YTSEJAM Digest 1981
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1980
by David Alderman <alde0004@gold.tc.umn.edu>
2) # for TicketShafter?
by Greg Slang <slanggm@jmu.edu>
3) Spaghetti Sauce & The 80's
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
4) Re: Accoustic guitarrists
by smilodon@data.net.mx (Raul Rodriguez)
5) journey
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
6) downward spiral
by mike olekshy <mmo@direct.ca>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1980
by Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1980
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
9) Re: downward spiral
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
10) I found some interesting URLs
by "Roland (Shred) Rupp" <al765518@academ01.mty.itesm.mx>
11) Prog on the radio
by RANDALL W AQUINO <asrwa2@UAA.ALASKA.EDU>
12) midterm blues?
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
13) re: URGENT BIRCHHILL!!
by Andrew Miller <andym@wicked.stigmata.org>
14) Sorry to post this but.........
by skooc@earthlink.net
15)
by elliott@fxn.com (Elliott Kim)
16) Arkansas Jammers
by "Todd O. Klindt" <pendragn@netins.net>
17) EXTRA!!!EXTRA!!!
by Sebastien Ferland <sebsammy@colba.net>
18) re: TTT in class
by "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
19) WOW!!!! MessaBoggie JP samples!!
by "Trey Allen" <tallen@cybermax.net>
20) Fw: VOICES digest 1
by "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:16:28 -0600
From: David Alderman <alde0004@gold.tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1980
Message-ID: <3278C2CC.3BE0@gold.tc.umn.edu>
robert.henderson@ICDC.COM wrote:
I got a demo tape from a Texas band called Power of Omens in the mail
today. Their sound? Picture Queensryche minus one of the guitars, with
a keyboardist in 'is place. The drumming resembles Mark Zonder's, and
the vocalist is almost a dead-ringer for Geoff Tate. Mix in a bit of
Dream Theater too... Makes for an astounding combo. The tape's free,
available by E-mailing ProgRocker@aol.com.
I received a copy of this as well and the description he gives is right
on. It is well worth getting and you can't beat the price...
I also got a free sampler demo from the band Eternity. This has
samples of songs from their 4 releases and is worth a listen as well. I
believe they have a website but I don't know the address offhand. It
could probably be found via a search engine. If not e-mail me and I
will see if it is on the tape anywhere.
David
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:33:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Greg Slang <slanggm@jmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: # for TicketShafter?
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.93.961031103048.20546A-100000@falcon.jmu.edu>
Jammers,
I'm in Virginia right now, but will be in NJ on the 14th fortunately. Does
anyone have the number to TicketShafter or whoever will be selling the
Birch Hill tickets? Would I be able to call a DC Ticketmaster outlet to
order? I don't think I can, so a number would be greatly appreciated
before the 2nd. Thanks!
=FA.=F9=F8 Gregory Slang =F8=F9.=FA
James Madison University
=F8=F9.=FA slanggm@jmu.edu =FA.=F9=F8
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:12:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Spaghetti Sauce & The 80's
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.961031075357.13542B-100000@homer29.u.washington.edu>
> From: robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
> Subject: Birch Hill, DT in school, demos, synths, more!!!
>
> No offense to any Pantera or GNR fans, but how can "November Rain" and
> "Becoming" have precedence over DT? What a hose-job!
Simple. "November Rain" was made into a really neato video that had lots
of close-ups and drama and Stephanie Seymour. So far DT's videos have only
featured two of those elements. "Becoming" has the coolest kickdrum riff
since VH's "Hot For Teacher." Portnoy has yet to dig a ditch into the
world of music with an original solo-kick riff...
> And an interesting conversation with Tim Lewis before the tape was
> played:
>
> TIM: What kind of music is this?
> ME: Progressive metal.
> TIM: Is that like industrial?
> ME: Er, no. It's a lot more like progressive metal, actually.
> TIM: Sounds like a spaghetti sauce.
Heh... "Yeah, progressive metal is like spaghetti sauce, 'cause whatever
style of music you like, IT'S IN THERE!! BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!"
As for "It Came From The 80's," (which, coincidentally, could be the title
for a post referring to something from the last 'jam) I saw this when it
was broadcast in July or August of this past summer. What a gem. It had
Def Leppard explaining why metal died. The conclusion they arrived at was
that "all these bands came along and imitated our sound." Then Lita Ford
closed things (actually she gave spiteful commentary throughout the entire
show) with "what the FUCK happened to my rock and roll?" There were lots
of other soundbites from other musicians and videos here and there, and
several choice videos got airtime for the first time in years. It was
loads of fun to watch, even though my hair has never reached a distance
longer than three inches from my scalp.
