YTSEJAM Digest 1827
Today's Topics:
1) Re: WORKING MAN RECALLED!!!!!!
by skooc@earthlink.net
2) Concert Videos and Boots
by "Scott D Houldin" <sdh@eniac.seas.upenn.edu>
3) Re: mercyful fate live
by skooc@earthlink.net
4) Dalbello plus Working Man available in the UK.
by Mark Tiplady <post@itchy.demon.co.uk>
5) James on stage
by jazzmin@pop1.backbone.ou.edu
6) postings
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
7) Dark Towers JLB Post!
by Dave Hatlee <buster@ee.net>
8) Dream Theater Demo and LIVE CD's For Sale Here ! and Vids too!
by Tim <axe@usa.nai.net>
9) James' voice
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
10) New CD update!!
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
11) Pittsburgh show (10/29/94) and 6:00 samples
by Rajkai Péter <intcred@ibm.net>
12) Hockey (DTC)
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
13) Tape Tree
by James Runde <darwin@monolith.bcl.net>
14) Re: VH and Gary Cherone (NDTC)
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
15) Superior and Rush
by Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
16) Jazzmin's poem, other stuff
by Cliff & Pam Wheaton <cwheaton@micron.net>
17) Chi. Tribune Rush review
by svjohnson@amoco.com
18) Recycled Lithium
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
19) NDTC: My haven't things turned....
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 21:50:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: skooc@earthlink.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: WORKING MAN RECALLED!!!!!!
Message-ID: <199609120450.VAA10520@andorra.it.earthlink.net>
That's a good question Damon. I know out here in San Francisco that the DJ's
sometimes play bootleg songs, I think it all depends on the program
director. If it were me I'd play it, but I don't know your boss. If you work
the overnight shift you'd have a better chance playing it.
I finally heard a song on T4E today. wasn't too impressed. I can't wait to
get back to work so I can hear the whole thing :)
At 08:49 PM 9/11/96 -0700, you wrote:
>If this is true, I think I will just dub mine onto tape before sending it
>back, if I send it back. I wonder if this means that I won't be able to play
>it on my progrock show anymore. :)
>
>
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:51:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Scott D Houldin" <sdh@eniac.seas.upenn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Concert Videos and Boots
Message-ID: <199609120551.BAA05221@red.seas.upenn.edu>
Is anyone willing to make copies of their concert videos and or
bootlegs if they are sent the blanks and postage? I would really like to
get some DT boots or videos.
Thanks,
Scott
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 23:05:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: skooc@earthlink.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: mercyful fate live
Message-ID: <199609120605.XAA27781@sweden.it.earthlink.net>
What's this I hear of a MF tour? Right fucking on! Just in time for
Christmas. If anyone has any info on this tour plelase emaill me. I saw KD
back in 1988 and he ws incredible! This is a show I do not want to miiss!
Scott
At 09:37 PM 9/11/96 -0700, you wrote:
>>Well, if Bordin's playing for Ozzy, I may just have to check him out if he
>>plays Middletown later in the month (even though I'm already going to Pearl
>>Jam and Dave Matthews and I wanna see Mercyful Fate and Soundgarden! So many
>>concerts, so little cash ;(
>
>well, whatever you do, DEFINITELY go see mercyful fate! if you haven't
>seen them live, it is absolutely amazing. king diamod is a superb performer
>as are the rest of the members. they put on a great show. besides,
>king diamond will be opening the show. now, you know it's gonna
>be a great show when king is opening for himself!
>(i bet he's a tired motherfucker after each show, though.)
>
>later,
>matt.
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>m a t t r o s i n / imagescape@tamu.edu
>S U R R E A L I T Y / http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape/
>dark ethereal music / SURREALITY II AVAILABLE NOW
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>
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:04:53 +0100
From: Mark Tiplady <post@itchy.demon.co.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dalbello plus Working Man available in the UK.
