YTSEJAM Digest 1808
Today's Topics:
1) Autoreply Message
by svjohnson@amoco.com
2) Cd scores
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
3) Flecktones
by robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
4) DT conversions
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
5) more DT conversions
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
6) introducing DT to others
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
7) David Lee eats bratwurst....rejects Brewers' Plumpers
by KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
8) Whaqt to show Dt-fan Prospects!
by kurt@fgallery.com
9) stuff
by DreamNDay@aol.com
10) for Robert Quezada
by Ronald <petnrond@rad.net.id>
11) A public thanx!!!!
by Cliff & Pam Wheaton <cwheaton@micron.net>
12) Working Man
by kurt@fgallery.com
13) Various Ramblings?
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
14) Various Ramblings?
by kurt@fgallery.com
15) hoey!
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
16) Re: Various Ramblings?
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
17) hotcakes (NCC - no cow content:)
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
18) Test For Echo
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
19) Spock's Beard
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
20) double album/Test for Echo lyrics
by Jeff Falk <jefffalk@bu.edu>
21) Charlie Dominici
by DreamNDay@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 96 01:15:27 -0500
From: svjohnson@amoco.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Autoreply Message
Message-ID: <199609070615.AA02381@interlock.amoco.com>
I will be on vacation until Monday, September 9. On the 9th =
and 10th I will be on official business. If it is urgent, =
please contact Neil Geary at (312) 856-5373. I will be =
returning calls/messages on Wednesday, September 11.
Steve
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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 02:22:11 -0600
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Cd scores
Message-ID: <323130B3.36AC@mo.net>
hey, I just scored some killer deals on some good CDs today at, yes,
Now Hear This (man, I like that store more and more each time I go
there). I got King's X's Faith , Hope, Love and Rush's Counterparts
for, get this, $1.99 on CD, and Bruce Dickinson's Skunkworks for $3.99.
They also had multiple copies of Counterparts for that price, as well as
Megadeth's Countown to Extinction for $1.99 on CD. They even had a
Marillion CD (can't remember which one, but I believe it was from 1989,
and it said printed in England on the back) for $4.99. I will probably
pick both of those up soon (as soon as I send off my Precious Things
payment - it's in the mail tomorrow - well, today if you want to get
technical - Mike :). There's also a record/CD sale this Sunday at The
American Czech Center somewhere in St. Louis. I remember going there
something like 2 years ago. They had a pretty decent selection of DT
boots, as well as many others of interest (they actually had quite the
crapload of goodies :). If any St. Louis jammers (or anyone else for
that matter, that might be in the area) wants details, e-mail me and
I'll let you know what all else I know about it. Cheers.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 03:18:56 -0500
From: robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Flecktones
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.9.7.3.18.56.2510543059.169227@bbs.icdc.com>
Anybody else out there catch Bela and co. on PBS tonight? They jammed
along with the Boston Pops! Wow. Talk about phenomenol bass... I
don't own any of their albums at present. Recommendations, anyone?
I, too, just got Working Man, and was bracing myself for the supposed
"awful" vocals on "Natural Science". Devon Townsend has got to be one
of the weirdest singers I've ever heard, but bad? I say nay.
Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap
"C'mon! Yeah!" -- Mark Slaughter, "Anthem"
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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 02:34:55 -0600
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: The Boys from The Dwarf <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT conversions
Message-ID: <323133AF.6BDC@mo.net>
>Or a Bass Player?
Metropolis: Pt. I. It's got that friggin' thing that Myung does in the
middle. Since I haven't tried it yet (of course, the tab I have for it
form the JM video is for a 6-er, and I have a measly four-string, and I
need to get my action seriously adjusted before I can pull any of that
off), I don't really know how difficult it really is, but it just sounds
so cool and amazing, I know a number of bassists that don't know much
about DT would be floored.
For a drummer, i have actually tried with the opening section of 6:00,
and with The Ytsejam solo from LiT. I mean, it wasn't hard core
conversion time, though. More of a casual thing, so it didn't have a
really intense effect. Besides, that was also sort of spur of the
moment.
the others I'd have to think about a bit. Cheers.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 02:41:43 -0600
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: The Boys from the Dwarf <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: more DT conversions
Message-ID: <32313547.3892@mo.net>
Oh yeah, I do remember having Wait for Sleep on one time while a
Malaysian friend who just happens to be a very talented pianist (yes,
this was a coincidence :) heard the piano intro, and he totally loved
it. He also liked parts of Learning to Live, too. I need to get ahold
of him again and work on him some more before he jets back home.