I guess this post will occur in YJ #1981. '81 was a good year. I was six
years old. In September of that year I stepped out of candyland and
into... Grade School. Everyone wore Big Z sneakers. Or Pumas. Or, if you
could jump really high and wanted to pretend you had a pouch, Kangaroos.
Those were the days...
Bafu Vai
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:50:57 -0600
From: smilodon@data.net.mx (Raul Rodriguez)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Accoustic guitarrists
Message-ID: <199610311650.KAA04344@nic.data.net.mx>
>>Can anybody recommend some cool accoustic stuff along the lines of Al
>>DiMeola. I always like to have some around in case I get in an acoustic
>>mood. What's up with Michael Hedges? What kind of stuff does he play?
> I'll just step up and say I'm one of the heaviest guitar album
>buyers on the jam... maybe by a long shot. There are few that I have heard
>of that I don't own. This is not to brag... this is just to say that I can
>tell you a lot about some better acoustic players. First, if you haven't
>gotten Live in San Fran by DiMeola, McLaughlin, and DeLucia, buy it.
The new Cd Of AL DINEOLA, JOHN MCLAUGHLIN AND PACO DE LUCIA, is also
great buy it now. They will come to Mexico city in november 29, I can not
wait for it. The new CD is an studio CD. If you like accoustic guitar
anithing of Paco is great.
See you
Omar Rodriguez
"I may never get over
but never better then now" 6:00
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:11:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: journey
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961031114257.18004A-100000@bdmserver>
What do Jammers think of Journey? How about the new Journey?
I know they are not prog but they are great musicians and Steve Perry has
a great set of lungs. I think that if he wanted to he would fit in fine
with a prog metal band.
I like the new Journey a lot especially since unlike a lot of bands they
did not go grunge...
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:02:21 -0800
From: mike olekshy <mmo@direct.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: downward spiral
Message-ID: <96Oct31.100227-0800pdt.270472-4924+754@aphex.direct.ca>
You know, there used to be a time when I'd look forward
to Bafu and Mike Bahr posts. They were the saving
grace of the jam. But now it appears that those days are
gone. As evidenced by Mike's latest post, a defensive and
unclassy one at that, the jam just isn't what it used to be.
I'm now averaging 1 quality piece of info per 5 jams.
Sometimes I wonder why I haven't unsubscribed....
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:04:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1980
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.961031140340.7836B-100000@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
YO!!
When does the Birch Hill show start?? How long will it be?? What tunes
are DT gonna play?? How far is Birch Hill from Philly?? Is there any
other jammers going from Philly?? Thanks!! Later
Dan
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:27:51 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1980
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.961031141045.39550A-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
On Thu, 31 Oct 1996 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
Besides, people who
> desparately want an 80s comeback are just desparate for their
> childhood/adolescence. I don't think I would get into a new Poison
> album the way I did back then (ok...I admit it...go ahead..flame
> me...).
+++This isn't a flame. Anyone who knows me (D-Man) will attest to
the fact that I'm probably one of the biggest Poison fans you'll ever
meet. In fact, I'm wearing my Poison baseball cap right now as I type
this and probably will be wearing it when you all read this. Some people
wanting an 80s comeback are really desperate for their childhood. Those
people are pathetic. However, most people into that style of music,
myself obviously included, aren't longing for it for memory's sake. We
wish it would come back because, plain and simple, it was, is, and will
continue to be great music. Not necessarily the most complicated, or even
the most original, but great. I don't want to start a whole "what defines
great music" argument because that is just an excerise in futility. And
as for your comment concerning your doubt that you could get into a new
Poison album like you used to, maybe that's true. Some people's musical
tastes have moved on. That's fine. It's okay to change. But let me just
say this: I managed to get a hold of a copy of Poison's unreleased album
"Crack A Smile" (with Blues Saraceno on guitar) and it is, hands down,
one of the best hard rock albums I've ever heard. Warrant's new album
"Belly To Belly Vol 1" rocks too. As long as bands put out quality product,
they will have my money, regardless of which decade they're "from." Good
music is good music. Period.
Richie
P.S. Ironically, I, one of the biggest fans of the genre I know, missed
the It Came From The 80s special. I'm thinking about getting cable just
on the off chance that MTV will continue to air it.
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 96 15:11:45 EST
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: downward spiral
Message-ID: <9610312011.AA21182@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
OK. Let me see if I have got this right. Yes, it's Damon, the blind guy, with
a post for the first time in ... too long, apparently. Now, I know I usually
don't have any worthy commentary to contribute to the Jam, but I want to pose
a hypothesis for scientific study. Has anybody noticed that when any
stressful event comes our way, the quality of the Jam deteriorates. Midterms?
Finals? Watch the quality of the Jam dissipate. We are in the midterm phase
right now, aren't we? Let's see if after midterms, the jam picks up and
everybody becomes happy again.