Message-ID: <842461384.24002.0@itchy.demon.co.uk>
> Is the Dalbello mentioned on the last digest the same Dalbello
>that wrote Queensryche's "Gonna Get Close to You" and sang "Start Today"
>on the Victor album (Alex Lifeson's side project)?
Just to clear things up (along with a shameless plug for one of my
favourite artists), yes that is the same Dalbello - namely Lisa Dalbello a
Canadian artiste who's been around for some time now.
Her version of Gonna Get Close To You is on her whomanfoursays (geddit?)
album and is done with a much sparser arrangement than the Queensryche
effort. She's also had two of her songs covered by Heart - Wait For An
Answer and Black On Black.
Her new album 'Whore' (nice title) has just been released in Europe (her
first for 9 years. And we've all been griping about the wait between DT
albums ;-), and is due out Stateside very soon. It's a much harder edged
release than her previous albums and I think it would appeal to a fair
amount of people on this list. Very intricate arrangements and _that_
voice. She seems to have got much more guitar orientated this time around
with some of the songs having a distinct 'Eastern' style to them, belly
dancing music as AirDance would put it - Revenge Of Sleeping Beauty has
definite Kashmir overtones to it.
If you're interested in her work check out her Web Site at
http://www.dalbello.com.
The other point I wanted to make is for UK jammers. If you want to get
hold of the Working Man CD without paying those HUGE import prices it's now
in stock at GFT records (mail order). Look in Q magazine or E-mail me if
you want the address etc.
Mark.
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 96 01:47:42 -0500
From: jazzmin@pop1.backbone.ou.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: James on stage
Message-ID: <3237b20c6000004@cliff.ou.edu>
Someone's girlfriend sez she doesn't like the way JLB moves about on stage.
Me, I think of Robert Plant every time. "Beauty to my eyes" and that hand
thing. The one big gripe I have with DT is that it's funny to watch JLB.
Perhaps we should get him a Stage Presence for Christmas.
DONTFLAMEME! I'm smiling as I write this, DT is too cool, it's just a silly
little post, not meant to provoke any fights or flame wars or bad kharma.
.. but does anyone else see this connexion???
=) jazz sommers
jazzmin@ou.edu
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 02:03:45 -0600
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: postings
Message-ID: <3237C3E1.4B2D@mo.net>
>Oh, come now. You all know that I've been condensing all of my posts >into one. But if Dale wants a little competition...
Hmm. Three words: BRING IT ON!!!!!! :) Really, my postings have been
down quite a bit lately due to my SERIOUS lack of time (I spend all my
waking hours at work (yeah, I'm really sleeping right now)). However, I
will likely be putting my 2 weeks notice in on one of my jobs very soon,
so I may still be a force to be reckoned with. Man, I really need to
get some sleep. And I still have at least five jams to read (probably
more than that). I hate work. Really, I'm not lazy. If it was
something I enjoyed, then it wouldn't be work. MAn, I'm tired. Later
all.
Ooh, almost forgot. In case anyone knows the places that will be
carrying tix for the Oct. 31 Rush show in St. Louis, please let me know,
as I plan on being there when they go on sale (the tickets, not Rush,
though if they are up for sale...)
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 03:03:55 -0400
From: Dave Hatlee <buster@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dark Towers JLB Post!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960912070355.006a2b50@ee.net>
Dark Tower's post on James LaBrie was incredible! If you have not read it in
Jam #1825, go back and read it! After reading, I can finally rest knowing that
someone has managed to put into words what I wish I could express. :)
It was so good, that I couldn't just quote a small piece and put it here..
you'll have to read it!
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 03:02:56 -0400
From: Tim <axe@usa.nai.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dream Theater Demo and LIVE CD's For Sale Here ! and Vids too!
Message-ID: <199609120702.DAA26114@usa.nai.net>
Dear Jammers:
To everyone who had orders pending with me...I'm pretty sure everything is
out, and everyone who ordered should be happily listening to your discs or
watching your vids right now or very very soon...
I now have all of the following DT Titles IN STOCK and READY TO SHIP
(NO DELAYS!!!) upon order..