Cheers.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:28:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: introducing DT to others
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9609071043.C12296-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Michael Pomerleau <72064.614@CompuServe.COM>
> Subject: MY THOUGHTS (Part 2)
>
> If you had a friend, Co-worker, etc... who was a drummer, which song from DT
> would you play for them to get them interested in Dream Theater? I mean what
It would definitely have to be Metropolis. Er, Part I that is. :)
> What about for a Guitar Player?
Depends. Metal guitarists get MEtropolis or PMU. Less heavy ones maybe
get Surrounded or Innocence Faded. But they all hear Slient Man.
> Or a Bass Player?
Metropolis.
> Or a KeyBoard Player?
Metropolis and WFS/LTL.
> Or a Singer?
Erotomania. :) Seriously, the acoustic tracks from Acoustic Dreams,
esp. Tears and O Holy Night. Oh, and Silent Man, too.
OK, now I'm going to deal with probably the first of a couple birthday
hangovers. Skadz, you still alive out there?
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http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart
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http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:50:46 GMT
From: KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
To: READ SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: David Lee eats bratwurst....rejects Brewers' Plumpers
Message-ID: <199609071550.PAA12016@pipe6.t2.usa.pipeline.com>
On Sep 06, 1996 23:11:23, 'ytsejam@ax.com' wrote:
>
>> I found one in Siberia (Eastern) the other day during my vacations. No
>> Working Man, tho'. I'd apparently just missed the last copy to a guy who
>> had come in with a bottle of Tequila in his hand bellowing "I D O N ' T
>N
>> E E D N O C O F F E E ! ! !"
>>
>
>Shit....last time I was in Siberia, I picked up a copy of "David Lee Roth
>does Polka".....hmmm you may haveseen my evil russian twin....
>
>M O J O
But, did you get the *Spanish-language* version? DLR is ever
so talented. "Mire como estoy comiendo saurkraut" to the
tune of "oye como va" or something. But with an accordian.
-- Kevin (kwmadden@usa.pipeline.com) GO PACKERS...Next up....Philadelphia.------------------------------
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 12:22:28 -0400 From: kurt@fgallery.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Whaqt to show Dt-fan Prospects! Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.9.7.12.22.28.2916992174.338829@bbs.fgallery.com>
Well im my opinion..thebest way to show people DT is having them watch LiT and other videos..that waythey can listen and SEE how brilliant they are.. because some people might need a visual aid to really know and really experience the whole DT thing :) for example myung's part in metropolis .sure it sounds really cool..but for a non bassist..well it wont sound like much..just as cool.. but if the person sees Myung doing it.. well.. theyll say "whoa" ..jsut the same with petrucci and nin-guitarrists..
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 12:26:07 -0400 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: stuff Message-ID: <960907122607_517693233@emout12.mail.aol.com>
>Five Gratuitous CD's: >===================== >1. Sublime: Sublime >2. Rush: Rush >3. Pearl Jam: Ten ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >4. Sara Hickman: Shortstop >5. Metallica: Load
>Glad to see I'm not the only one on the jam who likes Pearl Jam. I was lucky enough >to get through to FT&T for tickets to the show at Randall's Island. Anyone else going >to a PJ show in the near future? > >I think Gary Hoey might have done Wild Stringdom for a little while. I could be >wrong. No, Hoey's column was called Hocus Pocus, and it ran at the same time as WS. Just a useless fact: The first issue with Hocus Pocus had Dimebag Darrell on the cover.
>> I just got 'Test For Echo' today :-) (on it's release date, of course) >ALREADY??? Damn! You lucky Europeans! Yeah, I dunno why our CDs come out over there first (Not that Rush is American, but I have a point). When I was in Paris back in April, I got Rage Against The Machine's Evil Empire a whole week before it came out over here! (At the equivilant of $20, but a good deal to get so soon, plus the colors are slightly different on the cover).
>Drums - Under a Glass Moon - I don't know why but I like the Powerful Drumming Ditto. Some good changes in that song. >Guitar - Under a Glass Moon - reminds me of Steve Vai's "Passion and Warfare" >Album I'd pick this one too, but because of the INSANE Solo. >Bass - Metropolis - for the quick finger tapping part in the solo Eh, sure, why not. >Keys - Learning to Live - Just Because I'd say Surrounded, because it shows how good of a songwriter Kevin is and still gives the rest of the band some tiem to play (Which is why i wouldnn't pick WFS) >Singing - Learning to Live - I just like the way JL sings in this one Again, I'd go with Surrounded because he starts of real mellow, and then his gets into this whole fast part where his voice hits some really good notes, and then gets mellow again.
And finally, I'll give in to the trend and include my top five recordings at the moment.