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:20:34 -0600 (CST)
From: "Roland (Shred) Rupp" <al765518@academ01.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I found some interesting URLs
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.961031141915.50605B-100000@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>
I was surfing when I fount the Mike Kneally's homepage at:
http://www.moosenet.com
and Dweezil Zappa's at http://www.musicforpets.com
go there!
Visit The Great Extreme Page (With news, sound clips and the mailing list) at:
http://mars.superlink.net/user/jkramer/extreme.html
and a friends Page at:
http://homepages.mty.itesm.mx/~al766074/
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:53:44 -0900
From: RANDALL W AQUINO <asrwa2@UAA.ALASKA.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Prog on the radio
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.961031114925.539176313D-100000@UAA.ALASKA.EDU>
As I was listening to the radio this mourning as I do everyday, I heard
the intro to King's X's "Sometimes" playing. I though this is great, 20
million people are hearing this. Now you are thinking what kind of show
has an audience that big? Well Rush Limbaugh of course, he uses songs an
an interlude after a commercial break. I've had thoughts of calling him
and telling him to use some DT cause DT is perfect for his show. DT is
thinking mans music and complex.
Randy
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:48:29 -0600
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: midterm blues?
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961031214829.006dcbdc@mail.inlink.com>
hehe...... well, i'm definately in a good mood this eve... RUSH IN JUST A
MATTER OF HOURS!!!!!!! Trick or Treat!!!!!!!!! BWAHAHAHA.
i've got the cd player loaded and ready.. ever notice how a good band, no
matter WHAT type of music you were listening to before, can tone you in and
get you to feel it regardless of your hence state of mind? Ra :) hats off
to savatage. :)
~Rip
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 17:44:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Miller <andym@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
Subject: re: URGENT BIRCHHILL!!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.961031173819.9302B-100000@wicked.stigmata.org>
No I didn't know that you had to step in here. First of all I didn't say
that it was BETTER than DRAMA, I just said it was there best since DRAMA.
Second of all I think you are in a vast majority of people who think DRAMA
is the greastest work ever put out but YES. And third of all this reuion
was not put together to make money, this was planned 20 years ago. Yes
make a document up and all signed it that said where ever they where 20
years from then (1996) they would get together and bring YES into the 21st
century, no bull shit. So they are working out a five record deal with
Atlantic that will bring this all to froution, and before that happens
there will be one more SLO album, . And this is that last time I defend
YES because they really don't need it, and because they are without a
doubt some of the most inspiring musicans (don't ask me ask everyone else)
in the world. And as alway NO FLAMES.
later...andy
Andrew Miller Real people get mail from my other account,
andym@dreamt.org only there will you see the true signatures
--or-- of Andy Miller. Thanks go out to Ryan, for
ytsejam@Udel.Edu without him this .sig would not be possible.
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:55:16 -0800 (PST)
From: skooc@earthlink.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Sorry to post this but.........
Message-ID: <199610312255.OAA22296@germany.it.earthlink.net>
Could Marcel Berkhout PLEASE email me?
Scott Cook
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 18:13:37 -0500
From: elliott@fxn.com (Elliott Kim)
To: The Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Message-ID: <19961031231335014.AAA130@mail.fxn.com>
>From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
>Subject: Fine!!
>
> I was just passing along info from _DT MANAGEMENT_ that the
>tickets were to go on sale today... if you all don't like getting info
>from the front office, I'm sure I can just not post it when I hear it from
>now on. :) (I mean geez... talk about ingratitude!!)
>
That was info he believed to be reliable and worthy of posting, so what
exactly did he do wrong? Yikes. So it was an honest mistake... We all
make our share of them. Mike's track record is proven, and one mistake
shouldn't incur the wrath of the Jam.
-- Elliott Kim --------------------------------------------------------
--e l l i o t t @ f x n . c o m ----- E - M a n @ d r e a m t . o r g--
--h t t p : / / w w w . f x n . c o m / u s e r s / e / e l l i o t t--
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 17:24:14 -0600
From: "Todd O. Klindt" <pendragn@netins.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Arkansas Jammers
Message-ID: <3279351E.36CC@netins.net>
Hi All,
I'm gonna be in Little Rock next week and I thought it would be cool
to hook up with some Jammers in the area. If you are from around Little
Rock, drop me a line at mailto:pendragn@netins.net .
thanks
todd
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 18:29:45 -0500
From: Sebastien Ferland <sebsammy@colba.net>
To: "'Ytsejam Mailing List'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: EXTRA!!!EXTRA!!!
Message-ID: <01BBC759.A8A011E0@pm3-s5.colba.net>
Hey you guys!
It's been a while since I've last emailed the jam, but I have news that
everybody has to hear!
