YTSEJAM Digest 1830
Today's Topics:
1) Music
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
2) ** New Ytsejam Tshirts **
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
3) Re: Lemur Voice
by blane@nla.gov.au
4) Where does some of this stuff come from ?
by KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
5) Post Rush Dates and Ticket Sale info
by rtgood@students.wisc.edu (Ryan Good)
6) Re: Random stuff...
by Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1828
by The Silent Man <tritt@eden.rutgers.edu>
8) post
by Bartek Lubaszka <battery@magg.net>
9) Re: Mike's update
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
10) YCSRF
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
11) Uh oh...
by BLevy@aol.com
12) Re: DEVS EX MACHINA
by shields@onr.com (Jim Shields)
13) LIT video
by "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
14) Gotta try. :)
by Ben Laussade <laussade@sprynet.com>
15) <snicker!!>
by Cliff & Pam Wheaton <cwheaton@micron.net>
16) Re: Working Man recall
by Bretso@aol.com
17) Twice In One Month!!!!
by elliott@fxn.com (Elliott Kim)
18) Re: WORKING MAN RECALLED!!!!!!
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
19) Progressive bands
by walter@orlinter.com (Walter Semerenko)
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 17:09:11 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Music
Message-ID: <199609130009.RAA21777@darkstar.ucsc.edu.>
Just picked up Altura, Cairo, Lemur Voice and The Bobs (Too many Santas) --
all four are way cool. :)
Yeah, Cairo has lots of keys, good for them! The world needs more
keyboard-oriented bands.
~Chris
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:38:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ** New Ytsejam Tshirts **
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960912193000.1500A-100000@indy21.gclab.missouri.edu>
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Well, the time to order your Ytsejam T-shirts is now. The order was
placed over Labor Day weekend, printing will be begin shortly, and the
shirts will make their first appearance at YtseCon III on October 12th.
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Details
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The Ytsejam shirts are two sided prints. The front of the shirt features
a *full color* raytraced graphic from Chris Haley in Washington. The
graphic is a beautifully done scene with the Majesty logo floating behind
a group of marble columns on a tile floor with a wide view of space
visible behind.
The back of the shirt will be done in a solid blue color. The majority
of the design is a huge Majesty logo, framed by the Dream Theater title
at the top, the mailing list address on the sides and "Ytsejam" at the
bottom. Below that is "Internet Mailing List" between two more Majesty
logos.
At this point the order stands at 150 shirts, but I'm considering
increasing to 200, and possibly a later second run if demand is high
enough.
You can check out all of the details, as well as a preview of the shirts
at:
http://www.phlab.missouri.edu/~c675311/ytsejam/
** Please note: Due to some legal issues, the University will no longer
** allow me to keep this commercial advertisement on their server. To
** sidestep this issue, Chris Merlo was kind enough to put the page up on
** his account. Please go to the URL above and follow the link to the new
** site.
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Pricing
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The cost of the shirts is $16 each. The shirt is damn close to concert
quality, so $16 is a steal (last Dream Theater concert I was at charged
$23 for a shirt!). If you require a size larger than XL, please let me
know ASAP so I can get those orders in. There is an additional $1 charge
for each size increase (ie. XXL = $17). If you are picking the shirt up
from me directly or will be at YtseCon III, the $16 price stands. If you
won't be at the Con and can't get the shirt in person, you can order one
through the mail for $20 to cover shipping.
** I spoke with the people at the post office and I've decided to set the
** shipping prices outside the USA at $9, for a total of $25. I realize
** this is damn expensive for a tshirt, and I'm sorry. If individual prices
** are signifigantly less expensive, I will gladly return a check for the
** balance.
The rundown:
Pickup or Con: $16
Mail Order: $20
Outside the USA: $25
XXL +$1
XXXL +$2
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Ordering
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The shirts are open to pre-ordering now. You can reserve one by check or
money order to ensure that you will get one. I definitely recommend
this. By ordering early, you can make sure you get a shirt, as well as
ensure that the whole project goes of without a hitch. Checks and money
orders will be held until the weekend before the Con (Oct. 4th) at which
point they will be cashed to cover the rest of the payment when I pick up
the shirts. Those of you at the Con will receive your shirts then. Mail
orders will begin shipping the week after the Con, most likely on that
Wednesday (Oct. 16th).