Dream Theater: as Majesty, the 1986 Demo CD - 1 CD
Dream Theater: No Sleep Since Brooklyn / Instrumental 3 - 1 CD
Dream Theater: Instrumental II - 1 CD
Dream Theater: Instrumental I - the 1987 Recordings - 1 CD
Rising Power: Power to the People - 1 CD
Dream Theater: Awake in Japan 1995 - 1 VHS Video
Queensryche: Global Theatre, Middletown, NY 1995 - 1 VHS Video
FOR SETLISTS PLEASE SEE MY WEB PAGE AT: http://w3.nai.net/~axe/dt.htm
IF YOU WOULD LIKE CURRENT ORDERING INFO, PLEASE EMAIL ME AT axe@nai.net
WITH THE SUBJECT 'SEND ORDER INFO'.
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tim
axe@nai.net
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 02:16:49 -0600
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: James' voice
Message-ID: <3237C6F1.4FED@mo.net>
About JLB's voice, I like it both live and in studio. However (yeah,
knew this was coming), he does seem to slur words or whatever at times
live, and that can be annoying (I hate how he says "go back to skweahh
wahn" in TTT live, though that is nitpicking a bit. I guess this comes
from my theatre classes where I had enunciation shoved down my throat).
As far as the album performances are concerned, I like how he sings on
both of them. I mean, the slightly more clean voice on I&W seems more
apropos for the cleaner sound of that album, whereas the technique he
uses on Awake seems a bit more appropriate for the slightly more
aggressive tunes (exception there - Silent Man is a good example of
clean singing). Of course, I'm not a singer, or an authority on
singing, so this is just an opinion of one tired soul.
Hmm, they're talking about the Tull/ELP show in St. Louis on TV right
now. My supervisor at one of my jobs just told me that he got free tix
to it. Cheers.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:24:25 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: rdt@novia.net
Subject: New CD update!!
Message-ID: <199609120124.SAA15061@goodguy.goodnet.com>
Hi all!
There's a new limited edition CD update being posted sometime
tonight to the website at
http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/archives/ginfo/mikebahr.html
for those who have ordered Tori Amos: Inside The Storm and my
various Rush and Dream Theater CD creations.
TORI AMOS: INSIDE THE STORM IS NOW SOLD OUT.
It's bad news, I know. All current reservations will be honoured.
The update will explain the unhappy circumstances behind the necessity of
cutting the print run to 100 discs. Ironically, this will make it the
rarest Tori CD of all time, and exponentially more desirable than before,
right when supply is at its lowest.
Those of you with paid orders needn't fear: you're the lucky ones.
You WILL be getting your copies. Fairly soon now, actually.
Take care everyone, feel free to email me if you have questions or
need help with anything.
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - Scoobaca RULES!
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:13:35 +0200
From: Rajkai Péter <intcred@ibm.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Pittsburgh show (10/29/94) and 6:00 samples
Message-ID: <3237E24F.5AE0@ibm.net>
Hi,
I'm looking for somebody who would copy the video of the Pittsburgh show (10/29/94)
and send me, since Brandon can't make a copy until December. Of course, I would
pay for the trade, just write me how much you want. Also looking for other DT
videos.
Another wish: is there anyone who can borrow John Huston's movie "The Dead",
and sample those words which are in "6:00" for me? I've already got the
movie "Dead Poet's Society" in English and did the sampling for ACOS but
our band now also wants to play "6:00". I would pay your work, too!
If you can't sample, please, also e-mail me, cuz I can't get this movie
here in English language, but if you send a copy of the film, that's ok.
Thanx in advance,
Peter
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:29:05 GMT
From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hockey (DTC)
Message-ID: <3236b351.2079790@mail.inforamp.net>
Good morning,
>Date: Tue, 10 Sep 96 11:58:58 EDT
>From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
>PS - USA will sweep the Canadians in the World Cup of Hockey finals
They sure will! Last night was a great show of supremacy. ;)
In all seriousness though, This is basically an NHL all-star
game before the regular one. I just hope the play is physical. It'll
get everyone all revved up for the opening of the season which is only
3 weeks away!
