Center in St. Louis, let me or Rip know.
We're planning on meeting in the front lobby before the show. I just
want to meet as many jammers as possible and stuff. I'll be wearing
a ytse-shirt and smoking a big ass cigar (well, that part will have
to be done outside - I figured it'd be a good way to celebrate the
show and the fact that I just put my two weeks notice in at one of my
jobs :). Hope to see some of you there. Cheers.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:44:26 +0000
From: "IbnzRG570" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: James Colberg
Message-ID: <199610310553.WAA19386@cyberhighway.net>
Hi, all!
I just thought I'd let you all know that James Colberg's not another
Al Balkiwartz. I just received my Subcounscious CD yesterday and all
is just terrible swell. :-) It's the first time I"ve heard it so I
can't compare sound qualities, but It's pretty damn good reproduction
of everything! Very nice. Thanks to Mike Bahr also for the original
production. (Nuthin' like bootin' a boot, eh?) Anyway, I'm planning
on ordering his Acoustic Dreams re-make as I stupidly skipped over it
the forst time.
NP: Journey, Trial by Fire. (It's about time! I predicted this 2
years ago. You didn't believe me, did you! Hah!)
Chuck Reis a.k.a. "The Other Ibanez"
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
"I feel kinda spooky..."
-- The Silent Man
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:24:52 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fine!!
Message-ID: <199610310524.WAA27326@goodguy.goodnet.com>
I was just passing along info from _DT MANAGEMENT_ that the
tickets were to go on sale today... if you all don't like getting info
from the front office, I'm sure I can just not post it when I hear it from
now on. :) (I mean geez... talk about ingratitude!!)
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - Chandler, Arizona - Go ASU!
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 01:13:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: DT dates?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95L.961031011219.24926C-100000@unix21.andrew.cmu.edu>
On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Robert Rivers wrote:
> I find it strange that DT would plan a show on the same
> night as Rush. I beleive Rush is playing on Long Island the
> same night as the Birch Hill show[sat Dec 14] Someone said the
> DT show will start at 12:00 midnight, to allow all the Rush
> attendees to also see DT. Now Rush plays for 3 hours Albany
> and Buffalo both ended at 11:05 pm by time your in your car
> and out of traffic its past 11:30. How is it possible to
> attend both? not to mention I'm physically exausted after a
> Rush show, and then endure 2 hours of being smushed[which I
> normally really enjoy] I think its impossible to attend both ,
> but if this was the only DT show I would of course choose DT.
> But I will be attending the first 4 shows I'm very pumped to
> get my FIX FOR 96 !!!!!!
Actually, I would expect DT to be in attendance at the rush show, so
you'll probably have as much time to get to birch hill as they will :)
-max
Anton Max
MadMax+@cmu.edu
http://thunderdome.pc.cs.cmu.edu/aepithex.html
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:25:04 +0100
From: e8825527@student.tuwien.ac.at (LoneWolf)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: KevMo
Message-ID: <9610310825.AA07024@stud1.tuwien.ac.at>
Hi jammers !
I just noticed that Kevin's page is working again, but
there isn't really an update or something. :(
I'm still waiting for an e-mail by Kev, but I'm afraid
I won't get one. So all we can do is wait ...
Take care,
Wolf.
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:22:26 -0500 (EST)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: It Came From The 80's
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961031091757.14801D-100000@bdmserver>
Walter wrote:
>I was watching a special on MTV and I caught the last 5 minutes of it.
>They were showing videos of the 80's and showed Cinderella, Twisted Sister,
>and Lita Ford/Ozzy Osbourne. I caught the part where Lita Ford was saying
>'a lot of people don't like rap or alternative, and they just want to hear
>some good ol rock-n-roll.' With Kiss making a comeback and Van Halen
>staying hip (thanks to MTV), could this mean metal will come back. I don't
>know but it all depends on what MTV does, IMO.
>
>Anyone seen the whole show and can tell me what other bands or people they
>interviewed?
Hey,
I saw the last 5 minutes as well. I was tuning in to watch Beavis and
Butthead.
On 2 Saturdays in the last couple of months MTV aired their It Came From
the 80's special where they talk to the 80's hard rock bands and play
videos from those bands. I missed the first airing but managed to tape
the second airing. I haven't watched it yet but i will sometime...
The fact that eMpTyV aired this special twice gives me hope...
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