To order, send a check or money order for the proper amount (see pricing
above) to:
Pat Griffin
573A Hudson Hall
1202 E. Rollins St.
Columbia, MO 65201
Make them payable to Pat Griffin, and remember this in US dollars.
Be sure to include:
Your name.
Email address.
Mailing address.
Phone number.
Quantity of shirts you want to order.
The size of each.
Whether or not you will be at YtseCon III.
I will keep you up to date on the status of the shirts through email.
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Miscellaneous
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Remember that all the info can be found online at:
http://www.phlab.missouri.edu/~c675311/ytsejam/
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:40:53 +0000
From: blane@nla.gov.au
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Lemur Voice
Message-ID: <199609130043.KAA47908@email.nla.gov.au>
Hiya People,
Just wondering if someone knows of a vender who
stocks Lemur Voice's Insights and accepts orders
from Australia.
Anyone willing to help please email my privately.
Thanx,
Brett
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 01:03:13 GMT
From: KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
To: The Love Boat <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Where does some of this stuff come from ?
Message-ID: <199609130103.BAA15473@pipe1.t2.usa.pipeline.com>
Mr. or Mrs. Levy (@aol.com - no wonder) wrote:
1. WTF?
>KMadden--- you are in Fort Collins, I went there for two years, stayed in
>'ol Ingersoll Hall (Ultima Thule), is that town still a great place to
live
>or what????
Where the hell did you pull that one from? Ft. Collins? Where is
that? I am sitting in my home in Cape St. Claire, Maryland as I type.
Where you pulled that from, I am clueless. If this seems rude, sorry,
but I am sick of being misquoted in newsgroups, etc. I have a feeling
you grabbed this from a message to which I replied.
2. Mercyful Fate tour
Word has it that the joint King Diamond/Mercyful Fate tour is not
going to happen. Apparently no one would book this tour because
the club owner feel there is not enough demand for this combo.
So, MF has only been able to book some east coast dates, one
of which is going to be in Springfield, VA. about 60 miles from
my home IN MARYLAND, and to which I plan to go.
3. Thoughts and Regards to our Puerto Rican "amigos"
Hope you guys are all right after the hurricane. I understand 35%
of the island is still without power. Hope everything is ok.
4. My cat is watching television.
He is watching hockey. What a nut. I guess that's what happens
when you name the poor guy after a hockey player. My cats are
named after Russian hockey players. Imagine the look on the
vet's face when she tries to pronounce Viacheslav and Vladimir.
Canada 1 USA 1 -- after one.
-- Kevin (kwmadden@usa.pipeline.com) GO PACKERS...GO WINGS!!! (No bullshit claims; Pat, you spoke too soon.)------------------------------
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:05:14 -0500 From: rtgood@students.wisc.edu (Ryan Good) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Post Rush Dates and Ticket Sale info Message-ID: <199609130105.UAA51544@audumla.students.wisc.edu>
Hey- Would someone be willing to post the Rush tour dates, and MAYBE even when they go on sale at each venue? I'd think that info would be on the net somewhere, but my browser fucked up recently. I want to go to at least 2 shows. Hey MADISON people?? Wanna go to the Milwaukee show together??? Help appreciated!!! ________________________________________________
"I'm so full of right I can't see what is good" -Rush, The Color of Right ________________________________________________
name - Ryan T. Good e-mail - rtgood@students.wisc.edu phone - 1-(608)-258-1587 pager - 1-888-845-1150 (call and type in your number) what - "Madison Student Radio; It's coming, are you?" who - Music Staff (Music Stapher) which kind - Progressive Rock/Heavy Metal why - why not?