I can't wait!
What is the DT connection here? Apparently James was a
hardcore Leaf fan when he was in Toronto. :)
Cheers,
Rick
Toronto
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 07:10:22 -0600 (GMT-0600)
From: James Runde <darwin@monolith.bcl.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tape Tree
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9609120710.A9819-0100000@monolith>
I have about 65 people so far signed up for the DT Tape tree. If you
missed the tree announcement or want info about it, just send me some
mail and I'll get it out to you.
Jay
darwin@bcl.net
http://www.bcl.net/~darwin
Team Internet 96: http://www.netjammer.com/TI/
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:59:46 -0400
From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: VH and Gary Cherone (NDTC)
Message-ID: <v01520d00ae5d8065cfa5@[207.90.122.62]>
<skooc@earthlink.net> from Y'Jam #1822 wrote:
>I would say that the chances of Gary joinging are better
>than 50%. He spent a couple weeks in L.A. with Ed and the
>boys and also made it clear that he is available whenever
>they wanted him. He has NO problem waiting till after any
>possible tour with Roth.
I'm hurt, devastated. Perhaps it'll just be a side thing...and he'll go
back and do Extreme records/tours as well...
>Even though I'd hate to see Extreme split, this would be
>a great gig for Gary.
Yeah, it would be a great gig for Gary, but so is Extreme... :)
>Extreme gets ZERO support from it's label, and Nuno seems
>more interested in being a solo artist.
Nuno's solo album isn't coming out until Jan/Feb...they've also been
writing new Extreme material, so I hardly doubt that Extreme is dead in
Nuno's eyes...
>Also, he's willing to doth BOTH eras of VH, which is
>something DLR is incapable vocally of doing and Sammy
>wasn't willing to do because of jealousy.
Well, *if* Gary gets the job, that just might make me buy a VH album.
Right now I'm borderline on buying 1984, and perhaps some others, but
nothing can seem to get me to buy them...I'd buy it to hear Gary...
>Scott
Dan
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Dan Temmesfeld --- email: dantemm@erinet.com
http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm
"Home of the Unofficial GALACTIC COWBOYS Page"
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:39:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Superior and Rush
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960912093718.13941B-100000@rossby>
Hey everyone,
I would like to know how to get my hands on some superior music. So many
are ranting and raving, but I cannot find any of their music on ANY
store's inventory here in OKlahoma. ANy suggestions?
Now wrt Rush: I think TFE is their best since Hold Your Fire. They have
an added intensity and grunginess, yet it's still clean and professional.
I still have to get used to the instrumental song - kinda disappointing
initially, but hopefully it'll grow on me.
Jon C.
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:17:11 -0600
From: Cliff & Pam Wheaton <cwheaton@micron.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jazzmin's poem, other stuff
Message-ID: <32383787.6A53@micron.net>
Hi!
Dude-I like your poem!!
Got TfE the other day-I love it!!
Does anyone have a setlist for the ELP/Tull show? If not-how about
pointing me to the right place for this? How 'bout the same for Alan
Parsons Project?
Yes , I quit lurking for the moment.!! It's good to see all of our
college folx back-makes the 'jams more interesting!!
DT Rox!!!<--- DTC!!!
Keep rockin'
Pam
--
Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton
_____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace
</__"Rockin Cabbie"__\o “THE INTERNET”
0 0 E-mail:
cwheaton@micron.net
URL:http://netnow.micron.net/~cwheaton
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 96 11:20:10 -0500
From: svjohnson@amoco.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Chi. Tribune Rush review
Message-ID: <199609121620.AA22992@interlock.amoco.com>
OK, Rush-heads......
"Test For Echo * * * .5
Rus his one of those few veteran progressive bands that truly
continues progressing, even after two decades of crafting some of
rock's most adventurous epics. As they began demonstrating so well in
the previous 'Counterparts' (1993), the premier power trio from Canada
further strips its complex dynamic down to itsessence in this 16th
studio effort. Not only have the keyboards been pacified to a
textural trace, but Neil Peart has tempered his whirlwind drumming to
a sparser, more charply aimed attack. It's unmistakably Rush in all
its thoughtful glory.