Before I start, I have to warn you that I don't want this thing to be
posted all around the globe. And this is still an unconfirmed report, so
PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE, DON'T SPREAD THE WORD!
I'm a student at The Trebas Institute of Music in Montreal, and I'm taking
a course in sound engineering. In my recording theory class, my teacher
(who will remain anonymous) is not only a teacher, but also a recording
assistant at Le Studio, in Morin Heights, Quebec (where Rush and
Queensryche have previously recorded). He was at the studio yesterday, and
he came back with the greatest of news!
Apparently, Dream Theater management has booked some time for January at
Le Studio! Which means that by all means this is not confirmed, but should
be within the next few days. My teacher even offered me to come down and
meet them during the session (ha ha, looooseeers!)
I will try to keep you appraised as the situation develops, but for now,
this is UNCONFIRMED. Please DO NOT send email at my address for more info,
questions or whatever. Anyways, I don't read personals, so I'm just going
to erase them.
Dream Theater RULES!!!!!
Seb
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Date: 31 Oct 96 15:02:23 -0800
From: "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: TTT in class
Message-ID: <199610312359.PAA11512@mailsun2.us.oracle.com>
someone wrote:
>>Anywho, today in Music of the '90s (a course in which I'm getting
105%!!), we began our playing of music samples, to learn us "song
analyzation" (for those kids that don't know what a verse or a chorus is
- these kids make up 87.3% of my class). So, anyhow, mine got picked
("Take The Time")
>>
interesting! I took a course called "American Popular Music" in college and
wrote an 8-page paper analyzing the shit out of TTT. I think that song
provides perfect fodder for song analysis - it's got everything! Earned me a
citation for the course!! Anyone know how to convert a mac word file to a
pc-compatible one? I'd like to get a copy
of that sucker on my current setup.
thanks,
-Neil.
"Ah, the Miracle Mile... Where value wears a neon sombrero and there's not a
single church or library to offend the eye."
--->Homer J. Simpson<---
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 08:07:19 -0500
From: "Trey Allen" <tallen@cybermax.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: WOW!!!! MessaBoggie JP samples!!
Message-ID: <199611010115.UAA05999@max.cybermax.net>
Hello everyone!! Long time ahe?? Well if you haven't checked out the
MesaBoggie smples of John - DO!!!! www.mesaboggie.com
If these samples are anything like the new album - we are all in for a
treat!! This is some of the best DT stuff I've ever heard!!!
**********************************************************
"I hate to go to bed...
I hate to wake up...
But I love to sleep...???"
tallen@cybermax.net
http://www.cybermax.net/~tallen/home.html
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 18:31:07 -0700
From: "LRW" <sir@micron.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Fw: VOICES digest 1
Message-ID: <m0vJ8UF-000QWQC@mis01.micron.net>
Sorry to take up a bunch of space, but plenty of people are interested...
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> From: voices@arastar.com
> To: Multiple recipients of list <voices@anthor.arastar.com>
> Subject: VOICES digest 1
> Date: Monday, October 28, 1996 5:45 AM
>
> VOICES Digest 1
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1) WELCOME TO VOICES
> by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:00:29 -0800
> From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
> To: voices
> Subject: WELCOME TO VOICES
> Message-ID: <9610290300.AA01260@anthor.arastar.com>
>
> I'm not dead.
>
> Neither is this list. I've just suffered a number of events
> (graduation, moving, etc) which have delayed the start of this list.
> Yes, it was a major delay. Yes, I had the alias set up wrong so mail
> to voices bounced (now fixed). Yes, I probably deserve an
> ytse-minor-punishment of some sort.
>
> Currently the queue is empty. If you want to post, reply to this message
> or send to <voices@arastar.com> and your message will be queued. When
> I get a chance (probably Thursday night) I'll go through the queue and
> release messages to the list (currently 93 subscribers).
>
> If you subscribed but you don't remember what voices is, it's a moderated
> Dream Theater mailing list. Unlike the moderation late last year, this
> list won't have a throughput limit. As with the list last year, I hope
> to not have to actually moderate out anything (so behave yourselves ;)
>
> Please don't ask questions which are answered in the FAQ (though you can
> ask "where is the faq"--I'll filter those out and answer them offline).
> If you want to discuss an answer from the FAQ (so the FAQ can be
corrected)
> that's ok.
>
> So welcome to Voices :)
>
> Oh, almost forgot. Since it's been a while you might have lost interest.
> If so you can
>
> UNSUBSCRIBING FROM VOICES
>
> To unsubscribe send:
>
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> --
> Ken Bibb "If the boundary breaks I'm no longer alone
> kbibb@arastar.com Don't discourage me
> jester@crash.cts.com Bring out the stars/On the first day"
> David Sylvian--"The First Day"
>
>
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