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 21:25:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Random stuff... Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960912212752.2fff3310@access.mountain.net>
At 10:30 AM 9/12/96 -0700, God of Thunder wrote: >- terribly disappointed with new Eric Johnson. Sounds like he's >gotten old and listens to way to much of Marty Friedman's Megadeth- >era solo albums. And wtf is up with that poetic shit on the back of >the liner notes?
I'm not really familiar with Megadeath, so could you please explain this link (no matter how tenuous) between Marty and the new EJ disc? Don't know how you've determined that EJ's gotten old, either. So the disc is a little more laid back than _Ah Via_ or _Tones_. Oh yeah, there was poetic shit strung all through the liner notes on the first two albums, too. Pretty silly I agree, but hey.
Nervous taking on a God . . .
Jonathan Byrne rael@access.mountain.net http://access.mountain.net/~rael/jdbhome2.htm West Virginia University College of Law ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Some kind of drama live on satelite Hidden camera coverage from the crimescene to the courtroom Nail-biting hoodboys in borrowed ties and jackets Clutching at the straws of respectability." -"Test for Echo", Rush
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 96 21:26:19 EDT From: The Silent Man <tritt@eden.rutgers.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1828 Message-ID: <CMM-RU.1.5.842577979.tritt@er5.rutgers.edu>
In reference to the G3 Tour consisting of Satriani, Vai, and Johnson, the most updated date list is on the tour's site at http://www.g3tour.com there isn't too much on the site... I mean each musician has their own page! D. Tritt ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- tritt@eden.rutgers.edu "Like a scream but sort of silent" screamer@dreamt.org - John Petrucci -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 21:43:18 -0400 From: Bartek Lubaszka <battery@magg.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: post Message-ID: <32376AB6.271C@magg.net>
Now tell me if there is something wrong with getting 10 digests in the course of 24 hours....I don't think I will read them all sorry. Reply to me only by e-mail to gurentee me reading it. -- ----------------- battery@magg.net
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 96 22:05:09 EDT From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Mike's update Message-ID: <9609130205.AA29199@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Jim, you raise great points about Mike's projects, but let's consider this. DT doesn't get the kind of exposure that Live or Van Halen get. Unfortunately, DT is not as big as these two superBands. So, why would somebody want to surpress Mike's production of DT bootleg CDs or imports or limitted edition CDs, whatever they are called. Now, you may say that Rush is just as big as VH or Live, maybe bigger, but maybe they don't know or care about Mike Bahr's projects, although I would think they are ignorant to his doings. Hey, Mike, I support you, even though I have no money for anything right now. Keep up the good work and watch yourself.
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:18:59 -0400 From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YCSRF Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960913021859.00676db8@ici.net>
> I think we should establish the YCSRF (Ytsejam >Cranial-Sphincter Resolution Foundation) to aid these people in >obtaining corrective surgical procedures. :)
Ooooo...can I be the president? I'm BIG on C-S corrective surgery. :)
________Pat Sullivan__________________________________ E-mail: psull@ici.net WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html IRC: DDictator
President: YCSRF - Ytsejam Cranial Sphincter Resolution Foundation ..not only the president, I'm also a client......
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:53:54 -0400 From: BLevy@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Uh oh... Message-ID: <960912225350_100766006@emout09.mail.aol.com>
Now here I go responding to one of MY OWN posts!!! what IS this world coming too....
I included the following in my last post: KMadden--- you are in Fort Collins, I went there for two years, stayed in 'ol Ingersoll Hall (Ultima Thule), is that town still a great place to live or what????
Well, I don't know WHAT I was thinking but I meant to write KDonnelly. (must of been some wierd new AOL virus that randomly changes names around on e-mails you send...)
Sorry about the goof (as if it REALLY mattered to anyone but myself and the others named!!).
L8R, Brian
In CD Player-Stabbing Westward-Wither, Blister, Burn & Peel
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:37:32 -0600 From: shields@onr.com (Jim Shields) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DEVS EX MACHINA Message-ID: <v01530500ae5e91c4f5be@[206.104.9.14]>
Where was the latin stuff printed? I'm a third year latin student, and i love the language. I would like to take a look at it just for my own amusement. If one of you has it on file, could you send it to me, or tell me where i can find it!?