1. Faith No More-King For A Day, Fool For A Lifetime 2. Fear Factory-Demanufacture 3. Machine Head-Burn My Eyes 4. Soundgarden-Down On The Upside 5. 311
later--------------Brian
B.S. Sorry for all the waste of bandwidth ;P
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Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 00:29:06 -0500 From: Ronald <petnrond@rad.net.id> To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Subject: for Robert Quezada Message-ID: <3168A422.2741@rad.net.id>
Hey man , I lose your HP address. please email me your HP address.
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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 10:39:37 -0600 From: Cliff & Pam Wheaton <cwheaton@micron.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: A public thanx!!!! Message-ID: <3231A549.7001@micron.net>
Hi all! This is a public thanx to the fellas that E-mailed me about the Rush Premeir-Brian Kirk, Osh and Bryan Hayward. Hey guys-I truly appreciate your efforts!!! Thanx again!! Keep rockin' Pam
-- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace </__"Rockin Cabbie"__\o THE INTERNET 0 0 E-mail: cwheaton@micron.net URL:http://netnow.micron.net/~cwheaton ************************************************************************************
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:54:30 -0400 From: kurt@fgallery.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Working Man Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.9.7.13.54.30.2916992174.338849@bbs.fgallery.com>
This cd is so awesome.. for a person who had never actually heard rush,only the live disc that is white and has like triangle/sqare/circle shapes of the 3 members.. (forgot the title) well its a big difference since NOW i can understand where the rush influence is in DT and such bands.. this cd rules..im lloking forward to getting Rush's cd's..
Personal Favorite right now..
Analog Kid
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 14:19:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Yitz-see-jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Various Ramblings? Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960907140809.6881E-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Hiya, Kids.
So, i'm sitting here on a Saturday afternoon listening to King Crimson's "Starless And Bible Black", which kicks much ass, and the 132 messages in my mailbox have gone away. I've come to thinking about the new Rush album.
No, i didn't hear the premier of it, for i was busy...but i _HAVE_ heard TfE a few times, and i don't think i like it very much, for a reason like:
Do you really need to say VERTIGO 120913 times? Is there a point? I dunno, but i think that Neil's getting more and more political. I could be wrong. Musically, Alex talks alot. His guitars are all over the record, which i like. Neil's in the background, which is new. Geddy? Well, he's just Geddy. :)
So, i have mixed reviews on TfE. I have to hear the album to give a full opinion, which brings me to dee-tee (look, ma. dream thetaer content. woohoo!) As much as we want to see the Theater on empTV, and on radio, i really don't see that as the case, and i'll explain why:
The Ytsejam (with the band included, since they know of us, and are doing ther Big Brother act currently) is a very closeknit group. We know each other, we hang out...we're friends. _IF_ empTV were to pick up the Theater as a "buzz band", then they would be classified as trendy. Do we really want this? Do we really want 1000's of angstfull teenagers (well, more than we have now) to think of the Theater as trendy? Can you see the guys in this kinda light? I particulary don't want to. I'm sure they'll cross over, and they money will roll in, but it just won't be the same. They won't play a Birch Hill. They won't go to a Ytsecon. They'll be playing at MSG, The Spectrum (here in Philly), among other places. We'll be removed. I think one of the reasons i like the Theater so much is that i've gotten to hang with John, Mike and Derek. They're nice guys. They're normal guys who just happen to play an instrument really well. Maybe i fear that we'll be put on the backburner for the record company, and the "new" fans they'll get once they crossover into the mainstream.
Wow. I sure can ramble. Ok. I'm done.
Mike, aka Syrinx. (c) 1996 Happy Fun Ball, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:05:58 -0400 From: kurt@fgallery.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Various Ramblings? Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.9.7.15.5.58.2916992174.338873@bbs.fgallery.com>
About not wanting Dt to break into mainstream..well youve got a big piont there.. i do not want people now saing how Cool dt is like they say aboutalanis.. the thing i would really like is for people to realize the musical greatness that lies within dt.. and how alternative music is well.lesser..
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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 14:21:10 -0500 From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: hoey! Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960907192110.006bd538@mail.inlink.com>
> >I think Gary Hoey might have done Wild Stringdom for a little while. I could be >wrong.
yup, he did... i think he had some stuff from "walkin the nose" if i recall... but does anyone remember how long he did the column?
~Rip
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:29:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: kurt@fgallery.com Subject: Re: Various Ramblings? Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960907152705.17940A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> About not wanting Dt to break into mainstream..well youve got a big > piont there.. i do not want people now saing how Cool dt is like they > say aboutalanis.. the thing i would really like is for people to realize > the musical greatness that lies within dt.. and how alternative music is > well.lesser..