- Dean Golemis"
Of course, another review gave Frente 3 stars. Oh, well.
Steve
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:34:47 -0700
From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Recycled Lithium
Message-ID: <199609121634.JAA16007@main.cfmc.com>
>From: btomko@glasscity.net
>
>Bela Fleck is cool. Try either "Flight of the Cosmic Hippo" or "Three Flew
>Over the Cuckoo's Nest".
Yeah, that's one scary set of dudes. As a bassist, Victor Wooten obviously
impresses the hell out of me, he's just phenomenal. But his brother is
pretty damn scary himself, doing the WEIRD percussion thing. And Bela
Fleck, of course, is the greatest jazz banjoist there ever was. "UFO Tofu"
is a good one, too, incidentally. And they're busy right now opening for
Hootie and the Blowfish -- now THAT'S an interesting combination. Something
like when Golden Bough opened for Tempest, I'm told.
>From: "Mark Fitchett" <mafit@msn.com>
>
>I was Interested to read about the guy who loved Lars Ulrich but had no
>respect for MP. I dont know if you get Kerrang widely in the USA/worldwide but
>when DT did their Ronnie Scott's show it got an excellent review and the
>journo made a point of saying that he'd heard "Damage Inc." played properly
>for the first time and asked Lars to take note!
Hmmm....I've SEEN Lars play "Damage Inc." -- doesn't seem like he's had a
lot of trouble with it. And for what it's worth, I think Lars can play a
non-4/4 beat pretty well....but that isn't the sole definition of a quality
drummer. I'm thinking about "For Whom The Bell Tolls" here -- that's a drum
part with some thought in it, independent of the fact that I can play it and
I'm a TERRIBLE drummer. It's just a perfect part, and isn't what any hack
would do if they were involved in the putting together of that song. I
think Ulrich is a hell of a drummer. Portnoy's pretty damn phenomenal,
himself, though.
>From: Special Dark boy <belhai@drew.edu>
>
>Hey jammers!
>
>I recently bought "gretchen goes to Nebraska" by Kings X and I like it
>alot. I would appreciate any suggestions on which of their albums to get
>next. Thanks.
I'd actually suggest the new one ("Ear Candy") as a good place to go.
Hardcode King's X fans would probably point you at the first record, though
("Out Of The Silent Planet")...and if you're a fan of "alternative" music
(this list has a FEW of these people -- I'm not completely alone), you may
wanna consider "Dogman."
>From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
>
>The one thing I hate about Jacob's ladder, since Irene brought it up, is
>Sebastian Bach's harmonies. It may take some getting used to, but I don't
>think they belong there. Listen to the first verse especially. And not for
>nothing, the keyboard solo needs more power to it, maybe a better sound, or
>just pumped up in the mix, but ... the song is still great.
Hmmm....that's interesting. I mean, that's the one thing on the record that
I actually thought IMPROVED a Rush song (gasp!). I mean, I'm a MASSIVE
Rush-head and I thought they were really cool. Everything else was mostly
just "different" to me (which isn't necessarily bad), but those harmonies, I
thought, were really cool.
Adam D. Barnhart
adamb@cfmc.com
ydnt85a@prodigy.com
Five Gratuitous CD's:
=====================
1. Rush: Test For Echo
2. Metallica: Load
3. Pearl Jam: No Code
4. The Gales Brothers: Left Hand Brand
5. Live: The Beauty of Gray
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:37:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: NDTC: My haven't things turned....
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960912113403.11329D-100000@bdmserver>
At the early part of the baseball season I had a signature line that said
something like Go Orioles-the team to beat in 96. I was then berated by
Chicago White Sox, NY Yankee, and Texas Ranger fans. Wow, things have
turned around greatly...
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| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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| Hail to the Redskins 1-1 * Go Orioles-Playoff bound in 1996!!! |
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