Jim Shields Guitar/backup vocals ROOM 213
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:39:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: LIT video Message-ID: <199609130339.XAA13234@pilot03.cl.msu.edu>
Does anyone else get a kick out of what James does during the instrumental sections? Anyway, I managed to get a true live sound out of my system with LIT. Digital Signal Processing is amazing! I cranked the bass and lo and behold, I could hear Myung's bass playing! I used to wonder what he was playing most of the time. I'm impressed with his abilities. He's much better than I originally thought. Is the bass he plays in the video his Tung? And does anyone know anything about this brand of bass? I like what I hear of the sound, but I've never heard of the brand.
Andrew
Now playing-- I'd list what's in my CD player right now, but it's a Sony 100 disc changer. You really don't want to know that bad, do you?
-- garinger@pilot.msu.edu Zeta Beta Tau-Beta Epsilon Chapter
"I feel like a place where no one goes anymore... I've got nothing left inside me... I feel it slipping away." --- Stabbing Westward
"In games, there are rules, but in life, the rules keep changing. You could put your bishop out there to mate the guy's king, and he could lean down and whisper in your bishop's ear, and suddenly it's playing for him and moving like a rook. And you're fucked..." --- Red Mars, Kim Stanley Robinson
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:40:16 -0700 From: Ben Laussade <laussade@sprynet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Gotta try. :) Message-ID: <199609130340.UAA13430@m5.sprynet.com>
So, are my calculations correct, and I'm really going to be the only person going to the Las Vegas G3 show October 14th? If not, gimme a mail. :) TTFN!
Ben Laussade
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:03:09 -0600 From: Cliff & Pam Wheaton <cwheaton@micron.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: <snicker!!> Message-ID: <3238DCFD.D93@micron.net>
Hi! I honestly hope I didn't take this one wrong, but I fell out of my chair laughing at this one!!: > I think we should establish the YCSRF (Ytsejam > Cranial-Sphincter Resolution Foundation) to aid these people in > obtaining corrective surgical procedures. :) I'm still laughing!!! Now that I'm out of my "New Rush" induced stupor, and can listen to other music along with it again, I still maintain the DT is right along with Rush in talent. Keep rockin' Pam -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace </__"Rockin Cabbie"__\o “THE INTERNET” 0 0 E-mail: cwheaton@micron.net URL:http://netnow.micron.net/~cwheaton ************************************************************************************
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:08:14 -0400 From: Bretso@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Working Man recall Message-ID: <960913000814_477662692@emout14.mail.aol.com>
Rick wrote: <<<>I got an email from my boss (I work at a record store) who said that Working >Man has been recalled.
Shit! They finally forced them to do it. Does anybody have global confirmation on this from Magna Carta?>>>
I have it on good authority from a trusted friend in the music biz that there will be NO recall of "Working Man." There have been a lot of rumors on the net about this but there has been no official or unofficial recall and apparently there will NOT be.
BSO
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:09:58 +0100 From: elliott@fxn.com (Elliott Kim) To: The Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Twice In One Month!!!! Message-ID: <19960912230957572.AAA202@ras9.fxn.com>
Resurrection Drums in Hallandale Florida sponsors an annual "Drum Fest."
Guess who's gonna be there. :)
I'll let y'alls know more when I know more.
-- Elliott Kim -------------------------------------------------------- --e l l i o t t @ f x n . c o m ----- E - M a n @ d r e a m t . o r g-- --h t t p : / / w w w . f x n . c o m / u s e r s / e / e l l i o t t--
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:18:27 -0400 (EDT) From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: WORKING MAN RECALLED!!!!!! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960913001644.4860B-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
Umm...just in case anyone needs a copy still...I work at a music store also, and our 6 that are in the browsers have NOT been recalled...they are $16.99 each +tax ($18.18) plus whatever it's gonna cost to ship to your joint...just yell if ya need one...or stop by your local Musicland or Sam Goody store and tell them to GET IT!!!