Sure, we want everyone to know how great the Theater is, but there's a downside. Let's be realistic, tho. Most teen's want ANGST lyrics, and easy music. The Theater is very complex, and i don't think the kids could get into it, for it being too complex for them.
as for "alternative" music being lesser, i disagree. It's not lesser, just different. (Remember, the term "alternative" is a subjective term, since what we consider to be alternative is now the mainstreem). In fact, keeping with the defination of alternative, i could say that Dream Theater is alternative. It is: an alternative to the current music out. So there. :p
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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 14:41:25 -0500 From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: hotcakes (NCC - no cow content:) Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960907194125.006b9844@mail.inlink.com>
i just went back to rocktoys to order a few of those SEVEN dt styles of shirts they had... check this out-
> >In a message dated 96-09-07 14:32:27 EDT, you write: > ><< I seem to recall on a previous visit you had quite a number of Dream > Theater T-Shirts... however, I just came back today to hopefully place > an order and now there's only one listed. Did they all sell that fast? > Just curious, thanx. > >> > >Yes, Dream Theater stuff sells VERY fast. > >Thanks for writing, >Billy (rocktoys@aol.com) >
woohoo! and boohoo for the people who bought them before i could get one! i wanted to snag me one o' them groovy ACoS shirts. :P
~Rip
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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 19:41:26 GMT From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Test For Echo Message-ID: <3231c9f8.8336626@mail.inforamp.net>
Good afternoon,
>Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 20:02:33 +-200 >From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
>I just got 'Test For Echo' today :-) (on it's release date, of course)
I picked it up yesterday (the 6th) 4 days before release date. What can I say, I have friends in local retail. :) I think it is similar to CP although perhaps a little more aggressive. I like most of it but it isn't the Rush that I grew up with anymore. Granted, everyone changes, but it's still missing something. My favorites so far are Virtuality, Test For Echo and Totem.
Cheers,
Rick Toronto
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:47:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Yitz-see-jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Spock's Beard Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960907154626.20212B-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Hey. So, the mail just came, and in it came a nice suprise: Spock's Beard. I have to ask Greg Walker at Syn-Phonic for sending it to me without paying for it first. Anyway, Mike was right. It's good. Damn good. Very keyboard-heavy. I'm still on the first song. It's good stuff.
----------------------------------------------- Michael B. Ostrich - musical advisor/consultant email: syrinx@dreamt.org syrinx@wicked.stigmata.org syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
"..when i look back on the past, it's a wonder i'm not yet extinct. all the the mistakes and bad judgements i made nearly pushed me to the brink. it doesn't pay to be too nice, it's the one thing i have learned. still, i make my fossil bed, now i toss and turn." - adrian belew.
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 16:31:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Falk <jefffalk@bu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: double album/Test for Echo lyrics Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9609071652.A59775-0100000@acs2.bu.edu>
It seems unlikely that it would happen, but if the band thinks that a double album is the best way to present their next musical offering, they should go for it. While few (if any) bands have reached a larger audience with a double album, ultimately the music should come first. There's a first time for everything; maybe a new Dream Theater double album could start an exciting chapter in both Dream Theater and double album history. For an example of a band challenging conventional wisdom and their record company and triumphing, see Rush and the release of 2112. Speaking (or typing, I guess) of Rush, I just read the lyrics to the new album. So far, I'm a little disappointed, but maybe they'll grow on me (like Images and Words did).
Jeff Falk jefffalk@bu.edu
five cd's I've been playing recently (apologies to Adam Barnhart):
The Beatles Let it Be (Capitol) Deep Purple Made in Japan (Warner Bros.) White Lion Mane Attraction (Atlantic) Rush Fly By Night (Mercury) Mahavisnu Orchestra Birds of Fire (Columbia)
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 16:57:16 -0400 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Charlie Dominici Message-ID: <960907165714_279666880@emout16.mail.aol.com>
Hey, everyone, I thought you guys would get a kick out of this story. I was at Dunkin Donuts in Valley Stream (Long Island for those who do not know) and I was wearing a Queensrche shirt. Some guy walks up to me and was like "QUEENSRYCE!!!!!!" So I just smiled and went to the counter. The guy was like "What about METALLICA!!!!!!". I said what about them?" and he said "they're good too, right?" so I'm like "Yeah they're good." Trying to ignore the guy, he said "What about Fates Warning?" So I started to pay attention to him. I was talking to him for a couple of minutes, and when I brought DT up he told me Charlie Dominici became a crackhead in Hewlett(I think it was Hewlett. I could be wrong). Someone I know said that he was getting filled up at a gas station and he was wearing a DT shirt. Some he said Charlie walked up to him and was like "I sung on their first album, you know" and showed him his tatoo. Then a few days later he was pulling out of his driveway and Charlie was passing by and stopped and honked his horn and waved. Interesting isn't it?
later--------------Brian
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