_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* ^ According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats: ^ ^ If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) ^ ^ (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major ^ ^ would have 4 sharps. ^ ^ Statistics show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances ^ ^ are they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :) ^ ^ ^ ^ "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke) ^ ^ ^ ^ Eric Moegling: emoeglin@wezl.org ^ ^ emoeglin@mail.coin.missouri.edu ^ ^ ^ ^ HOMEPAGE - http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN ^ ^_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_^
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 00:48:52 -0400 From: walter@orlinter.com (Walter Semerenko) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Progressive bands Message-ID: <20960913044610036.AAA223@prefferc>
> Anekdoten - A Swedish band expanding on the music of 1970s King Crimson, > the first disk Vemod, is in the vein of Red, the second disk > is more eclectic and angry, both are very impressive.
I have the first disk _Vemod_ and it is dark and heavy and uses the mellotron. It has a lot of atonal riffs which can get hard to get used to, but overall I like a couple of songs on it. Vocals sung in english.
> > Anglagard - Another Swedish band, lots of long instrumental passages and > Mellotron use, some symphonic parts augmented by heavy guitar > and Swedish lyrics.
Awesome band. I have _Epilog_ and it is a little hard to get into because there are a lot of quite passages it it, but when it starts to get heavy it rocks. It has many instruments: flute, mellotron, cello, bass, guitar, drums. The music is very dark and atmospheric and on the heavy parts it get very complex which is great. Excellent production...I highly reccomend it. Most prog fans will tell you to get their first _Hybris_. I heard that it is easier to get into.
> > ArsNova - A Japanese Trio of ladies drums, bass, keyboards, doing the ELP > style of music, suppose to be great live. They just finished a > east coast US tour with MAstermind and Deux Ex Machina.
Saw them at ProgDay '96 (great show) but I didn't get to see them up front. Their music is good, and I can't describe them because I wasn't really paying attention at the show. But several people told me that the newest release is great.
> Mastermind - a heavy, guitar-synth monster of a band, featuring the > overamplified Marshall stacks of Bill Berends and his MIDI > equipment, accompanied by driving bass and heavy Carl Palmer > style drumming. An intense live experience here, I > recommend the second album, Brainstorm for chops, the third > album Tragic Symphony for more mature songwriting.
Highly reccomended. I have the first and the third. _Tragic Symphony_ is a great album. Above description is suffice.
> > Altura - Another prog-metal Magna Carta band, I heard it in a music > store, fairly impressive, sounded a lot like older Rush.
Good production..but the songs don't have great replay value to them. But I haven't listened to it in a while. The songwriting is choppy...has lot of changes..but the musicianship is great up to par with DT but they don't develop their melodies very well. Singer sings in mid range. I recommend it for DT/Rush fans.
> Finneus Gauge - New band featuring Chris Busby from echolyn on keyboards, > I heard a few demos at Progscape and they are going to kick some > serious ass. Their first live performance is the night of > Ytsecon III, and will probably keep me from going to the con, I > want to see them that bad.
Aww...I would love to see them.
Some other bands:
Deus Ex Machina _Diacronie Metronomiche_
This band is Italian and the lead singer sing in Latin. Singer is one of the best I ever heard. His range is incredible and does a lot of cool effects with it. They played in ProgDay '96 and the sound was great and one of the best concert experiences I had. Their music is strange, complex elaborate noise. Some of the songs start jazzy and then get heavier with lots of abrupt changes. They are definiately avant-garde. I highly recommend that you get the above album. It is a live album and the sonics are studio quality. They have a violinist in the band and he hits some really sweet notes. Top notch musicians.
East _Hu"se'g_
Hugarian neo-progressive band. The vocalist sings very softly but his diction is great. The melodies are fairly simple but the songs segue so perfectly. The song have a lot of texture and nice melodies. I bought off Chris Lamka (Of Sound Mind) and it had a "must-have" label on it and it is one of the best purchaces I bought this year. It doesn't sound like any band I know.
Walter.
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